Ampero Profiles vs Nano Cortex vs ToneX vs Kemper: deep dive and scientific tests (vs real SOLDANO)

[@michaelrock]

Holy shit, suddenly Ampero 2 is the Dual Cortex everyone was asking for

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😀

[@CoenBijpost]

It’s actually the triple cortex if you look at the number of dsp cores 😅 And at less than half the price!

[@michaelrock]

@@CoenBijpost But it has only two signal chains :(

[@davidrichard2098]

Thank you Mr Gibson.

[@Lythunder]

Other channels: "guys this sounds great, wow so much chug, I love it so you should love too" Leo: "Here is the engineering-level technical comparison you can only find in NASA"

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😀 thank you so much, Really appreciated!!!

[@tonvks]

What a surprising result on a null test. Ampero really putting up a strong competition here. You're the best guitar related gear reviewer here on KZbin. Can't wait to see how you do capture on the Ampero

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video! Yes, very surprising result!

[@ronnieparker2546]

Bought Ampero stage because of your videos. So pleased with this piece of gear. Thanks Leo.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and thank you for sharing your choice!

[@bluematrix5001]

Leo is the most serious and informative when is about Guiy=tar gear, specially Profilers units...hope continue like this, honest and unbiased

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for such amazing compliments, I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos!!!

[@tonepilot]

He not financially dependent on his reviews so there’s no reason to worry.

[@dimejoe2621]

No bullshit and straight to the point with required details🗿Leo the chad💪🏻

[@clevelandrr]

I can’t imagine how much time it takes you to make these tests. I’m thankful for you, and made my decision to purchase a floor effects modeler from your well thought out methodology. Thank you.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy to have been of some help!!!

[@daviguitar2000]

Leo, Your tests are respected all over the world. Keep up the great work!!! We are so lucky to have you!!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for such amazing compliments!!!! I’m the one lucky to have all of you 😀… thank you!!

[@vanmira]

I've had the Ampero for 6 months now and it still continues to impress me, and now with tone capture it's the complete package. Leo, you rock! I really appreciate what you do. 🙏🏽

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos! Thank you also for sharing your experience!

[@robepr]

Hi @@LeoGibsonGtr, was tone capture add to the ampero 2 stage in a software release?

[@aaronsinger]

I use Tonex with Amalgam captures mostly, which come in many tonal variations, so I never feel the need to tweak the extra IK tone controls. To do so would be contradictory to the verisimilitude, which is the whole point of these profilers. I take the capture as it is. Of course there is so much tonal control from the guitar itself, not to mention low cuts and other EQ moves at the console or in the mix. I came here hoping for validation for the Tonex, as I am loving it right now. I did get that validation, at least to my satisfaction. We all want the stuff we bought to be as good as we believe it is, lol. Leo Gibson, thank you very much for bringing objectivity to this arena.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome, and I'm happy that you appreciate the video!!! Thank you also for sharing your experience!

[@taylormesa]

I landed in the same spot. Amalgam captures are superb! I think we have now reached the law of diminishing returns. The only way to differentiate is with a side by side null test. They all sound great. Pick the form factor you like and play guitar! 👊🏼

[@darrinwilson8484]

Yep I have spent more on Amalgam profiles than I spent on the Tonex pedal and the Tonex One pedal combined. I use them about 99% of the time, although i do like some of IK's Dumble profiles.

[@begooode380]

Thanks!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Wow, thank you so much, really super appreciated!!!!

[@SteveGreyScratchGame]

Leo, i love your videos. I mean.. i like how you talk, camera angles, video editing. Just saying it cuz it really give me some indescribable vibes. Really good. All i want now in your videos that you can continue to do comparative tests, so that they are side by side, millisecond by millisecond. It's really cool for videos about some digital units and other stuff

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you sooo much, I'm really super happy that you appreciate the channel!!! These are really nice compliments that make me happy!!

[@Krisunio]

As always, Best gear reviews on youtube! Thanks Leo.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment, I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos!!!

[@ShreddingReg]

This is an incredibly thorough comparison! Must have taken you a shitload of time too... I'm a Kemper user, and your comparison confirmed me that I don't need to go looking for another unit... I'm extremely pleased with the Kemper. However, if you're a new guitarist looking to buy a profiler, it gets incredibly difficult to choose the right unit for you... Great video, Leo! 🤘

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video....and yes...it took me a lot of time. Thank you also for sharing your findings!

[@tabichox]

You're in another level as always. Thanks for the information.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos!!!

[@Obssy]

Leo you are one the best gear reviewer online, right up there with Henning Paulie and very few others. Thank you for your hard work 🤘

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for such amazing compliments...that really make me happy!!!

[@hexnomics7924]

Love the comparisons, well done. I've got a Ampero 2 stomp, and honestly, it blows my mind each time I play guitar. I got it for a steal on the second market because the guy purchased the newest head rush unit, its crazy how much value for money you can get because of new units being released.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video! Thank you also for sharing your experience and your opinions!

[@joevinil7943]

Leo is the wizard of tone comparison's , amazing job 🎉🎉🎉

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😀 thank you so much!!!

[@fixelheimer3726]

And video editing :D

[@gabrieli.8602]

Leo, congrats for the great work you are providing to the guitar community. Cheers

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos!!!

[@thecaveofthedead]

Impressive work as always Leo.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos!!!

[@mCKENIC]

Thank you for all the hard work Leo! This is a very interesting and informative video

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm happy that you appreciate the video!

[@victorpontes1995]

The best review ever, thanks Leo!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Wow, thank you so much for such amazing compliment!!!

[@leondantas]

Hotone confirmed the profiles will come to the ampero 2 stomp, they missed a lot on updates but now they come with everything.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thanks!!! I think the Stomp can load profile but not create them, as it misses the XLR input: am I right? Thanks!

[@kostamuspoika]

​@@LeoGibsonGtr I think XLR input is not mandatory. Using balance cables in short distance is not a big deal I guess.

[@mangoesDB]

Where did they confirm this?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

I think XLR is needed as you mic the cab with a mic and the mic needs an XLR to drive it (even with phantom power for some mics)....I'm not thinking at XLR for noise reasons, but in order to drive a mic (that capture the cabinet of the amp)

[@caiooliveira4692]

Hi man! where did they confirm that the profiles are coming to the ampero 2 stomp?

[@rutger4131]

For ToneX, I saw someone mention the following: you can look up the schematic of the actual amp and use component values to calculate the corner frequencies of the tone stack. In ToneX you can adjust these corner frequencies to match the original and that will get you closer to how the real amp behaves. Something worth a try!

[@CharLessMajor7Music]

Can i ask what those corner frequencies and how do you actually do it.. thanks

[@rutger4131]

@@CharLessMajor7Music look up "Rob Robinette How The TMB Tone Stack Works" and download "Duncan Tone Stack Calculator" (TSC). Then look up the schematic of the amp you'r using and identify the tone stack, plug the resistor and capacitor values into the TSC and / or calculate them using the equation on Robinette's website. It probably won't be an exact match, but really close especially if you don't go to the extreme sides of the dial on the ToneX. Also, this assumes that the amp was captured with everything at noon and actually has a TMB tone stack.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Very interesting, thank you

[@taylormesa]

I’m interested in this also. Do you have a link or reference for where you saw this? Very interesting, thanks!

[@rutger4131]

@@taylormesa It was a comment on another ToneX video, don't know which one but it makes sense. The biggest difference between a Fender and a Marshall is the component values and placement of the tone stack (Fender / Mesa: pre gain, Marshall: post gain). Under the advanced settings in ToneX you have basically a full parametric EQ that you can dial in to your liking. This is way more flexible than the traditional TMB tone stack and can get you most any sound you'd normally get from an EQ pedal. So another take on this could be to just start with a good capture and use your ears, instead of fuzzing over if it is really like the amp. Anyway, from the Marshallforum I got that the frequencies for a Marshall are approx: 50 Hz, 600 Hz, 3 kHz and 10 kHz (BMPT). Q around 1 should work well. These frequencies are not absolute, as the knobs on a real TMB tone stack are NOT independent. So changing the treble control actually affects the frequency of the mid and bass controls as well. Fun fact: to hear the 'pure' sound of your amp with as little influence of the tone stack as possible, set treble and bass really low (0 to 2) and the mids up to full (8 tot 10). The info on robrobinette.com really contains all that is to know about TMB tone stacks. Check it out, it's not that hard.

[@enma7221]

Amizing test and great content as ever, Leo! Thank u so much master! 🙌🏽🔥

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!

[@vomito72]

you are right competition is good for us! The new Ampero is pretty cool considering it is more a slim pedalboard compared with the other units I'm only confused about the last test , in a previous video Tonex was more consistent changing the capture settings compared to the kemper thought By the way all are amazing

[@picksalot1]

To my ears, the Kemper Profiler was the most accurate sounding. I preferred the ToneX sound, even over the real Amp. All the Profilers were very good, and any of them would be a good choice, as the differences in sound were insignificant, and could always be adjusted if necessary. I would be interested how the Profiles compare to NAM. Great job as always, Leo. You are a real credit to the guitar community for the thoroughness and unbiased way you test and compare gear. Thanks 👏👍

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for sharing your findings and I’m happy that you appreciate the channel!

[@jcoulter43]

Leo you are the best! Very enjoyable video and the demo song was killer as usual. The Ampero makes a compelling case for itself. God bless and rock on 👍😎🎸

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for such amazing compliments and for sharing your opinion!!!

[@АндрейПолевой-я5и]

Thanks for this video, you are the first one who show ampero prifiling quality! It's interesting to compare this profile and slo100 HQ model in ampero, with null test too)😊

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm happy to have been of some help!!!

[@guivasconcelos21]

Awesome video, Leo! Thanks for producing these comparisons! I'd like to suggest testing the HX Stomp. I know it's not profiles, but models, but it's still a competitor IMO and similar price range. Thanks and great job on the video!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm happy that you appreciate the video! I don't think it's possible to make a null test with the HX, as I should tweak myself the unit to get closer to the soldano, and therefore it would be biased. I will think about it

[@guivasconcelos21]

@@LeoGibsonGtr yeah, that makes sense. Comparing the models vs profiles in some way could be helpful anyway. Cheers!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Yes, it would be interesting indeed...thakns!

[@serhanguitar]

Holy shit, i was waiting for this! i'm really shocked... Now i need to get the Stage or the Ampero 2 cause i have the Stomp... You are the best, Leo, keep it up!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!

[@stickman55100]

Incredibly informative and I love the scientific approach!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!

[@BobGuido]

Love the comparison videos Leo! I would love to hear you compare one all clean and open sounding amp tone using these: 1. Friedman IR pedal with real tubes 2. The latest Fractal Audio amp model 3. ToneX pedal with amp capture from Amalgam Audio 4. Quad/Nano Cortex with the same Amalgam Audio amp capture 5. UA pedal with their amp model These five products are the leading ones for amp simulation in the pedal format. If you use the same IR in the test, I think it will become obvious which company's technology is the leading one. A clean Plexi or VOX AC30TB would make a good amp type for the test because the real amps are very dynamic with lots of complex harmonic overtones.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos! I'm a bit reluctant in comparing profilers vs modellers, as the profiler (capturing a specific profile of an amp) has an advantage in terms of pure sound and how close they are to the real deal. I will think about it. Thanks!

[@davidrona]

WOW - Amerpo !!! thanks Leo for all your work on this...I'm amazing AND so happy I purchased the Ampero Stage 2 and now that it's also a profiler AND modeler. Super happy. thank you team hotone

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and thank you for your message!

[@CL_Audio_Tuning]

Well, its official, the Ampero II is a game changer, with this filtering over to the Stage and Stomp line this will make that series a very very significant contender in the market! Thanks Leo for this amazing video as always! Time to switch to Ampero.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You’re welcome and thank you for sharing your thoughts!

[@carlos_castanaut]

Again a very good comparison 👍 To me the Ampero sounded surprisingly good and the nano cortex sounded compressed.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, I'm happy that you appreciate the video! Thank you also for sharing your findings!

[@tonyrapa-tonyrapa]

Great work, as always, Leo. However, in the null tests there is still a lot of sound which would indicate that these profilers have a long way to go. In terms of comaprisons, the Ampero seemed a bit fizzy to me. Of course, firmware updates could fix that.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, I'm happy that you appreciate the video! Thank you also for sharing your findings

[@Reckor94]

Ampero is surprising, I honestly didn't expect it to be at that level. I'm a Line6 user but I'm in the Ampero stage as a backup, I'll start playing with the captures. It's sad that Line6 hasn't entered the world of captures and profiles.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing! Let’s hope that also Line 6 embrace profiling!

[@rgbplumbinghilton]

Nice in-depth look at these popular units. Ampero has certainly moved up the ranks! They all seemed to perform well as a whole. The performance vs value is what is important for most average players as not all of us have £1000's to spend! So the Tonex is still most accurate capture for the price point and the new updated firmware coming in November, giving delays and modulations makes it a few steps ahead of anything on the market at this time! The only negative I can see for it is the poor software, and not being able to separate the L and R output for CAB on and off. Amazon have had the Tonex on sale for £249.99 in the UK

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm happy that you appreciate the video! Thank you also for sharing your findings!

[@BlackbirdDH]

Oh man ... another beautiful demo song ...love it ... ;-) ... and I am very Happy for the folks and Hotone. They are building a great ecosystem.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much… when you like my music I’m super happy!!!

[@Theliraan]

Thanks, Leo. To be honest, it's big surprise for me how Hotone getting into new area of technologies. I think they can compete L6 better now in midrange price range.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and thank you for sharing! Yes, I'm surprised too!

[@veciroker]

Another great video, Leo! Tonex wins again when it comes to profiling. Excellent result for Ampero (excellent price-quality ratio). Kemper seems to be becoming a thing of the past.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I?m really happy that you appreciate the video! Than you also for sharing your findings!

[@algorithm007ify]

The Null test says otherwise, if you change the EQ.

[@pskim1282]

I love you man. This is fantastic work.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm happy that you appreciate the video!!!

[@luizalbertokoehler4904]

very good analysis 👏👏👏

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!

[@svengo]

Thank you, Leo

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome!!!

[@guitaraj27]

Excelente, aprendo en cada video que colocas! 😮

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you!

[@Freddekaddeth]

Great playing Leo.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, when you like my playing....I'm super happy!!!

[@diogeneswaraujo]

Very nice! Thank you for the video and your work, it’s great! I'm hobbyist guitar player and I’ve just acquired ampero stage 2 after watch your review video, and I got positively surprised that the unit will support tone capture. I’m curious to see how is the process to capture and if hotone will create a way to share the captures like tonex.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, I'm happy that you appreciate the video! Yes...interesting points!

[@torrezani]

Great video Leo

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much!!!

[@ali-om4uv]

Great video. I still feel the fractal units sound better. But i am still happy with my quad cortex

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing and I'm happy that you appreciate the video!!!

[@maxxstock]

VERY COOL, thanks Leo!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome!!!

[@nicolasrivera5310]

Great vid Leo. One thing that would be cool to mention or test is how long do the units take for the whole capture process.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you! Good point....I think I will make a video about the Ampero Capturing process...it does not take a lot of time...it's quite quick...very similar to Kemper

[@DreidMusicalX]

I'm, glad I bought the TONEX, I was going to save up and get a kemper. but it didn't sound as real to me in some way and also the Ampero in the beginning of your video sounded not so well. The Nanocortex sounds buzzy? Maybe these are just EQ settings thats could be fixed with an EQ pedal in the chain. But they all did well and I think in a mix all of them stood up well. I know I am not displeased with the Tonex I have and now an update is coming out to give it effects it didn't have next month in November. I also like the fact I can have any amp captured to download to it. It makes it simple to find great tones for any guitar to work with. I just wish we had this technology back when I was 16. 39 years of playing guitar and I am loving all of this stuff. I mix it with real amps and cabinets and not trying to replace one from another. Thanks for the video, it was great and in detail.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome, I'm happy that you appreciate the video! Thank you also for sharing your experience and your findings!

[@thriveimagedesign]

Wow awesome, I hope Hotone will update the stage and stomp to allow community captured models to be loaded.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you!

[@Filocitas]

You are the best Leo!! Thanks 👍

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos!!!

[@8stringwrshpleader]

Yes! I knew the Ampero 2 would be great! Would you mind doing a video showing if there's a difference in the latency between a single vs parallel signal chain? I want to buy this as a processor for electric and acoustic, but I would also like to see if it could do vocals and acoustic well. I think I saw on the list of vocal effects and autotuner. This just might eat up all of the Headrush Prime marketshare! 🙀

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, I have already done a video about singer and guitar player....as regards latency of the Ampero with parallel signal chain...I have to find the time...

[@8stringwrshpleader]

@LeoGibsonGtr No rush, I appreciate the detailed reviews! I'm probably going to try and buy the ampero around the new year either way. Based on what I've seen so far, it think it's exactly what I need!

[@leondantas]

thanks Leo, great video.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome, I'm happy that you like the video!

[@adama2562]

I recently subscribed to this channel, I'm very impressed! Thanks Leo for all the hard work you do putting together these informative videos and of course your awesome guitar playing! I'm a friedman tube amp player and really looking for something that has a lot of variety amp profiles because I love trying out new tones. Does anyone have any recommendations based off your experience for someone new to getting into amp modelers or profilers? Thanks!!!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the channel!!! I would say that it mainly depends on your budget...you can get high end units...like the Quad Cortex or the Kemper...where the QC also offers modeling other than profiling. Then I you want something that allows you to really tweak a tons of parameters....Fractal is the way to go. Thanks!

[@bitdevice]

Can you easily share profiles for Ampero with the community? Also, excellent video!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much! I think I'm gonna create a package of profiles...for a really small amount of money...don't worry....:)

[@Slavetskiy]

that's why I don't want to play Cotrex... I like the Ampero stage better in sound... This is very interesting. Thanks Leo for the detailed answer!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm happy to have been of some help!

[@BudiPrasetyoHarsono]

Had an Ampero Stomp for over a year, really impressed with the unit, especially after the scene added. Now with the ability to load the capture, I think Ampero Stomp is the bargain of multi effects we're all asking. Don't get me wrong, I think the pitch effects still not good. Usable overdrive, but not all impressive so I'm using Keeley Red Dirt Mini as my main OD. Meh fuzz and distortion so I use ZVex Fuzzolo and EWS Little Brute Drive

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing! I want to make profiles also of overdrive pedals....as I agree that the drives inside Ampero can be improved....let's see what we can get....Thanks

[@BudiPrasetyoHarsono]

@@LeoGibsonGtr how's the DSP consuming of the capture? Is it limiting the signal chain?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

hi, I would wait the final release, as with the beta maybe the sw is not optimised. Thanks!

[@Searchio]

Ha. Here the same. I bought my A. II Stomp (yes, cause of Leo!) and have my Octava, Carcosa and Pitchfork in front. The Pitchshifters are not good and only usable to create some Leslie or Organ sounds. The Bender Fuzz in the AIIStomp is fine and works as an alternative, the FF isn't usable. Nonetheless the IIStomp was the best purchase i made. Oh, and with the bargain 20€ dual footswitch from Hotone (looks like a boutique super expensive beauty gear) its more flexible. As always, Leo made a great review. The best reviews on the net.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

@@Searchio Thank you so much for such amazing compliments and of course for sharing your experience!!!

[@nofilternoise]

And my Italian mates at IK multimedia wins again with solid hardware and continuos improvement via software and yes, last but not least: free updates. (listen Kemper)

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and thank you for sharing!

[@FrancescoManni91]

Ciao Leo, ottimo test come sempre. I profili ampero sembrano validi, sarà possibile profilare anche overdrive che tu sappia?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Grazie mille! Si, si possono profilare anche OD e distorsioni!

[@cheleskecastanedo3600]

Hi Leo ! Cool video and nice song as always ! I just have a doubt. Which Ampero are you comparing ? First appears one with a pedal and in your two cents is the one without a pedal.

[@cheleskecastanedo3600]

I mean volume pedal

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Ampero 2 and Ampero Stage....as they are the same in terms of profiling features. Thanks!

[@cheleskecastanedo3600]

Thanks a lot, Leo !!!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome!

[@Da7idSco]

What a song! Super top.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much....when you like my music....I'm super happy!!!

[@MylatestfantasyMusicComposer]

Hello leo amazing video again have you heard about nexus from nembrini? Its what im using these days its a software where you can mix all your plugins it also incopore scene amazingly I use mercurial for amp x8 oversampling + an ir loader where i mix 3 irs and i had a 2 delay pan on left and right + a reverb Cheers

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you for sharing! I didn't hear about the Nembrini .... I will check it out, where I know Mercurial...and it's amazing. Thank you!

[@dheranYT]

Great comparison. I would give it a little more complete approach though. I'd tweak bass, mid and treble, to see how much liquid profiles behave different settings. Hotone seems to be there. I'd like to see a more musical comparison, in order to see if any of us is able to distinguish what null tests numbers say.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you, I'm happy that you like the video! Thank you also for your suggestions. In the more sound section there is the null test with the gain and the treble halved, and you have the demo song for the more musical contest...maybe I can remove the drums and bass, to just hear the guitars. Thanks!

[@dheranYT]

The video is great. As it's your playing... Always stunning. I was referring to additionally tweak more the tone stack. I'm aware that that would increase a lot the duration and complexity of the video, though. Fantastic, anyway.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

I see! Thank you and I'm really happy that you appreciate the video and the playing!! Yes...the length would increase...I will think about it

[@wernerotti6712]

Thank you !

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome!

[@emmancastillo8679]

Tonex reigns supreme with the Ampero coming close to it. You are the best Leo!!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing and thank you for that nice compliment!

[@mehegama]

the demo songs are just beautiful!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, when you like my music...I'm super happy!!!

[@hannesganahl6384]

Thank you! Learning for me: The two expensive Neural DSP and Kemper products don't hold up!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and thank you for sharing!

[@PickcutStudios]

Thank you again Leo

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome!!!

[@Obssy]

Leo, have you ever tried to capture a plugin? It could be an interesting video. Maybe you could show us how to do it and some of the results with these modelers/profilers.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, actually I never did it... It's kind of strange for me to profile a plugin which is a replica of an amp....I have to think about it. Thank you for your suggestion!

[@Obssy]

@@LeoGibsonGtr You would be surprised how many people would want that. If you remember, one of the biggest selling points of the Quad Cortex was that you will be able to load plugins and use them live. So in a way, capturing a plugin would achieve what Neural DSP has been trying to deliver for years. At least it would be an interesting experiment.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for your suggestion! I will see what I can do....

[@kris5645]

@@Obssy There are tone captures of Neural plugins in Ampero II community downloads.

[@JudgeFredd]

Hopefully there is Leo to clear things for us ! Tx Leo !

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much and I'm happy to help!!!

[@anc2242]

It would be nice to do a video comparing the different Ampero units

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Yes, good idea....I will think about it. Thank you!

[@anc2242]

@@LeoGibsonGtr Thank you Leo

[@TiegoMartingtr]

Muito obrigado pelo vídeo, seus vídeos são os melhores do KZbin!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!

[@davidrensa3702]

Hi Leo, if I'm being honest, the signal to noise ratio of the nano during the envelope test was even better thsn the real SLO, and during the null test, my ears told me the Ampero had the loudest bass response. I expected you to tell us the Ampero was in the -20s for sure on the LUFS. Are my ears THAT bad? Lol Thank you always for great detailed reviews. Dave

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome! Thank you for sharing your findings... everyone has his own experience...and that's why I try to provide you also with some raw riffs....there is no wrong or right...but just what each of us prefer

[@rutger4131]

If the nano has a better signal to noise than the Soldano, it took something away / filtered something out. Which could be beneficial for the user, but it makes it less accurate.

[@davidrensa3702]

@@rutger4131Yes I get that as well, just not sure how important that particular difference is…lol

[@leonbrownmusic]

Big question is how easy is it to get third party profiles for the Ampero vs other units?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, it's pretty easy. I'm working on a package of profiles for the Ampero...and I have tried to download and upload profiles...it's easy. Thanks!

[@leffivanov3127]

Have you heard if Ampero Stomp II will be upgraded to have profiling stuff available, or this feature will be only for Stage and Ampero II?

[@nunolance23]

also curious about this!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

The Stomp does not have the XLR input...therefore I don't think it will be able to create profiles, but maybe it can load them.

[@АндрейПолевой-я5и]

​@@LeoGibsonGtr To create profiles it can use standard jack input or use digital signal, for example from PC

[@john1guitar]

Hotone emailed a member of a Facebook group about the Amperos, they said that they have plans to add tone capture to the Ampero II Stomp as well, but there is no release date yet for that happen

[@nunolance23]

@@LeoGibsonGtr ohh that's so unfortunate.. that would make it the perfect unit for me - similar to a Nano Cortex/Kemper but with the option to also use amp models and not so limited in terms of effects

[@wilmathewisp8252]

In a blind test, the differences no longer matter. I hardly hear any that matter to me. Different guitars and playing techniques have a greater influence on the sound than these devices.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing!

[@towerpower]

Wow!! I must admid I did not expect that! My initial assumption was that it would be the worst considering that the ampero is a "budget" device and the others more like "pro" gear. I own an ampero stage 2 and I made the informed decision to buy it knowing (thinking!?) it was not the best but that relative to its pricing would be the "good enough" choice to accomodate my needs. Now, just the fact that it is adding profiling for free, I would have been happy to hear that the profiling is decent even if it would have been the worst of the 4 devices, but seeing that it is up there with the big boys is quite a happy surprise. I get the impression that if we sum up the functionalities of the device as of today, the ampero seems to be the best overall device now. Is that possible?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing. I would say that the best device is the one that fits better your needs...if the Ampero meets all your requirements....

[@adrianjems7443]

I am waiting for the headrush also . Please if u have a chance to do a test , it would be blessing leo .. cheers

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you Adrian. I'm actually not a fan of Headrush units....maybe if Headrush will send me a unit to test I will change my mind... Thanks!

[@tobiasbales]

Thanks for doing all of this work! Out of curiosity - have you tried a null test on the SLO100 with a 2 recording (reamped) of the SLO100? I am just wondering if that actually comes out dead even or not

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome! Yes, I did it....with a Friednan and not a Soldano....but the concept is the same: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJWTYZRoq81pfJo

[@nunolance23]

Great video!! Do you know which Ampero II models will have the capture technology? Is it only the Stage? Or will also the Ampero II Stomp have it?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you so much!! I guess the units able to profile are those with XLR input, which are the Ampero II and the Stage....maybe all the units will able to load profiles. Thank you

[@nunolance23]

I have also took the time to question the guys in Hotone about this and I got a reply saying that they do have a plan to add the Tone Catch to Ampero II Stomp in the future updates! I wonder if they will release a new unit or make it able to capture or just load already created captures? We’ll see..

[@henrykc3]

I am waiting for Ampero II revue with vocal mic, as singing guitarist it could be for me. I am curious what effects I can have for vocal, harmonies?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

I have done a video using the Ampero for vocals and guitar....As I'm singing, I'm bit afraid of releasing it....😀...maybe in the coming weeks...

[@henrykc3]

@@LeoGibsonGtr I hope 😀

[@heoftheunlight]

great one!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much!

[@jcugnoni]

Holy s.. the addition of profiles to Ampero is an amazing news. Do you have a video on the capture and profiling process?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

I do agree....I'm working on something similar. Thanks you!

[@IvanEinstein]

@LeoGibsonGtr if possible a video showing a DI full rig tone capture of another modeler like line 6 meaning boost+amp+cab or even just amp+cab.

[@diecinuevemx]

Interesting. Definitely these are good times to be a guitarrista. I believe you could have added any of the Mooer GE series with tone capture like the GE250/300/300 or the Mooer Preamp live.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thanks! Yes, but if I remember it well the Mooer GE labs works only on tablet, therefore I would need a different audio interface and to make all the connections again...and having a different audio interface, the results would be no comparable. Thanks

[@diecinuevemx]

@@LeoGibsonGtr Hi Leo! Thank you for your reply. I'm talking about the units, not the GELabs app. The GE250, GE300, GE300lite and the Mooer Preamp Live all come with a Tone Capture feature in their units. It was advertised years ago but it didn't get much attention from the market.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

I did some videos a long ago. The feature inside the units is more kind of an equaliser, where the real profiler is inside the GE Labs app. Thanks!

[@diecinuevemx]

@@LeoGibsonGtr Got it. Still, I think it'll be interesting to compare it to the other units to see how close the ge250 can get to the others.

[@zajefajnylogin]

How convenient is it to make profiles on Ampero? Can you use two profiles in series, one for drive and one for amp?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, it's pretty easy....I think yes, but I have to do further testing. Thank you!

[@samuelurenagonzalez6875]

I would like to purchase Ampero stage II, But seeig the new unit Ampero II which one do you recommend?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

It depends on your needs, for instance if you need the exp pedal, get the Ampero II, if you need more foot switches get the Stage....they differences are mainly in the form factor

[@marciosaccani]

Hi Leo... I'm r fan. Please let us have this ampero capture

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, I'm preparing a package with my Ampere profiles. Thank you so much!!!

[@nv8505]

That tune was excellent! Minor differences in quality. You could pair any of these top tier amp sims with an FX unit. But what is the best stand alone FX unit to pair with these stand alone amp modelers? Example: I am using a NANO CORTEX with the HX EFFECTS and line 6 expression pedal. The combo is compact with great amp tones and an all in one fx unit. I would like to know if you have compared stand alone FX units and what amount of foot switches is practical on these compact units that bundle fx?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, I'm happy that you like the song!!! I have done this video where I pair different units to each profiler: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sF7GYmekjMumaqc It's not exactly what you are asking for...but there are some info

[@nv8505]

@@LeoGibsonGtr I think this is the next big conversation regarding affordable compact high end digital guitar rigs and fx tones solutions . An All in one digital amp box paired with an all in on FX box plus expression pedal. Thanks!

[@andrezcabara2774]

Just downloaded the manual for the Ampero II. It says nothing about captures. Not only that, but it also mentions "Bluetooth" in the Contents section going nowhere... There's also no "Beta" download.

[@321hp]

Beta firmware is in the website forum, under the official release section

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

the beta is on the Hotone web site

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Yes, exactly!

[@andrezcabara2774]

​@@321hp I do see "Ampero II Stage Beta Firmware B1.2.5 Released" from July with the new "Tone Catch" feature, nothing for the new "Ampero II". Leo showed the new Ampero II images (not the Ampero II Stage) so I assumed we're talking about the new Ampero II (the one with the pedal). ... Ah, at the end Leo is holding the "Ampero II Stage"... so I assume he used the new Tone Catch feature. Do we know this features makes it to the new "Ampero II" (the one with the pedal)?

[@321hp]

@@andrezcabara2774 i don’t own the Ampero II, but i’m guessing that it comes with the tone catch feature from the factory.

[@kris5645]

In the null test the Kemper had the spike on 20k, maybe aliasing issue? Would need to do a low pass to get rid of it.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing....yes, it could be aliasing.

[@MrPhotomiked]

Hi Leo, could you run some comparisons against real amps with the Poly Ample? How closely can it behave like so many real amps (56) when settings are changed given that only one capture for each amp is provided? Do they use a similar tech like the kemper liquid capture with each featured amp?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, it’s for sure interesting , but I don’t have the Poly. Of course if they send me a unit I will be happy to test it. Thanks!

[@Freddekaddeth]

Question, How do you capure with the Ampero?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

There is a specific procedure to to the capture....I think I'm make a video about it...it's very similar to the Kemper procedure!

[@Freddekaddeth]

@@LeoGibsonGtr Looking forward to it.

[@ncarpios]

GRACIAS LEO! ONe question: I thought the tests were done with the new Ampero 2, not the 2 stage. If so, is the profiling software equally good in the 2 and the 2 stage? How do their softwares compare?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Ampero 2 = Ampero Stage, same converters same xlr in … etc. Thanks

[@ncarpios]

@@LeoGibsonGtr Thank you! So no difference in latency or effects?

[@Newprodintown]

Simply the best , i have a GP200 for live , do you think i have to change it? I got a different stuff for recording. Mi servo di plugin con il mio sansamp psa-1 ,é a casa da 20 anni fa hahaha.... Et j'ai le genome le tonex et pas mal de neural dsp pour enregistrer ... Bravo encore , ei tue testi are the best.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos! The GP200 uses the same algorithms of the Ampero...it misses the profiling procedure...therefore if you need it....get the Ampero. Thanks!

[@DebowyMocny]

I’m a little confused. Thumbnail shows the new Ampero 2 but at the end you hold Ampero 2 Stage. So this was a test of Ampero 2 Stage right? You captured the amps with Ampero 2 Stage?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, it’s the same

[@Vectarium]

Thank you so much for the information! :) Tell me please. If you do a Nano Cortex "capture" of the amplifier via a plug-in on a PC that has a 2ms delay. Will the delay in "capture" remain or will it be cut off?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome! Well...interesting question...I guess it is cut off from the real profile, as the neural network should aligned the original signal to the capture one, therefore removing the "latency". If the latency was included...the original signal and the capture one would be OUT of phase...and therefore the profile would be wrong. Thank you

[@Vectarium]

Thanks for the answer! I think about the same thing) Спасибо за ответ!

[@tonepilot]

Seems the LUFS numbers get better towards the end as the signal decreases in dB. Am I correct?