Lessons in Magecraft 37 - Demon Hunters

[@otakudaikun]

Personally, I find the drama in the nasuverse interesting because all these crafts are in decline. We're not seeing them at their prime, which adds to that urban fantasy vibe. Do you agree, or would you prefer to see the age of gods stuff?

[@meinsternes4148]

Agreed!

[@pyronable]

Quite true. Another show that seems to capture that modern vs ancient magic comparison is Irregular at magic highschool.

[@primusvsunicron1]

@OtakuDaiKun what about the demon hunter known as Devilman?

[@kengox77]

I agree, but I would love to see a spinoff based on the age of gods.

[@ashchisalleh1454]

Did you see new one Samurai version?

[@garden_of_avalon]

I love these lessons in mage craft, I'm always pumped when they come out.

[@majoratwili7312]

honestly it's interesting because legit these alone can theoretically keep the channel going forever since the Nasuverse is massive and constantly growing

[@ComputerGamingg]

Wait.. 6 months ago?? Is it just me

[@michaelmutranowski123]

there's too many Shiki's in the Nasuverse

[@pyronable]

My understanding is that ESP wasn't magecraft, but a another form of Mystery. Though it's similar

[@otakudaikun]

I guess it's a bit semantic. Both Magecraft and ESP rely on mystery. It's just that one can be taught while the other is strictly biological.

[@pyronable]

@@otakudaikun Oh, no question about it. Both are supernatural in nature, just one seems to fall into the realm of pseudo-science than the other in most pieces of literature and media

[@ComputerGamingg]

6 months ago??? What

[@lenleon3699]

@@pyronable Funny part is that ESP in Nasu’s lore is more supernatural than magecraft itself. It is a power inherent only to bloodlines, impossible to be taught, and capable of even surpassing magecraft at times hence why they took it upon themselves to be demon hunters. Magecraft on the other hand is able to be taught, it works on very strict laws, can only create what already exists, and Nasu even loves using technological comparisons to describe it. Most of the truly impressive magecraft borders True Magic and is the exception, not the rule.

[@aimanfitry4527]

Personally, i will be really excited to see if we can see interactions between any demon hunter/ mixed blood lineage with clocktower stuff

[@ComputerGamingg]

4 months ago how

[@crocidile90]

@@ComputerGamingg patreons get early access to these videos early.

[@ComputerGamingg]

@@crocidile90 ohhhh nice

[@NEXUSKNIGHT2]

All I know is if Dante (Post Devil May Cry 5) landed in the Nasuverse He would have a field day fighting said nasuverse demons and maybe getting new devil arms from them. "THIS PARTY IS GETTING CRAZY!" *Cue Subhuman from Devil May Cry 5* and if Vergil? *Cue bury the light*

[@TheLoneWorg]

Can you imagine if a oni halfblood mates with a demon hunter and they produce offspring with demon blood and psychic powers?

[@kaybevang536]

If Tohno (Nanaya ) Shiki Banged Akiha basically?

[@シキ-n8p]

That’s basically what the Asakami clan turns out to be. According to Nasu, they worshipped the captured Mixed-Bloods as guardian gods and continued to interbreed with them, which caused them to almost become Mixed-Bloods themselves and diluted their bloodline. in turn, it leads to in the downfall of the Asakamis.

[@shinju112]

Man the nasuverse is freaking big. I find everything related to mages, magecraft and the grail war fascinating. Kara No Kyoukai hasn't sold me on what it is doing, Tsukihime's anime though has me wanting more. But that's because the vampire lore is crazy intriguing because of the old ones. There was also going to be another anime with mages but I forgot what it was called.

[@ShinJack_]

There is no tsukihime anime

[@shinju112]

@@ShinJack_ This is a meme I wasn't aware of.

[@lenleon3699]

Kara no Kyoukai very hit or miss. The more I read Mahoyo the more I realize it also critically underused Tohko. And of course Tohno Shiki has tons more awesome fights than Ryougi, especially when you take the Remake into account.

[@rejoicingfakepriest201]

I always appreciate more of Demonkind and Demon Hunter stuff. Tsukihime made me interested in delving more into this topic.

[@VacadoRay]

Um professor didn't u say you would be collecting the homework today😂😂

[@otakudaikun]

The homework is liking, sharing, commenting and subscribing.

[@WildArtistsl]

This makes me wonder if a new age of mystics would arrive like a huge invasion of Oni or other dimensional beings would Deamon hunters return?

[@izzymosley1970]

One thing I find very interesting about the nasuverse is the power system because in most power systems basically any character in that stories world can become a strong character if they train hard enough or at least get the right weapons but In the nasuverse it seems like if you're born a normal person they're seemingly nothing you can do to get stronger besides normal training which won't get you very far against pretty much any supernatural creature in the nasuverse.

[@lenleon3699]

That is incorrect in a way, as proven when delving into ancient warriors in the universe, the reason they were powerful was because they transcended human reasoning thus tapped into the mystical. For example, a lot of the Tohsaka’s magecraft was learned by their inherent belief that you could reach the root through martial arts, hence why they still practice Chinese martial arts, and it is explained Li Shuwen earned such mastery that he could indeed be superhuman (thus his Divine Spear moniker). Most Heian warriors where also superhuman and capable of defeating monsters by their mastery of swordsmanship. And of course both Musashi and Kojirou reached enlightenment and surpassed human limits close to True Magic with nothing but their sword (Musashi had a Mystic Eye though). Basically, it is less that regular humans are being portrayed as weak, but rather than the more modern humans relied on technology, the less powerful they became as individuals. Basically their ability to be stronger got diminished (which is true for mages too).

[@izzymosley1970]

@@lenleon3699 interesting so I guess there is more to the power system than I thought thanks for telling me.

[@joshuadunham3018]

Shirou wants you to hold his beer XD

[@izzymosley1970]

@@joshuadunham3018 well at least he can use his magic circuits and know magecraft exist which are two things most people in the nasuverse don't have.

[@justsomeerengoofyface]

Is magecraft and ESP in Nasuverse two sides of the same coin like Toaru or totally unrelated to each other?Does having ESP cause rejection syndrome to magus?Also If Toaru storyline exist in Nasuverse which timeline is the most fitting?Tsukihime,Fate,Kara no Kyoukai or Lord El Melloi II?

[@otakudaikun]

I honestly need to sit down and make a lesson on ESP to really figure that out.

[@stevepitt-ash4628]

Ohhh thank for another great lesson professor dai the type moon news have been hype lately with strange fake trailer and samurai remnants game what your thought on those trailers?

[@Asura_ig]

Have you made a video on the lore of just Shiki Tohno? Also great vid (saying this mostly out of Shiki Tohno bias)

[@otakudaikun]

No, but I did cover the whole remake.

[@Asura_ig]

@@otakudaikun I know that much it’s how I found your channel in the first placw

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

Dear God and I thought the church and mage association were bad but the demon hunters are a flaming trainwreck

[@Lemuel928]

Future times,they’re Demon Doom Slayers now.

[@primordial-chaos00]

Now I want to see dai chan as a oni. I wonder if nymphs might make appearance in fgo. I surprised Merlin Is not hunted Dowu by demon hunters. So being normal not a person who is not part of a demon hunter or mix bloodline is a advantage.

[@armandomendoza7371]

Why would Merlin, who spent most of his time in England, be hunted down by the DHO, which is from Japan, besides Merlin wasn't the type of demons they fought againts

[@ashchisalleh1454]

Dang, that one sad Kujo bloodlines end.. But I guess they end as human being.. Well action different case.. So alien invasion basically 99% success if those world timeline got no demon hunter? From Demon hunter EYES, maybe , alien or demon just same race but different place and shape, one from sky, other from earth. 😂 🔪✨👽👺

[@adamwhite6797]

Not gonna lie I've been using these lessons to help with world building for my d&d campaign. Sorcerers having magic in bloodline coming from demons the fey(or fey wild) and in the current story that my players are at they finding out about the war forge in the party and how he has the ability to be a cleric when normal war forges and constructs can not do magic and don't have a soul

[@jkosch]

Last time I was so early full-blooded Oni were still common and had a habit of entering the capital on certain times of the month. Last time I was so early the Nanaya were still feared and just having one with a kind of drumstick around was troubling for inhuman beings.

[@adnanjusufovic5177]

Hey Dai I’ve been meaning to ask you but have you ever thought making a ranking video about what is the best and worst Fate shows?

[@otakudaikun]

It's kinda hard since I love parts of all of them.

[@adnanjusufovic5177]

@@otakudaikun really? Because I remember in one of your videos you voiced your criticism of the Camelot duology?

[@otakudaikun]

@@adnanjusufovic5177 You're right I did. Maybe that would be a fun video.

[@hunterk679]

This is my first time watching a video, and I just have to say you sound like the Reaper dub voice from Assassination Classroom. It is a compliment. Love the video and just gained a new subscriber!

[@otakudaikun]

Thank you so much!

[@kaybevang536]

This is my kinda thing let’s go!!!!

[@barny541]

RIGHT ON TIME WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[@barny541]

Actually 6 months late but still :D

[@Asura_ig]

Wait is aoko’s hair red because she went ultra super demon whatever?

[@ArcueidBrunestudTypeVampire]

No shes a normal mage but just like Shirou, overuse of her ability caused a change in features.

[@Asura_ig]

@@ArcueidBrunestudTypeVampire so being a mage changed his skin color I see (this is a joke I know the real reason)

[@otakudaikun]

Nah, Aoko's hair changed from using powerful Magecraft.

[@armandomendoza7371]

@@otakudaikun Too much Blue made her go Red

[@VacadoRay]

Forgot the two greatest demon hunters Sam and Dean

[@otakudaikun]

That'd be a fun crossover.

[@VacadoRay]

@@otakudaikun I'm curious what servant role they would fall into

[@otakudaikun]

@@VacadoRay Avenger? They had a lot to avenge after all.

[@izzymosley1970]

How strong do you think the average person could get in the nasuverse assuming that they have infinite willpower and are willing to do anything to get stronger?

[@otakudaikun]

If you aren't born as a mage, you might have to use mage tech to compensate. That or go the Kiritsugu route where you learn about mages just to exploit their weaknesses. Maybe have someone create a homonculus with good circuits, and use it as a partner or new body for your mind.

[@izzymosley1970]

@@otakudaikun I find the inequality in the nasuverse's power system very interesting in most anime or anime inspired mediums like visual novels you see power systems where people can just train to get stronger in the power system sure some people may have certain talents for certain aspects of the power system but they can all train to get stronger in the nasuverse that is true for mages but normal people have to take more roundabout ways to get stronger instead of just doing the magical equivalent of working out or studying which I think is very interesting I haven't seen a video talking about the interesting inequality in the nasuverse's power system I think you should make a video on that I think it would be really interesting.

[@lyrasunshard3769]

So this is Kara no kyokai lore

[@lenleon3699]

Not…really? Well, sort of. KnK has characters from three of the four Demon Hunter families, though Fujou is considered a clan of magi for whatever reason. And Tsukihime features the strongest Demon Hunting family front and center (it also has two Fujou descendants).

[@otakudaikun]

KnK and Tsukihime technically.

[@axelnetzahualcoyotl5223]

That was a really great lesson and a great way to start this year.

[@nouveauscripter1718]

You've gotta address the Mordred describing the Pict as aliens in the London singularity next time

[@gumigun1155]

otakudaikun great video you make such awesome this is one of best lessons in magecraft yet hope you make videos about other anime too like higurashi

[@exodus3113]

Interesting

[@Sawtooth44]

AYYYYY the next one is about me!

[@squeegs3409]

Love your videos, keep up the hard work!!!

[@kianmcgurk3377]

Have you ever thought of compiling everything into a book of sorts?

[@otakudaikun]

Not really. I'm just explaining someone else's lore in my own way.

[@kianmcgurk3377]

@@otakudaikun No bother👍

[@whendarknessfalls6969]

Shiki is wifu

[@Asura_ig]

WOOHOO DAIKUN LORE VID

[@monsoul777]

could you imagine a crossover manga between tsukihime and kara no kyouki

[@otakudaikun]

Kara no Kyokai crosses into the El Melloi novels.