Les Paul Vs ES-335 - That Pedal Show

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That Pedal Show

That Pedal Show

Күн бұрын

Mick has a 335, Dan has a Les Paul - what about you?
Life too short for long KZbin videos? See the 'Interesting bits and go-to sections' timings below.
Welcome to the show! Dan and I recently did a Strat Vs Tele episode - • Strat Vs Tele - That P... - and we enjoyed it more than we thought we would. So it's on to a couple of our favourite Gibson fiddles. That would be the venerable Electric Spanish 335 in my case (Mick here) and the truly legendary Les Paul Standard for Daniel.
This isn't really a video for those of you who know these guitars inside out, though you may enjoy it anyway. Moreover it's aimed at those of you who have an interest in one or the other and/or have been maybe thinking about taking the plunge. Just how much do they differ, given they have more or less the same hardware and electronics complement?
Now clearly, there have been MANY different Lesters and Threethirtyfives down the years and their sounds can vary radically. So don't be all up in our comments section about that. We have what we have and that's what we're using. Two guitars, a bit of fun.
Both of these guitars are 'modern' Gibson reissues of classic year 1958, interestingly enough the same year the ES-335 debuted and the Les Paul Standard turned sunburst.
Sorry we never got to playing the Goldtop… despite promising to at least twice!
Enjoy the episode!
Pedals, amps and stuff in this episode:
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• Sonic Research Turbo Tuner ST-300
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• JAM Pedals Fuzz Phrase Limited Edition
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• ProCo Rat 2 Classic Distortion
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• Browne Amplification Protein Dual
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• Ibanez Tube Screamer Mini
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• BOSS DD-200 Digital Delay
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• JAM Pedals Harmonious Monk
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• TheGigRig G3
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Interesting bits and go-to sections:
- Intro playing: 00:00
- What are we doing today?: 01:15
- Today’s guitars: 02:30
- Clean tones: 04:25
- Tuning and intonation?: 09:45
- What Mick loves about the ES-335: 12:35
- …and with more gain, 335 & Les Paul: 15:40
- What about feedback?: 20:46
- Mid-focussed fusiony stuff?: 24:15
- Mid-gain rock?: 30:50
- Knock the volume pot back: 33:25
- Both pickups - Clapton? And woman tone?: 38:50
- Fuzz? 45:33
- Harmonious Monk!: 49:15
- Woss yer fave then?: 53:20
Guitars in this episode:
• Gibson Memphis 1958 ES-335 (2017 model) - Mick’s video at: • Gibson Memphis 1958 ES...
• Gibson Custom 1958 Les Pal Standard (2002 model) - Dan’s video at: • That Pedal Show - Our ...
Amps in this episode
• Two Rock Classic Reverb Signature with Two-Rock 112 cabinet / WGS12L speaker
• Fender ’65 Deluxe Reverb
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@2ComfortablyNumb
@2ComfortablyNumb 3 жыл бұрын
To me, this channel is “That Tone Show.” I love it when you guys venture beyond pedals.
@bipbipletucha
@bipbipletucha 3 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes.
@FuzzyDancingBear
@FuzzyDancingBear 3 жыл бұрын
One of the saving graces of today's KZbin
@Ottophil
@Ottophil 2 жыл бұрын
@@FuzzyDancingBear my entire feed is nothing 5150 iconic and prs se silver sky. This is nice
@bigbrownhouse6999
@bigbrownhouse6999 Жыл бұрын
They seem to have really good knowledge of how to use the amp and guitar and not just rely on pedals.
@lt.reubenrozeyt5716
@lt.reubenrozeyt5716 9 ай бұрын
Es335 style is more comfortable sitting.
@galogamoth
@galogamoth 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s try and get through this without it ending in me browsing reverb and wishing I was wealthier
@Kanthon
@Kanthon 3 жыл бұрын
Fat chance, eh?
@leftchicago
@leftchicago 3 жыл бұрын
Not a chance.
@davedavem
@davedavem 3 жыл бұрын
If you looked at my Reverb browsing history it'd have Friday afternoon written all over it!
@dougtube2006
@dougtube2006 3 жыл бұрын
I know… I just bought a lefty 335 style Eastman… nice, but Not quite the same thing as a 335 but less than half of the cost… I really wish it were a 335
@anthonydevito1298
@anthonydevito1298 3 жыл бұрын
Too real
@rheinhardtgrafvonthiesenha8185
@rheinhardtgrafvonthiesenha8185 Жыл бұрын
Here’s what I find in these “shootouts” and when I do them with my own gear and with friends. It basically comes down to what you’re comparing it to and eventually it becomes swings and roundabouts. If you have two guitars that are tonally similar like these two then generally the guitar with a little more higher end appears better. That’s why they call ES’s “burst killers”. But if you then take that 335 and compare it with an SG, the SG is the shoutier guitar and appears to win out. Compare the SG with a V and the same thing happens. Now come full circle and compare the V with the Les Paul and they’re not tonally similar enough that all of the sudden the V starts sounding a bit like a tin can next to the Les Paul. If they’re tonally close the brighter guitar wins, if it’s not close the warmer guitar wins. My .02
@robertlewis5439
@robertlewis5439 3 жыл бұрын
Mick: "Catherine is womaning the cameras" Catherine: "ooh yeah!"
@stephendixon8575
@stephendixon8575 3 жыл бұрын
That made me laugh too. However, for a little while at the start, I got the impression Mick seemed a bit self-conscious in front of the camera? Maybe having ‘the boss’ there had this effect, but I did wonder what Mick was thinking when he said they ‘needed’ to acquire a Gibson SG for their collection in front of Catherine. Then again, maybe that’s just because I can imagine getting ‘that look’ from my Mrs if she heard me saying I was thinking of buying another guitar!
@alecmullaney7957
@alecmullaney7957 3 жыл бұрын
Cute dog
@alecmullaney7957
@alecmullaney7957 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephendixon8575 I think it was the stress of lockdown slamming down the next day
@dizzyrider3883
@dizzyrider3883 3 жыл бұрын
I love cranking my full hollow. The feedback is just another, fully controlable, feature of the guitar. I'm the knob.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
YES!
@cannibalsausage5767
@cannibalsausage5767 3 жыл бұрын
You *are* a knob
@JasonClute
@JasonClute 3 жыл бұрын
Plus feeling the air move through the sound holes 😍
@dizzyrider3883
@dizzyrider3883 3 жыл бұрын
@@JasonClute that too 👍
@dizzyrider3883
@dizzyrider3883 3 жыл бұрын
@@cannibalsausage5767 I did say.
@dalezjc
@dalezjc 3 жыл бұрын
Love the fact that you guys (primarily) play classic guitars (Teles, Strats, LPs, 335s) and tube amps. Don't ever change! :-)
@WillyPDX94
@WillyPDX94 3 жыл бұрын
Equally wonderful sounding guitars, but noticeably different tonal qualities. As a Fender single coil guy, I gravitate toward the 335 over the LP because it does tend to have a more open harmonic sound. As Clapton (and many others) proved, however, you can sound equally amazing on a Tele, Strat, 335, or LP if you have the skills to adapt to the playing characteristics of each guitar. And I've proved you can sound equally bad on all four. 🤪
@manameajeff
@manameajeff 22 күн бұрын
😂
@aaronpwalls
@aaronpwalls 3 жыл бұрын
Mick: "a little bit more reverb" Dan's face: "oh yeah, it's all coming together"
@RubyRoks
@RubyRoks 3 жыл бұрын
around 13 minutes in, Mick switched to the middle position on a clean tone and i immediately thought "That's THE classic blues sound"
@denismguitar1552
@denismguitar1552 3 жыл бұрын
Catherine(Katherine) thank you for womaning, and for all you do in support of this addiction we deal with.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Denis, I’ll pass that on. (The K is correct). We literally could not do it without her. :0)
@denismguitar1552
@denismguitar1552 3 жыл бұрын
Great team. Sorry for the “C”. Wasn’t certain. My Friday mornings are for only one thing. Coffee and TPS!
@steverolfeca
@steverolfeca 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing: My dad ran a store, and received new guitars every week. Everything sounded warmer and rounder in his hands than in mine. The difference was greater than 335 VS Les Paul. So much so, that I had to go to the amp to match his tones. Chasing the right guitar will just lead you round in circles. Try chasing the right tone instead, and let that lead you to the guitar that fits your playing.
@andrewpearson1903
@andrewpearson1903 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Tele a few months ago, passed it around among myself & 5 friends, and it made 4-5 pretty different sounds. Pickups and speaker and EQ certainly shape the tone, but the player is the same from instrument to instrument
@WetOlde
@WetOlde Жыл бұрын
I’m playing a squire standard. Solid axe but nothing fancy. I’ve always wanted something more fancy like an American made fender. One day my teacher borrowed it and I realised just how much of the potential in the guitar i wasn’t reaching. Players really affect the sound immensely!
@gunkanjima3408
@gunkanjima3408 3 ай бұрын
I think you guys are missing the point. Most are here to see if there is a tonal difference
@allrequiredfields
@allrequiredfields 3 ай бұрын
I'm so tired of guitar players parroting this nonsense as if it's fact. It's this 'iTs aLL iN YoUr fiNGeRs' that's been passed around as gospel for decades and I'm sorry to tell you but guitars and gear do/does make a difference tonally. You can absolutely chase tones AND get them. I've been doing it since the mid-90s. As a teen, I heard Clapton, Hendrix and Page all playing through Marshalls and chased that tone for years until I found out that it wasn't in anyone's fingers, it was in getting a 1967 Superlead and realizing that the newer ones sound nothing like the old ones. The second I turned that amp up, I knew right then and there that the right amp was EXACTLY what I was looking for. And for guitars, I've always loved Gibsons but never found any new ones that I cared for. Then I found a beat to hell '67 335 that was FINALLY the tone I was looking for - still literally nothing to do with my playing or fingers. Les Paul (or classic recordings of them) had always been my favorite guitar tone but again, none of the new ones sounded like what I wanted. Of course every hack and music store clerk parroted the gospel of 'it's in your fingers' nonsense but when I was finally able to afford a converted (50s P-90 LP routed for humbuckers) THAT WAS IT - I had finally found a Les Paul that sounded like the old recordings I'd always loved. So no, kids, it's not in your fingers, it's the gear. Don't give up, you'll eventually find a guitar that works for you, tonally - and it doesn't have to be a $20,000 guitar; my '67 335 cost me far less than a new Custom Shop costs.
@allrequiredfields
@allrequiredfields 3 ай бұрын
​@@WetOldeThere's literally **zero** difference tonally between a Squire and an American made Fender. It is the same wood, same electronics and same pickups (unless we're talking Custom Shop) - the only difference is going to be fit and finish. The Squire might not feel as good or you'll have cosmetic issues, but tonally, they are the same thing.
@dswo70
@dswo70 3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your show since the beginning. This episode is one of your best. Well-paced and EMPIRICAL!
@mattcooper1840
@mattcooper1840 3 жыл бұрын
This really shows the tones that can come from just one guitar. More people need to learn to play their guitar , pedals ares the icing on the cake. Great show guys , as much as is good on 10. Some times is nice to take the back seat and dime it down and enjoy the ride !!
@patrickellington4116
@patrickellington4116 3 жыл бұрын
Love the off the cuff episodes, the energy of you two just having fun playing is uplifting. Keep having fun gents!
@MadDrummer100000
@MadDrummer100000 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing theme, guys! I’ve wanted to see this battle for ages! Cheers!
@angbernardo
@angbernardo 3 жыл бұрын
It’s as is you fellas stepped into my head and said “let’s do an episode just for this guy!” These are two of my favourite guitars and I own both... and both are equally loved ! Thanks for the episode fellas 🤘🏽
@oldmantwofour5561
@oldmantwofour5561 3 жыл бұрын
Don't even need to watch this...335. Don't worry guys! I'm still gonna watch it.
@ChrisHendrix117
@ChrisHendrix117 3 жыл бұрын
Since the Strat Tele show, I seriously prayed this was on the docket!!! I’ve been contemplating one over the other for quite some time now. I will absolutely end up with both, but this helps narrow down which comes first. Thanks for the help? Haha!! Excellent stuff fellas!!
@melwynalmeida50
@melwynalmeida50 3 жыл бұрын
Mick and Dan, Thank you guys for this video. You guys are like two scientists talking shop regarding guitars. You guys are so experienced and are actually sharing your life's experiences with us. Enjoyed listening and watching you. Thank You again. Love from Mumbai, India.
@alanr.johnson7222
@alanr.johnson7222 Жыл бұрын
I am lucky enough to own two guitars similar to each of these; the Les Paul was a 60th birthday present last summer, the the 335 I have owned for thirty years but just returned from a 20 year loan spell to my nephew last week! Your show has inspired me, again, this time, to look for what each of these iconic instruments can do and where to fit them into my reemerging repertoire. Great show lads, keep them coming!
@EddieG1888
@EddieG1888 Жыл бұрын
335 for me, every time. That hollow body gives it much more twang than the Les Paul, and when overdriven it is absolutely THE guitar tone of rock n' roll.
@denismguitar1552
@denismguitar1552 3 жыл бұрын
The thing I love about the Gibson layout is rhythm on neck rolled back a touch and flick the pup switch to bridge for full-on lead. With an amp just at it’s pretty-break up. Perfect.
@caseywilson7768
@caseywilson7768 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the best tones you've gotten i think. Although I say that almost every video. Bless you two for keeping real guitar tone alive
@rdb9936
@rdb9936 3 жыл бұрын
Great show, as ever! You absolutely hit the nail on the head at 37:45, talking about the difference in dynamic range/intrinsic compression between 25.5 and 24.75 inch scale length guitars. LPs really shine when you let them breathe by not attacking the strings quite as hard.
@AndrewMooreLearningLicks
@AndrewMooreLearningLicks 3 жыл бұрын
So what you're telling me is ... I need both in my life ... sounds reasonable enough to me, I'll go let the wife know ... if you don't hear from me again, I'm dead.
@tonygairomusic911
@tonygairomusic911 3 жыл бұрын
As a pro sax player infiltrating the guitar world, I am compelled to say the following: I learn so very much from you guys and I really dig this channel. Enjoy hearing each of you play too. I own a 335 and a Les Paul and this video reiterated - quite enjoyably, I might add - what I've gleaned from my own pursuit, which is that there is much that is alike in the performance of each of these classics but so much, nuance in particular, that is unique to each that one should own at least one of each in a complete collection. Please help me explain this to my wife...
@stephenmcfarlane7961
@stephenmcfarlane7961 2 жыл бұрын
That was so interesting and answered a lot of questions. Great job great sounds and playing. All the best from Australia.
@19mikal79
@19mikal79 3 жыл бұрын
Great counterintuitive tips about turning down the vol. on LP. Nice goof at the end of episode Dan. Keep killing it guys!
@olivergodelie9127
@olivergodelie9127 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not quite as close of a comparison but I’d love to see a Gretsch vs es-335/330
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
That would be cool!
@Dustiliciousz
@Dustiliciousz 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow yes this! Country Gentleman or a Falcon!!
@jimbob6th
@jimbob6th 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!
@AZFunk
@AZFunk 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I've often had that debate with myself when considering what sort of semi-hollow body to add to the arsenal.
@nigelbarnes818
@nigelbarnes818 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's not quite the same thing, but I have a Epiphone Sheraton II Pro and a Gretsch 5420T and I'm really loving the feel of my Sheraton. The tone is very different compared to the 5420T. I love both of them. So my answer is get both and don't compare. They bring different things out of your playing. P.S. My Ibanez Artist acts as my Les Paul, but needless to say, it's not a Les Paul. It does have its own thing though. I definitely don't play it enough.
@Somuntioalt
@Somuntioalt 2 жыл бұрын
Until seeing this video I could not tell the difference between the sound of those two guitars after adding some gain! Clean sounds I could tell them apart, but overdriven or distorted sounds, I could not! At all! You guys opened my eyes! Thank you!
@soopajeanmi
@soopajeanmi 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode ! I learned a lot and discovered new tones in my 335 with mick’s advice. Thank you !
@mstringer90
@mstringer90 3 жыл бұрын
love your videos guys. Great content, sick playing, keep em comin'
@justinguitarcia
@justinguitarcia 3 жыл бұрын
Mick's playing around 13 minutes in is the same reason I love my 335. Also, an interesting aside, lots of my favorite older jazz/blues records like Grant Green, Kenny Burrell, Wes, they were using tweeds and/or pushed tube amps with their Gibby hollows. I think those are pinnacle tones even though Jazz started getting into that sterile clean territory later on, those early records have amazing tones. Grant Green especially with the 330 (p90s I know) yet its still that thing, never gets old for me. Now you have Julian Lage playing through tweeds and pushed fenders and its a refreshing move back to those rootsy sounds
@kcmccloskey
@kcmccloskey 3 жыл бұрын
especially in that middle position! As a drummer, I find playing with guys on 335s so much more comfortable. I spent a lot of years in an electric blues band where both guitarists played 335s as their main axes (one through a Matchless and one throug a Mesa Blue Angel!) and it was glorious. (though I think my ideal would be one with a 335 and one on something with P90s)
@PaulRedfern
@PaulRedfern 3 жыл бұрын
This is _so_ handy for me. I've always been a Fender player too. I have had a Dot for years, but only this week picked up an LP (copy - my first LP) this week! Fantastic see the comparisons A/B'd like this - and the volume roll-off hints too! 🙂
@JohnW335andTele
@JohnW335andTele 3 жыл бұрын
I must say… Watching you guys on my flat screen through my stereo system is so much better than on my phone. Anyway, thanks for the episode… And now, I need a 335 in my future, mind you an Epiphone, but still you know what I mean. Have a great and merry Christmas to you all!
@erikzen1
@erikzen1 3 жыл бұрын
I love the chemistry between Dan and Mick. There's no apprehension about touching each other's knobs.
@abubakr6939
@abubakr6939 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure they have no apprehension about touching each other!
@MyDrugHell
@MyDrugHell 2 жыл бұрын
And even with a semi.
@sigsour5421
@sigsour5421 9 ай бұрын
No homo
@kylestair4803
@kylestair4803 3 жыл бұрын
Les Paul more of a "thwack" 335 more of a "thwunk" both awesome
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
I like that a lot. Nice!
@robertbarrass7519
@robertbarrass7519 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say 335 more of a Thwap!!!!
@matthewcasey4795
@matthewcasey4795 3 жыл бұрын
And the Lord said to Abraham "Give me a tele, a 335, a Marshall Plexi, and a Memory Man and I shall rule the world".
@AtomMotherHeart
@AtomMotherHeart 3 жыл бұрын
It's spelt Metalzone bruh
@matthewcasey4795
@matthewcasey4795 3 жыл бұрын
@@AtomMotherHeart lol. DS1 forever
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 3 жыл бұрын
And the Lord said: "Bruh I'm a Sabbath fan so you'll get an SG, a treble booster and a Laney AND THOU SHALL LIKE IT!"
@mattthrun-nowicki8641
@mattthrun-nowicki8641 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but he told me “Give me a Les Paul and a Hiwatt, and all the lands before you shall be yours.”
@quicklynamed
@quicklynamed 3 жыл бұрын
The lord said to me, "you're getting an Epiphone Dot and a used Hot Rod Deluxe because you're broke, son."
@daveanderson5136
@daveanderson5136 3 жыл бұрын
Your intro has made me smile today. Thanks guys!!
@MrThiny
@MrThiny 3 жыл бұрын
wow, very, very interesting, and it is so much fun to watch you guys.
@YeatzeeGuitar
@YeatzeeGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
Just came to say Dan's LP looks gorgeous in that lighting. You guys have done a great job lighting the set, looks epic.
@onenotesolo256
@onenotesolo256 3 жыл бұрын
My fave position on an LP is the middle, which gets left out of a lot of YT videos. And I don’t mean the out-of-phase tone; just a normal middle position. Nice and open and airy - more like a 335 in fact.
@kevinvandenberg5548
@kevinvandenberg5548 3 жыл бұрын
Page used the middle position a lot! Hence why I use it a lot. Amazing sound.
@johnwriterpoet1783
@johnwriterpoet1783 3 жыл бұрын
The middle, yes! I'm with you. A little overdrive in the neck position is very nice and heavy also.
@PinchTune
@PinchTune 3 жыл бұрын
Funny you say this cause I normally either play bridge or neck, but I store my LP with the switch in the middle position. Every time I plug in the guitar, the first few notes are usually in the middle position. And I always have to think, "That sounds sweet." I have to do it more often.
@t3hgir
@t3hgir 3 жыл бұрын
middle position with two P90s is heavenly.
@Moyetniishiswa2000
@Moyetniishiswa2000 2 жыл бұрын
As the owner of two Les Paul’s... get yourself a strat. Much better guitar for that type of tone. And get a Tele for good measure. And a jazzmaster. And basically anything Fender make.
@ddpphoto
@ddpphoto 3 жыл бұрын
Always interesting, always something new to learn and appreciate. Thanks guys.
@AlbusBand
@AlbusBand 3 жыл бұрын
I own styles of both (an LP studio & D’Angelico 335 style) and have always loved each. They’ve always been my second or third in line after something w/P90’s and then a Jazzmaster. Each of them are truly unique and this video, like all videos showing the fascinating nature of guitars, is reason to grab one of each 😊. You guys are the absolute best. And because of that, I’ve settled into knowing that each week I have VCQ Monday, Wednesday I have practice and Fridays I have a new TPS show. I truly hope all is well and everyone is healthy, all my love to you legends. Talk again soon.
@aStarryBlur
@aStarryBlur 3 жыл бұрын
Shampoo is better! I go on first and clean the hair! Conditioner is better! I leave the hair silky and smooth!
@rowegardner9673
@rowegardner9673 3 жыл бұрын
You deserve a medal for this reference. Wasn’t expecting it hahaha.
@Toastrodamus
@Toastrodamus 3 жыл бұрын
Stop looking at me swan
@RobBrownSTS
@RobBrownSTS 3 жыл бұрын
Man I'd love to see this revisited with an SG. Lovely playing and tones gents.
@johnladdsmusic
@johnladdsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the most jaw dropping tones! You guys reminded me why I’m a humbucker guy at heart! Love both guitars so much...but if I had to choose just one....335...especially that one!
@craigthompson7070
@craigthompson7070 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! The vol knob on Gibsons to control the attack and gain! Also similar with the tone controls... back it down to 6 or 7 and turn the treble up a little on the amp. Very good for tweaking the attack and having more control over the amp from the guitar. Soooo much blending can be done on a Gibson to find all the different shades which translates to mood and emotion.... great show guys 😎
@jhesbol
@jhesbol 3 жыл бұрын
Room 335, Larry Carlton....Everything you ever need to know about how amazing a 335 can sound!
@superderv
@superderv 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve loved Les Pauls since I was 13 and had a bunch over the years. Pretty much 10-11 years ago finally bought a 335 and it’s just become the one guitar I’ll never sell. Had Les Pauls again since and I want to love them but I haven’t found the one. These comparisons are fantastic! And totally reconfirm why the 335 is the one for me even though the LP sounds great too. Thanks for a great video.
@CenterThePendulum
@CenterThePendulum 9 ай бұрын
I’ve had the same experience. Started with a Les Pauk Studio, then a Traditional, then a Custom Shop ‘57 historic. Each had something that bothered me despite the Custom Shop being essentially perfect.
@loveisrealdudes
@loveisrealdudes 3 жыл бұрын
Just got a 335 style. Been struggling with eq and dynamics (as a SC player). This helped so much. I feel like I’m starting to understand now. You chaps are the best! Cheers
@allanwalker7839
@allanwalker7839 3 жыл бұрын
Most enjoyable and informative guys, thanks you.
@drnerd
@drnerd 3 жыл бұрын
335 is the thinking man's gibbo! 😊
@jimiwills
@jimiwills 5 ай бұрын
Get both. I have both. No regrets.
@SebCB
@SebCB 3 жыл бұрын
Shot on birthday. What a wonderful late present. Thank you so much. Im touched guys.
@johnnieguitar5724
@johnnieguitar5724 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT idea! Thanks! They each do really have their own voice.
@benedekgabor.
@benedekgabor. 3 жыл бұрын
Both sounded good, but I prefer the 335 by miles. I think it's just have a better tone, and I prefer the looks of it.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 3 жыл бұрын
@@vandal_dk Thas sexist! You sexist! ;)
@justsomeguy7650
@justsomeguy7650 2 жыл бұрын
How many miles exactly?
@benedekgabor.
@benedekgabor. 2 жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguy7650 a fuck ton
@kevinmurtagh4996
@kevinmurtagh4996 2 жыл бұрын
Would you feel that way no matter what you’re using the guitar for? I ask because, for my taste, my choice would depend on what I was playing. If I was playing straight up blues lead guitar, or jazz, or even just clean open chord rhythm stuff, I would go with the 335. But if I were playing ‘70s hard rock in the vein of Zeppelin or AC/DC, with a lot of heavier power chords and/or riffage, I would choose the Les Paul without hesitation. (I would actually want an SG over both the other two because I prefer the inherently brighter tone of the SG). But I’m curious to know if you would just choose the 335 for any and all situations, or if you might pick differently depending on what you were playing.
@BITESIZEJONES
@BITESIZEJONES Жыл бұрын
Idk man. Get yourself an R7 smoke a doob and think about it. I love my 335 but a good Lester will set you free. Play on, play on.
@rorymcclellan3740
@rorymcclellan3740 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a movie person, and I have dwindling patience for many forms of media, but TPS is something I excitedly sit down for! Ps.. that first bit from dan around 49:00 ish mark genuinely brought a tear to my eye as the feedback began to ring. I had a moment without even holding the guitar.. wow!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, thanks so much Rory 🤓🙏
@Dang...
@Dang... 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison! Both you guys have such nice vibratos too. Great touch sensitive dynamics also. Well done.
@johnsawyer6145
@johnsawyer6145 3 жыл бұрын
Gentlemen, Where was this video twenty years ago when I got my first Les Paul!?!? The experiments with the tone knobs were so instructive. I’ve been trying to get all of those tones with pedals and I now have a lifetime of knob-turning experimentation ahead of me. Thank you! PS - Warren Haynes called and he wants his tone secrets back! 🤘😊👍
@johnny.musician
@johnny.musician 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this, thanks. Clapton went LP-335-Strat, so that’s interesting. The playing went *almost* Kossoff and my ears went ‘please play those riffs’, I admit. Cheers from sunny Brisbane.
@MrGuitarHack
@MrGuitarHack 3 жыл бұрын
Both are iconic and great sounding guitars. Robben Ford and Larry Carlton helped me to fall in love with the sound of 335s in the 70s. Such a versatile guitar.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 3 жыл бұрын
If I could only have one...335. I'd rob it from Ford.
@abubakr6939
@abubakr6939 3 жыл бұрын
So you robbed Ford?
@MrGuitarHack
@MrGuitarHack 3 жыл бұрын
@@abubakr6939 -LOL, fat fingers did me in again. I will say if there's anyone whose playing I've tried to steal from its Robben Ford.
@MrGuitarHack
@MrGuitarHack 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattgilbert7347 - LOL, me too, his 335 back in the day was a beauty (I fixed my spelling error too).
@toneydavis9802
@toneydavis9802 3 жыл бұрын
CATHERINE! Great job! Thanks for helping. Masterful camera work Made Dan and Micks struggle with the Gibsons worth watching. Lol
@user-ik3nf9qz5g
@user-ik3nf9qz5g Жыл бұрын
This is no VS, this is just amazing sound from Mick and Dan! Love you guys!
@ChrisJones-ht9zn
@ChrisJones-ht9zn 3 жыл бұрын
I always loved how Terry Bickers of the House of love played his 335, although his is a CMI copy. He never went near the blues on his. A very underrated guitarist.
@mcmSEA
@mcmSEA 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Fantastic tone and feel.
@ryanspencerlauderdale687
@ryanspencerlauderdale687 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Lester’s clean tone is slightly under-appreciated, because a lot of players typically think rock and roll sounds when they reach for a Les Paul. I’ve gotten some great ambient tones out of a LP for the kind of music I play.
@Mathcartney
@Mathcartney 3 жыл бұрын
the guy from Caspian plays a les paul and he got an amazing tone everytime
@davidsisto7694
@davidsisto7694 3 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. I love the '59 reissue pups on my '14 LP Traditional, and like my Strats, play most material on the neck only pickup engaged. The clean tone is sooooo sweet on that...just a touch of reverb and the tone is perfect.
@coldacre
@coldacre 3 жыл бұрын
think of the most etherial band of all time: Sigur Ros. he used a Les Paul on those classic albums
@topografer
@topografer 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaahhh I love those two. The videos are always so stellar
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@AndresGonzalez-zq3ti
@AndresGonzalez-zq3ti 2 жыл бұрын
You both have great tone from your fingers alone, and so you do make these guitars sound amazing
@Angus.Maclean
@Angus.Maclean 3 жыл бұрын
Finally got to watching this one. As described , the LP is playing the notes and the 335 saying them.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that’s nice!
@poornoodle9851
@poornoodle9851 3 жыл бұрын
Quoting Yngwie: “More is more!” Get one of each!
@MaxPower-js1sk
@MaxPower-js1sk 3 жыл бұрын
Guys, how did I miss this? I have early 90s Les Paul Std and 335 and I’ve always wanted to see/hear this video. Thanks lads. Manly kisses from Max Power 💋💋💋👍😁👍
@headlandfestival3237
@headlandfestival3237 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for thinking forward and keeping TPS as part of all our Friday's, probably THE reason to be excited on a Friday now! Great show for me personally, I play a Deusenburg Fullerton Elite (a slim 335 inspired thing and still my suggestion for Dan's jazzbox) which I have struggled with finding a fuzz. I use a TWS throttle into a Laney Lionheart 2x12 and the best way I found is to gain stack and roll the tone pot. Waffle over, great show and thank for being you, even when it's been tough. Inspiration
@scottyvalero3691
@scottyvalero3691 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a big fender guy, but in September I bought an SG. I replaced the pick ups with low output Seymour duncans, and it is now my number one.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! We MUST get a humbucker SG.
@leemuckley1318
@leemuckley1318 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 61 reissue SG
@wlawnsldj
@wlawnsldj 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! Been a Tele and Strat guy for years. Then bought an SG and a DC and I play those two almost exclusively live. The Fenders stay at home
@Fr3ddyUK
@Fr3ddyUK 3 жыл бұрын
Angus Young has low output pickups as well. 7800 and 8100 I think from Seymour Duncan. Or he did the last time I checked.
@scottyvalero3691
@scottyvalero3691 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fr3ddyUK yeah I use a SD jazz neck with an aged alnico 5 magnet and a SD jazz bridge (not the jb) with an aged alnico 2 magnet. The alnico 2 mag in the bridge helps to smooth the mids some. The jazz bridge is a criminally underrated bridge pickup. NGL
@EdwardWFeery
@EdwardWFeery 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating deep-dive, as ever, looking forward to 2021's epic Danelectro v Duesenberg showdown
@antoniofalanga5846
@antoniofalanga5846 3 жыл бұрын
Owning a 335 VOS '58 (sunburst finish) and watching this episode is a good thing. thank you guys for the super good videos!!!
@thomasMkilleen
@thomasMkilleen 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode Gents. Another spin on this... I have both a 335 and a Gold Top Les Paul, both with P90's. It's glorious!!
@fernandobarrera6440
@fernandobarrera6440 3 жыл бұрын
Im a strat guy myself. All my heros play them. But the 335 is beautiful and versatile.
@vspflatcat
@vspflatcat 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a revealing show - much as I love the 335, the sound of that Les Paul was incredible. Perhaps the greatest sound I've ever heard is a 335 into a Super Reverb. I played in a blues band for a while, and that was our guitar player's rig and it was just killer. I have an interesting 335 I bought in Japan, now I just need the Super and my life will be complete. :)
@mattsaysvideo
@mattsaysvideo 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome! Thanks again.
@V.Drouin
@V.Drouin 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another amazing episode guys! I think one of the most important things that Dan and Mick said in this video is that Gibsons (and most set-neck humbucking guitars) need a soft touch. I use mostly set neck guitars (all have a scale length between 24.75" and 25" with humbuckers or P90s) and the single best thing I've ever done to improve my tone and my playing is to put 9s on everyone and start to use Dunlop's softest available pick (0.50mm). It forces me to play much softer, it gets me in the range where the humbuckers are at their most dynamics and, believe me, it still gets very heavy tone-wise.
@autumnprovidence
@autumnprovidence 3 жыл бұрын
The grain pattern on Dan's Les Paul is absolutely stunning. Ugh, drool...
@noahbergman7777
@noahbergman7777 3 жыл бұрын
Thats weird. For me Gibsons have always stayed in tuned better and have always been easier to set up. Great video. Great playing.
@robertw1871
@robertw1871 Жыл бұрын
That’s crazy, you must do something different, every Gibson I’ve got pretty much stays out of tune… it seems to go better with completely dead strings though… I’ve had pretty much all my friends bring there LPs to me to see if I can do something with there’s… new bone nuts and keeping the board level helps some… but any humidity change or bending and she’s gone lol… I only tune my fenders when they get new strings though…
@joeschlicht
@joeschlicht Жыл бұрын
@@robertw1871 Ha ha same, love my Les Paul but if you look at it wrong, it goes out of tune. My Strat and P bass can be in the case for months and right in tune when I pull them out.
@richardt9102
@richardt9102 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got three LP’s and they stay in tune for hours, even overnight. My basement is 50% humidity all year. I find my one strat is more temperamental.
@allen5638
@allen5638 3 жыл бұрын
As a new owner and student of the guitar, your channel has been a great bit of fun to watch and learn. Shared a couple videos with a buddy of mine and that afternoon he went and bought a strat. 😇 Keep up the great content and stay healthy!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks Allen, a pleasure to have you with us!
@kevingourley155
@kevingourley155 3 жыл бұрын
I love it when you guys experiment with tone weather its with amps or guitars that you are not used to i learn so much that changes the way think or what have be told about this amp sounds this way or that guitar sounds that way so thank you for doing videos like this
@tomcarol169
@tomcarol169 2 жыл бұрын
Both great guitars, the 335 is flat out amazing!!!
@FistPie
@FistPie 3 жыл бұрын
In the fuzz section, you can hear the "hollowness" that the 335 gives so much more. Interesting.
@shintaroiwasaki5852
@shintaroiwasaki5852 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! (Greetings from Japan). I’m a Strat guy myself, so greatly appreciated this. Would be interesting to see both guitars through the same amp. Looking forward to your future videos! - Shin
@Suhr-od6jp
@Suhr-od6jp 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a great show. Watching this taught me how to get so much more from my new guitar.....I'd always been a strat player, but now I know how to go about learning the secrets of my new 'blow the budget' R9 (that I was beginning to regret)
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t say I’m a huge fan of any Gibson guitars, in general, even though my first electric was a Matsumoku Epiphone Emperor F, but when I heard Kris Barocis’s ES-330L (?) with the parallel wired pickups and no center block, I immediately wanted one.
@lukekulik4936
@lukekulik4936 Жыл бұрын
They sound almost exactly the same. Either way, I really love how you guys test out gear. It really does require two people when doing a comparison.
@agusg.t.8950
@agusg.t.8950 3 ай бұрын
They FEEL different
@maton1982
@maton1982 3 жыл бұрын
wonderful inspired playing guys
@Cornan1980
@Cornan1980 3 жыл бұрын
When Mick said "US Election day today, too." I immediately thought of the episode four years ago, day after the election when Mick quipped "Nothing important or weird happened in America yesterday did it?" (or something to that effect) Four years has flown by. Grateful for everything I've learned from you guys and all the entertainment I've had during the duration.
@curtevans838
@curtevans838 3 жыл бұрын
I've found on my 335 that the notes bloom more when caressed as opposed to knocking the crap out of the note on the Fenders. It's an amazing thing when you realize how to "caress" the notes out of the Gibson's.
@stevekirby7333
@stevekirby7333 3 жыл бұрын
I got some of that attack back in my 335 with the Lollar Low Wind. But my 335 is fairly unique in terms of near bottomless dynamics. I played one of the first 100 Mr 335 and it definitely did not like being hit hard. You really needed to play it lightly and then all that glorious sound was there. 335s are the most variable guitars I've ever seen. Have had 5 of them, all radically different.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
Same with Lesters. Only the shape is the same!
@fender4brad
@fender4brad 3 жыл бұрын
Since Fender went sideways with me, I have really rediscovered how great Gibson guitars are lately. I haven't pulled out my Strat for a long time. I noticed quit a bit of dust on the case. I get to play for people soon, and am looking forwards to keeping my Fender stuff in dust and playing Vox and Gibson in a live situation. Should be fun and refreshing. Great stuff gentlemen, very though provoking and fun to watch your amazing playing and understanding of gear.
@danielmayoros740
@danielmayoros740 3 жыл бұрын
Turning down the volume to get more dynamic is a great trick! I achieved a similar thing with my Les Paul by dropping the pickups a quarter of a centimeter or so. I found it lets the guitar breathe a bit more, and makes it a little easier to handle for this native tele player.
@Storm-Chaser
@Storm-Chaser 3 жыл бұрын
Love the smooth, creamy sound of the ES-335.
@TXbluesplayer
@TXbluesplayer 3 жыл бұрын
Bark and bite with the LP..... Grrrrrowwwwwl with the 335, with a touch of butter! BOTH = Legendary!
@erythuria
@erythuria 2 жыл бұрын
I came for the information; I stayed for Dan's sheer enjoyment of every note.
@southpaw335
@southpaw335 3 жыл бұрын
Can i just say WOW and Oh my giddy aunt!. As someone who relies on the ipad with headphones for my TPS fix, today i got to watch on the big screen at home with sound system. I finally understand why you get so many comments on the video quality. The winner today was the visual splendiferousness that is 4K... how do i go back to watching on ipad now... congrats to all on that setup. I literally was not prepared for how gorgeous the top on Dan’s LP is - my word that is stunning. Mick you know we love that 335, it really suits you and brings out another side of your playing beautifully. Now as to the (totally unbiased ;-) verdict there are 2 correct answers to todays ‘question’ a. BOTH or b. 335. I am gassing madly for a proper LP at the moment, but if i could only have one... well i’ve already got it. *VCQ Question - 1. Discuss the ergonomics of both, my view; LP smaller body ‘might’ be comfortable for some, but the 335 wins for upper fret reachability every time, but i love the position of the 3 way selector on the LP etc. 2. 50’s wiring vs standard - thoughts on both (i’ve 50s wiring on an epi LP and currently standard on my 335) my Christmas holiday project is putting in a new set of VIP pots with 50’s wiring into my 335 - not looking forward to doing it, but am looking forward to hearing it If you got this far thanks for reading. Just an awesome episode. cheers Lads.
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