Leica M6 vs. Contax G2 ft. Portra 800

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William Sheepskin

William Sheepskin

Күн бұрын

I've wondered for some time now how different my Contax G2 really is in terms of results from a Leica M6. Today we find out thanks to my mate David who lent me his M6 for this experiment.
I shot Portra 800 on both cameras since it seemed like the Leica equivalent film stock haha.
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@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel
@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Жыл бұрын
the thing that has always kept me from buying a G2 is that if it ever breaks, it's dead. You can send an M6 to pretty much any camera repair store and have it fixed without a problem. Especially since Leica has relaunched the M6, repair parts will be available forever. By the way, there is also a chinese manufacturer that sells contax to m-mount conversion kits. if your G2 should ever break. 😅
@JLeoH
@JLeoH Жыл бұрын
The new M6 is an MP, the spare parts do not match. If the lightmeter of the M6 breaks, it cannot not be fixed. The rest always can be, it's fully mechanical.
@JLeoH
@JLeoH Жыл бұрын
But you can always buy a new M6/MP. ;-)
@paddington2063
@paddington2063 Жыл бұрын
Same. I nearly cried selling mine, with 4 lenses, but it was a ticking time bomb as someone who likes to shoot in harsh weather
@GlaciaDay
@GlaciaDay Жыл бұрын
G2 is not that hard to fix, you just need to find the right guy. If you are worried about electronic parts breaking, M6 TTL suffers from the same issue.
@Suckmine10
@Suckmine10 Жыл бұрын
Yea I don’t get people who make this argument, I shoot with a G1, the amount quoted for a Leica CLA is the price of a G1 body. For the price of a M6 with lens I could buy 3 G1s with lenses. Basically, if they’re dead, just get another body, still cheaper than owning and servicing a Leica. In the end it just comes down to user preference, I’d urge anyone who wants to get into the Contax system to just do it.
@jebeq2007
@jebeq2007 Жыл бұрын
I owne a G2 and an M7 and 90% of the time I prefer to take the G2 out. I know some people say the focus is not perfect but I have yet to miss focus on my G2 in the last 1.5 yrs I have owned it. I guess what really bugs me on the Leica M cameras is the 1/1000 of sec. I can never really shoot shallow in the day with the Leica, my G2 will do 1/6000 and that comes in so handy. I will admit the the view finder on the G2 can be a deal breaker for some but the photos I get out of the G2 are simply amazing with the Zeiss glass and well makes up for the viewfinder.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Awesome to have your perspective here as someone who owns and uses both! I also have not had issues with the G2 autofocus that I can think of in a very long time. Also excellent to hear some proper real world experience with the difference in shutter speeds haha! The Zeiss glass definitely makes up for the viewfinder, and to be honest I've never suffered beyond being minorly disgruntled with how tiny it is. Was just a bit of a religious experience seeing through the M6 one for the first time, especially in comparison haha! Thanks for sharing your insights!
@paddington2063
@paddington2063 Жыл бұрын
Man, I shot a lot of Portra 800 through a G2 and this was nostalgic to see. The photos looked exactly how I’d imagine - funny how the Leica looks just so different to me.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
It had been like 4 years since I'd put portra 800 through it too ahah, I also really enjoyed it! Was fun to shoot a color film stock besides the 400 for once, I haven't shot any color 35mm in years actually. Glad that they had a nostalgic look for your experience though haha! My view on the look of them was mainly just based on 100% zooms of the scans while editing this video tbh, I probably could've gone deeper into some of the color and rendering and such, but also excellent to know that I wasn't just imagining the G2 having the slightest optical edge ahah
@maxfairclough3600
@maxfairclough3600 Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin I would have been interested to see a Leica lens that isn't a 40mm. Tbh, I didn't even know Leica did a 40mm lens until I googled it. And judging by the price point, probably leads credence to it not be as optically sound as the 35 or 50 summicrons.
@paddington2063
@paddington2063 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@willysheepskinoh man you were definitely on point and I’m actually surprised the little details were even pointed out. The Contax is definitely a bit warm, which I’m not assuming is the glass itself. I always had my suspicions! The microcontrast as well, but I think I might prefer how the Leica renders the shadows a bit deeper. Glad you enjoyed this though, I’d actually love to see more comparisons. Always on the fence for a Leica…
@abelalonzo8795
@abelalonzo8795 Жыл бұрын
If I didn’t have a M6 and the M6 didn’t exist in this reality I would definitely get a G2. Unfortunately the M6 exist and I have one. 😂Love the video! Glad to see you’re doing well!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ahah yeah that’s a highly understandable stance 😌 if I had an M6 I’d probably just get it permanently fused to myself and never look back, although I’d do that with the g2 too if I wasn’t scared of being fused to a brick 🥲
@nikolaushubner3412
@nikolaushubner3412 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Love the G2 shot of the stairs disappearing into the clouds of foam.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly! That's probably my favorite from the video as well, the textures came out so nice, and the G2 has just a bit of an edge in terms of it's rendering haha!
@awakemf3312
@awakemf3312 Жыл бұрын
Davids Pentax photo of the foam splashing up the pier turned out really great! I would chose the Leica, I take my time shooting and and don't use any autofocus anyway (even on my digital camera).
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Such a good moment he managed to capture hey! Looks even more hardcore since thankfully the worst of that wave was actually closer to camera than it was to me, but it still got me pretty good haha. The leica definitely seems like the more sensible choice given the age of the Contax at this point, although I’d have to sell my car for the leica so that isn’t likely to happen anytime soon lol! I also prefer manual focus though, gives you much more precise control over the image and I’m often focusing on spots where autofocus doesn’t understand what I want too
@awakemf3312
@awakemf3312 Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin yes the leica is kinda out of reach and for a young photographer a bit of an Overkill. But probably keeps the value better then most of the Cars out there! Agree, takes more time to fiddle around with the autofocus then just doing it manuel.
@Toumakawa
@Toumakawa Жыл бұрын
south africa being absolutely beautiful again with that lighting ✨ well done will 👍
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Yeah the light was showing off on that day for sure! The ocean too, just not in the most pleasant way haha, so glad you enjoyed it!
@gottanikoncamera
@gottanikoncamera Жыл бұрын
Oh, cool-prints! You may be the first KZbin-sourced print I buy!! As a Leica shooter who picked up a G1 + 28/45/90 last year, I enjoy the G1 tremendously. My 45 mm Planar also seems sharper than my 35 and 50 mm Summicrons but as you say, it may just be micro contrast. And about the M6, it’s all mechanical except for the meter so even if the electronics die, you’ll still have a working camera. Thanks for a good comparison!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
It would be a great honor to be your first KZbin sourced print haha! Glad to hear that you’re enjoying the G1 as well! I’m going to have to try out some of these other G series lenses now based on what people are saying around here haha, I’ve been spoilt having mainly used the 45mm and occasionally the 16mm and they’re both ridiculous lenses so maybe I should try some of the others that are supposedly less magical just to curb my enthusiasm haha 😂
@eyeofalchemy
@eyeofalchemy Жыл бұрын
Dope shots. Dope jacket. Dope David😂 Was wholesome watching you enjoy the Leica bru!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Aweee baie dankie my guy! Maybe someday I’ll have a leica of my own, someday faaaar faaaaaaar away ahaha
@fatsamurai869
@fatsamurai869 Жыл бұрын
This is such a fun watch, especially because I had an M6 and bought a G2 because of William's review. I love my M6 that G2 has really become my go to for the past year
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ah that’s so awesome! G2 team for the win 😤 great that you’ve had the chance to compare both and are a fan of the G2 still haha, and so glad the G2 video got you keen on picking one up!
@fatsamurai869
@fatsamurai869 Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin It's a great video! The stars really aligned too, I was about to cop a Mamiya 7 until i watched your vid on that. I watched your G2 video next and told myself, "If i can find the black edition, with the 45mm lens for a good price I'll buy them right now" lo and behold I did
@samgerers
@samgerers Жыл бұрын
So many amazing photographs in this video!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ah thank you so much! I think I’ve been spoilt by 120 so the 35mm stuff never feels like it’s quite there to me, but the scenes were something to behold for sure and I’m glad I got to photograph them in some capacity haha!
@samgerers
@samgerers Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin the image quality difference is big, which can be a downer when not used to it. However it's still great, and most importantly all the images you showed were amazing!
@Geoooooooo91
@Geoooooooo91 5 ай бұрын
Maaan I absolutely love your content, getting me back into photography after a hiatus! Glad you're doing well too!
@olgamarsay8483
@olgamarsay8483 Жыл бұрын
Loved this one! An interesting and informative comparison. Some lovely pics from both. Well worth the foam bath! 😂❤❤
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ahh so glad you enjoyed it! And also glad that someone reckons it was worth the foam bath haha 🤣
@georgedobre88
@georgedobre88 Жыл бұрын
I guess this shows that in film photography the most important things are the lenses and the film :) ... I am getting similar results with my M6+40mmSummicron compared to the canonet ql17 giii (wich is about 15-20 times cheaper)
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! They're just light tight boxes with some glass at the front at the end of the day, I've made some of my best images with cameras that have absolutely no sway on the hype front but that just happened to be in-hand at the right moment. I'm very keen to give that Canonet a go now haha!
@rbbxo
@rbbxo Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin defiantly try out a canonet ql17 giii, by far my favorite camera ive ever owned tbh and ive owned many m bodies over the years haha
@theonlinething1039
@theonlinething1039 Жыл бұрын
Awesome content, and very well produced, I like that a lot, compared to other photo youtubers it's quite a bit different! I hope you'll keep it that way. Are you australian?
@justbusy4583
@justbusy4583 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I'm so overwhelmed by the beauty of south african nature. Need to visit someday. Very cool video idea and pretty photographs as usual :) Would you consider to show the post process (developing but mostly scanning and editing) for these comparison videos?
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it! That sounds like a fun idea! It's actually the most labor intensive part of the whole process so would be fun to be able to share it haha, I'll have a look into it and see if I like how things turn out!
@Dylanwade_
@Dylanwade_ Жыл бұрын
Super fun comparison Will! I’d just like to say for anyone reading who may not have the budget, you can pick up a green label G1 for much more affordable than a g2 and still use the same lenses. That said, yea the viewfinder is smaller, and the autofocus is supposedly not as quick, however I rarely have issues with mine. Thanks for the vid! Stay well.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Excellent advice amigo! Glad you enjoyed the comparison as well haha, tbh maybe I should just buy a g1 body as a backup and have that be the way I justify keeping the g2 since I really don’t want to sell it still sigh. Excellent as always to catch you in the comments by the way!
@guccimain89
@guccimain89 Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskinthat’s kind of what I did. I bought my first G1 10 years ago. I bought 2 more as backups plus 1 non working one with a bad shutter in case I ever needed LCDs or electronic components. I did this all as a precaution. I could have just gotten the G2 and been done with it and just “wait for the inevitable”. However…I’m still on my first G1. I always expected it to go first but it’s the one that lives in my camera bag and it just. keeps. going. Which I’m glad for because of all the systems I’ve tried (way too many my wife barely puts up with me), the G system produces the best results for me. Might have commented this experience before but just in case I haven’t.
@matthewmoore7447
@matthewmoore7447 Жыл бұрын
Worth pointing out that a silver label G1 can be updated to use the same lenses as the green label G1, so even a silver label G1 offers the same benefits (and can be even more affordable).
@asherhodara389
@asherhodara389 Жыл бұрын
Great video man. Got mighty nervous with all that gear next to the seafoam. #sheepsquad
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ahah I edited it out but there was a bit where I handed David his leica before going deep into the danger zone since it didn’t seem worth risking that marvellous thing. The g2 got the full risk treatment though lol!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
#SHEEPSQUAAAAD
@lonker3820
@lonker3820 Жыл бұрын
another banger, as always hits even better while eating beans straight from the tin and praying for the wage to finally hit the account xD
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ahaha I feel you in the worst kind of way amigo, waiting on so many invoices to be fulfilled at the moment, felt very ironic editing this 🤣 glad you enjoyed it though!
@lonker3820
@lonker3820 Жыл бұрын
...always helps to find joy in the face of absurdity I guess ^^ good luck to you!
@cloudedfilms
@cloudedfilms Жыл бұрын
will sundays are the best 🙏
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you think so ✨☺️
@robbiemurrie7562
@robbiemurrie7562 Жыл бұрын
Great video regardless of the fact I’ll never own either BUT I am curious if you’ll ever borrow that Pentax 67 and compare to mamiya. My RB isn’t going anywhere but I’ve just ordered a P67 from Japan as I’m gonna use that for my doc work and rb for studio.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
I most certainly am going to do just that, have access to some very interesting Pentax 67 lenses as well so will be fun to tinker with comparing some weird optics too I reckon! Having it as an out and about camera seems like a great option too, I just always worry I'll miss out on something without the option for the super close focus that the RB gives me
@robbiemurrie7562
@robbiemurrie7562 Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin extension tubes can allow that closer focus though. I’m working on a documentary project at the moment so I’m usually getting full length or head and shoulders. Recently found out I have hip dysplasia which has caused osteoarthritis in my hips so wanted to ditch and have a more handheld system. Look forward to seeing what lenses you play around with.
@thefilmdaddy
@thefilmdaddy Жыл бұрын
I will be one with my one-day Leica. Can't believe you shot the holiest of holies in this one man! I don't know why but that foam just hit different on the M6, prolly cuz I've romanticized the fuk outta that machine. 😂 David got some bangers in this one as well. The IMACON really scanned the shit outta that 35mm, waaaay better than my epson ever could man sheeshballs. Loved this comparison so much, well done.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ahaha I too have a one-day Leica in mind, one-day faaaaar from now when that could even vaguely be a potential purchase lmao! Glad you enjoyed it man!
@hexeract1
@hexeract1 Жыл бұрын
This is indeed a captivating video. Nonetheless, I believe there's a point worth noting. If we're pitting the Zeiss lenses of the Contax against the Leica lenses for the Leica M6, a single comparison doesn't truly depict the complete scenario. I possess both the G2 and the M6, and I adore them both, often carrying both while out and about. That being said, within the G2, the 45mm lens indisputably takes the lead in sharpness. Its sharpness is so renowned that even Leica users have adapted this lens into an M-lens using a conversion kit. Of all the lenses I have, I would contend that the two sharpest are the 16mm and the 45mm. The 28, 35, 90, and the 30-70 are all commendable, but their sharpness doesn't quite compare to their Leica counterparts. The 45 is the sole lens that can match, or even surpass, the sharpness of Leica lenses. When you use the G2 with its 35mm lens and the M6 with the latest Summilux or Summicron, it's quite evident that Leica's 35mm lenses are sharper. This isn't to imply that the M6 is automatically superior, as I have an immense affection for both cameras. However, it's noteworthy that you compared the finest lens on the G2 against a less superior lens on the M6. Nevertheless, excellent video and brilliant effort!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the advice! I actually didn’t know that there were such variations in the leica glass, I guess I was right when I mentioned that perhaps the 50mm would’ve been a better comparison! I reckon thanks to your feedback I’m going to have to find a way to get my hands on those 35mm’s and see what’s what! Or perhaps even a bunch of other lenses, it really is fun to compare them and would be an interesting exercise to try find out how they compare across the board. Thanks again for the advice, and for checking out the video of course! Really appreciate it 😊
@hexeract1
@hexeract1 Жыл бұрын
​@@willysheepskin I bought my G2 because I watched your video about it. I actually own multiple G2s both the Black and the Titanium versions, and for the Black one I own all the lenses too. I love the G2 system. I also love its amazing compact small TLA200 flash, I think it's the best flash for street photography due to its form factor. Keep up the great work.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
@@hexeract1 ah thanks so much man! I’m glad the video had an impact ahaha, to be honest there’s no way I’d ever sell my Tla’s because they’re also magical, but I literally found out today how expensive they’ve gotten too 🥲 I bought both of my tla 200’s for like £20 and now they’re a lot more than that sigh. A very large part of me still greatly wants to have a full black Contax set since that’s been like the ultimate goal for so long. Just need to get a better paying job than this whole South African creative industry business 🤣
@justinconnaher8868
@justinconnaher8868 Жыл бұрын
What a great comparison. I’ve never used a G2, but being a Leica owner (two of them), I definitely really enjoy using them. Are they the best? 🤔 that’s subjective. Could I just use say my Pentax Spotmatic? Sure, and do and also have just as much fun with it. Leica is just different, that’s all. Especially my M3-I take it everywhere/everyday. That, I think is the best part of any camera. If you feel compelled to pick it up when you leave the house, whatever camera it is, then that’s a keeper! Thanks for sharing Will. Cheers 🍻
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it Justin! That’s an excellent synopsis on your view as well! I’m very jealous of your M3 haha, that and the M4 are the two I’d have my eyes on if I ever decided to go that route hehehe. But again as you say the best one is the one you’re always reaching for, that’s actually still my rb for me but it does feel a bit clunky and heavy on some days! Cheers for stopping by as always ya legend!
@justinconnaher8868
@justinconnaher8868 Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin Right on! I think any M is a good choice. I’ve wanted one for almost thirty years, but they’re soooo expensive. Last year I picked up a “user grade” copy that had been recently overhauled. It’s beat up cosmetically, but is mechanically excellent. After much thought (and using a screw mount 50mm with an adapter as my other Leica is a iiif and I already had that lens) I got the Voigtlander 40mm 1.4 used. The money I spent on the combo was limited, and while the 40mm gives me approximately 20% more than the 50mm frame line-it doesn’t bother me. It’s small, well built, affordable, had good image quality, was in my budget, and makes me want to pick it up. My favorite focal length is probably 28mm, so one might ask, why M3??? Ahah! 40/50mm ish… I love this, because it’s outside my comfort zone. If I could only have one focal length it would be around 40/50. 🤷🏽‍♂️. Keep ‘em coming Will. At your convenience, of course.
@samprstn
@samprstn Жыл бұрын
Great video Will! I’ve owned the G1 and own the m6, the g1 was my turn your brain off camera, but in the end the abysmal viewfinder and slow AF made me sell it, i guess those are improved in the G2 but m6 still wins for me!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Phew I’m jealous man, it’s really terrible Cus part of me wanted to not be into the m6 since it is such a hyped camera but it really is marvelous. If I were ever to get into Leicas I think I’d try hunt down an m4-p or something since I don’t really need a built in meter and that’s closer to being vaguely feasible budget wise for me lol. I definitely reckon if you’ve got an m6 stick with it, especially since you’ll be able to run it for the rest of your days whereas that’s not particularly likely with a the G2 😞
@samprstn
@samprstn Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskinAbsolutely looking for my M6 to last me, it’s currently getting a complete overhaul at leica for exactly that reason. The non-metered M’s are absolutely just as beautiful as the m6, loads of people here in berlin out and about with them! As hyped as they are, they’re also just a fantastic tool.
@peteb5461
@peteb5461 Жыл бұрын
This doesn't help my addiction to buying 35mm bodies, either of those would be amazing to own ;) Awesome review sir and it`s good to see your safe & well... Keep at it! ;) ;)
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ahaha my recommendation would be to start with the m6 since it’d hurt more and last forever, then if the itch is still there get the g2 since it’d be a bunch of fun to shoot and the lenses are glooriouss
@Eric12123
@Eric12123 Жыл бұрын
Great video William! The images taken from both are spectacular. I would actually love to see more videos like this one, maybe Pentax 67 vs Mamiya 7?
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Thaaat is an excellent idea indeed! Wish granted! I’ll start making a plan to make it happen haha, David’s been on my case about it for ages but I wasn’t sure it was an interesting enough comparison but this is the catalyst I needed I reckon, shall see you at some point in the future with both in hand! 🫡 (Also so glad you enjoyed the video haha, thanks for watching it!)
@NicolasGENTYPRISCAL
@NicolasGENTYPRISCAL Жыл бұрын
You've just have perfectly loaded an M6 as intended by the manafucturer ! Thanks for that, almost all the guy on the internet are doing it wrong...
@Dr_Pessimisto
@Dr_Pessimisto Жыл бұрын
Hi! thanks for the video! Question: what is the strap on the m6? looks very neat!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! David had it custom made somewhere in Woodstock, Cape Town I think, will get back to you when he lets me know!
@Dr_Pessimisto
@Dr_Pessimisto Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin thank You man! Best regards!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Pessimisto Stockton goods in Woodstock is where he had it made! Best regards to you too!🥳
@smichaelpridgen
@smichaelpridgen Жыл бұрын
I think you should do a vs. between the Leica M6 and the Konica RF, please hahhah
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
I’ll put it on the list! 🫡 glad you enjoyed this one ahah!
@jasongold6751
@jasongold6751 Жыл бұрын
Baaie lekker te sien Seapoint and Atlantic! Great video.
@bensan9
@bensan9 3 ай бұрын
I have had quite a journey with the G2 and Leicas. I first got a Minolta CLE and then later a G2 and then finally bought an M4. As soon as I started using the true Leica body, I was converted. I found that I used the G2 and CLE for photoshoots and such, they are much easier to just point and shoot; but the joy of shooting the Leica was on another level. I mostly used the Leica for pleasure shooting. As time goes on these cameras break. My Leica ended up having a problem with the winder and didn't work, so I put it away and stored it and used the CLE. Then something on the CLE broke and I used the G2, but I then fixed my Leica. Now I have sold my CLE broken body and the G2 and bought another back up M2 body and a new Leica lens. I think my decision was the right one for me now. The G2 is easy, nice, and good for certain things; but the Leica bodies (even the meterless ones) are so much more of a joy to use. I like what you said about learning to use it and such.
@wearetrackclub
@wearetrackclub Жыл бұрын
Loving the vibes of this video 👌 Great comparison!
@sophietucker1255
@sophietucker1255 Жыл бұрын
Nice. If someone gave me a Leica I’d take it but for my money I’ll stay with my Canon 7 and Canon P with the nice Canon LTM lenses I got with them. I have a 28, 35, 50, 85, 100 and 135. I got all that for less than $2000USD. The two bodies had been CLA’d too. The lenses I use the most is the 35mm f2.8 and the 50mm f1.4. Still I’d take a Leica if someone gifted me one. You are south of the Equator aren’t you so that would account for the hat, gloves and coat. It was 36C today in Boise. Nice video too
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
I am massively jealous of the weather you've got that side of the world at the moment haha! I am very far south of the equator and it is freeeeezing and miserable down here. I've never tried much in the way of Canon cameras, I'm actually very interested in checking some of them out! Also a very good point that you can have a whole kit for a very capable camera system at the price of even a G2 stock setup. Thanks for sharing as always Bob!
@sophietucker1255
@sophietucker1255 Жыл бұрын
According to the camera historians the Canon rangefinders of the 1950’s & 60’s were really on par with the older Leica I, II & III’s and a good match for the M2 & M3 which had just come out. The only Canon’s other than my rangefinders that I have are my EOS digital bodies and a EOS 1N RS film body. Those are nice because they all use the EF mount so all the EF lenses will work on the EOS bodies whether film or digital. Of course the new R series have a different mount so the EF lenses only work on them with an adapter. The F1 and FTB were also nice but I’ve never used them. If you want a F1 get the last iteration which I think is called the New F1. The F glass was all very good and compares nicely if not better than the Nikon lenses of the same period.
@thedarkslide
@thedarkslide Жыл бұрын
I own various Leica M bodies (M3, MP, M10), a G1 with the 21mm and external viewfinder, and a black G2 with the full set of 28, 45 and 90 in black. The main thing the G2 has on the M bodies is the faster shutter speed. The viewfinder on the G2 is also better with 28mm for people with glasses. On the MP, with glasses, I cannot see the entirety of the 28mm frame - no problem on the G2. Also, the Zeiss Biogon 28mm is a better lens (sharper, better corrected) than the Leica 28mm f2.8 (which I also own). The Leica MP rules supreme when using with any 35mm lens, at that focal length the MP shines, the same is true for 50mm and the M3.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Oh wow you've truly got a proper view on the experience across the board haha! Very interesting to hear that the G2 viewfinder actually wins out in certain contexts, I would never have thought! I'd be very curious to compare the 16mm hologon to the leica 18mm to be honest, that 16mm is the most magical lens I've ever used so would be interesting to see how the leica equivalent holds up. So awesome to have this insight from someone that's properly used all these cameras as well, thanks so much for sharing!
@henrynutithawat5702
@henrynutithawat5702 9 ай бұрын
Sorry, not sure if this was mentioned in the video. But where was this shot? Really love the scenery, and would like to travel there one day.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin 9 ай бұрын
Cape Town, South Africa!
@hellothisiskyle
@hellothisiskyle Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review! I’ve never owned any Leica gear either and despite having a vast knowledge of various camera systems this is one that I could never justify spending the money on as much as I have enjoyed the process of shooting with one the few times I’ve gotten my hands on them. It feels pretty vindicating to know the g2 can hold it’s own and I was able to grab one before the hype had fully taken off on them. Gonna squeeze my g2 a little tighter tonight hahaha.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
The G2 is well worth the squeeze my friend! It most definitely holds it's own, and surpasses in more than one way, just a buuummer about those old electronics sigh. I still don't know if I'm going to be able to part with mine :')
@hellothisiskyle
@hellothisiskyle Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin if it makes your decision any easier, there is a really talented repair tech in Poland that still repairs them at a fair price. I don’t think many people know about him, but he does great work. He turned my G2 around in one week.
@Fjalll
@Fjalll Жыл бұрын
The main appeal of the Leica I'd argue is the plethora of lens options for the M mount. You can walk into a Leica store today and buy the latest 50mm and it would work beautifully on that M6 or get a brass chrome classic from the 50s
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
That is most certainly an appeal, a very expensive appeal in some cases but an appeal nonetheless haha!
@Felhasz007
@Felhasz007 Жыл бұрын
Even though I am not going to buy these expensive cameras it’s interesting to see the comparison. Lol!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
You never know! Every now and again I hear about people finding them for crazy deals in weird locations so that's my hope for you and myself ahah! Glad you enjoyed the comparison!
@Narsuitus
@Narsuitus Жыл бұрын
I use a Leica M6 body with the following lenses: Leitz 90mm f/2 Summicron Zeiss 35mm f/1.4 Distagon Leitz 21mm f/1.4 Summilux I also use two Contax G1 bodies with the following lenses: Zeiss 90mm f/2.8 Sonnar Zeiss 45mm f/2 Planar Zeiss 28mm f/2.8 Biogon Zeiss 21mm f/2.8 Biogon Each camera, with its own set of lenses, is enough for me to photograph most situations. However, when I do not have time to quickly change lenses, I prefer to carry three bodies with a lens mounted on each body. My favorite combination is: 21mm f/2.8 Zeiss on Contax G1 green label plus accessory viewfinder 35mm f/1.4 Zeiss on Leica M6 90mm f/2.8 Zeiss on Contax G1 white label My second favorite combination is: 21mm f/1.4 Leitz on Leica M6 plus accessory viewfinder 45mm f/2 Zeiss on Contax G1 90mm f/2.8 Zeiss on Contax G1 My third favorite combination is: 28mm f/2.8 Zeiss on Contax G1 45mm f/2 Zeiss on Contax G1 90mm f/2 Leitz on Leica M6 My favorite combination for landscape photography is: 21mm f/1.4 Leitz on Leica M6 plus accessory viewfinder 28mm f/2.8 Zeiss on Contax G1 45mm f/2 Zeiss on Contax G1
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Oh wow so awesome that you’ve got such a lovely thorough kit and can mix and combine things depending on your needs! I’ll keep your combinations in mind if I have the opportunity to compare a selection like yours at some point, thank you for sharing!
@Nedumgottil
@Nedumgottil Жыл бұрын
You mentioned you might sell your G2 near the end of your video. Is there another 35mm camera you would get or are you going to only focus on Medium Format?
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’d pick up another 35mm cam any time soon, I’ll still run the nikonoses for underwater stuff and am not considering letting go of the f3 just yet but the g2 is a thought, I still don’t know if I’ll be able to bring myself to do it though I love it so much ahaha. For color work I’ll definitely be focusing on medium format and up though!
@lofistartupHQ
@lofistartupHQ Жыл бұрын
My favourite channel 🔥
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly my good sir! Looking forward to some more McDonald’s pov time in the not too distant future 😤
@AManWhoWasntThere
@AManWhoWasntThere Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, as always! Both cameras are awesome. For the Leica keep in mind that you don't have to use Leica lenses. The modern Voigtländer lenses are fantastic in their own right. And the Zeiss ZM range is very similar if not identical to the Contax G lenses. Much cheaper than buying Leica glass.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! That’s a great point! In this video I was more trying to compare the leica setup directly to the g2 setup, but on a personal level I think if I ever got a leica I’d be looking very keenly at some zeiss ZM stuff now haha, thank you for sharing!
@starkiemerrick4746
@starkiemerrick4746 Жыл бұрын
That m6 is nice man. Might have to look into them a-bit more -_-
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ahahaha nooo your g2 is brand new to you and has more features, just start an m6 fund for if something ever goes wrong with your g2 lolol!
@pain6154
@pain6154 Жыл бұрын
The Contax g2 is a dream camera for me and unfortunately thats all it ever will be due to it being ridiculously overpriced haha
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Keep an eye out amigo! I hear tales not infrequently of people scoring big on fb marketplace and such!
@pain6154
@pain6154 Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin will do!!
@michaelroshko7067
@michaelroshko7067 Жыл бұрын
take a look into the G1! It’s 98% as many features/as good to use as the G2, at under a quarter of the price!
@CasnioMiCasio
@CasnioMiCasio Жыл бұрын
I was too in the decision for buying a Contax G1-G2 or Leica M, but then i bought two cameras the Leica CL & the Minolta CLE for the price of one Contax or Leica M body, 4 years later im still very happy with them and see no rational reason for replacing them.
@clarhettcoalfield3616
@clarhettcoalfield3616 Жыл бұрын
I'll stick to my OG Contax IIa or my Nikon SP, if I need a rangefinder fix. And I'll kick it into cheap and cheerful gear if needed with my Canon Canonet GIII 17. Not that the cameras you reviewed are slouches by any means but the cost of lenses for the Leica or the Contax G2 are just too pricey for me, not to mention the cost of their repair.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ooooh I love a Nikon SP that’s always been on my camera bucket list haha, maybe someday. Both of these are definitely leaning more into the heirloom camera price point hey, just a shame that the g2 isn’t really going to be an heirloom since it’s gonna die at some point. I fortunately managed to get mine for next to nothing compared to what they go for now since I got interested in them at a good time and found a deal, but there’s no way I could justify owning and using either the way I like to use cameras out and about haha! The cost of repair is indeed not even worth mentioning 😖 but at least with the leica it will continue to be an option, as opposed to the g2 which is facing imminent irreparability
@clarhettcoalfield3616
@clarhettcoalfield3616 Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin Having spent the last 35+ years repairing and restoring analogue film cameras and lenses, the repairing of my film cameras is not a big concern, unless we're talking about the electronics of a modern analogue film camera. And the number one issue with those delicate PCB electronics is corrosion due to 'Sodium Chloride - NaCl' in the vapour of saltwater air. It's not the saltwater itself that is dangerous to the equipment you use, it's the invisible saltwater air you can't see, that creeps into and onto the sensitive electronic PCB's. NaCl is attracted chemically to Solder that is attached to copper. Once inside the camera, it begins the process of altering the copper sitting under the solder first turning the copper black, and the solder a bluish-green. The result is the polarization of the copper preventing it from properly directing electrical current, then allowing dendrite growth on surface of the solder (green-blue calcification and white sodium scaling) making the PCB inert and unable to function - or in layman's terms, bricking your camera.
@johntibbit9121
@johntibbit9121 Жыл бұрын
@@clarhettcoalfield3616 This was worth reading, thanks.
@thearchive64
@thearchive64 Жыл бұрын
@6:42 there's a heart on the chair
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Well spotted! I actually found someone’s drivers license on the ground there too haha! Went and dropped it at the police station after we were done filming, a fruitful location lol!
@Clodrock
@Clodrock 6 ай бұрын
Inherited a mint 3-lens G2 kit with the flash. Going to shoot with this thing till it dies!
@batugul6952
@batugul6952 Жыл бұрын
Stoked that Hype bill be bakk, also first comment with proper hype
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ahah he pretty much existed throughout the whole out shooting sequence hey!
@luram3118
@luram3118 Ай бұрын
Where is he from? Dies anyone know what his accent is called or where it's from? He speaks quite forward in his mouth. Is it one of the many accents from the british islands?
@lentefrente
@lentefrente Жыл бұрын
Why again would you sell the G2 after 6 years of owning? Didn’t understand that
@MARKLINMAN1
@MARKLINMAN1 Жыл бұрын
I Love my M6, I HAVE one from 1996 and wouldn't trade it for anything.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
One year younger than me and still going strong hah! That's awesome, I wish I'd gotten into film in like 2010 then I'd have a bunch of reeaally nice cameras lol!
@CristianGeelen
@CristianGeelen Жыл бұрын
Will is tha man!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
You're tha man!
@louissmith6584
@louissmith6584 3 ай бұрын
Good video, well done.
@alnico68
@alnico68 Жыл бұрын
I owned both. G2 would be perfect if the AF would be reliable. You can never be 100% sure the camera focused where you wanted especially at large apertures. The leica is 100% reliable for me, hence I can use for my work. The G2 has always only be a 'holiday' camera since I could not depend on it. The G series lens is great, so great that I bought the funleader Leica adapted version.
@bebox7
@bebox7 Жыл бұрын
I've owned both as well and that's exactly the issue. The G2 is such an amazing camera and the lenses are wonderful but it's the only camera I have ever used where, apart from seeing the meterage in the VF, I have no idea whether my shot is perfectly in focus or not. I am back to using my M4-2 and a Zeiss ZM lens and I know the focus is dead on each and every time.
@fabricetranzerphotographer
@fabricetranzerphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@bebox7 yes. Not to mention a Leica is serviceable. I also owned a Contax 645 and sold it because it could turn into a really expensive paper weight at any time...
@bebox7
@bebox7 Жыл бұрын
@@fabricetranzerphotographer That's true although there are a few more places now outside of Japan that are able to service the Contax thankfully but it's always a gamble at the prices they sell for now.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
A valid point! I personally stopped struggling with the AF after a while and haven't had an issue that wasn't a result of my own mistake that I can think of in years, however there really is no replacement for being completely in control of your focus and knowing that it's on you. I guess that's why I enjoy the RB so much haha
@kevin-parratt-artist
@kevin-parratt-artist Жыл бұрын
▪︎ There are different models of the M6 ▪︎ There are several M Leicas to choose from. ▪︎ The M7 has an electronic shutter with manual override, should the battery fail. ▪︎ The light meters in M and R Leicas are excellent. ▪︎ I own and use film Leicas from the earliest to the current, most of which are without Light meters. ▪︎ I considered buying a Contax G when they were released, and very quickly decided against it. Failed electronics means photography shut-down.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Ah so you saw the writing on the wall and avoided owning it all together! A sound decision I reckon! Although I would say you’re missing out because the G2 is a beautiful machine, pretty much the only true down side is the limited shelf life, other than that it’s an absolute joy to use
@kevin-parratt-artist
@kevin-parratt-artist Жыл бұрын
@willysheepskin Yes, but I wanted to be wrong. It's a lovely item to behold, and being a Classic Hasselblad owner, the Zeiss lenses are a most attractive feature. 👌
@pgwcdlsb
@pgwcdlsb Жыл бұрын
Great video dude! If you liked shooting the M6 you could try to get an M3 or M4. The experience is very similar and they are still much cheaper!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it! Also that's exactly my plan! I've always had the M4 as my leica option if I were to go that route, although at this stage even an M4-P is on the list haha, just need to win the lottery and I'll be ready to go lol!
@pain6154
@pain6154 Жыл бұрын
WILLY!
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
PAIIIIIIIN THE STREAK CONTINUEEEES 😤
@slothsarecool
@slothsarecool Жыл бұрын
During the day you don’t even need to focus really 😬, I guess depends on the lens but 35/28 you can pretty much have everything in focus and just leave it there all day
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
My good friend James has an M4 he’s always done that with haha! In this context I was aiming for critical focus every time since I was matching apertures between cameras and didn’t want to have anything impact sharpness outside of the lens itself, but your advice is definitely tried and true in a general context!
@slothsarecool
@slothsarecool Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskinI appreciate your humbleness 😁
@mayasarembock8739
@mayasarembock8739 Жыл бұрын
Milkshake Ocean Foam
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
If oooonly it was delicious instead of disgusting
@furiouzzzz
@furiouzzzz 11 ай бұрын
Identical outcome for both
@silentrunning3100
@silentrunning3100 Жыл бұрын
someone had to do it..
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Curiosity and opportunity combined for a joyous experience!
@silentrunning3100
@silentrunning3100 Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin for sure.
@goldenhourkodak
@goldenhourkodak Жыл бұрын
Why does nobody use Contax SLR's?
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm seems like a good idea for a comparison methinks! That’s a good question though, the lenses are also amazing, maybe they’re just criminally underrated still, might have to go find out haha!
@EmilyKingo099
@EmilyKingo099 Жыл бұрын
1:54 can i know the filter please
@krishnapriyaka3261
@krishnapriyaka3261 Жыл бұрын
top 10 anime battle
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Kamehameha!
@clairescheepers
@clairescheepers Жыл бұрын
Huzza
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Huzzaaaa!!
@JermaleTheGREAT
@JermaleTheGREAT Ай бұрын
Just get a G2 from KEH with a warranty and you’d be good.
@Old-School-Liberal
@Old-School-Liberal Жыл бұрын
I had the G2 for 8 years and sold it . The M6 wins!
@renguney
@renguney Жыл бұрын
sceond (intentionally)
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Very nearly!! 😏
@renguney
@renguney Жыл бұрын
first
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
Not quite my friend but a valiant attempt!
@renguney
@renguney Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin I'm crying
@clairescheepers
@clairescheepers Жыл бұрын
@@willysheepskin was it me or the usual suspect ? 🤪👀👀
@randallstewart1224
@randallstewart1224 Жыл бұрын
I made and deleted a comment. I don't really care which camera system someone would buy, as I would never buy either one at prevailing prices, given the limited utility of both systems. By any practical measure, 35mm rangefinder (auto or manual) should have died out around 1970.
@willysheepskin
@willysheepskin Жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting stance! I for one am glad they didn’t die out, and I hope you at least got some of what you where looking for when you clicked on the comparison video! Thanks for stopping by!
@klausmuhlbach1869
@klausmuhlbach1869 12 күн бұрын
The rock isn't intact either.
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