Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 2 Review

[@joshikins5674]

I honestly don’t know why I watch these. I just love Lisa and her reviews I guess.

[@aneeshprasobhan]

same

[@daniellove162]

Her vocal pattern is great.

[@fellowcitizen]

yeah, best tech reviewer - accurate, comprehensive, relevant, good ambience (not acting)

[@Lastman10101]

I love her too.

[@rkalla]

No BS information, not worried about her being bought out by advertisers.

[@darylnd]

It's wonderful to have a real reviewer and not just a gamer/spec-sheet reader! I didn't know the 4K touchscreen on the P1 is matte versus glossy on the X1 Extreme: matte's what I want. I'm also glad you noted the lack of visible texture on the P1's screen: I've read complaints that the touch surface on the X1 Extreme is visible. Thank you, Lisa!

[@NickEnchev]

Best no-bullshit, straight-forward laptop reviews. Love your channel!

[@likewaterforcoffee1570]

ThinkPads are the best! I bought mine thanks to one of your reviews, Lisa Gade!

[@circuitdotlt]

No numpad. I can't imagine how they manage to offer a quadro-equipped laptop for engineering folks, and not add numpad function combined with Fn key.

[@pd5156]

@@circuitdotlt You can swap FN key with CTRL in BIOS or lenovo thinkvantage software (but I'm agree, it's dumb). I personaly like the fact that there's no numpad for aestethics and most the time I work with external monitor and external keyboard anyway. Also, lenovo has something for "numpad lovers", T5xx series and P53 (or something). This P1 is like more "pro" version of X1 extreme which is direct competitor for MacBook Pro (same thing with Dell's XPS "precision" and HP Zbook "Studio"). I'd like to see thicker powerfull 14 inch workstation for myslef, maybe Ryzen M4800u bring something like that in the future.

[@circuitdotlt]

@@pd5156 yes you can swap Fn/Ctrl (but then you end up with incorrect markings on the keys). Numpad function, however, is a different issue with all lenovos. By numpad I mean the second function of JKLUIO keys. Most HPs and DELLs have them. No idea why lenovo does not include this, when there is zero extra cost. Or do they have to pay royalties to someone for including the feature??

[@redpillsatori3020]

Does it run most distros of Linux OK? I've had some bad luck with some PCs running Linux from overheating and draining the battery

[@samuelschwager]

"Speak softly and carry a big laptop; you will go far" - President Roosevelt

[@davidallen2211]

Many years ago I took a tour where these were made. To be able to see the stress tests they put these things through was amazing

[@darylnd]

I've been shopping for a new laptop for a couple of days. My eyes are burning from going through uninformative--downright ignorant, in many cases--videos and blog posts. I just stumbled upon your videos and they are a breath of fresh air. Thank you!

[@vipersqueal]

Haven't watched Lisa in awhile. But now I remember why I do. She knows what to cover and is straight forward. Love her style.

[@borisyeltsin6606]

Such a refreshing & quality review, best part about looking for a new laptop is binging this channel

[@tiaan7032]

I still have my 2015 Lenovo i5 Thinkpad T450s & use it every single day for hours on end. Havent had any issues with it & ive actually dropped it from hip height 2 times which is crazy but it just got scratched nothing broke. I also play many games like League of Legends, DOTA, Oxygen Not Included, Rimworld, Stardew Valley, CS GO, WoW etc & it runs great. Definitely getting another Thinkpad after this one! I think 5 years is enough & I got my money's worth :)

[@JohnWuWei]

Excited for this to show up at my local Costco. Glad to learn more about it.

[@alaskajoel]

Thinkpads are legendary for their keyboards, but the P1 and X1 extreme gen 2 have a keyboard defect that cannot be understated. After trying 3 different devices, I gave up trying to use it. You have to press directly in the center of the key to register a press, and even then, it misses a substantial number of key strokes. Lenovo forums are full of reports and failed attempts to fix it.

[@tadejsadar7033]

You pay 2k+ Eur and then this? Sad sad...

[@panparami6600]

Do you know if the issue has been resolved yet? I’m trying to choose between Thinkpad P1 Gen2 and the Thinkpad P53

[@JoelAsay]

@@panparami6600 Yes, this has been corrected for most users with a BIOS update to V1.29/1.30

[@hahaiseewhatyouredoing9086]

Nice review, Lisa! Hope there will be more workstation products review like this.

[@wdstevenson]

4:52 " . . . so you can work naked and be safe." LOL!!!!

[@Russeljrjs]

Ikr HAHAHAHAHA

[@ruthun]

They going for that pornhub 'mature'vibe anyway, so why not..

[@DigitalDesignET]

Just the lough I needed 😂

[@gabrielalonzo1211]

Hello Lisa. I’ve been following your channel for some time - love your reviews they are always technically solid with relevant information. Cheers from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺

[@joshuamohanadas9896]

Dat Mass Effect shirt reference ;)

[@8peterp]

just got the gen 3 with OLED , pretty good even now in almost 2024 ,thanks for the great reviews

[@Alpejohn]

Great review! As usual. Hands down the best laptop reviewer on youtube! :-)

[@NicolaMastrandrea]

Touch Matte Bright HDR Oled. Is this the nirvana?

[@gergo.r]

+wacom support!

[@evanesoteric]

Those are flaws, not features.

[@ceigey-au]

I dunno, I reckon they'd need to chuck glassless 3D and 120hz in there to hit Nirvana ;-)

[@mikester24622]

Keep up the great video reviews, Lisa. 😊

[@michaeltualatin]

I like Lisa's review so much~!

[@RXP91]

Matte, 180 degree hinge and OLED touch screen! Making me jealous, looking forward to this hitting the used markets in the coming years. Can't justify upgrading my XPS 7590 OLED yet!

[@RaphaelPeirone]

Hahaha litteraly same here.

[@RXP91]

@@RaphaelPeirone I've been marveling at the anti reflective coating on the Dell and how much of a game changer it is over any other OLED screen I've had. But Matte would be even better!

[@RaphaelPeirone]

@@RXP91 Exactly, and touchscreen... But to be fair the Dell is a flawless product as well!

[@maximilianl5885]

I bought a X1 Extreme and + the thermal throttling is pretty horrific compared to other notebooks + the keyboard has typing issues (big thread on Lenovo forums, no solution on Lenovos side... + the fans spin up pretty loud + My oled screen is REALLY unevenly lit especially showing grey content and on lower brightness levels. + the Batterylife with my OLED is 4 Hours MAX.... Not sure how 7h are even possible there with a xeon processor and Quadro Graphics. The battery capacity was never designed for a 4K OLED screen as its the same as GEN 1 had without an OLED option. + on 1:05 i can see the screen being very glossy. So only the inner layer isnt shiny? For me this product is bad. They put the next gen Intel CPUs in a thermal design of the older generation. This and they didnt even fix the bios issues the device has with that Im not really happy even if i try cause other factors are really nice on this machine... Guess it never left the prototyping space and got pushed out with no thoughts spend....

[@adultlunchables]

While Lenovo did fuck up here, why did you think such a thin form factor laptop could cool those specs? It's their fault for selling it, but it's also your fault for buying it. Stupidity all around.

[@_KORK]

Sounds like all the problems I had with my 2017 Dell XPS, bought Lenovo Y540 gaming laptop last year and it was much better experience overall.

[@mehoprelivoda]

Intel XTU is your friend, undervolt it to avoid thermal and power throtling. (I get 60fps in witcher 3 on mid-high settings and max 70C) Typing issues will be solved by disabling that hybrid sleep or fast sleep win feature. Fans could be controlled from Vantage app. Xeon itself will get you much worse battery life, but not as much as that 4k display, so 4h with that spec is not that bad...

[@treffermedia9202]

"+ the Batterylife with my OLED is 4 Hours MAX.... Not sure how 7h are even possible there with a xeon processor and Quadro Graphics. The battery capacity was never designed for a 4K OLED screen as its the same as GEN 1 had without an OLED option." ..... isnt the biggest allowance 100W for airplanes? There is not so much room for more battery..... post like yours exist for any laptop atm it seems

[@Cenot4ph]

This is the gen 1 I think, a lot of the issue with gen 1 have been solved in gen 2. My fans are rarely loud, only when they should. Thermal throttling is a problem with all laptops of this size, I haven't seen one reviewed that does much better and that includes Macbooks

[@gyozakeynsianism]

I think there's just enough life left in that meme for your shirt to be funny. Great review as always!

[@TonyMuka]

Thanks for the great reviews, Lisa! In the review of the 4k OLED MATTE screen (which sounds awesome!) In this video I'm seeing some crosshatch X shaped diagonal noise come and go in almost every photo that loads- does that happen in person, or is that camera/youtube compression playing tricks on me? I see some mention of this issue on the lenovo forums, but this screen does seem to have all the features i'd want! Thanks!

[@TonyMuka]

this is the thread i mentioned forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile-Workstations/P1-Gen-2-Small-dots-on-OLED-screen/m-p/4544327

[@jameshubbard7565]

I would love to see a video explaining lenovo's extremely confusing product lineup and what they are geared towards...

[@JBrown-go8ru]

It’s not that hard. They even explain the different models on their website.

[@bemblake6390]

I actually own a P1 Gen 2 with an i9, 32gb ram, t2000 graphics, and q 1tb ssd and I absolutely love it! Perfect for graphic designers, developers, etc. It also can be good at running some games as well. I definitely recommend buying one!

[@panparami6600]

Have you had any heating issues? Is the keystrokes thing resolved? I’m thinking of getting this one or the p53.. help?

[@batman.._]

No thermal issues?

[@crisrobiou]

fantastic review!

[@misterhoeflak]

Just ordered one of these from Lenovo (25% off!), on the back of your review. Thanks Lisa!

[@mikegarcia8815]

What is the discount code?

[@jacobyu5050]

Thank you for showing the inside of the laptop.

[@SampsaSulonen]

Got this as work laptop and it's been pretty nice so far. One thing to note if you want to upgrade the M.2 SSD yourself: you need to get a single sided m.2 drive with no chips and just flat PCB on the other side since only signle sided drives fit the slot. I've seen people jam a double sided one in but it will bend the drive and maybe not be good in extended use. The info is buried on the Lenovo website in one spec sheet PDF and not found very easily, had to ask from EU Facebook support page for this since the normal chat on the Lenovo site didn't know anything about their products... :)

[@Eysc]

Love the little arrow keys, super useful

[@JesusLordOverAll]

Thanks for another great review

I have a 1st gen X1 Extreme with the i5-8300H. This CPU thermal throttled like crazy. It went up to 4GHz and right back down to around 2 after a few seconds. If the new generation does this, it's worth to check out ThrottleStop and undervolt the CPU a little. After a 150mV undervolt my machine can sustain 4GHz for an extended period of time. It's a rather safe procedure, the worst thing that can happen is that the laptop freezes if you undervolt too much and will reset.

[@likewaterforcoffee1570]

ThinkPads are the best PCs out there. I love my P71, it's a huge hefty machine, but it's amazing and powerful.

[@RinksRides]

you had me at Xeon, Quadro, ECC, 4K touch!

[@doit997]

Ive been waiting for this

[@flyingaviator8158]

Itsvtime for more matte options, especially in the convertibles and x1 fold!

[@wethepeopleofghana8441]

I bought one when they still had the anniversary promo going for $1,636.08. Got the i9 with 16gb ram, 512 SSD. I wanted long battery life so I chose the 15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) display. I got it mainly for programming, a little bit of an overkill, but boy this machine is blazing fast. It feels durable, ruggedized and light at the same time. One of the few problems I have is the fun noise, it kicks in once in a while when you are not even charging it and running light applications, and it comes on regularly when charging. Another problem is the back lit keyboard, the lights bleeds through the gaps around the keys and can be very uncomfortable to use when the light is on; I do touch typing so I can do without the light. The last one is the heat. If you normally put your laptop on your lab then the head can be a problem, especially when charging. If you are buying one, I will advice you install the browser extension honey, it will get you all the coupons that apply, and Lenovo have quite a lot of them. All in all, I love it because of how fast and steady it is.

[@lloydgoodman1636]

How do you like the screen? Did you get the 500nit dolby one?

[@wethepeopleofghana8441]

@@lloydgoodman1636 I got this one: 15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, 500 nits, anti-glare with Dolby Vision™ HDR 400. The brightness is beyond expectation and the colors are rich. Like I said, I wanted my battery to last so I didn't want to the OLED one.

[@srtcsb]

Gotta love the carbon fiber. Thanks for a great review Lisa.

[@mplot0]

Is it a *true* 4K OLED matte display? Lenovo’s own website doesn’t list “anti-glare” as a spec for the 4K OLED panel for both the X1 and P1. One one forum I saw an owner posted that it is a glossy display that is almost matte. Is the X1 the same? I was about to get an X1 4K but if the panel is different on the P1 and is more matte, then my decision has been made.

[@beck4218]

Matte OLED for the win. I am going with the P1 thanks Lisa

[@yue8599]

I already know what laptop I want, but this woman is just entertaining. I don’t know what she saying I just need to know what computers can handle sims.

[@z193geo7]

Wow，This workstations laptop have luxury design and wonderful Performance at INTEL CORE I7 CPU and Nvidia Quadro Card （GPU）

[@ThomasWSmith-wm5xn]

I feel like something from the thinkpad lineup is my only option in 2020. Ports, quality keyboard, a screen that doesn’t double as a mirror/smudge magnet, and a non touch option are all huge factors for me. I feel like laptops are moving more towards media devices than something to work on and that erks me. Me: Thinkpad x1 carbon 7th gen bootcamp instructor by night web dev by day

[@robertoarmstrong7317]

Lisa your shirts never fail to impress

[@mrrolandlawrence]

I REALLY wish they would be dropping in some of those sweet new AMD 4000 apu's with 8 cores and 16 threads.

[@tadejsadar7033]

I hope this will happen for 2021 models.

[@oscarbarrios]

Wish my boss had gotten me this instead of the older heavier brother :/. Thank you for the review Lisa!

[@lucafranchi5836]

Hi Lisa, thanks for the review. I've just bought this machine, and with the touch screen I really feel the need of a pen! The official website suggest to buy the pro pen but on your review you are actually using another model...is it the 4x80h34887 version, or other? Many thanks and congrants for the channel!

[@InfinityMind1]

Gee, I wish I have seen it before buying X1 Extreme Gen2. I could really use that better GPU. And touch screen is less comfortable I imagined.

[@grandcalifornia8410]

Love your videos! 👏🏻

[@yengsabio5315]

4:50 "...so you can work naked & be safe." How reassuring! 😂😂😂

[@pnamajck]

can hardly believe … i've actually watched one of *lisa* 's reviews from start to finish! first ever computer i had was *ibm-aptiva* _(win-95)_ … think i need to get me one of these *lenovo* 's. better wait a few more years … graphene batteries should be hitting the market 2 - 2½ years from now … surely *lonovo* will be one of the first to debut. just replaced my *toshiba* internal keyboard … it should last another 3+ years. thanks for your knowledge, *lisa* … kudos!

[@2011Kestrel]

I wouldn’t recommend getting the i9 in most “thin and light” laptops. The cooling just isn’t there in many laptops so the performance gain wouldn’t be worth the cost of the i9. And the longevity of the i9 when it’s running hot all the time would be questionable.

[@redpillsatori3020]

Yep.. I love ultrabooks but I think they've gone too far.. I'll take a little extra thickness over CPU throttling anyday

[@MountFX]

This notebook with an AMD Ryzen 4000 processor (with optional graphics card) would be extremely nice 😍

[@odysseasmichanetzis6545]

Hi Lisa, thanks for this review; are you sure this is a matte oled touch? There is no such option on the Lenovo site for p1. Recently ordered mine with a 4k ips matte non-touch which takes ages to be delivered due to the coronavirus situation. I would really appreciate your reply if an oled matte exists so that I could change my order. Thanks

[@ahtobgy]

hi there, please clarify something for me, did you build a custom laptop, or you ordered an available product, because I Am about to order mine which should be delivered in 5 days according to Lenovo. Thanks a lot

[@odle243]

Hi Lisa, would you recommend the P1 gen 2 or a X1 yoga Gen 5 for a person who does a little CAD work on the go (remote desktop does the heavy lifting in today's climate), bluebeam, and Adode creative suite work. I currently have a P40 which I love, but I'm looking at stepping up to one of the new offerings. Stay safe.

[@Nextdivine]

That mass Effect shirt reminds me of the review you did of the x230 many years ago.

[@backpackingvillager1480]

This or P53 for music production/photography?

[@bakisolak]

Why I can't see viewing angles in specifications of the listed oled display? I think that this is one of the most important features in the display.

[@gaweyn]

how about the missing keystrokes? why are we not talking about them? (see Lenovo forums)

[@fritz4345]

Wow, I just googled it. That seems to be a huge issue. I just thought I would buy this laptop (after a lot of research) but now I think I won't.

[@Miguel-mv5yc]

Does it happen on all Thinkpads or just the P1?

[@fritz4345]

@@Miguel-mv5yc From what I read, just on some highend ones like the P1. I went with Dell because of this issue.

[@teancoffee208]

I would've seriously considered this laptop if it had LTE capabilities. The look of it sucks imo, but the device is a good one, so being able to use it anywhere would've been amazing.

[@mikev324]

Hi Lisa... will you do an XPS 13 2020 review soon? Would mainly like to know if the bottom firing speakers on the 2020 sound as clear in the high frequencies compared to previous generations which had the speakers on the sides and where pretty good imo. Normally bottom firing speakers are not good for clarity. Would be nice to get a reply. Thanks.

[@stevenjtorodeleon9123]

Hi great review. Do you recommend it for some graphic design? Iknow you cant fold it like a tablet. If i want to use the pen for some tshirt sketch designs, it will be accurate enough for some quality designs? Thank you for the great review.

[@coccoborg]

Love how upgradable this is, still sad that neither intel, nor AMD sell socketed laptop CPUs anymore, this would have been the perfect candidate for one of those: buy with an i5 now, upgrade to i7 or i9 later.

[@kevinyu3863]

Francesco Barbieri it is soldered?

[@coccoborg]

@@kevinyu3863 yeah, all laptop CPUs are soldered now, haswell was the very last generation to have socketed models. Some Chinese manufacturers are making desktop socket equipped laptops, but they're a niche and very thick and heavy.

[@kevinyu3863]

Francesco Barbieri pretty sure thinkpad is still upgradable

[@coccoborg]

@@kevinyu3863 the CPU isn't

[@TheFalco708]

great news for display I hope they'll do more

[@odysseasmichanetzis6545]

Just noticed at 3:20 that there seem to be about 7 dead pixels on the screen! I hope it's debris, not pixels, although the bottom right one is persistent during the whole discussion on the OLED screen. Btw Lisa, still waiting for a reply about the OLED matte option; would really appreciate it, thanks!

[@LazyPCRehab]

Planning on doing a review of the Galaxy Book S?

[@2011Kestrel]

Burn-in may still be an factor with OLED displays - no manufacturer including Lenovo is saying how they’ve solved this issue. So I would stick with an IPS display if longevity is important to you and you don’t need the features that come with an OLED one.

[@caseygatesrolfing]

Love your videos. So much good information. I was hoping to get your advice. I’m looking for a laptop that I’ll use exclusively for day trading stocks. While at home I plan to hook 3 external monitors to it. Would you recommend the p1 or x1 extreme. I’m generally a Mac person so all of this is kind of over my head :-/ thanks in advance

[@ozzie_goat]

I'm still rocking a T440. ♥

[@salvationwithoutregret9781]

I just buoght an t480 :D

[@SebisRandomTech]

NightVisi0n Hase I just acquired a T480 myself, but am still gladly rocking a T60. :)

[@sonpham3438]

d-d-do you use ARCH?

[@adultlunchables]

t440p here. Great model with a quad core CPU.

[@tadejsadar7033]

T440 are very popular nowadays due to being cheap as f. :)

[@peachcityshankar1174]

👌😎🙏🙏 I own a Gen 1 - since 2 plus years - it rocks - loving it I SAP VMs and it’s awesome🔥👍👍

[@dontbotherreading]

Probably will get this for the main purpose of mobile app development, need something with relatively high memory in terms of ssd and ram

[@adiabriganjarutama6144]

simple question, if something happen with the keyboard, do we really need to replace the whole palmrest, or at least remove the whole palmrest which is pretty much have to completely dissasembly the unit only to replace the keyboard? Whats on your mind Lenovo????

[@richardgilmore5607]

I have this one from the Lenovo xmas sale. 4k version. It would been better if I went with the 1080 version. 4k screen is too power hungry. But happy with it. Already expanded with a second 1T ssd'. I do heavy programming.

[@noura.darwish]

Hello, Thank you for the review.. I have a question, please.. Does it support CMYK display as the Mac? I need full color range, and I'm in between Lenovo P1 and Dell XPS 17.. I need it tor designing and I don't want to go for Mac tbh Thanks in advance

[@opinionatedinsect]

".. You can work naked and be safe.." LMAO.

[@michelebelladonna773]

What do you think about the image quality of the integrated cam? Thank you.

[@WorldWideMusic2000]

Lenovo should make a 17' P1 with numpad

[@djazz0]

This but with a ryzen 4000 apu... would be awesome!

[@thanhavictus]

How many PCIe Lanes are allocated to the thunderbolt? And can the HDMI be used as HDMI in? And what's the refresh rate? I'd love to know if it has pwm flickering

[@evanesoteric]

P1 is great. Really is. Keyboard isn’t perfect and the chassis isn’t aluminum, but it’s great.

[@MGD320]

Could You Make Review about System 76 Laptops , nice review as always

[@rebeccathorne5370]

Doing research on good laptops for AutoCAD rendering and such, what are your recommendations?

[@ivansanchez2383]

The $4500 model is on sale for $2200 with 3 year warranty.... kinda wanna pull the trigger on this for my next 4 years in architecture left but hesitant only because there might be something better out there. Any advice y’all?

[@abubakerjandan]

Thank you so much I like your video

[@thenubianspeaks4329]

isn't it sort of ironic that the last generation 4k touch display was a substantially wuder color gamut (lower number are better) than the oled of this model, check it out, your own review Lisa

[@CyberDefenseContractors]

Thank you so much for this review. You do a great job of sticking to the point and no fluff. Two questions. One relevant, the other not so much. Would you know if the two thunderbolt 3 ports are each four-lane? I'd like to get this laptop but I need one that can drive two 5k displays. Also, that's a pretty nice mic you have. Can you share what brand and model it is?

[@mh2000wh]

Are all P1 Gen2 compitible with Pen? or only with touch display?

[@Ostiosti]

Did you experience coil whine with your test model? I have the gen2 Fhd, i7, T1000 model and it it coile whines like hell, pretty annoying :( Otherwise it is a great notebook for work. Though fans are quite noisier than expected.

[@AndreiAndrei-pg8eg]

All thinkpads had and have coil whine, get over it.

[@I3ull37]

I am searching for a thin and light laptop for gamedev... so coding AND blender modelling and Unreal Engine kind of stuff... Would this be a right choice?

[@rishabhrai1466]

Could you also take a look at the yoga S740. 💻

[@christiancarter7563]

I went to a computer science collage and we got the first shipment of P1 gen 2. I ended up failing out hut got to keep the laptop. :)

[@tikitakaboyz5050]

Does the Xeon version bring any software included?

[@nellatl]

When are you reviewing p15 and p17?

[@rationalityfirst]

Is the only benefit of a Xeon CPU in a laptop the use of ECC memory? If only another makes would have ECC support on all CPUs, not only the top tier... hmm

[@UsmanAli-td6rp]

Ms Lisa Does hp offer 15 '' spectre with narrow bezels as it does on early 2020 13.3'' spectre laptops?

[@OctoDarbz]

Usman Ali yes but not yet, it comes out for sale over the next couple months some time

[@kevinnelson2673]

any others with matte oled? true matte

[@TomZhou-v3f]

I’m trying to decide between thinkpad and HP Zbook , which is better?

[@tomswan3401]

i think thinkpad is often used. i would only get hp if the price is much smaller and after looking careful at zbook reviews and upgradeability.

[@abhignaconscience358]

Which one should I buy x1 xtreme or p1