Leica SL2 Review and the L Mount Alliance Experience (Leica, Panasonic, Sigma)

[@kayreezy]

Every time I see a new review from Bobby, I immediately click and watch.

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks Karl for the support. Means a lot

[@suspectdegree9845]

u forgot to add,” i’m a simple man” at the start

[@KCHAEnel]

Just bought it today and found this up on KZbin now. It is heavy, but I'm excited to take this out and do some damage. I enjoy your videos. keep up the good work!

[@TECH360TV]

Congrats and thanks for watching

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

The Lightroom portion of this video really elevated the review providing a useful insight into the potential of the lenses, but also the importance of editing technique. Nicely done.

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks Marcus. I try to do this as much as possible to show a bit of the process and end results

[@rauljohnpaul]

By far this is becoming the best photo youtube channel

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks for the kind words

[@_o__o_]

cant decide between food or SL2

[@TECH360TV]

Many face this decision. Those very thin leica shooters chose the camera 😂

[@davidlewis1787]

SL2 , You will get so skinny you can make the money back modelling, and do your own photos

[@TECH360TV]

Whatever works 😂

[@JonJakubcin]

SL2 and take pictures of food...

[@chepo1956]

Hey Bobby, Jose from Puerto Rico. You did it man! You finally got this camera in your hands and it was a wonderful review. If I had the means, I'd buy this camera in a heartbeat. Its a beautiful kit and you nailed it when you said that this is a camera you can just put it on a shelf to look at. Its an art piece for sure.

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks Jose! Had a great time reviewing it

[@Bryan-lu4du]

Best camera I’ve ever used. I absolutely love it. The auto focus is decent but not wonderful, I hope Leica continues to update that through firmware and maybe a quantum leap for the SL3 when it comes out 3 or 4 years from now.

[@TECH360TV]

Agree. Hope they continue to update it as well.

[@Renzsu]

Did firmware v3 improve things?

[@Bryan-lu4du]

@@Renzsu A little bit, yes

[@gam3955]

V5 is out since few months, try it. I personally never use AF (on Leica Lenses) even with AF lenses

[@ianbrown704]

As always great review Bobby, I had a Sony A7R IV all singing and dancing, but it felt like a camera that was made by an electronics company rather than a camera company. Sony know how to make great TV's and Playstations, but when it comes to cameras Leica just "feel" special and have it nailed. Stay Safe and thanks. Ian (UK)

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks Ian. Yes different cameras for sure.

[@coasttocoastphoto]

I’m still happy with my SL and its output. I am able to easily hit focus without any problems except for very fast moving subjects at close range. If I’m shooting running dogs, then I take more photos knowing that I’ll get one that I want with more to choose from. It’s just a matter of practicing good technique. What’s important is not so much how many AF points that the camera has as the quality of the images it produces. I sold two Canon 5DSR’s and a 5D4 and eleven of Canon’s best lenses to get an SL and an SL 24-90 and an SL 90-280. I kept my 55 Zeiss Otus and got a Novoflex adaptor which works flawlessly with manual focus. I have no regrets parting ways with Canon as my hit rate improved, and with the preferred images, there's less to edit. And less to carry. Another point that came up in the video is the question about the Leica SL 16-35. I have since added this lens, and I must say that it is one of my favorites. I always look forward to using it as it is tack sharp, and with its contrast and wider perspective, it makes some crazy good pictures. Try this lens with animals. It’s greater depth and some cropping might give you the results that you want. Should I get the SL2? I’m thinking about it. I wouldn’t mind having the benefit of stabilization or some more resolution. But wait, I also have an S007 and a Q. One other benefit with Leica is that they make their own adaptors including the S to L adaptor which allows the use of S glass on the SL. So in addition to the above mentioned lenses, I can use the following: 24, 45, 70, 100 and 180. The review mentions the quality of the video from the SL2. I am trying to grasp the many aspects of this process and appreciated seeing some footage. I believe a feature of the Lumix glass, omitted in the video, is that they do not focus breathe. @coasttocoastphotoatl

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks for the comment. SL is still a workhorse and a fantastic camera. SL2 will give you the IBIS and resolution video you need to play with to get the most out of it. However it seems you have the best of all worlds with medium format in your kit so it may or may not benefit you as much. The 007 is a fantastic camera with high IQ

[@ikakau]

You really hit it on the head, the one thing that may have been said is that you can use Leica “M” mount lenses with a adapter. That really expands the lens line up. I have 2 vintage lenses with M mounts that I use with my SL2, s canon 50 f0.95 and a Leica 75 f1.7 and both work wonderfully with the SL2. I also have a Sigma 24-70 f2.8 and a Leica 90-280 f2.8 and look forward to adding either the Leica 35 or 50 one day.

[@TECH360TV]

Yes agree. Honestly there is so much more to talk about on this camera I could have filmed an hour long review and I would have missed some things. But agree with you it does expand the usability of the camera.

[@vinyalonde]

Thank you for posting this. This is a truly tempting camera system.

[@rafaelkamaltdinov]

Hello Bobby, thank you for great review. I bought sigma 45/2.8 DN L for my Leica SL2 и also ordered the new sigma 85/1.4 art dn L. Then I will order Leica 90/2 for portraits. As you noticed, Leica lenses are the best lenses of the market.

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks! Much appreciated. If you got the 85 1.4 no need for the 90. Would opt for another focal length. My opinion, 35 f2 or 50 f2 instead. Those lenses are amazing

[@rafaelkamaltdinov]

Ok Bobby. The 50/2 apo-summiricon would be my next lense. Thanks

[@TECH360TV]

No prob. Enjoy

[@hioe04]

love it. i like it with M lenses. IBIS with M lenses is just amazing

[@shauwnKnight]

I'll keep saying it. Your reviews and content are so good!

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks Shauwn!

[@einarlandre5386]

Great video of a fantastic camera. Got mine a week ago. Using it with M lenses, in process of deciding the first SL lens.

[@TECH360TV]

Congrats! A number of great options. If you want to use a leica lens and a prime the 35f2 is fantastic

[@AuntieLiz]

Thanks! Was researching this all week, so am happy 24mins ago you posted this, woo! Can't decide between gfx 100 and SL2.

[@TECH360TV]

Tough decision. Depends on your photography. Medium format beautiful to see and the image is really something, but the file sizes are massive and if you are just posting on social media you might find yourself downsizing like crazy to use the image.

[@hRs1337]

hey kaizen, i actually invested in the gfx100 over the sl2 and they both have their strong points and their weaknesses. are you currently invested in the sl system or the gfx system with lenses? i love the images from the gfx100, but i still tend to reach for my original sl when i don't need the extra resolution. lately, it's been nothing but sl for me, even tho the gfx has phase detect autofocus and superior focusing all around. the gfx has made me stop and think before i take images on a whiff - "do i really need this in 103 megapixels?" - and alot of the times i've re-evaluated the subject and deemed it to not be as interesting as i initially thought. i still see this as a strong suit tho, as you're doing the same thing when you're shooting film. "do i really need to spend one of my 36 frames with this subject?". now, i haven't tried shooting with the sl2 yet - but i can still say that working with the raw files of the original sl and the gfx100 is very different. i have to say that the sl files put more of a smile on my face so far, but i have to use the gfx100 more to get to know its strengths better.

[@TECH360TV]

This is a very fair and honest assessment and I agree with you. I don’t own either camera unfortunately but have used both extensively. Medium format cameras will slow you down and as a result the images you get will be more keepers than not. The SL2 is a bit different from the SL in terms of IQ. Yes it has more MP but it’s slightly different. Better or worse is hard to say because they are both good but it’s just different

[@hRs1337]

@@TECH360TV reading it again, it seems as if i'm kind of harsh on both systems, that is not my intention at all. they are so versatile on their own that i find it impossible to replace either of them to go with just one system - even tho that would be the economical thing to do ;))

[@fotonutzz]

Beautiful review on the SL2 with a variety of lenses. I’ve been using my SL since 2017 and upgraded to the SL2 in January 2020. I prefer the SL2 over my other Leica cameras or my 1DXii. The handling and tactile feeling of the SL2 is more refined than the M. AF, though not as fast as the competitors is good enough for my needs. If I need to shoot anything faster, I’ll use the 1DXii. Thank you for reviewing and comparing the Sigma & Panasonic lenses against the Leica. Although I don’t hv any Sigma or Panasonic lenses, I’m surprised that the IQ is relatively good. Great video.....

[@TECH360TV]

Thank for you the kind words. Yes I agree with your thoughts on it as well. The best of both worlds is the combo you have. The 1DX is one of my favourite cameras

[@unsusee2363]

Finally your review is out..couldn't wait and got my SL2 with the 50 APO SL last week. Were you able to compare the 50 APO SL and the 50 Summilux SL on the SL2? Looking at images from various postings, the 50 Summilux has great colours and rendering. Good review.

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks for watching. I have compared them. The 50 apo is sharper and smaller in size. The bokeh of the summilux is beautiful. Alternatively you can also look at the Lumix S Pro 50 1.4 as it performs close to the summilux but less expensive if budget is a concern.

[@petermendelson5839]

@@TECH360TV I had the 50mm APO SL and it's incredible. Now I'm interested in the 50mm SL Summilux for it's different rendering - as Red Dot Forum's webcast on L lenses noted, the Summilux can provide a different look if you have other SL Summicrons in other focal lengths and want a little variety. It's a huge beast of a lens though...

[@ahmonon4352]

The way how you describe a product is very flattering, I wonder which lens isn't wonderful/amazing/outstanding and one of the best among those you've reviewed, lol 😂😂😂

[@TECH360TV]

Lol!!! Good point. To be honest I don’t waste my time on bad lenses unless I have to haha. Too many products to review.

[@nelsoncheetube]

Great content bro. Would like to request you to do a comparison with Sony 50mm f1. 2 vs Summilux please 🙏🙏🙏✌️

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks for watching! Appreciate it!

[@nohaybandaninguna]

Best SL2 review I’ve seen so far, and I’ve seen many! Any thoughts on low light capability? I’ve read that it’s not so good and was a bit surprised, would love to hear your experience.

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks 🙏. Low light is okay. You will see more noise than a 24mp sensor for sure. If your work depends on Low light performance on a camera and you want the SL2, invest in some 1.4 lenses.

[@DidierMOULINPhotography]

At 22:00 I covered a car race with the APO SL 90 SUMMICRON ON S1R with impressive razor sharp images in focus on moving racing cars. If you know how to shoot racing cars you can go with it.

[@TECH360TV]

I have with the SL and I’ve used the S1R to capture fast action as well. The S1R currently has better AF in this regard

[@davidwallace8980]

100% Hype! When buying a tool for payed work performance and function is more important then hype!

[@ricardorgomez]

I love that SL2. You are absolutely correct: when you pick one up, there's nothing else like it. The build/image quality and simplicity. Love it. The only issue I have with it is 3rd party lighting system support. I think the camera is geared for its typical user: street and studio photographers. TTL and HSS just aren't that important. I don't see people using a Leica for event and other types of photographer where those features are handy. I think the only flash system that supports HSS on the Leica is Nissin? I think that's it. If they copied the Panasonic or Canon/Nikon protocols... Damn, I think I'd have to buy one just to impress clients. I think if you're a Leica lover, the SL2 is a damn fine camera especially for the types of photography I stated. But for my needs, the Swiss Army Panasonic S1R is the better choice for lighting system choices mostly. Well done on the video!

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks Ricardo. Agree on lighting, the Achilles heal for this camera with some professionals. I do know of photographers that use other lighting systems with it but for HSS no luck. I’ve asked a number of companies and they all said the same thing, if the numbers were there in terms of cameras in the market with demand they would make it, but in this segment of the market Leica is currently more niche than others. I would say and pro that wants an SL2 as a second body get the S1 or S1R for those lighting needs

[@FauxtakuLounge]

I’ve been using flashes made for canon and or fujifilm cameras for events and advertising without problem. The thing is that, in the odd circumstance that I need TTL there are few good options.

[@leica_sl2]

Thx for a great VID just bought a SL2(which at the moment here in Australia.17 June 2021. costs from RRP AUD $9900(see Leica Aust) down to a special witch I paid $8890.maybe at Xmas time it could be on special agian!? who knows?).My question is What's the brand of the camera strap are you using?

[@btonelli]

Thanks for watching. Peak design strap

[@DidierMOULINPhotography]

Man I stop you at 5:20. Images on the S1R are razor sharp as soon as you use SL lenses believe me and I can show you portraits done on the S1R to confirm what I say. Please don’t spoil wrong information. Ok that being said I continue watching your video

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks for continuing to watch. Yes the SL lenses are sharp and even on the S1R, however the lenses with the SL2 are sharper than the S1R. Slightly but there is a difference. Having said that this comparison is really someone pixel peeping, most wouldn’t see it

[@cfagil]

Thank you for the review. I don't upgrade my SL to SL2 because I don't need the resolution increase to 46MP. IBIS is nice but not a must. SL2-S may be a better choice. Even better if Leica decides to do a SL2-D (purely for still photos) with no video, no AFC or any type of tracking. It would be fantastic for landscape, portrait or subjects that don't move more than 5 mph. I will definitely buy the SL2-D as long as Leica does not adhere to its "Charge you more for less" policy. I will only use a mirrorless camera to shoot fast action photos like birds in flight if I have not got my Nikon D500 or D4s with me. For dogs running in the park, I may bring my Sony A7III or A9 at a push. You are so diplomatic about what SL2 can't do. You sure you don't sell cars for a living? You will be very good at selling a Porsche 911 to someone who wants to go off-road rally; I can hear you saying "it is useable"; "It can be done"; "just need to work on the technique" or "Great for Social Media especially when they see you doing it". Don't get me wrong, I love my SL and my little sports car.

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks for watching. Some interesting points here :) I don’t see Leica coming out with a D version of the camera. I think they are going to push the use of video more in their cameras for future content creators so I think the D version will be left to the M system. Hahaha I don’t think I could be that good at selling a 911. I’m prob more diplomatic on the SL2 because I see the target audience for this camera. I can’t compare it to a 1DX or A9 or those type of cameras as it’s not designed that way. I have been vocal about the AF on the camera. Can someone get some really good photos out of it regardless? Yes and I’ve seen them do it and I’ve done it, but I would like to see the AF improved and buffer on the SL2.

[@jtes1442]

Beautiful camera , but a bit overpriced . No CFEXPRESS , tilting screen , and mediocre AF? Does it have a joystick ? I feel you’re being too generous to the SL2 .

[@TECH360TV]

Has one of the best joysticks on any camera. Agree on lack of CF Express and tilting screen but the image quality and build make up for it in my opinion.

[@darshanex110]

hi bobby , i see your all reviews , all the reviews are nice ..i have leica sl2 with leica 50mm noitulux0.95mmx ,50mm noitulux is bit heavy for me to carry.. now i want a auto focus leica lens for sl2 which should i buy so i can travel light with less weight .. please guide me..boss waiting for your reply..thanks always..!

[@TECH360TV]

Hi. Thanks for watching. If you want a smaller 50 and want the lens to be a Leica then there is the SL 50 Summicron If you are open to the L Mount alliance options then the Panasonic Lumix S Pro 50 is a fantastic lens. Also look at Sigma options as well as they have a number of lenses that are light weight, AF and also great image quality.

[@darshanex110]

@@TECH360TV yes thanks....50mm summicron sl will do...i will buy it .thanks...bobby dear

[@wilbuzllf5057]

Superb review as always, some of the best on youtube for sure! Have an S1R coming this week and very happy about that, beautiful camera in a beautiful system. Perhaps I can save up for a Leica 50 F2 or 90-280 in the future :D Btw, it would be very interesting to know what you shoot with as a personal choice?

[@TECH360TV]

Thank you! Congrats on the S1R, great camera

[@wilbuzllf5057]

Thank you :)

[@withfilm]

While I want the SL2, I also want those glasses! Roka Lockhart?

[@PaoloInselvini82]

In terms of quality the S1r is so distance from the SL2? I tested an Sl2 and wow what a camera, but talking about money is it worth it for you? Is it not better to invest maybe in SL lenses?

[@frankwu1713]

I've been using my newly acquired SL2 with the APO 50 for weeks now, and I am thinking about getting the 24-70 Lumix and Sigma 85 DG DN lens, should I get it...

[@TECH360TV]

All good lenses and will make an awesome kit

[@DidierMOULINPhotography]

At 10:30... look fuji x100v how they wonderfully handle this issue placing an articulating screen of which you see nothing about the articulation until you discover it is... they could have made the effort.

[@TECH360TV]

Agree 💯

[@tamayo_fotos]

Still waiting for a full profoto ttl and hss compatibility. I don't understand why the don't wanna do it

[@TECH360TV]

Comes down to economics. Not enough Leica’a out there for Profoto to design a system for them. If Leica used the same connectors as Panasonic then it wouldn’t be an issue, but they don’t.

[@jacobh5817]

I’ve been told by my Profoto rep. that Leica support is scheduled for later this year. End of last year we finally had the tethered shooting support in Capture One, but Profoto support would make the SL2 a great camera for studio fashion and portraits. Beautiful Hasselblad-like skin tones and super easy post processing files.

[@tangosix5779]

great review. can you offer an opinion of which leica you prefer to use the most?

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks. I like the Monochrom quite a bit, CL and also the SL2-S. I have a MP a la carte which is beautiful to use as well.

[@locker1964]

The Leica SL2 has also become interesting in terms of price with the lenses from Sigma/Panasonic. The weaknesses of the autofocus are not very important for me, because I rather take pictures of landscapes. But what a NoGo is for me is the fixed screen. I often take pictures in unfavorable positions and that is very annoying. The form should follow the function, which was implemented very well with the Leica's operating concept - right down to the screen.

[@TECH360TV]

Understand. This is where Panasonic has an advantage. It’s unfortunate and I hope for the next version of the SL they include an articulating screen.

[@petermendelson5839]

Apparently Leica now has an optical right angle finder for the SL2 - it may be hard to find though. But would be good for landscape photography...you could also use your phone and the Fotos app

[@kolapyellow7631]

It looks very nice. Wai wait for the price. !

[@TECH360TV]

Its a beautifully made camera positioned at the luxury camera market.

[@rumporridge1]

@@TECH360TV I love luxury. Only live once my friend. My SL2 with the 75mm APO is sublime.

[@elderinmoi1571]

Unedited RAW files from other companies look like an accident in comparison to what Leica files look like since the M8. In every regard. Sharpness, color, contrast you name it. Granted this is with Leica glass. Nor saying that you can’t get amazing images with any other camera but it just needs work and you can tell that you start on just another level.

[@TECH360TV]

I agree raw files from Leica tend to look really good straight out of camera, in my non biased point of view based on experience, other companies are doing well in this regard. It really comes down to what your editing style is and how you work with files. Certain cameras takes a while to get the feel. Others immediate.

[@miloradkaravidin8818]

Thanks for great review. One question. Which one is better Nikon 70-200 2.8s or Panasonic 70-200 2.8? Keep safe and keep videos coming!

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks Milorad. I would say the Nikon

[@cfagil]

@@TECH360TV Not only the lens but a Nikon camera body with an optical view finder as well if you want to have a setup with a decent (or truly usable) AFC-Tracking. I have not used AFC or field focus mode or video on my SL since I got it.

[@nickvoorhees2682]

For the price would you say A7s3 and A7r4 for 6500 or SL2 for 6000

[@TECH360TV]

Ooohhh that’s tough. I really like the A7SIII hahaha. IQ for video is fantastic I’ll say this, it really depends what you are using the camera for. I consider Sony Cameras work horses. They just work when you need them to. Leica is a camera that you pick up to enjoy the process of photography.

[@TL-vt8uk]

Any comments about the 100-400mm? I noticed you had 1 photo shown from this lens? Considering it as a tele for my SL2. Thx.

[@TECH360TV]

Hi. Yes, I did a full review of it on the channel. Should answer some questions you might have

[@Photojouralist123]

Did you know on my SL2 if your battery is at half the continuous shooting will NOT work it shuts down!

[@andrewporfyri559]

Hi Bobby, great review.If Sigma& Panasonic produce L mount lenses for the Leica do you see any problem or negatives using an adapter to use Canon EF L series lenses ? Asking because I use canon TS lenses for Architectural work.

[@TECH360TV]

No prob. You still just have to rely Lon manual focusing which is what you are doing already

[@hRs1337]

great review, would have loved to see some more samples of the 16-35 lens as it is the only viable leica option for wide landscapes ;) the sl2 and q2 are cameras that i really want, but can't upgrade to because of one shortcoming i've kinda gotten stuck on. the original q got me into leica because of the amazing and beautiful color of the raw files. i sold off all my sony gear (big sony fan for a long time) to get the SL instead as it shared sensor with the q - and it did not disappoint. however, the q2 almost has as as bad colors as my old sony systems, and even tho the sl2 has fixed that to some extent, the noise is just as prominent as in the original q and sl. it's a bump in resolution and technical specs, but no improvement in low light and worse colors. kinda hoping there'll be a q2-p or sl2-p with the m10r sensor instead, it looks very promising in this regard =)

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks for watching. Yes I had to limit some time with the 16-35 only because it’s a lens that’s been out for some time and I wanted to highlight some of the newer lenses. Unfortunately High iso performance needs to be improved on. Perhaps a firmware update can address some of this. Not sure by how much but we can only hope. I haven’t tried the M10 R yet but from what i experience with the Monochrom If it handles low light like that camera it will be fantastic

[@hRs1337]

@@TECH360TV i mean, being reasonable - tradeoffs usually have to be made on sensor performance. the sl2 holds its own with the competition, but the colors from the now five years old sensor of the q and sl is just beyond anything digital leica has produced before. in my own opinion ofc ;) huge thanks for posting these videos, they're so much more personal and enjoyable than standard reviews ;) your enthusiasm really shines through.

[@TECH360TV]

Yes agree the colors on the Q and SL are fantastic. Thanks for the kind words. I’m fortunate to be able to review so many great cameras it’s just a joy to photograph with them test them out.

[@petermendelson5839]

I use the Leica WATE 16-18-21mm as a viable Leica option for wide landscapes - it's excellent on the SL2 and way, way smaller. Still, I'd like the 16-35mm too ;)

[@petermendelson5839]

BTW, the Canon 11-24mm is incredible on the SL2 as well for super wide shots.

[@hakurou2170]

Will you review Leica M10R too Bobby?

[@TECH360TV]

Trying to get it. Hopefully soon

[@MarkPMus]

Sorry to be a bore, but this isn’t to do with the camera, rather your review of it. I’m not sure why you’re including photos that you’re having to make excuses for. Number 1, you take beautiful pictures. The photos of the lion that you said “wasn’t tack” and the little boy whose glasses were more in focus than the eyes were both lovely photos and no one would split hairs the way you are doing. Number 2 This is a camera/lens system worth tens of thousands of dollars. For you to dismiss certain aspects of the results as “good enough for social media” is tantamount to saying don’t buy it! An iPhone is good enough for social media. Cartier-Bresson used a Leica and a reviewer of his work said that if God had a camera, these are the photos He’d take! In other words, good enough for the celestial realms and doubtlessly full of love for his subjects. I have picked up a film Leica in a store, and I’m sold. It makes the canon DSLR bodies I have look like a club boot. Be grateful you’ve had the chance to use such fantastic gear. Don’t be over critical of your work. It’s fab. From the little I’ve seen.

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks for taking the time to write this out. Also humbled by your thoughts about my photos. When I do these reviews and critique images I took I need to think of a variety of viewers watching this. Those that don’t care about sharpness or the subtle details but the overall image and those that will dissect every image pointing out all the flaws etc. When I say good enough for social media I’m referring to the fact majority of photos never make it to print. They stay on phones, Facebook, Instagram etc. So I’m essence it’s okay not to be tact sharp if that’s what your using the photos for. Thank you though for your overall kind words. Much appreciated

[@manilamartin1001]

Well said!

[@pierre-philippejulien6298]

It’s funny to see reviewers crucified the Panasonic s1r autofocus and they show more forgiveness for the Leica sl2 , just because it’s luxury brand . Both of them suck . I have tried the Leica lens on my Panasonic s1r , i got the same type of image as I was using the Leica . If You can’t afford the sl2 , buy a s1r used and invest your money in some good lenses .

[@TECH360TV]

Actually the AF on the S1R is slightly better currently. I’ll be talking about this more in my long term S1R review. Currently this year has been challenging for many companies so I’m hoping Leica comes out with a big update to improve it.

[@TECH360TV]

Very true. I’ve heard the new S5’s AF system is much better and it will come to the S1R as an update. Hopefully Leica adopts this as well.

[@manostroulinos1726]

Great review and comparison, thank you very much for sharing! A comment for the videographer, I hope you don't mind. When you are shooting Bobby face-on, when he talks about a certain lens, and he actually has the lens mounted on the camera he is holding, you zoom too close to show what he is actually holding. We can only see the lens he is describing either in the B-Roll from time to time (usually a very close close-up of the lens lasting a couple of seconds), or when Bobby raises his hands with the camera while he is talking. Now, this may seem minor, but looking at the lens - while Bobby is talking (and not only during B-roll) - in comparison top Bobby's hands and body size is quite important for the viewer to get a better feeling of the size, bulk, looks of the lens. After all, these factors are also important in any buying decision making. Zooming slightly (very slightly) out, during these shots, will not ruin the one-to-one feeling of Bobby talking directly to the viewers (which is great), but will also allow including the camera/lens into the frame. Usually in these cases there is also enough empty space above Bobby's head to be able to do that, just by recomposing (lowering the camera slightly) if you don't really want to zoom-out. By doing both (slightly zooming-out plus a slight recompose), nobody will notice the difference, and the camera/lens Bobby is holding will be fully visible in the frame. And another comment, regarding the final cut of the video: when you are showing us sample images, please leave them for a few more seconds on screen, we need to pause the video all the time to look at the image and also read the metadata shown. Just a few more seconds would greatly improve the experience. Many thanks again to all the team!

[@TECH360TV]

Thanks Manos. I have forwarded your comments to our production team for our future videos. Appreciate the time you spend writing the feedback

[@DidierMOULINPhotography]

At 19:38 how does this lumix 70-200 2.8 compare to the 90-280 APO SL ?

[@TECH360TV]

I couldn’t get the 90-280 to compare for this review but I feel the leica is sharper

[@DidierMOULINPhotography]

@@TECH360TV I made a short comparison between the APO 90 SL and the APO 90-280 during a test shooting with my daughter and it's hard to tell which is which !

[@thrallingFRglory]

Is this a re-upload? I can swear I’ve seen this before.

[@TECH360TV]

Not a re-upload

[@BazabamPictures]

My old canon 6d dinamic range better than leica sl2 😂. What a funny technology with higher prices in 2020. Leica is good for styling not for job. Let see sony a7iii technology and better price in 2020. But your video is good and entertaining.

[@TECH360TV]

Its not that bad haha. Actually I find at lower ISO the dynamic range is decent. Thanks for watching though

[@BazabamPictures]

@@TECH360TV actually worth it or not with deferent perspective. I just thinking for the best value for technology. 😊

[@jackm9008]

I'd really love to see some comparative (e.g., Leica versus Panny body) photos to back up the claims being made about the lens and sensor synergy. This review comes across like a piece of paid-for fluff; maybe it isn't, but without some actual comparison photos . . . -_-

[@TECH360TV]

We have no skin in the game on this review. Unfortunately it’s hard to have all the items I wish I could have for a comparison review. However if I can get the leica for a longer time frame will test this out

[@yapster804]

I have an SL1 and I recentlyI bought an EOS R for better AF. Canon lenses are great but still not at the level of leica. Leica just have such beautiful focus fall off. Everything looks 3D and live like. On some canon lenses, the images are sharp but they just look artificial and the subjects look like they are pasted onto the background.

[@TECH360TV]

Different rendering. Most lenses are really good these days, it’s just that small difference that makes a big impact.

[@michaelchoi2685]

S1R > SL2

[@TECH360TV]

Depends what your using it for

[@imahaingtia]

Is your background in marketing?

[@TECH360TV]

Did some but I work in media. Host and act in a variety of television shows in SE Asia

[@wir2]

Hi, can you tell me which settings you use when filming to the memory card? I find the contrasts too hard, the black too black and I don't get nice film shots from the camera.

[@TECH360TV]

Hi. I shoot in raw and edit from there. I usually bring contrast down and clarity down slightly in Lightroom I have found though that capture one handles the files quite nicely. If you are open to that give it a try

[@wir2]

@@TECH360TV Thanks for the quick response. But I'm not talking about photos, but about video with the SL2. :)

[@TECH360TV]

Understand. Yes this is an issue we came across as well. We edited the footage in post to be more inline with the other footage. If I get the camera back I want to do a video focused review on it.

[@philipsutton2316]

Hey dude - with a voice like that you should be testing tank systems or the latest surface to air missile - not cameras!

[@TECH360TV]

Lol!! Not sure how I could do real world reviews on those hahaha

[@markchan5516]

Too heavy on the hands even with a good grip. Weight is a huge disadvantage. No flip screen...other camera companies have answered on this need long ago.

[@TECH360TV]

Fair points but this is why not one camera is good for everyone. Your needs might be different than those that will appreciate the SL2.

[@cityproofdad]

sl2 is exact same camera as lumix

[@sabari6189]

What mount is it

[@TECH360TV]

L Mount

[@sabari6189]

@@TECH360TV and what mount is panasonic

[@sabari6189]

@@TECH360TV can I use panasonic lens on sl2

[@Stone1108]

It’s a cost justification battle for me, I’m on the brink of throwing caution to the wind! May sell my house!

[@infocuspixstudios8091]

if you use Holy trinity Lenses will blow your mind

[@DidierMOULINPhotography]

At 15:30 and just before, regarding APO SL SUMMICRON lenses... ho my God. I have the 90 and it’s just outstanding. Check my video where I test it!

[@TECH360TV]

Haha yea it is but when you try the 50 and the 35 they are even more so

[@DanTejedaFit]

“Even if it’s out of your budget, just pick it up”. Don’t have the money for it? Fuck it! Go broke! Just pick up a Leica! 😂

[@manchumuq]

Dude you sound more like a salesman than a tech reviewer...

[@TECH360TV]

Well I wish i got commission on what I review. Unfortunately this is all out of passion

[@obsidian00]

I still can’t believe that body is “cheaper” than my 1DXIII...

[@TECH360TV]

Haha yes the 1DX III is quite expensive

[@DonaldHawk]

Sold mine. Too heavy and not happy with auto-focus.

[@TECH360TV]

Understand. What did you end up getting

[@DonaldHawk]

@@TECH360TV Canon EOS R6 should arrive tomorrow. Fingers crossed I made right decision.

[@TECH360TV]

Reviewing it now. Fast, nice IQ and it just works. Good workhorse camera.

[@DonaldHawk]

@@TECH360TV Great videos. I always watch.

[@DonaldHawk]

I will say the SL2 was the most beautiful camera I have seen and a better camera than I was a photographer. My new Canon EOS R6 is better suited to me, the touch screen and auto focus is the best I have ever seen.

[@jayresh7171]

Contacted Leica because when my L-mount Sigma Art lenses are attached to my sl2, you cannot shoot faster than 3 fps when the battery is at 75% or less!! This was Leica's response... "Panasonic and Sigma lenses have different power requirements, and we are working to improve compatibility and will hopefully see improvements after the next firmware update. But right now using Panasonic or Sigma lenses the battery life and camera performance will be different than with Leica L-Mount lenses." L-mount alliance = Nonsensical BS.

[@TECH360TV]

Hmm that’s odd. I was using the 70-200 f2.8 from Panasonic and I was shooting way more than 3 frames per sec

[@Check-it-out]

How a camera FEELS is worth NOTHING to anyone looking at your photos. Nothing at all. So stop selling it like a fashion statement, Leica !

[@CO8848_2]

SL2: if you can spend the entire family income in a typical OECD country on a camera, sure. There are many a starving person whose picture was taken on a Leica.

[@TECH360TV]

Same can be said for watches too. The camera isn’t for everyone

[@rumporridge1]

@@TECH360TV as I stare at my Leica SL2 and Submariner.

[@GillesQuennevilleGQ]

Is this a trend on KZbin to speak so fast. This is not an added value to your production. Relax and breath so we can follow you.

[@TECH360TV]

You can always slow the video down in KZbin playback settings if it’s too fast. Just like any native speaker, we will have a cadence that won’t please everyone.

[@GillesQuennevilleGQ]

@@TECH360TV It’s up to you. I am just an old brodcast news producer and wish to help you. Take care.

[@TECH360TV]

Thank you for the feedback. Much appreciated

[@gam3955]

@@TECH360TVand if you speak in a normal way, stressed people can accelerate the video too, ✌️ 😅

[@gam3955]

Totally agree 😢

[@GKhanKutar]

No thank you. I can buy GFX100 with 45mm F2.8 instead of SL2 with 35mm F2 SL lens.

[@TECH360TV]

Understand. Different system but yes the pricing of the leica is at a premium

[@binaryblog]

Contrast AF in a camera for over 5k €. This is almost hilarious.

[@TECH360TV]

Understand. One of the things I hope they fix in future cameras.