Lennox Lewis and Oleksandr Usyk - 2 Undisputed Heavyweight Reigns Ended by Alphabet Politics

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Lewis TKO6.

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The lineal champion is the most important, because there is no belt for it. _Everybody knows_ who the real champ is, and it's Usyk.

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true, for me the only time undisputed is more important than lineal is when there isn't a TRUE champion in a division and everybody's fighting to be the last man standing.

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@@grammarz5094 Yup, the whole reason for there being a _champion,_ the whole reason for the sport! _Who's the one guy nobody can beat?_ The King... And who will dethrone him..

[@jean-francoisduval1907]

Funny you say that, not a long time ago people were mocking Tyson Fury for that title.

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There are plenty of times that falls apart in most divisions. For example, Lennox isn't the TRUE champ until he beats Shannon Briggs!

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[@Tetlee]

Nobody gonna see either Dubois or Joshua as a true heavyweight champ as long as Usyk is still around and undefeated. Usyk is the one and only heavyweight champion until somebody beats him in the ring for me and I should think most people

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[@S-fp7uz]

Ruiz vs Holyfield is still one of the weirdest title-fights ever. I think there should be some rule that nobody that lost to the undisputed champion should be eligible to fight for one of his belts. Otherwise what even is the point of taking on title-challengers. AJ and Dubois fight each other, but they have both been proven to be unworthy of Usyks belt when they failed to take it from him.

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Rummy has the perfect voice, vocabulary, and disposition to express our collective frustration with the alphabet bodies and boxing politics. 😅

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Thank you very much for the kind words. Cheers!

[@BentArrowni]

I think that the IBF shouldn't have made Dubois champion, the belt should've been up for grabs for the winner of AJ/Dubois. The belts should be lost and won inside the ring, they shouldn't pick and choose how often mandatories are enforced but at least we all know who the true champion is

[@michaelbloomfield9911]

Dubois fought Hrgovic for the title

[@EdwardHinton-qs4ry]

The alphabets are obsolete, they are diluting the sport, disband them. 68 world champions!?, not to mention all the other made up titles, it's a joke.Any true boxing fan wants to see no.1 vs no.2 and so on, the belts just stop this from happening.

[@oakland2425]

One thing I don't understand is why do these high level guys seem to always take such a long break for a rematch? Can't they do it in August? You're fighting the same opponent so there's not much extra preparation. Isn't it better to do it as soon as possible so both are still in great shape and the hype is more fresh?

[@muratsahan3144]

good question but many things factor into that, promotors, undercard fights, the venue, etc and not to forget it was a gruesome match and they need to rest.

[@utkarsh2746]

Media tour, venue, lawyer negotiating terms, fans needing to book hotels and flights. It is mainly the business side.

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They need to recover from damage at least could of mouths

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[@Verminator4]

IBF enforce their mandatories ruthlessly but the mandatory challengers are too frequently not worthy. The WBC has worthy challengers but lets them rot in limbo sometimes for years at a time. I don’t know which is worse. The other two have their fair share of BS as well.

[@semyaza555]

Obviously the WBC is worse. I’d rather rules be enforced ruthlessly, than selectively because a guy pays a lot in sanctioning fees.

[@Ehrle6969]

Wbc is Controlled by arab dollar, ibf isnt😂

[@jimmeyer9417]

The alphabet thing is getting a bit old, we finally get the first ever WBC, IBF, WBA, WBO unified heavyweight champion and he’s immediately stripped, and the IBF awarded to man he beat…it disgusts me

[@JeremyEssen]

Way to unironically embarrass themselves.

[@kevindavidge]

Great video. I ain't exactly Quasimodo over here in South Wales, UK but it's not difficult to predict that boxing politics will let the fans down. AJ v Dubois should be fighting for the no.1 contender position for the Undisputed championship

[@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl]

Quasimodo? What on God's Green Earth has The Hunchback of Notre Dame got to do with any of this? Or are you possibly getting mixed up with Nostradamus?

[@drifty_grifty]

No they should be way down the list fighting some of the other top guys. Zhang and Parker have both more than earned their shots.

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[@WarioSaysSo]

What stings the most with that IBF mandatory demand is that beside the long mandatory lack of 4 years, is that they activates it so close after the unification we ALL had waited for to happen for over 2 decades, is that the belt is up for grabs between 2 men who Oleksandr Usyk had effectively defeated and left no doubts. It become like a 2nd level world title, where it is only a recognition on the paper but not on solid earned merits to claim such recognition. Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois is NO DOUBTs a great match-up, it is but not worthy to have one of Usyk's pieces of his unified & undisputed crown. John Ruiz back in 2000 was at the time not a big markteble champion and even if he proved in the long run being a better HW then Michael Grant, there NEVER existed any thoughts or questions of him having any chanse of defeating Lennox Lewis, that is why there never was any demand for a fight between them. Same was for Chris Byrd, and Byrd was a more skilled boxer but also placed in the 2nd tier of HW calibre, and the reason Lewis agreed to leave the IBF title in late 2002 because there was never a demand for seeing that fight. Lewis wanted only a rematch with Mike Tyson, or a fight with Wladimir Klitschko, and Tyson declined a rematch and when Klitschko lost to Sanders, that was forever lost so Lewis gradually fast lost hunger for keep fighting - there was no demand....until the late staged Vitali Klitschko fight came around after Kirk Johnson went out, and an out of shape & old Lewis still hammered a prime Klitschko. But Lewis was no longer hungry to fight any longer. Big Money was not alone a valid motivation.

[@rmalmeida1976]

Sanctioning bodies are a joke with their numerous belts for each weight class, stupid arbitrary rules, and basically doing nothing while still getting a cut from every fight that features "their" belt.

[@Joseph-vp1sn]

That is why the Ring's Magazine championship title is the only championship that matters.

[@xavierjuno4572]

That and the lineal championship

[@shambleslongplay3566]

ibf were always gonna strip usyk, we knew this as it was their turn for the mandatory.. What i dont understand is why it isnt a vacant title. Frank warren has been pulling strings for a long time to get dubois a shot at the title, but some one must owe him a huge favour to just hand it to dubois. Hell i dont even understand how he was able to fight hurgovich before this.. either way i cant see any possible way dubois beats joshua in that fight, if slow as dirt joe joyce can land jabs on dubuois all night, joshua can land the whole kitchen sink.. im thinking round 6 stoppage win for joshua, If joshua takes his time.

[@Handle35667]

Ticket sales are higher if the title isn’t vacant probably. Or the commission is just paid for the title. In any case it’s all nonsense

[@robinsteiner1316]

Actually the IBF just did what is written in their statute, Dubois held the interim title, the champion vacated his title so the interim becomes the official champion. However, I do think that an additional fight to determine who gets the title would make much more sense. Also this is quite painful for Hrgovic who held the interim title much longer, never got a shot for the real title and now is left empty handed.

[@shannonadkinsmusic5767]

First of all, this is the best boxing channel by far. Secondly, the IBF stripping Usyk is an example of everything wrong with the governing bodies in boxing. They continue to ruin the sport with their confusing politics. As you rationally stated, the fact that it's been 4 years since they've forced a manditory is a real head scratcher. It really only leaves you with one conclusion, these governing bodies don't want an undisputed champ. It seems, for some reason, that's not in their best interest.

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[@jean-francoisduval1907]

Usyk is now in the same league than Lewis and Holyfield combined + he's undefeated, and it's not even finished...Some people are trying too hard to dimished his legacy for whatever reasons.

[@KuS-ab]

These people don't take progress for granted! In the 90s there were not many boxers for whom this was their only job! For example, Nikolai Valuev - did not go to school, worked as a security guard - was taken into boxing for his great height. Now he is a senator and is considered one of the smartest in Russia. Wilder is a classic example of a 90s boxer. A failed basketball player, a football player, and who knows who... Just a big black guy. What could be better?) But this is a champion! 2nd Mike Tyson!

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[@dsm5d723]

Didn't the IBF do the same thing to Bud, after letting Spence ignore mandatories for years?

[@RummysCorner]

Yes. Spence made 1 IBF mandatory in 6 years, and by the time he faced Bud it was about 5 years since he made that mandatory. Bud was stripped after a little more than 4 months.

[@Dracbrewer]

Perfect Video Rummy! I don't need to repeat exactly everything you stated, It was Perfect. I feel AJ has more in the tank and can box better than Dubois and will win. Usyk certainly deserves more respect.

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Dream Match: Joe Frazier vs Floyd Patterson Dream Match: Roy Jones Jr. vs Dariusz Michalczewski Dream Match: Joe Frazier vs Ken Norton

[@Myndir]

Frazier TKO5. Patterson is faster and very skilled, but his chin is too weak. RJJ UD12. Michalczewski is unfairly overlooked today, but prime RJJ was ABSURD. Frazier KO14. Norton challenges Frazier a lot (Frazier didn't have mega power like Foreman or Cooney) but Frazier has the edge in stamina and would break Norton down in the end.

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[@pierresland]

The commissions are a joke

[@BiggieBigLnPac]

no-ones unbeatable, but Lennox Lewis on his best day.. that's a tough man to beat.

[@jean-francoisduval1907]

He still got beat twice...Usyk is the man now since he's still undefeated.

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I wonder if mandatory challengers are picked tactically, to splinter the belts? Maybe there's a commercial reason for this?

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Great video coverage Rummy 💯 smh... let it be decided in the ring

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Rummy please don't pick AJ to win

[@lewishowel1902]

I still think Lennox could return and reclaim everything...... But yeah, the IBF could have made AJ v Dubious for no1 challenger, and then after the 2nd Osyk v Fury, make them mandatory.

[@morphineAlex]

Good video. Whoever won should be humble and respectful to usyk

[@hotrodd29]

You mention. Hasim Rahman who was and still is the only lineal American Heavyweight champion this century. Strange when you consider American heavyweight’s dominance in the last century.

[@S-fp7uz]

I mean during the Cold War half the world was not competing and prior to the WBO all alphabet bodies were exclusively US-centered. Pre-WW2 travel and communication was more difficult and there was a clear pro-US bias like when Max Shmelling was robbed in the fight against Sharkey and did not ever get another titleshiot again even after beating Joe Louis.

[@hotrodd29]

@@S-fp7uz that’s a very good point as well.

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[@MasterJammer]

It’s quite simple, Undisputed means you hold 4 belts. Part of the responsibility of being undisputed champion is fighting the #1 contender of the 4 sanctioning bodies. If you don’t, you lose the belt and are no longer undisputed. No doubt Usyk can deal with Dubois again. But - he’s chose a huge payday fighting Fury rather than defending his status as undisputed 🤷‍♂️

[@Ehrle6969]

Fury had the rematch clause since he took the belt from wilder. Usyk couldnt even chose to fught dubois instead otherwise he would lose all belts to fury😂

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[@josephbacon7493]

The IBF belt… Whatever happened there.

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7:40 Nostradamus and Notre Dame, it's two different things completely...

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is DZN relatively new? 😂

[@mrmoon1482]

Even if a belt is taken, they are still undisputed until defeated

[@TraitorVek]

Nice

[@Icarus6783]

Seems to me that they dont want the idea of an undisputed belt changing hands.

[@SansAppellation]

5:00 they had to draw a line somewhere. Usyk has held the belt since 2021. They gave him leeway to voluntarily sign a rematch clause with Joshua. They gave him leeway on the Fury postponements. You want them to give him even more leeway so he can fight yet another rematch that he voluntarily signed up for? lol heres a novel idea. Fight your mandatories... The biggest similarity to the Lewis situation, is both Lewis and Usyk would rather make hay ($$$) while the sun shines than fight their mandatories

[@Matt-jc2ml]

Unification trumps mandatories, especially if it's for undisputed

[@MaccaveliPL]

You mean fighting better fighters than mandatories for more money?

[@drifty_grifty]

His mandatories are two guys he already beat three times? There is no urgency to fight either of them.

[@verrufen2642]

Not like Usyk was asking for Fury to duck him for 2 years

[@SansAppellation]

​@@Matt-jc2ml nice sound bite, but it's nonsense: 2014 WBC stop Stiverne fighting Klitschko for undisputed, forcing him to fight Wilder as a mandatory 2018 WBA calls time on Joshua v Wilder negotiations, and Joshua is forced to fight Povetkin So no, unifications don't trump mandatories. As I said the IBF gave Usyk a lot of leeway

[@mider-spanman5577]

Boxing organizations are shooting the sport in the foot by doing bull crap like this! I've never understood why they strip people of their belts as if they could face everyone at the same time.... Plus the fact that Usyk 's extension request was denied. What's the goal!? They just handed the title away to Dubois just like they did with Crawford after he became undisputed; handing his title to Boots Ennis.

[@BigBoss69420]

Belts should always be won in the ring. I love boxing and it's obnoxious trying to enjoy it. Stripping the belt right before the AJ fight for a guy USYK ALSO DEFEATED is corruption at its finest.

[@yeeuoi7333]

Lets go 🔥🔥

[@bigmoney749]

I highly recommend NOT signing up for DAZN unless you plan to keep the subscription until the end of time. They make it basically impossible to cancel and have no qualms with violating their own terms of service toward that end.

[@MrMerseyblue]

In my humble opinion, if you achieve the status of undisputed, you then earn the right to decide who your next fight is, the different belts get together and agree to give him or her that right they've earned it. As long as the fighters chosen opponent is within a 12 month period. Otherwise you have to relinquish whatever belt says so. In an ideal world there should inly be the WBC. One belt, one champion in each division.

[@Rumble225-qe7fy]

It is an absolute headache to keep all those belts. Lot of them have worthless challengers as number 1 contenders.

[@zeno4651]

Usik the giant slayer. The heavyweights nowadays are way too big. I think any of the top 10 90s heavyweights would wipe the the floor with the devision today

[@jean-francoisduval1907]

Since when being big and tall is a disadvantage in HW ? Lennox was most of the time the biggest in the ring in his time. I'm pretty sure he would struggle with the giants of modern time. Usyk size doesn't give him an edge...he's just that good.

[@KuS-ab]

@@jean-francoisduval1907 He doesn't understand what he's saying! Weight, height, youth - these are all advantages! What did we know about the great boxers of the 90s? How did they work out in the gym? How did you eat? Maybe someone saw them sparring? The great boxers of the 90s beat up no less great taxi drivers and in large numbers! Usyk does not have a single random name among his opponents. Every single one of them are boxers and this is their only job!

[@zeno4651]

@@jean-francoisduval1907 boxing skills are more important. You can get too big for a heavyweight I’m look at all those huge slow boulders

[@ba2724]

Usyk is an Ultra Brit slayer. Just realized that. Bellew, Chisora, AJ, Dubois, and lastly Fury. At some point soon, the UK needs to offer citizenship to him in order to save face. Big love to the UK, though.

[@Myndir]

He's just been in an era with several good and several great UK boxers... And been better than all of them, the mad lad.

[@emsauce75]

I'll watch the highlights for AJ v Dubious. But to pay to watch a paper championship is gross.

[@josearmandogomezrocabado537]

Well at least we got AJ vs Bubois for a chance at redemption 👀👀

[@PPX14]

Forget the titles and the "undisputed" fabrications. It's not a league or a tournament, so they're just a series of 1v1 fights, and we can judge competitors on their records :)

[@Deano_77]

Too many belts and its all about money. Having too many belts just dilutes the value of being a world champion.

[@PrasangaBandara-g9s]

Boxing politics reminds me of something Khabib said. "This is number one BULLSHIT"

[@marlonious7650]

How do you feel, Usyk. I feel. My favorite Ukrainian fighter to date. #1

[@CesarGarcia-ru8hr]

Relatively new

[@christophercroxson9724]

Usyk unbeatable in this era. He's just too skilful. He measures his distance so well, and he so accurate with his punches. Best heavyweight of this era.

[@tokyopinokyo]

inner Notredamus ))))

[@ianbrett3276]

Dubois vs Joshua for the paper champion belt. I think a fight between these two will be a great fight that doesn't need a bogus belt to sell it.

[@Polarbear17_]

They want a heavyweight champion being crowned for more ticket sales

[@ianbrett3276]

@@Polarbear17_ I get that mate but I would pay to watch this one if they were fighting for the vacant southern-area title its going to be such a great fight.

[@raulcitraro]

They created 17 categories per boxing-sanctioning body, and if you multiply that by five - (WBA, WBC, WBF, WBO, and the IBF), we end up having 85 Champions. They have created a system similar to a junk fast-food business; the more crap they sell, the more they earn...

[@capitalcitygoofball1987]

John Ruiz should have fought Shannon Briggs for the undisputed Tomato Can belt. Hell no he wasn't worthy of sharing the ring with Lewis.

[@thedreamsoldierful]

At this point i dont think its important. Or should be a big goal for usyk. Hes obviously undisputed. We can move past it imo. That many titles becomes too political

[@justinboon3811]

Lennox could have boxed with the elite stars from any era

[@jamez6154]

There isn’t a single boxing fan that didn’t want a undisputed heavyweight champion! In fact ultimately that’s what every weight class should be striving for. What other major global sport doesn’t do this. Except boxing! We deserve better than these gambling mobsters that misuse their authority! It really is wrecking the sport we all love so they can make a Buck. It’s not fair to the great champions of history to be subject to such nonsense. However, if they’d agree to set some kind of standard for scoring a fight and a ranking system for judges, so we don’t keep getting these clowns, that would be a more desired start. I have screaming nightmares that Adelaide Byrd is coming to judge every championship fight! 😩

[@abigmonster8457]

woohoo Im first. Im on stalker timing.

[@ruiner101]

Oh! Take it easy!

[@melvert33]

No decent boxing fan has ever had any respect for the world boxing organisations.

[@gyata7270]

For me IBF Organization lost a lot of credibility a long time ago for these type of antics. I reckon Usyk wins the rematch vs Fury, but I think either of those 2 fighters can win vs AJ or Dubois

[@TheMaxbrooks]

Usyk, the best, whoever is IBF are second best, I guess, or third. They made themselves a second class belt. If Fury fights AJ/DD next year he can find out if he's 2nd or 3rd. But its just pedantry, all that really matters is that Usyk is number one.

[@slidecounter5813]

I thought Lewis got stripped of the IBF because he didn't want to face Chris Byrd who was his #1 contender after beating David Tua for IBF eliminator. Lewis had only fought 1 southpaw his whole career

[@Smokinjoewhite]

If Dubois leads with his face like he always does, this will not go past 5.

[@DonMIFC]

I think AJ beats Dubois Fury beats Usyk in the rematch Then Fury ducks the trilogy with Usyk to set up Fury vs AJ for the undipsuted title in England, and the biggest fight since Manny v Mayweather The powers that be are willing it this way

[@jean-francoisduval1907]

i predict quite the opposite, I think AJ has slipped but looked tough against an MMA guy, and now people think it's the AJ from 5 years ago. I see the upset from Dubious. and i don't see Fury winning the rematch, i even see the fight getting postponed again for whatever reasons Fury will find, and the rematch clause will disolve with the dead line.

[@bugde4671]

It looks like the undisputed champion can ignore the IBF.

[@somerandomguy2447]

It doesn’t matter anymore what the alphabet crew says Usyk is the real champ I mean they’re literally making dobois fight aj while usyk brutally dominated dobois in a massive one sided fight and Usyk beat aj twice

[@DC-ec6yk]

💪👍That's my opinion, if Lennox would really put the pedal to the metal for a year of training for a fight with Usyk, I am 100% sure that Lennox would beat Usyk! And not on points, but by a KO

[@MichaelLaing71]

A fighter's legacy isn't really the belts; it is who they were as fighters, who they fought, and the battles they had. In 20 years, Uysk will be seen as a great fighter. He will be remembered for fighting and beating the best in the division. Yes, becoming the undisputed heavyweight champion is an achievement, but beyond that, it doesn't really matter if one of the titles is taken away. No one thinks less of Lewis for having a title taken away, they just remember him as a great fighter who was one time undisputed.

[@mactheknife7049]

Let's see. In no particular order... (1) Usyk took the high road and made the IBF look foolish at the same time, which fans are likely always in favor of. (2) Dubois is now the living Ken Norton. Not in that he's a hall of famer, but in that he's going to be a guy who was awarded the status of a "World Heavyweight Champion" and is then going to proceed to lose it in their first attempt to defend it. (3) If Fury beats Usyk in a rematch and Joshua beats Dubois as expected? There's a 2025 re-unification fight at Wembley that makes everyone a metric ****ton of money. (4) If Usyk beats Fury again or Dubois somehow beats Joshua? The IBF title resembles the WBA belt during the early 1980's for at least a while - a nice bauble of absolutely no significance whatsoever. (5) I'm not opposed to sanctioning organizations, or even sanctioning organizations that enforce (arbitrarily or not) their rules. But I'd like to think that fans see the various titles for what they are in the 21st century: marketing props, and nothing more.

[@RummysCorner]

Excellent observations, all (notwithstanding the fact I am still generally undecided on AJ-Dubois, although you covered both angles there). Cheers!

[@jeepamir508]

Shame. Well, at least we have had an undisputed champ for quite some time.

[@justinboon3811]

Great channel Lewis knocks out Usyke round five

[@TechnoLawyer]

It’s a shitload of fuck, that’s what it is. That said, how epic would it be if Usyk beats Fury in the rematch, then beats the winner of Dubois-AJ to get the belt back?

[@Rogerdfgh]

Do i belive Usyk Prime vs Lennox prime, Usyk would win yes. But Lennox has a much better HW record. He is still nr2 in my book for this.

[@AntisocialSka1]

Usyk did not land that very last left on Fury intentionally. Great class, great personality, great human being.

[@AbbeyofTheleme]

I tuned in to hear you say you thought Usyk-Fury was a draw. Who are you? What have you done with Rumsfeld???

[@davejonns3825]

Guys in Lenox era , Lenox was giant, in Usyk era Usyk beats giants so here the big different.

[@fritsgerms3565]

I dont favour Lenox against Usyk. Strong boxer but slow. AJ has the same knockout power and is faster than Lenox. I think Usyk is the best heavyweight ever. Maybe Holyfield could come close, he also had a massive engine and heart.

[@chriswhite3090]

problems is top guys barely fighting so the belts are tied up

[@betzalelhughes4546]

Don’t get me wrong Usyk is my favourite boxer and deserves to be champion but he’s had the opportunity to fight Filip Hrgovic for so long but never took it. Being undisputed champion is about consistently beating the top contenders, not only beating the two top dogs. Joshua defeated Wallin and Dubois defeated Hrgovic so they are the top two ranked by the IBF. It’s a real boot up the backside that Usyk beat both of those guys so none of them have a claim to the real championship but there you go. If you only fight once a year as unified champion of the world, even by today’s appalling standards, you can’t be surprised when you get stripped.

[@KuS-ab]

Usyk was the first to sign a contract with the Arabs. He does not choose opponents of his own free will. Hrgovic lost to Dubois, and before him he had never fought anyone worth it. This is a dark horse and, as it turned out, not one of the best. Fury said many times - let Usyk fight Hrgovic. He hoped that their fight would never take place or that Usyk would get injured.

[@ceylonmooney]

well, it changes nothing. the IBF has ben doing this for a while, but theyre not much more selcetive about whom they mandate a title dfefense and whom they strip immediately. they did it to fury immediately following his win over klitschko. this is a reminder of business as usual with the alphabet sanctioning bodies, and a reminder that still the closest thing this sport has to a legitimate world champion is the ring championship. the ring does something that gives proper credit: if theres a champion, they refer to that fighter as champion. otherwise its titleholder or beltholder in reference to holding one or some of the 4 major world titles of the sancrioning bodies.

[@monsterman7721]

Why do we need so many belts all these alphabet organizations is what destroys boxing.