Lesta Soviet BCs - The Most Vodka-Infused Designs

[@Flamuu]

That fucking bow armor at 12:50 still cracks me up, battlecruiser btw. Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz Discord: discord.gg/Flamu Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/

[@dodgedaytona7435]

They should have made it historically accurate, the soviets could never make cemented armor thicker than 230mm. So no soviet bb in game should armor thicker than 230mm on their belt.

[@tahiribnmohammad5410]

'What is this Abomination' 'Can't wait to play it' Flamu 2024

[@wun1gee]

I like how the tier 8 gets a fantasy 16"/52 but the Constellation, Kansas and Minnesota can't have the 16"/50s that were actually designed, thoroughly tested and serially-constructed in large numbers for them.

[@OverlordAntares]

This. I love the concept of the Constellation but it gets shafted by its guns hard.

[@seductive_fishstick8961]

@@OverlordAntares fr, i still enjoy constellation but it would have been so much better with the 50s

[@Axel23410]

Meanwhile French BBs have to sacrifice so much for their "speed" (republique max 34 knots when speedboost lmao), namely plating thickness and dispersion And this line just fucking gets everything and some additional perks

[@thegoldenbunny4020]

republic has those amazing high pen guns, fantastic balistics and velocity and near best in class fire rate for t10 bb. Its not sacrificing armour for only speed

[@Axel23410]

​​@@thegoldenbunny4020this may have been true back in 2018. Excepr Republique's firepower is nothing special at T10 nowadays. Ships like Ohio or St Vincent have equally devastating guns while lacking any of République's shortcomings. And keep in mind that République, unlike the aforementioned ships, is still plagued with the garbage french dispersion formula. There is absolutely zero reasons to take République over St. Vincent. She's faster, she has way better firepower. She's tankier, she's more accurate and so on and so forth.

[@dewannee]

It is confirmed in Vodka's logic: Destroyer = Light Cruiser Light Cruiser = Heavy Cruiser Heavy Cruiser = Battle Cruiser Battle Cruiser = Battleship Battleship = Super Battleship Super Battleship = Megalodon??? And we haven't mention about submarine and carrier... nice Vodka I say 😁

[@ivanmonahhov2314]

IIRC all submarines on proposed tree were real pre war subs.Ended with K1

[@eiresby2344]

submarine = missile silo

[@clmwrx]

Cv = plane and pilot manufacturing facility

[@clmwrx]

They aren't aircraft carriers in this game. Aircraft creators lol

[@Dragons_Armory]

*Star Destroyer

[@DrakeHunter324]

The fictional Soviet BS.......BC line. Full suite of Stalinium bow armour, rounds that penetrate 40 inches of titanium alloy and WG approved accuracy. Balans.

[@gustavchambert7072]

Yeeesh. Look at the underwater profile of that t10. No way in hell that thing would be capable of anything even remotely approaching 30 knots, let alone freaking forty ....

[@user-lh5fp7bf2c]

Exactly. Can't imagine the amount of grease they have to use to grease that hull down for the 40 knot test run.

[@jhe-vaughnseverin6765]

well that if it had nuclear propulsion yes but that wasnt invented yet lol

[@marcuswaterson]

I saw the gun caliber being 406 and thought "well hey atleast it's not contributing to the overmatch problem." Then I found out that this is supposed to be a 1914 design... Also I saw someone mention that the back turret can turn 360-degrees? Can't wait to see the angles on that thing.

[@Zenitchik_130]

Don't forget Tier IX is also somewhere around 1918, no way soviets would ever call something in Kornilov's honour

[@taserrr]

This ship is as real as Putin's re-election.

[@John_McCarthy1]

ah the ship line no one was asking for

[@j_Snow]

More stalinium bias

[@hardkur]

impossible , spread sheet say otherwise

[@jackconrad2667]

Any bb cruiser or dd line addition is better then subs and carriers

[@themarcineuu1336]

I guess everyone was waiting for japanese sub line with I400 as premium with planes and french carrier line instead.

[@Starmine1231]

I asked for this

[@gustavchambert7072]

Can we also just take a moment to talk about the fact that the t9 has freaking twelve 406mm guns. While zooming around at 41 knots at 12km concealment. Man, I really don't want to think about the size of that crack pipe...

[@wombat4191]

And 13.4k shell alpha, almost the same as WWII era USN Super Heavy 406 mm AP. On a 1914 design. Other BC's with supposed WWI era designs get much lower alpha, for example Rupprecht 11.5k. If that's anything to go by, the pen is probably going to be closer to WWII standards as well. Also, that HE is lowkey pretty good, only RN HE of similar size is objectively better while most others are objectively worse. Actually, seems pretty standard Soviet 406 mm HE, never noticed that it's actually quite good.

[@Nutty31313]

so what you're telling me is that this thing is a better armoured Minnesota that does double the speed for practically no downside...

[@josynaemikohler6572]

Do you notice, what ALL battlecruisers in WoWS have in common, regardless if they are part of a dedicated BC tech tree, or in the BB tech tree, or a premiumship? (Even if we ignore the armor, which became a trade mark for all dedicated BC lines, there are still some oddities). They have a trash turning radius. Because battlecruisers need a very long and slim hull. Which is why high tier battlecruisers have a turning radius of 950-1160 meters. But this ship neither has the hull form, nor the turning radius.

[@vaikkajoku]

with 500 000 hp anything is possible, comrade

[@wombat4191]

Battlecruisers: Slim and long hulls, thinner plating to achieve their top speeds. This thing: "Da komrat, shape is Vermont but vith Stalin approved armor, turn vell like komrat Lada and speed like jet plane vith vodka koolant. Harasho! Downside, is designed by dirty tzarist regime."

[@admiralfrazier306]

According to gamemodels data mining, the tier X has 200k horsepower

[@aeve1975]

shouldn`t be enough, even the tier 9 need's around 250k for it's max speed

[@admiralfrazier306]

@@aeve1975 According to the site, the tier 9 only has 144k

[@aeve1975]

​@@admiralfrazier306yea not sure how they got that value i scaled up the HP needed by the izmael that came out to over 250k

[@WhySolSirius]

These ships must weigh like 2 Bismarcks, how do they get up to those speeds lmao.

[@maeror1022]

These are just automatically the best battleships in the game now aren't they? They auto bounce everything from the front, they have huge guns, and they have the maneuverability of a destroyer.

[@arandomvietnamese1687]

Still waiting for the supper ship at Vermont branch.

[@snorkman2]

The "Moremont"

[@jaywerner8415]

The Tillman class with 15 457mm guns. Only does 18 knots.

[@MagnusVictor2015]

I mean, something with 12 (4x 3) 20" guns would be an absolute meme.

[@nonunified2124]

This is a design from World War 1 lol.

[@Flamuu]

Yep, it's not even soviet, but imperial russian. Lesta claims its from designs from 1914 lmao. I cover it at 29:55

[@nonunified2124]

​@@Flamuu This isn't even the most absurd design from that era they could go with, there was another one that had 16 406mm guns in a Lyon-style layout. Also to be extremely nitpicky I think they got the secondaries wrong, iirc they were supposed to be a new design 52-caliber 152mm gun.

[@ResultofFailedbirthcontrol]

@@nonunified2124don’t forget the Tillman battleships

[@ChrisRand-gf7lz]

The Soviets were literally so far ahead of everyone everyone else in terms of Naval design in WW1, as evident of these "Battle Cruisers" that by the time WW2 came around, the Soviets had literally gone full circle and were behind everyone else in terms of Naval design and capability. That's that superior Soviet engineering for you.

[@DarkRipper117]

The literal "am two parallel universes ahead of you" lol....that's just ridiculous at this point.😂

[@ryssa2409]

chimpanzee sees no difference between design and actual doctrine use i see

[@stephenkolostyak4087]

but... but.. analysis of stuff and things said...

[@KHETTIUS]

So a BC that has speed, heavy armor, heavy gun batteries, strong secondaries, strong AA and is short and fat like a BB. WG completely ignoring the tenents of ship building of the era, i mean we know they have always ignored any semblence of balancing, WG reinforcing reasons never to touch this ambomination of a game.

[@Axel23410]

Except this is not WG, this is Lesta. THis line is coming to the russian game, not World of warships WG's upcoming french DD tech tree is pretty good when it comes to historical accuracy

[@hijikata530]

@@Axel23410 I don't think people read the title of the videos.

[@KHETTIUS]

@@Axel23410different sides of the same coin.

[@Axel23410]

@@KHETTIUS No. Lesta and WG are not related anymore. Mir Korabli and World of warships are now different games

[@Aha_s_Fake_Emanator]

Battlecruiser meaning: a type battleship that sacrifices armor for speed, it should be fast enough to run away from ships it cannot deal with while having firepower to destroy anything that can catch up to it Safe to say it isn't a battlecruiser but a fast battleship with engine boost, proof that Russia has no idea how to classify ships, I thought lesta was doing good because of the nerfs to CVs there, looks like I was wrong

[@stefanocrosazzo3262]

As long as they keep nerfing CVs, they can add as many bs fantasy ships as they see fit. CVs will always be worse than even the most cracked surface ship

[@jussi8111]

quad turrets.... why am i not suprised

[@yaseen157]

Truly incredible scenes, 42 knots in a high tier bb that isn't georgia 😅

[@verde5738]

Remember when the French BBs were supposed to be the "fast" BB line? Now every other new BB line goes 32kn+ and gets a 15% Speed Boost xD

[@B1g_Salad]

Some unbelievable physics going on over there at Lesta. I’ll have what they’re smoking!

[@John_McCarthy1]

how are these even battlecruisers anyway? they have speed but don't seem to give up either armor or armament in anyway, they just have high speed for no reason.

[@maudrysilvain5905]

tovarish, sekrit dokuments shows soviet battlecruisers have as much armor as any other's nation battleships because reasons

[@woland_]

In Soviet Russia, battlecruiser is battleship carrying cruiser inside. This gives armour of both, and speed of both.

[@shatteredstar2149]

Secret 1914 gas turbine engines by Russian engineers. Only bested by modern MTU engines.

[@mkkttmttr3401]

They probably have nuclear reactors as power source to have such an speed with that much armor lol

[@marcofava]

Of course those famous vodka cooled Nuclear Reactors invented by Tsar Nicholas II himself 😂

[@jtojagicc]

IJNbros, it's so Yodover for us

[@johnsmith-kd8br]

That toer ten armor scheme looks like see version of is7

[@johnsmith-kd8br]

30.50 it just proves that soviets invented new laws os phisics😂

[@ivanmonahhov2314]

Those look like concepts of Imperial design aside from TX . The magic in them is low sailing range and shitty crew quaters.

[@lelmone6856]

"Soviet battlecruisers, had they been built, would have been among the finest warships in the world."

[@smolnoodle]

dont forget that tier 10 bb guns (A and X) can rotate 360 degrees because of reasons

[@120420]

Still waiting for the BullShit Stats of The Red October!!

[@vonrheinland4924]

These "Things" are exactly the reason, why I left WoWs. Such a great time it was, when the ships were at least laid down to build and some shipbuilders and engineers thought them out.

[@Jedi_Master_Obi-Wan_Kenobi66]

I want to see the following Battleship split with the following premiums enter the game in my lifetime: III Michigan IV Utah V Nevada VI Pennsylvania VII Tennessee VIII South Dakota IX New Jersey X New Hampshire VI Nevada '42 VIII Washington Give them good secondaries, temporary speed boosts, or radar.

[@meganoobbg3387]

Judging by the California's sorry state this line will also have everything till Tier 7 be 21 knot tin cans everyone skips - while a secondary gimmick on US BB's would be redundant, even on the Tier 8 and above, unless they give them built in IF HE and better range like the german ones, and if not better armor, better DCP and heal. Also if they don't rework the plane and submarine outspotting - they'll need to have good AA and ASW which 100% they won't get.

[@AshCatTrainz]

Another American bb line?

[@Jedi_Master_Obi-Wan_Kenobi66]

@AshCatTrainz it's what I wanted the American BB line split to look like, instead we got things that were absolute fever dreams over the ships that actually existed.

[@Jedi_Master_Obi-Wan_Kenobi66]

@meganoobbg3387 When I though of this line I thought of 2 things, give these ships speed boosts, and give them the old Soviet BB radar that the Soviet BBs were gonna have.

[@khangan4334]

I wonder if these ships were exist irl, could it move or even float?

[@Koko-sn9in]

"It comes to use we made a mistake. It is not a battlecruiser, it's a Battle machine made for the emperor"

[@old_guard2431]

That duck waddles really fast. . .

[@Edi_J]

Tzar Russia TOP DESIGN was the Ismail, and even that was heavily licensed from the West and depended on foreign shipbuilding experts. Dumb communist primitives who "made the Revolution" and killed or forced to flee all smart and thinking Russians didn't even have the skill to finish a single Ismail-class ship even a DECADE later. The largest ship designed and build by the Soviets before 1950 were crappy failures called Leningrad-class destroyers. They could not even design light cruisers, their heavy cruisers were failed copies of Italian ships, their battleship-caliber guns were only at TESTING in 1941 (small difference from 1914, just 2 digits swapped). Those cheaters promised us a historical naval game, and here is what they have produced.

[@merafirewing6591]

Realistically those russian battlecruisers would only be able to push up to 28 or 30 knots.

[@Lunkwow]

Admiral CornHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLIO!!!!!

[@jaywerner8415]

For anyone wondering, at least according to google 25mms is 1 inch. So these battlecruisers has 3 inches of russian steel covering their bows. By comparison, most BBs have like 1 inch and a half or 32mms.

[@moritzpopp1326]

1 Inch is 25.4 mm, so 15 Inch gun is 381mm guns, and 18.1 Inch is 460mm.

[@Dominik-kl3tz]

Thanks for this extensive review of work safety measures at Lesta. Glad for the employees they were able to remove any danger of someone falling out of a window.

[@user-lh5fp7bf2c]

Soviets somehow went from not building a single modern battleship to apparently being the best in the world by far. All while not even building and completing a single one lol... gotta love how a ship less streamlined than a actual 1800s dreadnought can do 40 KNOTS lol

[@BPKPhoenix]

Man... poor miss Monty is not only alone, she's been forcibly isolated, in the corner of some dark lint-coated room kicking a few rocks for enjoyment and crying her eyes out every moment of her life now. Thanks WG.

[@stephenkolostyak4087]

it's a "Look how great we are if we have money" fantasy.

[@yogikhan1936]

The Wand of Soviet Magical Engineering strikes again. Well done WG.

[@junkiexl86]

You mean Lesta? 🤦‍♂

[@yogikhan1936]

@@junkiexl86 WG is Lesta, do not believe their lies.

[@jackconrad2667]

Sadly I would rather deal with these bbs than carriers and subs.

[@bogatyr2473]

Loves the look of the Alaska and the Scharnhorst? Man of refined taste.

[@Yukon.72]

Russian\CIS client still show horse power Also, that t10 by plans had 18 torp tubes as well. But its speed was planned as 25knots on 67.5k hp engine

[@fatherland5057]

Don’t forget the T10 has a 360 rear turret 😂

[@V3rt1g0s]

Let the cash grab begin!

[@kaollachan]

wow that T10 s like stalin bourgogne

[@maartensaueressig8215]

I'd like to see the math of A: How much this thing weighs B: How much HP you'd require to move that weight through the Water at 42.5 Knots (~80KPH), C: How much Strain is put on the rudder And lastly, D: How big the Explosion would be if you Cit that Nuclear-powered Abomination, Because clearly, this thing would need at least TWO modern nuclear Reactors to get that Speed-

[@ME262MKI]

Apparently ruZZian BBs don't need crew accomodations nor fuel storage compartments, engines, generators and food so they can hide the entire super structure below deck..... 😂😂😂😂

[@Dragons_Armory]

Keep in mind that the OP X tier will one day have a Super version too.

[@Dragons_Armory]

Ah, Fat and Fast, the Sammo Hung of BCs

[@xmlthegreat]

Re: ships looking good in port, it's mostly good lighting with what looks to me like some shader code to increase contrast Edit: it's a spot light versus a diffuse/area light in the other port

[@casthor64]

Kinda amazing how nowadays some bbs run faster than dds, maybe they should consider buffing some destroyers speed cause it's kinda bonkers to see bbs going 37-38 knots and some dds without speedboost do less than that, that's my humble thought as I've seen the powercreep of the old tech trees dds going so slow compared to not new dds but even new bbs

The Title though...😂😂😂

[@Phantom__MC]

The t10 bb is hilarious, it looks like a Vermont with it’s thickness, especially with the torp protection. How TF can it go with this amour and displacement this fast. That makes no sense XD

[@DaylightFan4449]

oh *DAMN* that T10 is thicc in the middle

[@tangotone1241]

I swear WarmoneyGrub smokes some dammmm top grade crack

[@tsuaririndoku]

3:25 Somehow this thing have IJN Cruiser Nose. With icebreaker.

[@thegoldenbunny4020]

Honestly if you compare this to Schlieffen i think it makes sense (still a tad overpowered on stats side of things). Like Schlieffen has to be weakly armored to compensate its extremely absurd secondary's, Schlieffen is also a lot smaller than this. If this thing was overmatch able on the nose I don't see how it could ever even function in a match. Its belt armor seems a bit too high for how small it seems but ultimately will be balanced by its guns

[@phleetofph0gg]

WW1 designs causing 1960's cruisers to cry a river? Is this 2017 conqueror?

[@Southern1581Trainz]

12:54 the ice never stood a fucking chance

[@tzarcaz_4385]

I don’t play this game but I do enjoy your vids

[@mihaitha]

Admiral Kornilov... isn't that Kurt Cobain's wife?

[@Sigrid_Von_Sincluster]

thous things have more armor than most BBs in the game, how the fuck are they clased as BCs?!?

[@LaNfinity]

Dont't take the pills and drink... These are battlecruisers without battlecruiser weaknesses...

[@404found00]

Is it me or does the Tier 7 ship have a random secondary turret right at its bow

[@marvelous5038]

ATTENTION PEOPLE THIS IS NOT WG ITS LESTA.

[@Flamuu]

Considering it's in the title, thumbnail and description, I'd have hoped people would've understood that.

[@panzermensch1577]

Remember when the Russians wanted like 6 Soyutz BBs and couldn't even finish 1..

[@eiresby2344]

Trust me, seems the T9 can divide antartica by herself with that amount of icebreaker lol

[@Timberjac]

Come on, WG is still smoking vodka-soaked napkins for breakfast.

[@MrSchwabentier]

this is not WG

[@Timberjac]

@@MrSchwabentier The game has changed developers and is no longer WarGaming?

[@MrSchwabentier]

@@Timberjacno. The Company that published the game was WarGaming. The studio that developed the game for WG was Lesta. During the Russian Invasion and the sanctions the two split. Now there are two games that are called WOWS. One is developed and published by WarGaming, that's the one we all play in EU and North America. And the other one is developed and published by Lesta, thats the one on the Russian server. At the moment the two split, both WOWS versions were identical. But as time progresses they will develop into different directions. Now these ships here are for the Russian server. TZhey won't arrive on the EU and NA servers, unless WG decides to buy the designs from Lesta. But even then, the stats will probably differ. Hope this helps and isn't too confusing

[@Timberjac]

@@MrSchwabentier Thank you very much for the explanation. I really walked away from this game disappointed by the arcade system of the aircraft carriers, because I like handling ships and I liked the more old tactical system of the aircraft carriers more than the console reform. And just as they were with the submarines, which looked like submarines of the cold war or even modern in their mechanics more than submarines of the time of the rest of the ships, I ended up withdrawing from the game. Again, thank you very much for taking the time to give such a comprehensive summary of the current situation. Best regards.

[@slimtim1969]

Battle Cruiser power creep

[@VUO4E]

The Ruskis are in need of a victory, even if it's virtual with paper ships...

[@jacksonevoX20S]

I cant even explain wtf that tier 10 is,

[@Apemania69]

rudershift 13s, khaba rly felt down to the trash area over all this time. fix khaba and give it 100mm armor all arround xD

[@pendragooon]

Naaaaah Flolo. This is 😂

[@descriptiondescriptiondescript]

Design from 1914 btw LOL

[@andreaspedersen3952]

Quite interesting to see how they use the experience of actually building ships against most countries, while Russia gets a "free-card" on fantasy ships?

[@junkiexl86]

That the nature of the beast. If you want to flesh out nations, there's only so many actual ships to use. Not everyone had a standing deep navy like the US and UK etc. So you have to either make straight up fantasy ships, or use designs from ships that were designed but not laid down. I don't mind it so much, as long as balance is part of the equation.

[@V-V1875-h]

stronger belt than yamato, of course

[@gauthijm]

im confused, will this be in NA WoWS or is it Russia only ? Thx in advance

[@MrSchwabentier]

only Russia. Lesta is seperated from WG now

[@charleslynch340]

These aren't coming to regular servers right?

[@MrSchwabentier]

depends on what you define as the regular servers. If you mean the EU or NA servers, then no.

[@JerzeyBoy]

I can build better more sensible fantasy vodka ships on Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts

[@le_potate3861]

The reason it looked so good is they used a different lighting technique in the new port. You saw a lot more reflection, contrast, and most importantly SHADOWS. The dark space is what makes everything pop. Global illumination vs point illumination. Edit: Someone send this to Flamu btw

[@filipzietek5146]

Unironicly looks like a mobile game compared to warthunder

[@robertgallehawk3179]

Isn’t Burger still faster than this thing?

[@sozetsukokai9327]

do they mix cocaine into the vodka over at lesta?

[@robertlindsay6671]

At this point, why play any other nation for any ship type?

[@PLMassTahh]

no fog

[@tacoboy2218]

Vodka is technically a salad

[@MiiFone1]

wasted 3 min on a fixation on a hallucination

[@Schumilex5]

i quit the game a few years ago, someone sent this video in a meme channel and i watched a few mins of it, all i can say same game same problem same people. Nothing has chanched, no wonder the playercount doesng go up or down they have their own market of people they can exploit who will stay there eveb with the abuse and by the looks of it they are making off good money on you.

[@franciscoaranda4132]

These ships are gonna be in the game ?

[@junkiexl86]

RU server

[@franciscoaranda4132]

@@junkiexl86 thanks

[@linweixiao4732]

Russian always has its fantasy of a Grand Fleet in its imperal dream. Thanks to IJN on the victory of Tsushima that made its dream not on reality but in WoWs.

[@kasugaryuichi9767]

Lesta and WG still salty about 1905

[@therecklesswarlock6439]

these are some of the most ugly ships i have ever seen

[@petermikus2363]

Isn't this RU only tough?

[@jedhaney3547]

...Weren't the Russians known for their inablilty to make armor plates? lol