Dial Tonex In To PERFECTION Using THIS NEW Feature!

[@duncancartledge1667]

You’ve put a massive amount of work into Tonex since it came out but over the last few weeks you have really excelled. So much useful information. Also really appreciate that you are not saying there is only 1 way to set things up but giving alternatives. Thanks for all you do 👍

[@JasonSadites]

Thanks so much Duncan :-) Totally my pleasure!

[@StoneXue]

You easily have the most beneficial ToneX content out there thank you good stuff

[@JasonSadites]

Thanks so much for the kind words and really glad you enjoy the videos :-)

[@nnnownow]

Miles ahead of anyone else, thank you Jason

[@AlVixan]

Thanks a lot for the custom DIs, this is such a time-saving present from you!!!

[@jessecantrell]

been watching a lot of videos and yours are the most in depth. IK owes you a ton.

[@disistheway2010]

IK really need to revisit those demos for each tones. I’ve always thought they sounded way off compared to what I was hearing (and my set up is exactly what it should be). Glad you proved this is an issue!

[@robertturner1550]

Your videos are the best! Without your help I would have given up on the Tonex. I'm really starting to love it. Thank you for creating and sharing. ♥

[@redkurn]

probably one of the greatest contributions to tonex to date, been searching and searching for di files for this purpose, but didn't think to make them at certain levels. thank you!

[@JasonSadites]

Totally my pleasure and glad this was helpful :-)

[@hanovergreen4091]

You Sir, are a treasure. You do a lot of hard work we all benefit from. Thank You. Will pick up some TONEX packs later today as my way of saying Thanks! Best Regards and Best Wishes!

[@JasonSadites]

Thank you so much for the kind words, means a lot! Truly appreciate the support!

[@thomasadams9199]

I'll second that!

[@paulhaullussy8662]

As always: great work!!!!

[@JasonSadites]

Thank you so much and glad you enjoyed :-)

[@francoisbeausejour2382]

Thanks for the DI stuff, its is really appreciated. And all your work and clear explanations on Tonex is so helpfull!! Keep up the good work!

[@JasonSadites]

Totally my pleasure and glad you enjoyed the videos!

[@jjmonzon4343]

This is so incredibly useful! Thank you for giving this out for free!

[@JasonSadites]

Totally my pleasure, glad you found it helpful! 😄

[@limpeacock573]

Jason, thanks so much for all your hard work and support. These DI samples are fantastic and the Tonex community can’t thank you enough. Well done, Sir!

[@JasonSadites]

Totally my pleasure and glad you enjoyed :-)

[@AlexAlexAlexMartin]

Jason, thank you so much! Best regards from germany

[@JasonSadites]

My pleasure and glad you enjoyed! All the best :-)

[@quintinpace1541]

super clutch, amazing contribution to the musical community. I would not have the know how to do this, so thank you

[@JasonSadites]

Totally my pleasure and glad you enjoyed 🙂

[@nnnownow]

Pure legend status Jason :)

[@JasonSadites]

Ahh thank you for the kind words :-)

[@FendCore]

Didn't start to use my Tone X yet but already properly informed thanks to your channel... One of the first thing I've to do now is to create my own "Custom DI" with all my guitare and me playing my songs. And take a look at your PDF. Thank you. :)

[@saschdohrian80]

Thanks Jason. I tried following in Tonex Software: I put a 0.0dB Custom Di File from you in the player. I take a similar guitar and let the Input Gain of my Interface at the left position = zero ( Motu M4, has a max Input Gain of 16dBu) . Then I preamp the signal to +16dB via a software preamp or the input gain control of the Interface before tonex and now I will get a similar tone with my guitar as when playing the custom DI file. I don't know if this can be explained logically but it works for me

[@uluiepra]

То есть по сути, input trim трим должен быть настройкой в плагине на ПК, чтоб была возможность уже представлять как что будет на педали. Либо DI который будет ориентирован на гитару личную. Например + 3 Но тогда снимков будет очень много) Значит кнопка gain будет усиление входящего сигнала input trim. ) Очень верю, в снимке скоро будет несколько вариантов из реального сьема звуков. Потому что сейчас это по сути снимок + эквализация. Но видимо, тогда педаль Tonex сможет иметь один снимок усилителя с 40 вариантами реальных положений 😂 Спасибо за работу - очень познавательно.

[@JehmzGo]

Hi Jason, great tutorial as always. Pardon my noob question. How do you do Send (instrument) then Return (Line) from HX stomp? I cant seems to find the separate knob for the Send/Return in HX stomp. I see one knob and thats for both.

[@Aletheia_Z]

How do we know when is +0, -3.5 or +8 in the ToneX One?

[@JasonSadites]

Check this video here and you will see how it works. Hope that helps :-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2HTZqdrm55kZ6Msi=WmFA-yLW-J7LnGMG&t=192

[@AdamHumburg]

Super useful custom DI tips, thanks! I was hoping you would describe the difference between the clean, drive and hi-gain samples. What are they about? Did you go through your drive stages on your pedal board to get those? Thanks!

[@JasonSadites]

My pleasure :-) The Clean, Drive etc. are just to sort through the tone models. It searches based off of how the tone model creator tagged the tone model for organization purposes. Hope that helps :-)

[@MauroMartins-c4x]

Jason your videos are great! Could you make a video using the Tonex One as a clean Amp and Cab and the Tonex Pedal as overdrive pedals? I'm trying to create this setup but I'm having difficulties especially in relation to the gain stage. I don't know if the Tonex Pedal is in the best configuration for pedals and I also don't know if the Tonex One is in the best way to receive these pedals through the Tonex Pedal. Maybe some musicians have the same doubts. Cheers from Brazil!

[@caiolucas5012]

Any information about how much i have to put input trim for Boss Gt1000core?

[@guitaristslash2711]

Great video thanks very much.. just a silly question sorry, can you please explain why the 'dirty' di recordings would not sound good on a clean amp preset? I assume all the di recordings would be 'clean/raw'? Or is it just becaue of the style of riff you played?

[@papeleriasanignacio3282]

ithis is just AWESOME !! Ty

[@JasonSadites]

@@papeleriasanignacio3282 totally my pleasure!

[@JasonSadites]

Thank you and so glad you enjoyed :-)

[@franksykes1558]

Thank you!!

[@MrDfleca]

Hi friend, what would be the best input trim value, I use the Focusrite Saffire Pro 14?

[@TMFJ983]

When I use imported IR s the volume goes way up compared to the stock IR. Why?

[@reverb.deluxe]

Thanks for figuring this out. I always wondered how they could make such a good product and yet have these crappy audition samples.

[@andriiantonenko5790]

Perfect, thanks!

[@JasonSadites]

My pleasure :-)

[@Richard-c5q6v]

Great job Jason

[@JasonSadites]

Thank you so much :-)

[@javieroldan]

Thank you very much for your efforts in trying to unveil the nuances and tricks related to the Tonex pedal, they are really useful! However I'm a bit lost since I've tried for example the provided Custom DI Strat samples @0.0 dB and when played in the Tonex App they sound with way much gain than if I try to play the same riff with my guitar in the Tonex Pedal with my Strat (American Ultra with noiseless hot pickups) and with an Input Trim aligned with your samples, that is, adjusted to 0. I need to increase the Input Trim to more than 10 (or the gain a lot in the pedal) in order to get the same amount of gain to my ears. I'm trying with some edge to breakup tones since they are for me easier to make tests (they are just in the middle of a clean and crunch sound). What am I missing?

[@Mario666Heartless]

Awesome, thanx a lot!

[@JasonSadites]

@@Mario666Heartless my pleasure 🙂

[@MrDfleca]

Hello friend, what would be the best input trim for me, I use the Focusrite Saphire Pro 14

[@gustavoloebel]

hello, Jason has a video explaining how to set trim properly, in general you should set TRIM low as 0, (I use mine in 3) so it can accomodate any guitar with quality for recording and live.

[@joshsnyder2181]

Does anyone know if there's a way to increase the overall *output* of the Tonex pedal? I've found that even when I run it through my Headrush FRFR 112 via DI box, although it gets loud-ish, even maxed at 10 it's nowhere near as loud as other modelers going through the same FRFR speaker.

[@Clagratte]

Thanks for your help. I have one question because something is driving me nuts : i'm trying to use the tonex one to test sounds in tonex one se. I know that i must use it in bypass mode, the problem is that even in bypass mode the pedal is adding a huge amount of gain, i tried to set every single parameter (input trim, global volume, gain...) but this does not fix anything (it's bypassed it should not have such a gain??) this make the test of the presets really anoying because once i have my preset saved in my pedal i'm not having the same amount of volume

[@moejoe4654]

Thanks Jason for including the Ultralite mk5. like you said it has a very high headroom (+24dbu on the front inputs), I usually leave the input level in Cumix at 0 because I don"t want to boost my guitars signal before it hits the virtual amps. but the closest I get to the character and level of your DI is if I dial in +8 DB on the interface input and +8 (whatever the unit) in Tonex Software input. which make no sense to me. do you mind sharing your settings since you have the Motu Ultralite MK5?

[@JasonSadites]

My pleasure! So MOTU does not actually publish the specs of the Hi-Z Instrument input. As you mention the spec states max. input of 24 dBu for the Line input. I measured the instrument input myself and set at minimum gain I get a reading of approx. 19 dBu max input for the Hi-Z Instrument input. So when I us it I always have it set to +8 dB on the Instrument input which then gives it it 11 dBu of headroom and puts it in line with how I run all of my Instrument inputs. In fact, when I shoot my videos the MOTU Ultralite Mk. 5 is the interface I use. So when you hear Tonex in my videos, you are hearing the guitar plugged into that input with the +8 dB added as previously mentioned. Hope that helps :-)

[@moejoe4654]

@@JasonSadites It helps very much, the difference is probably due to my low output pickups on my Tele, I did not try my other guitars yet. thank you 👍

[@Allann882]

Man you are channel could be called TonexRadio😂

[@JasonSadites]

Hahaha. LOL

[@dasfette]

Great video and greatly appreciated! Could you please elaborate on what you mean by "all at minimum gain unless stated otherwise" when referring to audio interfaces? For example, I run a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 3rd Gen into ToneX via my desktop. There's an input trim on each line-in with the ability to choose between instrument and line level. For guitar, obviously setting it to instrument level. However, there are no reference marks on the input trim. Thus, what is the best way to set that to a consistent "minimum gain"?

[@JasonSadites]

Thank you and glad you enjoyed :-) "minimum gain" here means to keep the gain knob on the Instrument Input to the lowest setting. Hope that helps!

[@dasfette]

@@JasonSadites Gotcha. So, if I'm understanding correctly, said another way: Per your PDF, and all things equal, a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Gen 4 will be 4.0 - 4.5 dB hotter/louder than a TONEX Pedal at the "same" settings.

[@666walshinator]

I bought some high gain packs that sound really good on my computer but sound lame when I connect it to my live rig.,It either sounds lame or if I up the gain and adjust input trim it feedback like crazy.Unusable .How can I get my live tone to be as good as the computer.i've done all the trim in stuff that you outlines in your vids but still is not good.I'm almost ready to give up on this thing.Please help if you can

[@JoeAmaral427]

I have my Tonex going into my HX stomp via send and return and controlled or trying to be controlled via Midi. Volume is so low (yes, volumes are turned up) I need to use a gain pedal before. I gave my first Tonex to a friend as a gift (he is a worship leader). Then after some time, I want to try it again, wasted money!!!

[@swardmusic]

How do i get the app to work. Cant login. V annoying lol

[@carloswhomusic]

Too many players expect instant amazing tones from the PRESETS .... with no effort or adjustments. That's not gonna happen. EVERY PRESET needs adjustment before it works for you and your guitar, sorry. THANKS for your great content Jason.

[@guitarmatheus7sirius]

muito interessante suas observaçoes, eu creio que voce poderia ajudar muit eles, voce deveria mandar pra eles corrigirem , estes detalhes sutis que sim atrapalham a qualidade do produto, voce escuta gosta , vai transportar para o pedal muda tudo a sonaridade,

[@nevesnow]

in the latest open version, it was only saying 44.1khz, now must be 16bit? I've recorded my custom stuff in 24bit 44.1khz and worked fine :)

[@JasonSadites]

That is good to know and glad it works :-)

[@FunkyELF]

That list of input trim to audio interfaces at minimum gain?... Forgive me asking but I don't understand why this is useful. Who uses their audio interface at minimum gain? Don't most people play as loud as they can while turning up the gain until it clips, then you back it off a bit? So does minimum gain mean 0? I have a 3rd gen Focusrite 4i4 and it doesn't have any labels, do I just assume 12 O'Clock?

[@iursnitram]

All the way down is zero.

[@CharLessMajor7Music]

Most amp sim companies such as neural dsp recommends it to minimum gain(0). So most people likely uses minimum gain nowadays after that video circulating around about interface gain on most amp sims..

[@yacreader]

what’s “back it off a bit”? shouldn’t we be using measurable methods for setting up our gain? don’t we want to have the exact same input level when we plug a specific guitar? And don’t we want to have different input levels depending on different guitars so we can truly use the characteristics(output) of their pickups?

[@TimsonThunder]

What I never understood about Tonex is: Why adjust the inputtrim to a variable setting on an interface? Why did they not make a fixed setting for input trim on the pedal and make you adjust the ingoing signal on your interface to match the pedal? That way every capture would have the same startingpoint 🤷🏻‍♂️. And if you buy a pack you are not wondering what the "capturer" had in mind.

[@yacreader]

So….what’s the point of the default sound samples? Why is IK using that level if that’s not how the model is supposed to work/sound? IK multimedia has the best capture technology and then they do things like this and have all their clients scratching their head. The truth is that we don’t know how their models are supposed to sound like because they don’t provide any information that would allow us to do a proper calibration of our signals…

[@MostlyElectrolytes]

Not to keep beating this horse, but I never understood the idea of adjusting the input trim/gain based on guitar. That's not how the real equipment works. A Stratocaster is supposed to be lower output than a Les Paul...why have different guitars if you are trying to get them to all sound the same (or in that case unrealistic)? Adjust the gain or add a boost or if you want adjust the input trim/gain, but realize that it's a capability and not a problem.

[@JasonSadites]

I could not agree more! I have never understood the fascination with constantly changing the levels. Set it once with enough headroom for all your guitars and leave it alone. Great comment!

[@RichiAtlanticWind]

Totally agree. Just recently I watched a video from The Studio Rats that showed a "trick" to make the Tele and the Les Paul sound similar by using a compressor before the Tonex Pedal and I was like... but why then change guitars? You want different guitars for different sounds. Not make all guitars get the same amount of distortion from the tone model regardless of the output of the guitar. A real amp would react completely different to different guitars and that's what you want.

[@rhoydotp]

while I agree with you, I also understand why people want to do this. since it’s digital device, the option of getting the perfect setting for the individual guitar should easily be possible. not saying right or wrong but it does make sense in some level.

[@RichiAtlanticWind]

@@rhoydotp and it is easily possible. Just adjust the gain on the preset for the guitar you are going to use and leave the input trim alone. No need for complicated setups or adding a compressor pedal in front.

[@iursnitram]

It's a bit like people who pick EQ presets on their phones based on the music genre instead of using the EQ to fix the headphone's response.

[@누노기타]

😅

[@VanjaSpirin]

Well it makes things pretty user unfriendly. It needs audio engineering skils to get a simple tone. And your changes are way too fast, and this vid is not usable because of that. Make it slower and simple, man. This is not simple at all.