Lelouch is a Genius | Code Geass Discussion

[@ProfessorViral]

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[@marluxia8832]

No, Lelouch is not a genius. Read this and you'll see why: archiveofourown.org/works/30655193/chapters/75633029.

[@isapu1948]

Are you kidding?! I love the school elements! Where else would Lelouch's entire plan be nearly spoiled by a cat? 😂😂😂😂😂 "I don't have time for this! I have a school festival and a coup d'état to run!" It's comic relief, basically

[@No-XIV-Xion]

It's all moments to breathe. To give us time to decompress and show us how...young, and human, most of our main cast is.

[@SebasTian58323]

I agree

[@KOCChristian]

School elements brings life and understanding how everyone feels, kinda like hub or lobby for all character to return and see how all actions affect everyone.

[@Majima669]

I honestly wonder what kind of show Code Geass would be if the school wasn't there. It prob would be way darker and serious

[@isapu1948]

68 likes So close

[@KameSensei]

Lelouch is amazing, I love all his plans, from the orange incident to the zero requiem

[@ProfessorViral]

Same here, most were quite perfectly dramatized and thought out

[@SebasTian58323]

I don't agree with some of the things you described as bad writing, but overall, I agree that Lelouch is a genius. I feel that the reason some, not all, think he's not is because it's hard to actually write a character smarter than you are.

[@ProfessorViral]

If I had fully scripted the video, I probably could have had better examples and specifics explain why I feel there is bad writing better. I definitely dislike how some of what I said came off just speaking from an outline

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

Its not harder to write a character smarter than you are, because you just need to put more time into thinking about their decisions than they would themselves.

[@Xeno7001]

​@@mimszanadunstedt441 yea but the whole point of lelouch genius was He could see what others fouldnt You cant make a charscter see something you dont see

[@naruto7034]

He is smart or genius but geass is broken compared to let's say death note it is also broken but u need name and face and there are couple more rules that must be met to use death note well that make a much more complicated plot but also proves that it's much more harder to use death note than use geass especially in ur day to day life

[@shazarakk]

The zero requiem was setup in season 1 episode 5) in the parallel conversation between Suzaku and Lelouch. I don't believe that he'd nearly planned it out to the extent that we see in the final episode, however, it's certainly there: In episode 5, at 17 minutes in, he says this: "It's simple, when somebody wins, the fighting will end." He proceeds to knock over the black king with the white knight; Positions that Zero already holds, and that Suzaku will hold later in the series, respectively. I believe that his initial goal with Zero was to kill the emperor, and set up a new ruler, Perhaps Euphie, perhaps another Royal, and then make Zero out to be a tyrant using Geass, sparing those he holds dear, and making Suzaku out to be the hero. I also believe that he'd place someone else in the costume, and quietly retire with Nunnally, having created a gentler world, but in all honesty, I think he'd be too proud not to take the fall himself, at the end of all things.

[@ProfessorViral]

Yeah, I realized afterwords I should have worded what I meant better. When I mentioned the Zero Requiem I specifically meant the final incarnation of it, where he has Suzaku kill him, after he's become the symbol of oppression and evil. I see now how I said it here could insuitate any part of the plan, which is my mistake

[@MothFable]

My interpretation of the plan was always that he wanted to remove Britannia then create an antagonist to unite everyone against, and then have zero deal the killing blow to the tyrant, thus restoring the people’s faith in zero as a hero of the people and allowing him to leave lelouch and become something anyone could be.

[@KatoBeyond]

Good video. I do disagree about the Zero Requiem though! Zero's actions as the CEO of the Black Knights suggest that he was setting the stage for a peaceful world at the end of everything. The particular moment that comes to mind is just before the first FLEIJA massacre: the UFN abolishes the militaries of all member nations and adds their strength to the Black Knights. A version of Lelouch's Zero Requiem plan was probably always in the back of his mind, but maybe he wasn't always the martyr he had planned. Once Nunnally is dead though, Lelouch can abandon his own life without remorse.

[@ProfessorViral]

Thank you, the complement means a lot from a channel with some of the best Code Geass videos to date! The analysis of the smaller, more intricate details of chess in your The Man Behind the Mask is a kind of analysis I always struggle with, and very much respect! I fell to my lack of script in this one, I definitely agree there was some version of the Requiem in place, that adapted into the martyr version later in the series. That's entirely my bad for not explaining well enough on the spot. But, thank you for the comment, it's amazing to see a channel I've watched commenting on one of my videos : D

[@KatoBeyond]

@@ProfessorViral On the contrary, you did an excellent job with the freestyle analysis, which I always struggle with. Aside from this little misunderstanding, your argument holds up well to scrutiny.

[@ProfessorViral]

Thank you for that! I'm happy to see it didn't totally hamper the video. I appreciate the complement, and getting such a nice response in general 😁

[@tniromin244]

@@KatoBeyond hello bro, no one is perfect I believe. We all miss points which causes errors in our final deduction

[@tniromin244]

@@ProfessorViral nice editing BTW. ALSO have to add there is so much context which refers to bible and god in general. Y /I will answer that question another time if I get the chance to watch the show again

[@matattack1247]

Lelouch is a genius ngl

[@ProfessorViral]

This is correct 🤣

[@matattack1247]

@ProfessorViral literally that should have been the whole video no need to make a 30min video on why lelouch is smart, all seriousness tho nice video dude keep up the great work

[@Psychoanalyze]

I've actually analyzed every episode and interaction within code geass, and everywhere from his chess games to his plans, schemes, weaknesses and strengths, he isn't as high in intellect as people make him seem. As a ongoing clinical psychologist student with a critique in intelligence, I can say his IQ range is within 140 - 150

[@lcde195]

​@@PsychoanalyzeI mean his processing Speed and working Memory are too good to be in that range.Also his visual spatial abilities are out of this world.To me if he is in that range than a lot of the characters we rate as 180+ would be even lower than him,which could be but i would doubt it.

[@KakeKira]

@@Psychoanalyze Name me 10 other anime characters smarter than lulu

[@zeehero7280]

Lelouch was a genius, but he was also still a teenager, trying to lead a large scale rebellion, while coming to terms with the fact that his actions can have unintended consequences and hurt or even kill some people he cares about. He's not perfect, he makes mistakes, and yes he needed his Geass to win, but if he wasn't a genius he never would have managed to do so. It's not his fault the writers of code geass don't know how to play chess.

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

its not that he isnt a genius, its that he's not a well-written genius and only succeeds in his plans because of plot contrivances

[@SomeOne-hw6jw]

Ok so here's some thoughts: 1) C.C didn't have an extra Zero costume, Lelouch never took it with him. - 2)Erasing Shirley's memories was probably not the best option but there're a few things to take into consideration. First, they were not that close in reality, sure she had a crush on him but it's not like they were hanging out all the time and until she had the courage to invite him, I really doubt they had talked that much. Second, at this point in the story Lelouch is not going to school as much as before, in one of the following episodes Rivalz says "we don't see you anymore" (or something like that) and Lelouch is clearly planning on leaving when he thinks about Suzaku becoming the knight of Nunally. Third, obviously, it's much safer for her if she just forget about Lelouch and it's probably what he's thinking at that point (kind of obvious with what C.C told him earlier). - 3)(haven't watched those episodes in a while but) I'm pretty sure Lelouch did not have a lot of time to plan a battle with Xingke in China and this is very unfair tbh, there's no way Lelouch could have known all those details in such conditions. Also it's not like he knew that Xingke would be after him and using a new crazy mech. I would say the biggest plothole here is Lelouch not trying to get more infos on Xingke himself (and you could say the same about Jeremiah) but this would be crazy to think he could spend all his time looking into every enemy officers and locations before each battle... I mean this would be the job of Diethard but in this case he was busy with the rest of the coup in China so it's understandable. -- 4) "He could have crushed everyone if.." I'm not so sure about that man. you forget about V.V and his army of assassins, you forget about Charles knowing about the geass etc etc... Also, this would require Lelouch to geass everyone basically.. which is not what he wants for the world.. same reason why he doesn't want to geass Suzaku. Btw people always forget that Lelouch only knew Suzaku was in the Lancelot for just 1 episode before geassing him... As far as he was concerned Suzaku was just a mechanic working for Britannia and using his geass to make him join the BKs would make no sense and would be a very shitty move on his part. Trying to recruit Suzaku (the pilot) at least once was not bad writing and it makes sense that Lelouch would try after learning the truth about Suzaku's father. -- 5) there's bad writting tho.. the whole Marianne backstory makes 0 sense, the teleportation on the island is just lazy, Charles's plan is really not great either and yeah the first part of R2 is really stupid.

[@Rand0mPeon]

They weren’t teleported on the island, though. They were blasted in the water and drifted on a nearby island’s beach while they were unconscious.

[@mayarimarjorie5624]

Lelouch has many goals, 1) to find his mother's killer, 2) make a better world for Nunally, 3) destroy Britannia and revenge on his father. when slowly all his goals was meet with complicated answer such as his mother was alive, his parents hid so many things and really didn't care about the present world they live in, Nunally died (but soon reveal alive once it was too late since Zero requiem was activated), the black knights turn traitors, many people he cares died; he was left no other choice but to do the next best thing and that is to have peace in the world. How? make him the common enemy, unit other peoples' differences to remove the enemy. I think Lelouch goal never change just modified from 'make a better world for nunnally' to 'make a better world for everyone.' Lelouch is intelligent, but there are times when emotions gets in the way in his bloody path which makes him seem stupid, but no because he is human with emotions is what makes him sympathetic to his circumstances. Just think, if you were in his shoes would you be able to do all the intelligent plans of lelouch without feeling guilt or horrible in just killing your siblings or people.

[@code.c.]

The Zero Requiem is planned at the end of Turn 20. In retrospect, Suzaku talks about having come up with the Zero Requiem then and there with him and C.C. present as a solution that him and Lelouch could agree on. He needed Suzaku's cooperation because he needed someone who he knew had the conviction to become a true 'knight of justice' to be the sucessor to Zero. There were candidates to pass the torch on to that could have brought the world into a new age without Suzaku on his side. It's also flat-out impossible it was thought of before the Chinese Federation arc, since Lelouch asks Kallen to come back to Ashford 'with him' after they win; something he would have never said to one of his friends if he had known he was going to die one way or the other by the end of it. He also clearly didn't think of it before "Betrayal," since he would have been able to bring it up and negotiate, demonstrating that is willing to die, but pleading for them to let him live a little longer because of his conviction to his mission, or at least attempt to frame his execution in a way that could forge a public image framing the Black Knights as heros with the hope that they could defeat Schnitzel and have unified the world by destroying the symbols of hate. Turn 20 is also an obvious turning point as it marks the start of C.C.'s melancohly, where for the final 5 Turns she's clearly distraught about the idea that Lelouch is going to have to die, looking away from him at points when he makes critical moves (like becoming emporer or lying to Nunally) that bring him closer to his win condition, due to her mixed feelings about the Zero Requiem.

[@KenzoSunya]

R2 was supposed to be 75 episodes but it got cut down to 25 so they had to cut some corners

[@ProfessorViral]

WHAT? That's absolutely insane. That puts some points into a better perspective

[@mathsportsguy566]

Is there a web link to something about that?

[@Reality-Distortion]

Where have you read that?

[@m4lev0lentdem0nknightamv5]

I want more episodes 🥺

[@FortuneZer0]

2:36 Looking at you Tamaki. The uncut Code Ment didnt make you look too good.

[@ProfessorViral]

I haven't seen much of Code Ment, but I probably should. Everything I've seen has been gold so far 🤣

[@claytonolson4492]

The Zero Requiem: After being outed from the black knights when Schneizel reveals his identity and geass, Lelouch makes the decision to trap himself in C's world with his father and effectively remove them both from the world. When Suzaku and C.C. show up and he "kills god" they return to the mortal world with the Zero Requiem in motion, which is why his next entrance begins with him assuming the throne and focusing all the worlds hatred on himself. Also his first acts as emporer had to do with abolishing the nobility and suzerainship of all the areas so that they would already be independent when he does die.

[@code.c.]

Code Geass is a lot more than 'one good character'; essentially every character of at least medium relevancy has enough depth to be the the protagonist of their own series if you look hard enough. Much of it is delivered through subtle details, as Code Geass' episodes are notoriously dense and ambitious in individual scope, but if you take the time and, for instance, dedicate entire rewatches to paying attention to a specific character or two, you'll find that a very large number of them have genuinely provocative things to say about the human condition and/or the things that drive us to and through war.

[@Benjamin-ml7sv]

Your IQ is measured on how good you are in comparisons to the average, which means if people around Lelouch are stupid but he does "Smart" stuff in comparison, he is still smart.

[@ProfessorViral]

This is a fair point as well, even if everyone around him is "stupid," that doesn't change his designation being "smart"

[@coreythomas3633]

Iq is BS. It doesnt exist. If you really watch the show he a genius. It ridiculous to talk about iq.

[@m4lev0lentdem0nknightamv5]

I can say with out a Doubt there's no Anime Protagonist Who can face challenges Lelouch did on a daily basis, Not even Johan Iq is a mere factor that tells you how quickly you learn things and how much you see outside the scope of normal people but it doesn't guarantee success. High IQ has to be paired with a lot of other Traits which is necessary to succeed. Some of those traits are Mental Toughness, Stamina and Resilience . This is something everyone fails to realise while Talking about Lelouch . You may have iq 999 but still won't achieve shit in this Ever Shifting Volatile Complex World if you have nothing else to pair it with . If that wasn't the case all the 230k people in this world with Iq > 160 would be World leaders in every conceivable field . L and Light were only playing a game of getting into the other person's mind and trying to influence each other's decision making . This was done with so much Luxury of Time where each would make a move with a time gap of 6-20 weeks . The consequence of their actions were very limited - one of them will find out crucial information about the other and eliminate him although there's so much room to escape before being executed. No other threats whatsoever . Light won't be killed untill found guilty . Lelouch on the Other hand Had to face the Uncertainty of the whole World itself. Everything ranging from a whole Army ready to kill him without anything stopping them ( which is also the most capable Army with high tech weapons) to The Supernatural . While all other anime characters had luxury of time Lelouch had only seconds to tackle Superior challenges like Time Manipulation, Mind Reading, Saving his Army stuck in a foreign terrain , Confidential Information, knowing the structural integrity of a random building to pin point the exact location of pressure points , while ensuring his rebellion won't betray / collapse/ mess things up / his identity won't be leaked etc etc ... Everything in succession with no time. This is not a question about iq . That's too much information bombarded every second on your face , millions of variables, unlimited threats in all directions. He did all those stuff without losing his character . That takes some serious mental strength. The stress on his mind is insane . This is something people don't see . That's not possible for someone like L who's entire strength lies in pre acquired knowledge anything new completely overwhelms him. This can be observed with High iq people who try to learn chess , they will fail more at the start than the average person because the more the variables given the more they would want to experiment ( Experimenting is considered one of the major indicators of intelligence) . Only later their performance exponentially improves compared to regular people ie... After they are familiar with all the variables . It's easier to have an intellectual battle with an intellectual opponent vs intellectual battle with 100s of opponents with varying intelligence . Humans are not machines designed to solve problems , we are designed to get satisfaction by solving problems . We choose the problems based on their difficulty level which is challenging enough to give us satisfaction.

[@MrNone-d5s]

he is military prodigy

[@ProfessorViral]

This is a very fair way to put it

[@deegloss]

I've never heard anyone say they didn't like the school element before! Thoes are some of my favorite moments, they do so much for the characters and world building and they're really fun to watch.

[@endslayer5133]

Everyone underestimated Lelouch until he fully predicted schnizel

[@ProfessorViral]

It was quite the prediction lol

[@jayt9608]

The problem is that he does not perfectly predict Schniezel the way he did Mao. Schneizel had a couple different times to realize that he was not talking to Zero, but he made the mistake that most people do in conversation. He starts preparing his next answer before the recording is finished talking. This blinds him the fact Lelouch does not respond appropriately to various arguments. Essentially he villain monologues himself into trouble.

[@MyMediaChops]

I like the overall discussions and ideas your brought up but it would have worked better if it was more scripted because there are many aspects that you could have gotten further into. Some of your points on the bad writing weren't accurate but I see where you're coming from. For example, I didn't grasp why Lelouch retreating was bad writing. C.C. explained that they are partners in crime and will protect him until the contract is fulfilled. Also, it wasn't an extra Zero costume it was the same one. Lelouch went into battle with the armor he got earlier. I don't see any contrivance in V.V. transporting Lelouch to Kamine Island. They did this to show his ability and ability we see later on when V.V. talks to Suzaku in the Avalon or when he gets Nunnally. Immortals have supernatural powers. I will agree they don't explain the origin of the power but the act of using the abilities in it itself is not a contrivance. And these abilities are consistent in the story C.C. is shown later messing with other people's minds at the SAZ and I already mentioned how this works with V.V. You're also discussing Geass and Code abilities interchangeably even though they are different things Lelouch erasing Shirley's memory was based on intelligence and emotion. It was many things stupid was not one of them. If he had simply erased her knowledge of the past days or of him being Zero what would happen if she found about his identity? Lelouch couldn't use his Geass again to erase her memories. I have been very critical of how she's handled but to call it bad writing is a bit of a stretch. Especially since she does make a big impact on Lelouch and influences his life. The problem is she doesn't get much development beyond that. Bad writing no a waste of a character yes. I will admit making everyone play along with the game of Shirley forgetting Lelouch wasn't great, Lelouch could have handled that part better. Jeremiah getting a Geass canceller was not a contrivance, Bartley was experimenting on him for most of R1 as the Code-R project. They were trying to replicate C.C. who has shown to have similar abilities. Shirley being in the wrong place at the wrong time is bad timing, not a contrivance. Also, I am not sure if you showed the Mao, Charles, and the casino scenes as more examples of contrivance because those actually do have explanations. Not going to lie the part at 28:52 was extremely frustrating to watch. A simplistic way of looking at the show that many have incorrectly pointed out that I hope you don't have the same viewpoint in your other Code Geass videos. Other than that good video, I am disappointed by some of the ideas mentioned here but regardless I enjoy people's take on the series.

[@Reality-Distortion]

Underliked comment.

[@yusukeurameshi7744]

The Zero Requiem was planned right after Charles dies and before they leave C's world. It couldn't have possibly happened before then because when the Black Knights decide to turn on him Lelouch was ready to die right there and wanted to die and was surprised when Rolo saves him and tries to convince him to just let him die... After Rolo dies his new plan become to defeat Charles by going into C's world with him and destroying the way in so they'd be trapped there together forever... If he already planned the Zero Requiem at that point like you claim then how would he accomplish that if he's trapped in C's world? The only thing that makes sense is that they plan it after Charles dies and before leaving C's world because that was the condition for Suzaku to join them... Suzaku wants Lelouch to die for killing the only woman he ever loved and Lelouch wants to make the world better for Nunally so The Zero Requiem allowed them to combine their goals together in order for it to make sense for them to team up after everything they've been through in order to accomplish it...

[@hehecactusboy4312]

Lelouch is something far beyond intelligent: he's a theater kid!

[@ProfessorViral]

Honestly... for real

[@Zero-c5v]

the island of the gods( kamine island thing) was explained later by V.V.

[@LocalSionSimp]

If Lelouch and i played chess i would definitely lose

[@ProfessorViral]

As someone who just played chess last night, I whole-heartedly agree lol

[@TheKnightOfZ0]

Even carlesn would so

[@CoreLumpenous]

I`d add on the Battle of Narita. JLF wasn`t on the backfoot in the battle - it was one step before its annihilation. Cornelia knew how decisive the outcome of the battle could be. Encircling entire mountain with most of JLF forces in there, not counting Tohdoh and Four Holy Swords, eliminating it could bring near complete control over the Area for Britannia. Drawing this battle was not a disaster per-se for Cornelia, as she had reinforcements from Homeland and she had other units in the Area, but the losses were too high and the risk of defeat was too great for her liking. Because of how Lelouch timed the avalanche, Cornelia lost about 85% of her forces and all of her reserves aside from Lancelot and Purists. She herself was ambushed and near killed. With the resulting disappearance of JLF`s power, Lelouch got full support from Six Houses of Kyoto, later got himself the elite remnants of JLF. Not to mention, most of the Black Knights never were involved in battles of such scale and were untrained. In the result, aside from replenishable losses, they were battle-forged experienced soldiers that could engage and be victorious in less beneficial conditions. The only reasons this battle wasn`t a complete victory were: A - Cornelia survived and wasn`t captured. B - Shirley lost her father and the collateral damage overall was enormous. C - The way he forced his authority upon the Black Knights could`ve been one of those small straws on the loyalty of core members. For Cornelia herself, this battle was lost, as she really failed to achieve all objectives she set out to get and because of her losses. Remember, she cared for her soldiers, and wasn`t expecting to lose this many in mere moments.

[@betterlatethannever4529]

Lelouch is the master of adaptation

[@AldoTegan]

Make a video of what if light and Lelouch switched universe.

[@ProfessorViral]

An interesting idea. I might sometime, however I want to let this one sit a while before I address Lelouch again

[@Jimboli92]

I can't find the source, but I remember reading that Schneizel is intended to be an insert of "what if Light Yagami lived in the Geass world".

[@AldoTegan]

@@Jimboli92 interesting, would love to read the source as well

[@dakotacarpenter7702]

some of those arguments don't make sense. "he's not smart hesjust good at planning" or "he is just good at manipulating people." these are attributes of smart people.

[@erland3718]

14:00 lelouch is very good in strategy, Todo in tactics. There is a difference.

[@nepotsuki6856]

great video

[@ProfessorViral]

Thank you!

[@beastvicious8672]

Not a big fan of Code Geass but i like your video. Very balanced view!

[@ProfessorViral]

Thank you, I appreciate that!

[@ohthisguyagain5386]

"X" isn't smart, because "Y" is just stupid by comparison . This is one of the worst arguments I hear for anything, because saying this sentence contradicts yourself. By saying this, you're openly admitting "X" is smart, thus defeating the purpose of this argument. Sorry, I just hate this argument for any character in a show or a person in real life

[@ProfessorViral]

Yeah, based on defining being smart as being above average in intelligence, saying everyone else is stupid is just proving the point the argument tries to disprove. I didn't think of it that way until some other comments pointed that out, so I didn't bring it up here, but that is something else to dislike about the typical arguments against Lelouch

[@sharksam8583]

I find it very ironic and kind of funny that Lelouch ends up becoming a Messiah To the Japanese people. Because he's part of the royal family responsible for oppressing them in the first place. And yet he's treated as this Messiah to them. Well, his best friend who is literally the child of Japan's previous prime minister. Is actively demonized by his own people Literally, the only reason I can think of. For the Black Knights, refusing to listen to him. Is because lelouch Is literally outed by his siblings as being part of the royal family. Along with telling them the fact he has Mind control powers. After that point, they just stop listening to him. Even the previously he was basically there Messiah.

[@Majima669]

I think it's bc Code Geass was building up the betrayal of Lelouch, he was willing to let ohgi die and replace him, which made him look bad. He ordered his personal knights to massacre children and people, ofc he couldn't tell them about the Geass and from the pov of his personal knights it was just them massacring the innocent. The EP with Schneizel where he has good evidence for why they shouldn't trust Lelouch, and even the recording of Lelouch admitting and takin responsibility of the things he did.

[@Majima669]

And even after that when they confront Lelouch, he straight up just laughs at their faces and said that he never really cared about any of them, and he treated them as pawns

[@mathematicalmonk1427]

Would you make videos on monster by naoki urasawa

[@ProfessorViral]

I do plan to one day, I just need to get ahead a bit to account for the larger number of episodes!

[@olha2]

You're wrong, the Zero requiem was contrived after the Ragnarok connection, it is stated that the (Lelouch and Suzaku) both realized it back in C's world, how the people where yearning for it, it is then that he decides to focus the hate of the world on him, it's the reason he takes over the Britannia empire

[@EBBX.]

And nowadays,some dumb 14yo compare him to a High school student playing with his classmates

[@reaps2661]

Lelouch is one of the most intelligent theatre kids

[@catburner1896]

1:30 I liked the school episodes… the only part I thought was weak was the first half of R2 especially the Chinese Federation. CF really just Flanderized him too much

[@coriakacoron5851]

code geass excels in character portrayal which covers up its shortcomings such as plot holes and messed up story pace

[@soldier1stclass648]

Reading the title of the video confused. People don't think he is?

[@ProfessorViral]

I've seen a lot of arguments that he isn't since I've seen the anime. I find it odd too

[@SomeOne-hw6jw]

@@ProfessorViral where lol, on the mal forum? some fanboys are just angry because Lelouch is still the most favorited character.

[@debrachambers1304]

While Code Geass is very obviously inspired by Death Note, a key difference is the level of emphasis on puzzles. In Death Note, we usually know what the characters are working with, so we understand their reasoning. In Code Geass, we understand WAY less of the pieces and logistics at play, so it feels more like the writers just deciding Lelouch is a genius than him viscerally feeling like one. (In my opinion)

[@debrachambers1304]

@@ahmadmunif7479 The Death Note manga came out from 2003 to 2006.

[@debrachambers1304]

@@ahmadmunif7479 Yeah, I know.

[@debrachambers1304]

@@ahmadmunif7479 I wouldn't say "copied", I feel like that sounds like a negative connotation, but yeah. Also, are you for real? Do you think that anime can't be inspired by manga?

[@debrachambers1304]

@@ahmadmunif7479 I don't have definitive proof like a quote from the creators or anything, I'm making an inference.

[@itz_sidd_fr]

INTJ's theme song should be actually Jealous 😂

[@CoreLumpenous]

I believe that Zero`s Requiem was planned as a spur of the moment, but only after he killed Charles. Lelouch is overly emotional and has no control over it. Because of it, his entire plan after Rolo`s death was only to kill Charles before dying himself, as he thought he had lost, quite literally, everything. Suzaku did level his sword against him the moment Ragnarok failed, so probably the entire Zero Requiem was really simply an apology for Euphemia and paying the price for everything he did. Though this sounds basic, I don`t really see a way overly-emotional, uncontrolled Lelouch planned out everything, even Suzaku trying to kill Charles and afterwards willing enough to really listen. Hell, he didn`t even know whether he was able to kill Charles and whether Marianne was really alive. Most of it dawned upon him in discussion with Charles.

[@lrgambe]

Honestly, I don't believe that it's bad writing. The director, writer, and the rest of the team had to most likely make so many decisions as to what to impliedly "write" in each episode since the audience that this kind of series would capture are most likely smart and getting into details would likely make this series feel slow, dragging, or boring. Think about cramming all those details into 18-19 minutes of run time per episode and for only 25 episodes. The school/personal life aspect of Lelouch is an integral part of the story as it seeks to humanize the characters and it helps create further connection with its audience. Despite all it's attempts at intellectualization and grandeur it also highlights the human needs of that may or may not be apparent to this audience.

[@izsubs316]

People just like glazing johan

[@AhmadMunif694]

He is the best villain and Manipulator not the Smartest character

[@assasinsjeff]

Code geass, a series where 80% of the series didn't make sense but I enjoyed the heck out of it regardless

[@ProfessorViral]

Things were certainly happening. But they were good things!

[@30Salmao]

Arrogance almost always is the downfall of all talented (specialy inteligent). Because "I'm so incredible/powerful" you let things goes loose and you pay for it. No discipline, no considerations of the enemy's force and own talents: just the good old failure of the arrogant intelligence. And it's very easy to believe your will is unstoppable when most people around show no way of fighting back in any way, but then you open the door to your true nemesis, which you just happen to don't know before, he picks every single one of your flaws at once and you're done (not Lelouch, of course xD).

[@ProfessorViral]

This feels like a shot at Light 🤣 Whether intension or not, that's pretty much the best summary of his downfall

[@30Salmao]

@@ProfessorViral You are right, it is (I wasn't thinking about it until you mentioned it). The greatest of his falts is pride. Even Lelouch is got by his pride over and over, despite of that he got the last laught as we say.

[@andrewobrien8325]

11:54 I'm not a great fan of Code Geass(I like it more than I like Death note, at least Code Geass has a decent ending) but whilst I don't think Lelouch is all that smart, saying he's just good at planning is a really poor argument isn't it? If it's just planning, then he is smart....some say he first thing to go is the plan but look at battles of ancient history, some battles are won yes by luck but some of the best like the battle of Cannae are an example of....well genius! Hannibal planned his battle, knew how Romans were going to respond and completely crushed them, if that isn't smart, I don't know what is. Napoleon often planned his battles too. Also hate to say it and in defence of Code Geass(Stop me!), most people are stupid and would gladly walk into a trap if ordered to, it's easy to judge something from the outside and go "Oh god what the hell are they doing?!" but bet if most of us were piloting a nightmare in Code Geass....we'd fall for the same tricks because our awareness of our surroundings maybe not up to much. I good way to look at it is, playing a game like COD in multiplayer, I'm terrible at multiplayer because I either over think things leaving me a sitting duck or I run around like a mad rabbit and later I'm like "What the hell happened there?! I should have seen that coming?!" but I didn't. Most people are stupid(Sorry and tbf I'm stupid, I've made laughable mistakes where I'm like oh god what have I done. Also I'm Scottish, not three days ago I was watching the football and was screaming "What the hell Marshall!? Ya dumb fuck!", I'm sure Marshall would be like "Yeah it was a silly mistake and I don't know what I was thinking"). So Lelouch only needs to be the smartest guy in the room and doesn't really need to be the next Light.

[@RaulGonzalez-ip4tk]

The school stuff was fun what cha mean?

[@tniromin244]

World exist for context,

[@florkiler6242]

dude, if you find a way to make more videos (while still enjoying it) do that. I mean no one watches them anyway lol I watch them for your input more than anything else

[@ProfessorViral]

Well, if no one watches them then I can't do it forever haha. So, I do need that to change a little bit. But, I appreciate the support as usual!

[@florkiler6242]

I have to say you are an od case on KZbin In the logistics of growth and algorithm and stuff

[@anime_world6684]

Do you have a video or gonna make a video about why you think code geass is so terribly written, obviously not every has the same taste but you say repeatedly the story is just trash which honestly confuses me

[@ryanrodriguez2498]

Lelouch is smart have you seen what he’s done at end of the series, alternate universe in resurrection and his chess games

[@ProfessorViral]

Looking at almost anything he does, it's so odd to see the argument that he's not smart

[@ryanrodriguez2498]

@@ProfessorViral What about against Mao, episode 24 against Cornelia and fighting Schnizel

[@SebasTian58323]

@@ryanrodriguez2498 it's hard to outsmart someone who can read every thought you have as you're having them and he still managed to defeat Mao twice. Cornelia, he was just being arrogant, thinking she'd be as easy to beat as Clovis. Afterwards, he managed to make a plan that beat her, until Suzaku showed up in the Lancelot. Prince Schneizel is shown to be on par with Lelouch in terms of intelligence.

[@ryanrodriguez2498]

@@SebasTian58323 exactly yet Schnizel with the UFN and black knights including Xing Ke that can compete with Lelouch including he controls the FLEIJA rival if possible surpass Lelouch in intelligence and Lelouch with Britannia army Orange boy and Suzaku and Lelouch outsmarted them and took over them and he became emperor of the world

[@grizzledwarveteran2321]

diff sys bro thus he smart

[@facilde1]

Honestly i disagree with the school seeting not working, while the story does take ot self prettty seriously with the political and strategy elements, Code geass at its core its very very silly Its a story where England just went to conquer 3/4 of the world with Mechas and a teenager adquire the power of god to tumble said empire, its get very wackynat timesnand very serious Hell the fact that the last school festival is rigth before the Euphemia moment its pretty much a prove of that

[@WhoVicto]

my friend said that luffy as a charater is far beyond and better than him is it true?

[@ProfessorViral]

I'm not sure, I haven't seen One Piece myself, and I'd need about 5 years to figure it out 🤣

[@llawliet9443]

Light > Lelouch

[@mihaistoian_]

😀

[@rawdasalmataman7908]

Lelouch is as badly written as the anime His abilities just work because the other characters are dump. He has so much plot armour He is underdeveloped Cc is the best written character in code geass. So yeah code geass is badly written lelouch is just as bad and cc is the one who is actually holding the anime writing wise.

[@rawdasalmataman7908]

@@nothatswrong5961 What part do you want me to elaborate? That code geass is badly written and inconsistent The side characters are bland and don't have any depth Lelouch is a badly written character and most of his plans are predictions that are controlled by the writer.

[@rawdasalmataman7908]

@@yesthatsright. What examples are you talking about

[@adityannair8951]

​@@rawdasalmataman7908bruh u must be a 3 year old kid

[@rawdasalmataman7908]

@@adityannair8951 and you are acting like a baby And if this is the best comment you could come up with then you must very uncreative

[@mohammednihaal5943]

I don't think any of plot contrivance are not plot contrivance

[@majesticthesire]

nonsense