Leonardo Showcase - Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl

[@YoyIeCake]

GameMill: Spongebob, it's Tuesday! You know what that means, time for another showcase. Spongebob: Yes honey

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

Spongebob is a punching bag in all of these

[@jyoster6447]

@@admiralAlfonso9001 I mean, you can't ask for a better damage sponge then an actual sponge.

[@eliseoclaro7535]

Brodie Lee reference?

[@FrostedMike]

Flats tried to beat him and failed. Of course Spongebob is perfect for the job.

[@dragonball4ever2009]

SpongeBob doesn't feel pain, he just gets knocked back cause he's so lightweight

[@matthewrec7543]

The person who made Leonardo moveset is a genius his moves are literally references to his attacks in some of the TMNT games

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

I agree they really studied to make these characters

[@AnthonyMtheGamerArtist]

@TheLateShowGuy The pizza and skateboard stuff is Mikey’s thing.

[@austynwiles5414]

No offense but Leo looks like he has a very basic moveset. Hopefully Mikey is more creative.

[@matthewrec7543]

Don't worry Mikey's moveset is creative because his moveset is more based around the 80s show

[@austynwiles5414]

@@matthewrec7543 that's good just so far my biggest complaint with this game is that some characters movests look very boring, not bad just uninspired and limited like Leo could've been swapped with any dual swordsmen and nothing would change.

[@DrGandW]

I like how he’s like, “you’ve seen enough of these let’s go faster”

[@TheWaverunners]

To be fair, Leo's moves arent as crazy looking as the other characters we've seen so far. That's not a bad thing, obviously, especially since a lot of those moves reference past TMNT games.

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GOTTA GO FAST

[@indigo_sirgaming]

Yeah I feel like some of the transitions/cuts were a little bit too quick. Still a great presentation though.

[@Bread-kun]

​@Lopez I mean its not a bad thing to have a few more "standard" feeling characters, not everyone needs to be super unique. It's good to have a couple very simple to learn characters. His gimmick is being the sword fighter of the game.

[@frozezone2947]

@@Bread-kun At least he's the only sword fighter game unlike the other platform fighting game

[@realsanmer]

If this game ends up having alts, the turtles having their different designs from the shows, like 2012 and Rise, would be awesome.

[@TheArmandHammer]

I'm the boxart you can see Leo wearing actual ninja gear instead of colored pads

[@ngcwiz1755]

Wish it was 2012 turtles instead. Game too biased to older fans but its whatever

[@cpmc1164]

@@ngcwiz1755 the devs were the reason the turtles look like that not nick

[@lutherheggs451]

The 2012 Turtles and the god awful Rise designs would make more sense than the 1987 Turtles whom Nick is not at all known for since the original show was on NBC.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

@@lutherheggs451 so you just hate the designs because there realistic?

[@einootspork]

I like that all the showcases before this one were from comedy shows, so their attacks were all wacky and over-the-top, and then for Leonardo it's just like "he uses swords"

[@chrissalazarm]

We went from "he barfs a wooden log" to "he spins"....kind of lackluster

[@hopefulfriend4163]

That's Leo for ya. Rise Leo was good tho.

[@unskilledgamer3642]

He may look like a generic swordfighter, but that doesn't mean he's not effective.

[@crimsonstormsurge]

Ikr

[@ChargeQM]

These attack names are super dry too. Fits Leo like a glove. He was sorta bland compared to the others anyway (and was my favorite regardless)

[@TheRealMew2king]

Long Sword character!! :'D Making a breakdown of him asap! (On mvgleague).

[@tylerrawson290]

LETS GO M2K

[@imunoriginalokay4400]

NICE

[@mbabaneamputee7725]

LOLM2K

[@pajamalucas2090]

Sounds good Jason!

[@csg1lcolonel528]

WOOOOOO DISJOINTS

[@yummy_numnums]

These stages are sick, loving all the effort being put into them! It really looks like it makes the game way more alive and interesting to look at!

[@marryrobert9590]

Ik totally I don't know why but for some reason this stage and also April O'Neill stage reminds me of Electron Avenue and N Gin Labs and crash team racing Nitro fueled

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

This game is so EPIK!!!!!!!!

[@angryjadengamerreviews2827]

I like how the Background music is Sega Genesis like (I wonder if that's referencing The Hyperstone Heist or the Genesis version of Tournament Fighters)

[@watchamacALI]

Reference wise, yeah. But, some look like they'd be hell to actually play on. I got flashbacks of childhood trauma playing my cousins on pokefloats when I saw Ren & Stimpy's stage. 😱

[@marryrobert9590]

@@watchamacALI I know it's exactly like that stage from melee and it's definitely going to be banned from tournaments

[@CrispyGFX]

Smash players: "There are too many sword characters" Leonardo, with two swords:

[@gomichow]

Zoro in Jump Force Super Brawl All Star:

[@KidNamedKewlHam]

The only character I can think of that wields two swords is Lloyd

[@jeremiegaming3034]

Yeah!😂

[@InfiniteBits]

I don't want to spoil the game by knowing everyone's moveset... BUT I CAN'T STOP WATCHING THESE SHOWCASES MAKE MORE PLZ!!

[@Jack_Horner_is_a_hero]

I don't think knowing movesets will ruin the experience before hand. In fact I think they'll help you get a better grasp of who you would want to try out first

[@Jack_Horner_is_a_hero]

@@xtraveller8596 They haven't shown Lincoln yet

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

Oof

[@celenial6009]

@@Jack_Horner_is_a_hero some tryhards gonna be analyzing this shit like crazy

[@Jack_Horner_is_a_hero]

@@celenial6009 Let them, just because they analyze this doesn't mean they'll be right

[@nathanprice2514]

Of all the characters I’ve seen so far. Leo seems to be one of the most fun to play design wise. He fits the mold of the game super well and I appreciate the animations he has as well. Sucks that I’m a reptar main :/

[@DJinThaMatrix]

Just co-main. Leo probably covers some matchups too

[@tales9342]

He can be your secondary!

[@watchamacALI]

No tippers = no skill to master. Reptar will probably be a more skill based character and help you master the intricacies of the games playstyle more. You made the right choice. Let the babies get carried by Leo's huge constant hit boxes.

[@nathanprice2514]

@@watchamacALI babies?:( that’s mean bruh ahah it’s a nick game

[@kappadarwin9476]

@@watchamacALI Danny might be carry.

[@Protomorfid]

In only fourteen days I will be among the first Helga mains

[@jeckles]

We are legion

[@DrGandW]

I just wanna know if the offhand backhand is in there

[@jeckles]

@@DrGandW if you take everything we know so far, it would be completely off-brand for them to not have that in as a move.

[@djangorainbow]

good choice B)

[@Fisto64]

Helga mains rise up!

[@nimboss]

I still can't believe they added Endless Screw, a move from TMNT The Tournament Fighters for the SNES. That's just so awesome.

[@kalozalt]

Thats how you know the people behind this game care

[@bazzjedimaster]

Leo with endless screw and Mikey with rising thunder, I'm loving these references to TMNT tournament fighters

[@eliseo5416]

Mickey is in this? How did Nick get the rights to a Disney character?

[@ribsofmanhattan404]

I think he meant Mikey

[@seabass64]

mickey

[@bazzjedimaster]

@@eliseo5416 as Ribs said, I meant Mikey

[@KnightLineArtYT]

It's sick, and he has the dive kick from Turtles in Time too!

[@wreckless82mk90]

I'm excited for Leo, his moves seems simple and satisfying

[@unskilledgamer3642]

he gave me the same vibes as Marth did in Melee. all of his moves look like simple generic sword moves, but that doesn't mean they're not effective

[@wizardswine4621]

This character looks like somebody asked "what if we gave ZSS a sword?"

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

“It’s perfect, give him another”

[@EmblemLord]

They LITERALLY took Marth and injected him with steroids, mutagen, and chozo blood.

[@theoddronin1]

"Endless Screw"- Ah so they got one of his moves from TMNT Tournament Fighters as his up special? Sweet!!

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

Oh joy!

[@whoopingmuffin9700]

hearing leo's swords make a punch sound when hitting something gives me flashbacks to two worlds

[@Mariobro4]

Projared.

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

I do not like the sound design in the game but it will still be super duper fun

[@SnekNHide]

Devs said this will be patched day 1 don’t worry

[@blackwiiremote]

@@SnekNHide where was this said

[@sephirothone-wingedangel6484]

@@blackwiiremote their discord server

[@mrsteele-_-9612]

I love his stage music! And everything about him is so cool!

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

Epik B)

[@Zadck1]

He looks really good. Really big disjoints and seems relatively easy to play. And that backflip I can see some cool hijinks and retreats happening with. Seems like he will be a pretty simple but exciting character.

[@Dyleniz]

And doubles as a recovery mix up

[@zachatck64]

Heroes in a half shell! Turtle power!

[@goldenlightning8842]

They're the worlds most fearsome fighting team!!!

[@sonicsmash328]

We're really hip!

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

We’re heroes in a half shell and we’re green

[@sonicsmash328]

Hey, Get a grip!

[@richie404]

Leonardo's moveset looks good! And like the stage and Mondo Gecko in the background. The turtles have fought a lot in other games like: Finn and Jake, Rayman, Rabbids, Hellboy, Sub-Zero, Batman, Joker, Superman and now SpongeBob, Nigel Thornberry, Reptar, Danny Phantom, Ren and Stimpy and Zim.

[@notgabriel8624]

Rivaling Shovel Knight for most crossovers.. oh wait the turtles have fought him too!

[@marin9412]

Remember they were also fighting the DC heroes and villains in injustice 2

[@IcyDiamond]

So what you’re saying is canonically, we can have The Joker vs Azula vs Globox vs John Cena

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

@@IcyDiamond not kidding I want John Cena in the game

[@banjo9158]

when did they fought scorpion?

[@giovanniblanco4345]

Dude fought Subzero, Superman, and Spongebob and is still alive to tell the tale. What a chad!

[@JoThNoMi]

yes.

[@IcyDiamond]

Spongebob: *Exists* Nickelodeon Characters: And I took that personally

[@dead5908]

True

[@KazeShikamaru]

Lol

[@funkymunky6647]

I'm starting to think that Spongebob is gonna be the punching bag for this game, like Mario in Smash Bros

[@zollesilk2668]

He absorbs punches, so it only makes sense.

[@hopefulfriend4163]

That'll teach him to keep the reruns to himself.

[@kalozalt]

Marth/Link/Pit archetypes combined it sort of looks like. Really cool

[@Coolcults7892]

he also has a ZSS down B

[@kachosuffer7]

@@Coolcults7892 oh hell naw

[@yan_dj]

@@Coolcults7892 More like mii brawler, backflip, hit the button again, divekick

[@cy_pher]

Weird how the swords make punching sounds lol

[@niro1_]

One of the devs just confirmed that it'll be fixed in the day 1 patch. i.imgur.com/1TdqWW2.png

[@angryjadengamerreviews2827]

I love how the Sewer stage music sounds like a Sega Genesis game (Maybe referencing Hyperstone Heist) anyway I'm maining Leonardo Leo is awesome

[@eduardpeeterlemming]

These showcases are blessing

[@immanuelharden3508]

They gave a sword character flipkick?!! Well, I know who I'm maining

[@digitalunity]

Burning through the roster at an astounding pace! We might get all the showcases with time to spare!

[@anthonyperreira3640]

14 more days till release, and they've already done 6 showcases so far, out of 20 characters, so wouldn't be surprised if they released some everyday from now on!! I really wanna see how my boy Zim plays...

[@sodapup83]

I think this stage has my favorite music in the game. Such a banger!

[@danyalshaikh1478]

It just keeps getting better

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

Oh boy

[@Daeneras]

I’m so happy they didn’t mess him up since he seems to be the only sword fighter in the base roster

[@cliffthepig4576]

Smash should take notes because there are MILLIONS of them in that roster

[@f.o.8547]

@@cliffthepig4576 how many are there actually?

[@tiesdijkmans]

Michaelangelo is in there too

[@kachosuffer7]

@@f.o.8547 not as many as that guy thinks lol

[@psyguyyggdrasil9071]

@@f.o.8547 like 13

[@cptmacmillan1111]

If there are costumes for the turtles, I wish all 4 of them would have their 2003 look/design as an alternative.

[@jeremyriley1238]

As well as their 2012 looks.

[@drkslyr666]

It be cool to have other series show up in the background of the stage. Just imagine the rocket power crew skating in the sewers!

[@JuanFranco-mq7js]

or just make Otto Rocket playable...

[@theshadowspider97]

Ewww. What human would ever want to skateboard in a sewer?

[@JuanFranco-mq7js]

@@theshadowspider97 me.

[@aidanmonner2225]

So….PlayStation All-Stars

[@jinoratheairnomad9777]

That would seem weird to me. The whole point is that each character has their own stage, and that wouldn’t make sense if the game had other random series in the background.

[@TheArmandHammer]

Finally, a character that I actually wanted to see how they work. Hopefully Danny Phantom's showcase comes soon 🤩🤩🤩

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

He’s a phantom

[@TallTapper]

He's a

[@magicsack]

He's

[@Conellu]

He

[@TeamStudNation1280]

@@Conellu H

[@dragonmaster0851]

Saw April’s showcase but I didn’t think we were gonna get two showcases in one day

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

Maybe Mikeys will come today too? :D

[@rican93]

What happened to April's? I saw it on a different KZbin channel, but how come Gamemill didn't have it on their channel?

[@matthewrose4797]

That's good at least they're getting the Spongebob and TMNT characters out of the way

[@yoastertoaster8306]

@@rican93 Polygon didn't upload it to KZbin -_-

[@SquidwardProfilePic]

Aw yes Leonardo’s most famous signature move “running hit”

[@dguy8804395]

Lol didnt try at all with the names

[@phoebeaurum7113]

@@dguy8804395 The sillier the attack the better name it has.

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

This game would be dead without it

[@the_exxtra1425]

This stage's theme is so chill. Love it!!

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

3:10

[@dannylmaoooo]

someone was really creative in coming up with names of the moves.

[@Wildcatt1999]

Finally, a showcase of one the characters I plan on maining! And I got to say Leo looks really fun! Hopefully we'll see a Danny Phantom, and Lincoln Loud showcase soon.

[@seanr.6498]

"Aerial Scissor Slash Down" is peak attack naming.

[@thephantomsplit]

Let's go! We got Leonardo's showcase!

[@scufflingboogaloo5006]

You should change the hit sound effects on leo. It's weird hearing a slap sound effect when he hits you with a sword. Also please add Donatello. Thank you.

[@IcyDiamond]

Yeah they definitely need to improve the sound effects in this game imo

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

The game is good but not very good game design

[@handsmcgee8331]

Yes Donnie but let’s not forget Raph too!

[@djdragondrawer9339]

Lmao, they put in April before Donnie or Raph. I would've even taken Splinter, I would've LOVED Splinter over April. Waste of a character slot imo, so lame

[@handsmcgee8331]

@@djdragondrawer9339 It seems like they added April because she’s also gonna be playable in the new tmnt shredders revenge game. Probably promoting her with this game

[@luishuerta9017]

I love that they used one of his moves from Turtles Tournament Fighters.

[@blueblade1948]

Gotta love my mans Leo, definitely Playing with him when the game comes out

[@ABC-ik9vj]

Shut up gaycha life

[@andre-da-gamer]

Can the developers please find a way to add costumes to the game like SpongeBob wearing his Band Uniform from the sweet victory episode

[@M4TTYN]

not needed but they can cool.

[@jadentellis7475]

Luv you guys work

[@SquidwardProfilePic]

This is the first song I’ve heard in this game that doesn’t make me wanna blow my head off

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

The jellyfish fields one was very bad! The game still looks cool but I don’t like most the music besides Catdogs and this

[@Keygentlemen]

I think April's is pretty good as well.

[@SnekNHide]

@@admiralAlfonso9001 what? Jellyfish fields was a bop

[@jinoratheairnomad9777]

I like Ren And Stimpy’s

[@SolarFarle]

This brings back TMNT: Smash Up memories.

[@TwitchVO]

I knew there would be someone else who remembers.

[@LucarioShirona]

I sure remember that game! Too bad that Nick’s Sewer stage theme isn’t as high energy as TMNT: Smash Up’s Turtle Base theme.

[@DoctorMario606]

That game was so fun

[@SuperNintendoGameboy]

I like the stage music here. It gives off TMNT Arcade game vibes

[@SirRaymundo28]

this is going to be definitly Top Tier

[@nimbus7727]

Wasn’t expecting them to give Sheik a couple of katanas. This is heckin scary.

[@unskilledgamer3642]

Sheik? You mean the guy that shows up, plays a harp and leaves without doing anything useful?

[@dragonft.12]

Leonardo Is literally nickelodeon Sephiroth

[@LordHydreigon]

Blade Wielders are tricky to determine with their move sets. With Leo, it could be somewhere in between Low-High Tier, that’s all I can say

[@chaos_nightshade]

now THIS is the showcase I was waiting for, I really like the stage and the music too :D

[@AdamAtYourService]

This stage will be a counterpick, right? Leo himself looks like a classic Smash swordy.

[@csg1lcolonel528]

Might be better than Marth was in Melee tbh

[@Venom3254]

Tfw Leonardo's 1984 VA is the same as Corrin's.

[@M4TTYN]

how's a stage a counterpick?

[@cyberdude4]

I find it interesting they went with the classic turtle designs overs the ones from the Rise of the TMNT show which is on Nick.

[@julianiskool1255]

Hes literally the marth of this game

[@brrgames]

Anyone noticed Mondo Gecko and the Mousers at the back?

[@Captain_Bobvious]

These videos have shown me that not every attack needs a name.

[@isaiahyoung5377]

Endless Screw. Nice TMNT Tournament Fighters moveset reference.

[@_Tygon_]

That was really fast paced had to rewind to catch what he said a couple times lol. Leo looks dope though!

[@kodoy]

game looks cool but sound design needs a lot of work. hope they keep patching it after it releases, i'm assuming they put ludosity on a tight release schedule with minimal budget

[@moneykenny119]

They confirmed that Leo’s sound specifically will be fixed in a day 1 patch. Hope there’s more changes like that too

[@kodoy]

@@moneykenny119 cool, i didn't know. promising

[@M4TTYN]

"tight release with minimal budget" > has many known childhood IP's sorry if you weren't born for any of these shows on top i know don't need some crazy high budget but it's fine

[@kodoy]

@@M4TTYN what?

[@natertater301]

Spongebob when there's a new character showcase: *chuckles* I'm in danger

[@watchamacALI]

They shoulda just ripped the moveset of his TMNT Tournament Fighters (SNES version) variant. Having the spark throw projectile would help him a lot with the keep away game since his moves are so weak.

[@Dogyphil]

I can't wait to see this game at EVO

[@M4TTYN]

wish sony didn't keep EVO alive worst move ever.

[@MrYee-xf6ze]

Dang, first April and now Leonardo. They are really speeding things up.

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

Gotta go pretty quick

[@theshadowspider97]

@@admiralAlfonso9001 Yeah, the game comes out 2 weeks from today.

[@MEWTWOMILLION]

Ah yes, my main at launch (...partially because Raphael's not in the game, but Leo's still looking cool).

[@mellud23]

@Mason Creekmur Leo mains RISE UP

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

All Ninja turtles characters in general mains rise up

[@big-k3875]

Since that isn’t Donatello in the background of the stage (like many suspected at first), does that mean the other turtles might be dlc? 👀

[@bricebutler1408]

Or unlockable like in SSB Melee that be cool 😎

[@brandonsclips7741]

I've been wondering, do you guys think the 'free' characters coming soon after launch (the 2 that will make up the games original 22 Character launch window), will get their own stages?

[@Wyatt_Brown]

Not 100% sure, but it seems like each character gets a stage, so the number of playable characters and stages would stay the same. Even when the stages aren't super specifically related to the character, just the series in general. Like they said Jellyfish Fields is Spongebob's stage, and the Flying Dutchman's Ship is Patrick's stage.

[@niro1_]

Every character will have a home stage so yes

[@Wyatt_Brown]

@@niro1_ Did they say that somewhere or is that just based in the fact that they say "this is [character]'s stage" a lot? That's what I assumed, but I didn't see anywhere where they said definitely every character had their own stage.

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

I hope

[@YounKnowJACK]

I wish they would've went with the TMNT 2012 designs... Hopefully we can them as DLC costumes/skins

[@backup368]

Tito as a non-playable boss.

[@ofischial]

these fast disjointed hit boxes look like a nightmare to play against

[@bananallama3001]

Oh my god, another sword fighter *sigh* I can’t believe sakurai would do this

[@jalyn1551]

Really looking forward to zim danny or powdered toast man next

[@knuclear200x]

*_Leonardo_* _Cuts in!_

[@Juggleboy]

If you could also add Donatello as DLC, that would be great 👍

[@erickmayorga8721]

I bet Donnatello and Rafael would be the 2 additional characters they would release before announcing DLC

[@maounobbu8128]

They really just made the announcer go as fast as he could in Leonardo's showcase after explaining that he's fast

[@xxvolcomxx56]

Moves hitting just doesn’t have the same satisfaction that smash does

[@parkwayninja41]

Leonardo looks kinda like a mix of link, Cloud and Marth, which makes me really excited.

[@gridman2142]

Please add Donatello and Raphael as DLC, in addition id love to see Casey Jones, The Shredder, Krang in Android body, Bebop and Rocksteady, & Splinter added

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

I don’t know if they can add all those

[@gridman2142]

@@admiralAlfonso9001 Of course they can Viacom owns the global rights for Ninja Turtles. No reason why they cant be added.

[@handsmcgee8331]

Everyone would complain but Donnie & Raph is a must don’t know why they aren’t in the game

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

@@gridman2142 I just meant they can’t add all of them there needs to be room for other characters

[@shyguy0073]

Leonardo being in this just reminds me of when I played TMNT: Smash-Up when I was a kid, so Leonardo being in a smash-esque game again is pretty nostalgic I would say.

[@limepie3801]

I'm glad you guys gave the character with disjoints weaker damage to balance it. Unlike Smash Ultimate, where disjoints are just a complete upgrade over regular attacks...

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

Characters with disjoints tend to have other flaws to balance them in Smash Ultimate. Sword characters might be generally good, but there are PLENTY of top tiers who have attacks with little to no disjoint, like pikachu. Don't act like the only aspect of a character is attacks and the only way to improve/nerf a character is by making their attacks have more/less range or power... There are tons of other aspects. For example, Ike, Corrin, Robin, and Byleth all have extremely low mobility and can get out-frame data'd. Sword characters also tend to have weaker recoveries than most.

[@JRDC-vl1kt]

Honestly this stage might be my favorite stage out of all the ones that have been shown

[@amaze_z1953]

Leonardo = Shiek Spongebob = Mario Patrick = Bowser Sandy = Fox Catdog = ??? Ren and Stimpy = Banjo-Kazooie

[@IcyDiamond]

Catdog = Pyra/Mythra April O’Neil = Zero Suit Samus

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

Leonardo is more like just Mythra, or Meta Knight. Since they have disjoints, but share Sheik's low damage but high combo potential

[@Pshady23]

Me-"I named my son after Leonardo" Dude-"Oh like the painter gotcha" Me-"Leonardo paints too?"

[@Rodniikun]

Man I wish this game had a bigger budget so they could smoothen out some of these animations

[@jrkev1]

I didn’t expect to be very hyped for this character. But after the showcase and the ZSS downB (kinda) I NEEED ITTTT

[@Gingerbreadley]

Ooo swordy time.

[@AliceUmoh]

The music for this stage is pretty good!

[@TheVivvav]

You guys dropped the ball by not having his up special be called "Shellicopter".

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

BA DUM TCH

[@KurtMage]

I believe it's named after the TMNT Tournament Fighters move of the same name. Also when I google "endless screw leonardo", it gives a Leonardo Da Vinci concept, so I'm wondering if the original name was meant to be a reference to this? Not sure.

[@handsmcgee8331]

They dropped the ball not adding all 4 turtles

[@Umi_Pumi]

Never thought to find such a deep game, I mean look at the move names. Who would've thought to have a jumpi air slash called " air vertical slash", great stuff, I'm sure this will blow up

[@matthewrec7543]

Still waiting for Garfield to be as DLC

[@theflea9091]

really hope raph (and donatello) are gonna be part of this game, either as alt skins or dlc fighters but they def need to be there!

[@indigo_sirgaming]

Raphael when??? I need my angry turtle in this game!!!

[@bluekel615]

I honestly dont understand why they took michaelangelo over him, he is the most similar to the comic counterparts, he just screams turtles! Edit: and his personality is the most fit for a platform fighting game

[@ngcwiz1755]

My number one oddball pick for this game would be Francine(Nick Animated Shorts) or Harpy Gee(Nick Animated Shorts). Itd be a great way to reveal that they would be greenlit. Ollies Pack used to be a short 2 years ago called Monster Pack and that got greenlit.

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

What about Pelswick Eggert

[@Plush_Collector]

Cowabunga! Shell shock! Pizza time!🐢🔵🐢🔴🐢🟠🐢🟣 🍕

[@toonzach2870]

Two in one day (with April's showcase on Polygon)? Nice.

[@somethingsuperbland8829]

Simple? Yes. Most interesting sword fighter I’ve seen in a game? Yes. Amazing how sword characters don’t have to suck if you just give a shit when making them.

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

I disagree with everything except "simple". Literally nothing about this moveset is interesting except the special moves (and that's the entire point of special moves, so great achievement there.) I'm not denying he looks fun, and the mechanics of the GAME OVERALL seem interesting, but this moveset? Nah. The majority smash bros swordies introduced in 4 and ultimate have INFINITELY more interesting movesets. Look at the variety in animations and concepts seen in moves like Byleth's up special, Corrin's side special, Robin's items, Hero's command selection, Sephiroth's side special, and tell me that anything in this comes even CLOSE. Even the special moves are basically just mii brawler's and flip jump, Meta Knights's brawl mach tornado, and a generic chargeable neutral special. I get that they included attacks he can do in the games, and that's cool for the games' fans and all, but if the attacks from those games aren't that interesting.... then the moveset isn't going to be that interesting either. It's the reason why a lot of the older smash bros swordies like Marth have more boring movesets- Marth doesn't have that many crazy abilities he can do, so there's nothing super interesting to translate to smash. Also, you're saying this before the game even comes out, let alone before a meta develops. I'd say it's far too soon to say he's the "most interesting swordfighter you've seen in a game"

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@@JacobPDeIiNoNi hey so quick fun fact: everything you used to defend smash sword fighters has absolutely nothing to do with using a sword. Robin and Seph use magic for certain specials which make them interesting but their sword moves are nothing worth talking about. In fact Hero would be NOTHING as a character without his magic. If anything he’s more of a mage than a sword fighter. Corrin uses his arm for side special due to dragon powers. Even Byleth recovering with his sword, is bc he’s using the whip part. It’s only bc the sword is also an entirely different weapon that he’s able to recover and he’s using it as a whip instead of a sword. When the only thing interesting about your sword fighter is the few moves where they DONT use their sword it’s pretty obvious you have a very boring character with little to do. Yes Leo is simple like Marth, but even the fact that he duel wields makes his moves and range far more interesting. Based on this game play alone this is the most I’ve ever seen done to someone that ONLY uses a sword instead of saying “despite 95% of his moves being magic based Hero is a great sword fighter”. They worked with what they had and made him more interesting than characters like Marth. They also made him more interesting than a character like Sephiroth who is mainly sword moves but with two magic moves that are supposed to trick you into thinking he’s unique. They made Leo honest and that’s immediately better than smash lying to you by shitting out another swordie and saying they’re different Bc of one move. That’s the difference here. Unlike most of smash, these guys have actually tried to make something interesting instead of something slightly different.

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

@@somethingsuperbland8829 Using something other than a sword is exactly WHAT makes those sword characters interesting though... And also, despite people constantly complaining about how many sword characters are in the roster, I guess by your definition most of those characters shouldn't be counted? But fine, if you want to talk about purely sword characters and moves, that bunch still have plenty of sword moves that are still very interesting. Just look at, for example, Robin's up and down smashes, Sephiroth's forward air stab that can stab into a wall, Ike's up special, or Hero's moves that can critical hit (which are his forward smash and hatchet man). And, I actually do agree with you that dual wielding gives interesting potential. Which is disappointing because this character uses almost none of that, only 3 of the moves seem to actually use both swords in an interesting way (Those 3 being the dual slash, scissor slash, and neutral special. And no, I'm not counting aerial and grounded versions of the exact same animation as "different attacks" That's like counting a special move that works differently in the air as a different attack). All of his other attacks are just as generic as anything a character using one sword could do, with such ingenious moves as "horizontal slash," "vertical slash," and "down slash."

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@@JacobPDeIiNoNi my “definition” was that most smash sword fighters have one or two moves that aren’t a sword to trick people into thinking they’re more than just a sword character (like Byleth’s other weapons). Characters like Seph are still sword fighters bc they have more sword moves than magic. Characters like Hero however are the opposite. Robin’s smash attacks are only interesting bc of the magic meter mechanic. Even then it’s still a generic slash. Seph is unique but that’s one of his two unique moves in the entire character. Ike’s up special is the same jump to crash down as many others. Staying air born a second longer doesn’t make it unique. Hero is unique but like Robin the move is the same generic slash as any sword user. You’re falling for the trick. You think one or two slightly different moves makes the whole character brand new. In reality the moves are so overused that Pyra/Mythra have every sword move in the game in one package. No one calls them interesting bc unlike Hero or Robin they don’t have magic to give them actually unique moves. Look past the one or two magic spell moves of characters like Seph and see what “unique” moves you’re actually left with. I agree the names for Leo’s attacks suck. However these are moves you’d see in smash as tilts. He just doesn’t have some kind of magic like Seph to trick you into thinking he’s more than 95% sword moves. But I’ll give Leo this, as generous as some of his moves are, they didn’t give him a counter like most smash swordies would get. So even then he’s still not as generic as someone like Seph, Pyra/Mythra, Every FE fighter except Robin and Byleth, and Shulk.

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

@@somethingsuperbland8829 So your argument that leo is an interesting sword character... is that he doesn't "pretend" to be an interesting sword character... meaning he just admits flat out that he's a boring one. Makes no sense to me. Robin's smash attacks are definitely unique, have you even looked at the animations? The down smash sends a shock wave of electricity onto the ground since the sword is electric, and robin throws the sword overhead for up smash. And even characters like Pyra/Mythra have more unique animations than some of leo's. For nair they throw the sword in front of them instead of doing a generic all around slash. For fair they both do a spinning upward slash that has a very different motion to most sword moves (generally downward or horizontal slashes.) I'll agree they're boring for the most part, but even then the stance change mechanic alone makes them more interesting than leo. And I don't think "one or two slightly different moves makes the whole character brand new". I'm not over here saying echo fighters like the four Marth clones are different. What I'm saying is that characters with different movesets are different. Some, like Pyra/Mythra, barely have anything that is interesting But Corrin and Byleth actually have almost entirely unique movesets. Corrin's only generic sword attacks are forward and down tilt, and forward and up air, for a grand total of four. Byleth only has 3, their 3 tilts (and even then down tilt uses the whip). And what you'd probably say to that is "well, at that point they aren't sword fighters any more". And in that case, how does a sword character WIN in your point of view? What can you do with a sword other than slash and stab in different ways? It's limiting. Which is why they expand into other abilities of the characters like magic and the like. But if the character has a mostly non-sword moveset, you say they're not a swordfighter. If they have a few sword moves, you say they're "tricking" people. If they only have sword attacks, you say they're boring. With those 3 criteria in mind, there is no middle ground for a sword character to please you (unless you've already decided you like them for a reason lost to me, as we're seeing here)