#lemonsworld

[@fl1ppy810]

Quite surprised the Merkur Scorpio has never been raced in lemons. The british version (the ford Granada mk3) used to be quite popular for banger racing. With some of the weight gutted out they were strong, quite quick, and handled pretty well. And with them using the same 2.9l colongne v6 as the ranger, there's plenty of drivetrain parts for them.

[@mzaite]

I’ve seen one. Once. And it was a drive it into the ground owner who had it. If he still isn’t dragging the thing to campus daily, it almost certainly has returned to the earth by now.

[@phunkybuddhamike]

I drove an 84 Celebrity wagon in high school with the 2.8L V6. It sounded great going nowhere fast with a Dynomax Super Turbo muffler and a 3 inch pipe out the back! I'd love to find my old wagon and bring it to a Lemons race...

[@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus]

The Mopar M body was not based on the B body cars, but rather the F body 1976 Volare/Aspen. A front suspension with transverse torsion bars was the main difference, the rest being a similar leaf spring rear setup. You can see the Volare in the doors, roof line, and most glass, and the chassis is nearly identical. The bigger R body you referenced was indeed based on the B body, a rush job when a large car was needed for a short time, but it has nothing to do with the M or F body.

[@jessebrook1688]

Huh. I've never seen an R-body. Seeing that they were made for just 3 model years, I guess that explains it. I'm really surprised that nobody's raced one in LeMons. Or a Fifth Avenue/Diplomat/Caravelle M-body. Everybody remembers that Chrysler rebadged the heck out of the K-car, but they don't remember the Mirada/Cordoba/LeBaron/Diplomat/Caravelle/Fifth Avenue/Imperial/Aspen/Volaré M-body cars. The next generations of most of those names were K-cars, so that's probably why, but looking at Chrysler's 1982 lineup really shows how strapped for cash they were.

[@bigern15022]

I'm actually going to be putting together a 1983 Cordoba for lemons. Last year of those boats and holds styling from a mack truck . See you guys at pittrace in April

[@PapiDoesIt]

The Ford Maverick was a way to clean out the warehouses of leftover Fairlane, early Mustang, Falcon, Pinto, and Comet parts.

[@markalbert9011]

DO NOT denigrate the Iron Duke. My father bought a 1967 4 door Nova with an Iron Duke and powerglide in 1973 and sent me off to college in it. After graduation I cheerfully gave it back after trying out my credit score at the local Chevy dealer. The Nova was parked and forgotten. In 1998 it was my sons turn to go off to school and yes I revived the Nova. It had patina before any of us knew what patina was. My son VERY grudgingly went off to college, where he watched from his dorm window as thieves drove off in the night with the alarm blaring....he was not upset, I'll admit to a bit of nostalgia and loss. HOWEVER, the flip side is that 25+ years later my son and I still like to have imaginary conversations between the two thieves as they hurried away from the scene of the crime in a 3200 lbs car with perhaps as much as 40 horsepower, a power glide and 4 doors.

[@christopherbrown6697]

I dailied a 2.8 MPFI '85 Celebrity sedan in New England for years. Excellent winter car, practically unstoppable with good snow tires. Did a lot of ski/snowboard trips in that thing. The power door locks were wonky, so I left it unlocked everywhere, including NYC. The only thing worth stealing was the battery, which was under a brace, so I figured anyone who went through the trouble kinda earned it. Nobody did. Sometimes people left pamphlets and stickers on the dashboard. I gave it away, still running well, when it was 20 years old.

[@Thinginator]

I’ve had an idea in the back of my mind for some time if I ever found a VW Dasher for Lemons money, to call it the Rainbow Dasher and give it a My Little Pony theme. I’ve seen the four-door versions go for close to Lemons money, but they’re very rare nowadays so it doesn’t happen often.

[@TheAtb85]

"Slap pretty much any VW engine in it". Can't wait to see some mad lad show up with a V12 Phaeton powered Dasher. :D

[@jimbauman9646]

The Chrysler Fifth Avenue has the advantage of the built in Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul theme, too. Surely someone can come up with a good Mike Ehrmantraut costume and bring a brown '88 Fifth Avenue with wire hubcaps, yes?

[@claudgurr431]

I run a 1984 Fifth Avenue in the UK. It gets lots of love at car shows, and plenty of comments from non gearhead people too. So glad it got sent across the pond instead of rusting in peace in an American junkyard.

[@pmkstudios]

fishtailing pontiac 6000 down snow covered hills with quick locking rear brakes was as close as we got to the dukes of hazzard shenanigans in the early FWD era

[@timothyshearer6538]

The vega crushing bit at the end is a chefs kiss on this 'smoregasbored of 70s crapcans

[@mzaite]

You guys get that these are 40-50 year old cars now right? Made out of pre-rusted rust? This is like being in the mid 90’s and trying to score a cheap 57 Bel-aire. And that was still back before old car as a money laundering device was a thing. I know the “brand” built by Jay and Phill is malaise era, but a 2003 model year is a TWENTY year old car now.

[@_Peremalfait]

Haven't seen a Chevy Aveo yet. As a former owner these were great little cars, really quick and fun to drive. Love to see one on the track. Love to see a Nissan Maxima out there as well.

[@sofielee4122]

i gotta be honest, I don't hate the two door maverick. its got that whole "generic muscle car" look going on like the RA21 Celica

[@eljodha7022]

Please make more videos like this one. Always wonder what cars are yet to show up in a lemons race. How about a DeSoto?

[@jamesstaggs4160]

Hey if it's good enough for Ricardo, it's good enough for me.

[@claytonstevens3613]

It is absolutely astounding that nobody has brought a Celebrity to a Lemons race. Seems like such an obvious choice

[@mzaite]

You just find a celebrity with enough metal left to weld a cage and seat to.

[@OldManBadly]

The 5th Aves are rare on the ground for a pretty simple reason, actually: They were pretty good demo derby cars - provided they weren't rusted to crap. They were one of the last full frame cars of any sort out there, and they have been eaten up at fairgrounds and special events for years now. The 318 had no discernable power but could run for a long time without any cooling. Use to rent these out when I works in the car whoring business many, many years ago. They were popular and horrible all at once.

[@Norseman195]

Somebody needs to import a Kalmar KVD 440 to race in Lemons. What can go wrong with an old swedish postal van, powered by a aircooled boxer engine and DAFs famous Variomatic gearbox😄

[@jimbro5223]

The Maverick was also born in the era of no rust proofing so they all rusted away. I have only seen one at Ford car shows. I would buy one if I could find one but no luck.

[@davidconner-shover51]

The Ford Scorpio, I remember these when I was stationed in Germany back in the early '90s. Nice vehicle for the Autobahn, not the greatest, but it could keep up. I didn't know any of these made it to the US

[@corvairjim1]

Did anybody else notice that the example they showed of a Chrysler B-body was an Olds 88 convertible, which is a GM B-body?

[@bobmcl2406]

Glad you said it, cuz I was pretty sure but.....

[@jaylamm8698]

Yes, but by then it was already late at night, and we’re, like…screw it. Refunds for everyone!

[@drewdane40]

How has the Lemons community passed up on the opportunity to run a Chrysler Fifth Avenue with a hella sweet Mike Ehrmantraut from Breaking Bad theme?

[@1964corvan]

soooooo you're using my footage at the end without my permission..... i mean i dont care in this case but a ''hey how goes it and may we'' goes a long way...... :P

[@QuanticChaos1000]

Just outright stealing from their subscribers!

[@OzwalR]

Mavericks have a big enthusiast community down in Mexico, I'm surprised it's so forgotten north of Tijuana.

[@HoonaticRacing]

My car in high school was a 74 4-door Maverick with a 250 & C4. It sucked but was a step up from the 85 Eldorado that blew up after 500 miles of ownership.

[@dipren443]

My parents had an 87 Celebrity coupe with I believe the 2.8, but it might have been the iron Duke. I was quite young when we had it so I never got to drive it, but I recall it being a complete slug.

[@QuanticChaos1000]

1:44 Merkur isn't pronounced "Mayr core", it's "merr curr". Also is that car crusher footage at the end stolen?

[@keepkalm]

No one raced a maverick in Lemons? I am shocked.

[@GunFunZS]

The thing is that the celebrity is the antithesis of fun to drive. You can make lemons about quirky antics all you want, but as an organization you eventually will have to recognize that the racing itself should be fun. Your marketing makes it clear that you go for mechanical hassles, and once your team has put in half a decade, then the judges ignore the rules enough for them to put together a car that will last through a whole race. It makes starting a team sound unappealing to me now.

[@mdean119]

I'm working on a 2004 Chevrolet Tracker that I got for $300. Blown motor so I am swaping in a 305 from an 85 Camaro!

[@paddyoshamrock]

'79 AMC Concord? I've seen an Eagle but not its daddy in Lemons

[@mikes717]

I know somebody that still dailies his Celebrity. Don't ask me why, it doesn't make sense to me either. Especially weird when he has a 1st gen Manual CTS-V, a second gen CTS-4, and a 1998 Z/28 Camaro.

[@johnhamilton68]

Have you looked at Pinto, Vega and Maverick prices lately? These are now collectible and getting pricier by the day.

[@AKiDNAMEDLAX]

The only Vega I ever see is ditched in the woods and a feature in a mountain bike trail... so yeah, I guess rare = $$$ to somebody

[@abestoolbox]

I owned one of those in Germany in the late 80's. It was called the Fox there though.

[@e28forever30]

2:32 “BMW 5-series” goes on and shows an E32 7 series.

[@Truckngirl]

So many 1980s Honolulu taxi cabs in there...

[@bobmcl2406]

I can't believe you haven't had a Maverick! Heck, it's literally a Mustang in sheep's clothing. Tons of go-fast parts available for next to nothing. And who wouldn't want a 302 with inadequate brakes?

[@nickrustyson8124]

Though I can see the 2020s Ford Maverick in LeMons in probably about a decade

[@colpuck9261]

I totally drove a fifth avenue in high school it was awesome.

[@darwinmichel2087]

Back off the Ford Maverick it's Hans dream build. It was even in fast & furious.

[@danielhildebrand5717]

Has their been a sunbeam alpine?

[@MobileHomeUploads]

Buick Apollo

[@rodati5615]

I found a 1961 cadillac fleetwood brougham series 75 that i wanted to turn into a lemon racecar...saldy the car is so rotten we cant weld anything onto it because it just crumpeld. And then it literraly broke in half when i wanted to lift it.

[@mseelhorst]

OMG. My ex had a diesel Dasher. In retrospect, it was a bad sign.

[@ii7317]

No Cordoba? What a shame!

[@mzaite]

No late cordoba. There has been early ones.

[@Francois_L_7933]

I don't know if there's ever been a Saab 900 Turbo in Lemons?

[@jaylamm8698]

We actually used to have a bunch, early on, but pretty much like all other Saab 900s, they eventually all went to Valhalla

[@rubencruz2486]

Any Dashers still around are likely owned by VW enthusiast like myself that would likely not be racing them. I too would like to have one and would not want to race it so.....

[@mosconisadepto6172]

old fiat panda anyone?

[@nobodynoone2500]

I owned a 4dr maverick in my 20's. Loved that car. Was a drift missle with an I6, rwd, and tiny tires. The interior was pristine, but ugly. Simple and easy to work on. The 2dr ones are hard to find for lemons money.

[@ghomerhust]

a couple of guys i went to school with in the 90s (twin brothers) had a green sedan, 302 manual, it was a sleeper from hell!

[@cfc1001001cfc]

Ah yes, the EuroSport. It wasn't European, and it wasn't Sporty. Thanks, GM.

[@julianizydorczak5258]

Euro Scorpio v6 2.9 is a good and fan car

[@amelierenoncule]

Why you ask, mes amis, you have not seen any...because even the most casual of teams have a modicum of respectability and desire to do well. Also, MOST importantly, they do not want their many 'beer breaks' be to continuously interrupted.

[@nobodynoone2500]

Yeah, most people want weird and obscure, not boring and forgotten.

[@mzaite]

Also they wan’t to spend at best A month looking for a car, and they want it to not be an uphill battle just to get the $4,000 worth of safety gear installed. Time is money, as is replacement sheet metal.

[@shept.7736]

I’ve found a few dashers, they’re surprisingly not cheap. The owners either kept them in immaculate shape or “know what they have”

[@mzaite]

That’s because they’re 40+ years old. Nobody who didn’t care kept a lump like that long enough to make it to 2023.

[@ghomerhust]

if someone does score one of those with the CIS bosch injection, they need to get a hold of me, ive kept gobs of those on the road for other people for 20 years

[@jessebrook1688]

1974-80 was indeed a long time ago in car years.