Budget Micro 9mm Secretly the BEST?!? - Stoeger STR-9MC

[@josefrausto1638]

You mentioned true shot you got a code for them? 👀

[@byronh77]

Manufacturer rebates. Usually 50.00

[@NightwoodGuns]

nightwoodguns-ammo 😎👍

[@MastermindRell]

This just for ammo and not the gun correct.

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@MastermindRell correct 👍

[@dkruitz]

Mine just arrived today. Everything you are saying is spot on, am impressed with the fit and finish and will take it to the range this weekend. Stoeger also has a $75 rebate right now, so jump on these if you can!

[@Leongreat]

Can you let me know how many magazines come with the gun? Thanks.

[@GeorgiaBoyJake]

I have the STR-9C and dang what a gun for the price!!! I love it!!

[@esoteridactyl]

I just got the SC for my first gun, but you're right the biggest issue is just not enough out there so there's no grips, nearly no holsters, magazines hard to find, etc.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Yep, it seems they wanted to release a cheap gun into the market and not invest in its accessibility. They didn’t even have the money for marketing 😂 At least the gun is awesome. Hopefully it catches on!

[@808G8GT]

Ive been hearing good things about stoeger firearms. It might be the next canik.

[@NightwoodGuns]

If the STR series catches on, it very well could be. I’m getting in now while they are crazy cheap.

[@brandonlme4121]

Well Canik and Stoeger are made in Turkey 🤔

[@SWAMPCRACKER17]

The Turks seem to know how to make good,reliable firearms

[@nealcarver5075]

Last year I bought Canik TP9 SC Elite and a Stoeger STR-9C. Love the Canik but Stoeger was probably the best out of the box gun ever

[@antrios3111]

The way ur talking about this gun just made me love it and want it at the same time

[@NightwoodGuns]

It’s hard to go wrong for the price 🤷‍♂️

[@antrios3111]

Where did u get it from I've been looking for the optics ready and can't find it

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@antrios3111 Got it from my local shop, but I had to order it since they didn’t have the optic ready model in stock.

[@jimchambers7548]

Cant always judge a gun by the price. The CZ PIO, Beretta APX, Shield Plus all under 400 and great pistols.

[@m4rvinmartian]

Shield isn't great. It's just 'is'.

[@jimchambers7548]

@@m4rvinmartian ok, dependable was word I was looking for. Whatever works for ya🔫

[@NightwoodGuns]

Fair enough 👍 There are some decent budget options out there!

[@waterboy239]

Beretta apx amazing gun , I shouldn't of sold it 😢😢😢

[@Scentimental_V]

I might add the iwi masada slim it's right there with em on performance and quality for around $430

[@forestcop2399]

Excellent review. I can honestly say that your voice inflextion,motivation, and knowledge are top notch.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I’m glad you enjoyed the review 😎👍

[@Thabosshoss]

Have heard lots of good things about Stoeger. Made in Turkey, but owned by Beretta I believe. Good stuff!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Owned by Benelli who is owned by Beretta, so you are correct! 😂👍

[@T13one-ET]

Thanks for the review, I got this before the rebate.....sad. My experience is pretty much the same as what you described. The gun performed 100% reliable out of the box with at least 6 different brands of ammo. It's now on 500 rounds without a single hiccup and compared to the P365, I don't find it any more snappy or uncomfortable to shoot. The two biggest downsides are the slide serration and the sharp rear sights which digs into your skin. Hopefully it will gain some traction and will have more aftermarket support in the future.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Fingers crossed that the popularity picks up! 😎👍 It certainly impressed me!

[@E52O4]

I remember when the Taurus GX4 was the new hotness. Bought one because it was cheap ($263 out the door), with two 11 round Mecgar magazines (I bought the +2 extensions and springs combo, for 13+1 and spare 13 capacity). The only changes I made were night sights and Hogue grip. After 250 round break in (and over 1,500 rounds total) including JHP, FMJ and Tula steel case it’s performed without any hiccups. Best part is I can find aftermarket support (Glock sights, kydex IWB holster). It’s accurate at self-defense distances, but I can reliably hit what I’m aiming at out to 50 yards.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I’ve heard great things about the GX4 👍 (except for the recall…)

[@michaelstouffer8580]

@@NightwoodGunsof course no other manufacturer has ever had a recall. I give Taurus credit over some others, i.e. Sig, for publicly recognizing the issue with those early GX4’s and initiating the recall. They could’ve ignored and/or denied the issue like Sig did for so long with their P365 but they didn’t. I’m not trashing on Sig or the P365 at all, it’s a great pistol and loved by many and Sig is deservedly a well regarded manufacturer. I’m simply pointing out that even the most respected manufacturers have had issues and Taurus has earned some measure of respect for their response when it was their turn. Now, how about you get this Stoeger out there alongside the Taurus GX4XL and the Sig P364XL for a comparison review. Maybe you would think of others to fit into that category to include as well. Your findings would be well worth watching. In the meantime, keep up the good work.

[@waterboy239]

50 yards is pretty tough for most compact pistols, most of the guys I shoot with even with full size they have problems hitting at 50 yds on steel, you might be a little hard on yourself, misread your comment you do hit it 50 yards with that wow you're a good shot

[@navydaniel2]

I've owned one for about 4 months. So far so good. Great with a Shield SMSC. N8 Tactical makes a decent holster for it.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Very nice! I didn’t know N8 was making a holster for it 👍

[@Panigale1199r1]

Is there a cheaper red do that I can use, but works well???

[@N.R.S.412]

I like this pistol and had my eye on it since it came out, $350 with $50 rebate is a great deal. Thanks for putting this up

[@NightwoodGuns]

Absolutely 😎👍

[@stanthebamafan]

I’m glad you mentioned holster availability. That’s something a lot of new gun owners don’t think about when they go out and buy a less popular gun that’s otherwise a nice gun.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Exactly. Nothing like buying your first carry gun only to find out no one makes a holster for it… 😬

[@paulis7319]

@@NightwoodGuns Sticky holsters are great as a temporary fix, and it's pretty easy to make Kydex holster if you're a DIY person (lots of instructional videos online).

[@websales1681]

Found a nice tuckable carbon fiber holster on ebay

[@frost8077]

I keep forgetting Stoeger is even a brand. I'm surprised I don't hear about them more often. The trigger guard undercut looks wonderful, but I'd have to hold it to see if it fits my hand. I had to buy a Hogue for my G3c to overcome the long trigger pull. The Stoeger STR-9SC looks promising with the handle hump to add depth to the grip.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Yeah, Stoeger is doing a surprisingly good job with these 👍

[@marcsmith2033]

Any further updates on this Stoger? Just wanted to know if it’s holding up okay?

[@Jeteye_Mindgames]

I carry this handgun and it's such a joy.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Very nice! I’m surprised someone else actually has this gun! 😂👍

[@DanTheWolfman]

Got mine back, was still a bit high but was really able to crank it down to make it good & filmed comparing it 3-way battle vs Shield Plus & Max9, 25 yards & JHPs too!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Very nice! Glad to hear it! 👍

[@mikealee1978]

I just got two of these on a Black Friday sale. Thanks for the comprehensive review. The magazines are definitely stiff but I remembered some kel tek and ar mags recommend tapping the mag after loading five rounds or so. I tried the tapping method on these mags and they loaded much easier.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Very nice! I’m glad the review was helpful!

[@Greenmachine305]

Your shooting form impressed me.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Once in a blue moon you run across a “gun-tuber” who can actually shoot 👍 There are a few of us 😂

[@Greenmachine305]

@@NightwoodGuns Just a few.

[@jasonwolfe9892]

Just bought the str9sc I believe for my wife. It’s the one that resembles the Glock 26 in size. I also just ordered the str40 from Buds. Figured for 300 with a 50 dollar rebate why not.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Hard to go wrong for that price 😎👍

[@greko137]

I owned the 9c and the 9sc may get this one too after your review..

[@NightwoodGuns]

Very nice! 😎👍

[@leelytle8049]

Came here to say, thank you for showing some love to Stoeger. These guns are very underrated, reliable, and fun to shoot. I have the STR-9S (+1500rds) Combat and STR-9SC (+400rds). Love those guns. As stated, just need more holster support. When your looking for a good bang for your buck, these are it. And it surprises me when you see budget list and they always include a Taurus but never these. I own a Taurus and it's trash compared to these. Just my two cents. Great review. Cheers!

[@NightwoodGuns]

You know what’s up! 😎👍 Glad you enjoyed the review!

[@MultiDJ3000]

On Palmetto state armory’s website it’s on sale for $225 with a $75 rebate

[@NightwoodGuns]

Nice! 🙌

[@MultiDJ3000]

@ I had to snag one lol, new carry gun!

[@tym551]

Just ordered mine from PSA as well. Had just ordered a Taurus GX4, in transit to my FFL, but this Stoeger deal was too good to pass on. $149 is crazy

[@ShotzWithJ]

my homie has the str9c (not mc), and he really enjoys it as his carry. I've gotten to shoot it a couple of times and I think these are underrated as well, namely the good ergonomics and trigger

[@NightwoodGuns]

Very nice! I agree 😎👍

[@24grizzy]

np..... .

[@marshallridleyii3454]

Stoeger STR 9 MC is everything that you stated after going through several different firearms and talking to other colleagues I say it’s better than the shield plus but not better than the shield plus performance center due to the trigger the size is perfect. the grip and handling is fantastic

[@NightwoodGuns]

Nice, I’m glad you like it! 😎👍

[@hakimthumb]

I have eyed these and was considering other options. You convinced me. likely pick up one now

[@Five-o-i7z]

Just discovered your channel-awesome review. I was thinking of purchasing this, as I have a full size Stoeger and am very happy with it. Thanks for the terrific review. Definitely will purchase one now.

[@christopherm8215]

I have had multiple stoegers and currently have a str-9sc and have never had any issue with them matter of a fact i got my current str-9sc on sale for $219.99 with a $50mir so $169.99 which is a deal. I do want to state though its only a deal if you keep it as is and not looking for any mods but for that price i only got 1 10rnd mag and mags are $35 each and i bought 3(2 13rnd and 1 more 10rnd) thats $105 not counting tax and shipping or the $40 holster that puts me at $449.57 all in after transfer fee and at that price there is many options out there and that brings me to my point on this gun from this vid. Right now the base model is selling around $359.99 with a $50mir with no optics cut and 2 mags but the enhanced model being about $100 more opens up a lot of competition. I have seen just today the hellcat gear up pak for $399 or the canik mete mc for $399 or a shield plus or for $299.99 so that's the issue i think for this gun is if you stick with the cheapest option it is a deal, however if you want the better option it puts it in line with big name options. Dont get me wrong i love my stoeger and dont regret my purchase it is a great gun and extremely accurate but right now as of this moment theres other options too that i think many people would consider over the stoeger.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Well said! Thanks for your input! 👍

[@JhonVargas-h8o]

What site buds grab a g sportsman exc?

[@christopherm8215]

@@JhonVargas-h8o grab a gun, but sadly promo ended last month

[@NEWYORK577]

I have the spr9 it's a great gun and I agree about everything you saying

[@NightwoodGuns]

😎👍

[@dylanunderpar]

Stoeger handled my brand new 12guage M3000 extraction issues with ease, it now runs like the 1/2 priced Benelli that I wanted it to be!

[@Lakanen263]

I own the bigger one and it’s a good gun I am interested to see how this feels in the hand nice review. Thanks.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Stoeger is definitely bringing it! It just seems like they don’t have much of a marketing budget. These are great pistols and I’d love to see them gain some traction.

[@Bullseye45]

Glad i found your channel a while back. I like the content. Keep up the great work.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I’m glad you’ve been enjoying the channel! Thanks for the support 😎👍

[@KnifeNinjaEDC]

Awesome video, Brett! If I didn’t already have a micro compact this would be a winner.

[@NightwoodGuns]

It’s pretty darn good! Which micro are you running, btw?

[@paulis7319]

I keep a couple Sticky holsters around as a backup and most micro/compact 9's fit perfectly in them. I used to carry my Hi-Point C9 in one and had no trouble. I'm pretty sure the Stoeger would also fit. I know my Taurus GX4 fits (currently using Taurus' proprietary GX4 holster).

[@NightwoodGuns]

That’s one way to go about it in a pinch, I just strongly prefer Kydex or leather holsters that can actually attach to a belt.

[@paulis7319]

@@NightwoodGuns I agree 100%

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@paulis7319 😎👍

[@cosmolean]

I've been looking at these Stoeger pistols for awhile. This micro would make a nice pack gun for mountain biking and disc golf.

[@NightwoodGuns]

😎👍

[@dannybarton940]

Well...I watched it to the end, liked and commented. I don't live in AZ. It's cold out. I will carry a full size DW 1911 and not think about Micro 9s until April or May. Always enjoy your vids!

[@surfingonmars8979]

Sonny, a $300 gun? Your mom and I always told you that if you needed money just call your Uncle Claude….

[@m4rvinmartian]

This is the way.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I typically carry full-size too. But these micro carry guns are popular 😂🤷‍♂️

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@surfingonmars8979 😂👍

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@m4rvinmartian Agreed 👍

[@greggambill7791]

Nerd out, brother!!! I agree with everything you said. Another review I watched said that the optic cover was fastened down with flat head style screws. Lol. I'm not sure if there's a 1st and 2nd generation...

[@NightwoodGuns]

Glad you enjoyed! Yeah, I think that was a pre-release model with the flat head screws.

[@tominmo8865]

Great review! Subbed and stayed til the end. I have no intention of getting this gun, as I have a P365 and LCP Max for my daily carry, and I'm happy with them. The Max has every upgrade available from Mcarbo, and it really makes a difference. Both have Hogue grip sleeves as well. I will be getting the STR-9F in a couple of days.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Very nice! Mcarbo is always a great way to upgrade a pistol like the Max 👍 Enjoy the STR-9F! It’s a good one! And welcome to the channel! 👋

[@theoriginalDAL357]

Informative review, thanks! I am mostly a revolver guy; I pocket carry a Kimber K6s, and occasionally a Sig P365-380 as a back up. After owning, and selling, four Glocks, I’m down to only one 9mm: a Walther PPS M2. On rare occasions it gets carried. I have been debating with myself on getting another double-stack 9 pistol, mostly as a range gun, so I’m going to give the Stoeger a look, especially at that price point. If possible, I’ll compare the compact and full-size pistols at the same time and decide from there. Thanks again for the food for thought.

[@m4rvinmartian]

Nah, you already got a good one. The Walther. Although I'd get it in 45 or 9mm

[@theoriginalDAL357]

@@m4rvinmartian You’re right, the Walther PPS M2 IS a good pistol. I went to Sportsman’s Warehouse after church today and they had both a compact and full-size model. The grip seemed slightly large for my hand on both, but nothing I couldn’t adapt to. After handling both, I have ruled out the compact. So, if I decide to talk myself into buying it, the full size it will be. The price was VERY enticing: $299.99, plus a $50 rebate, which runs until 1-15-2024. Decisions, decisions.

[@margie1982]

Bought mine 3 months ago when it was on sale for $275 which is the non OR. Just received my $50 rebate a few days ago, overall a great buy!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Very nice! 😎👍

[@michaelash3874]

I just picked up the compact from Primary Arms for $199.00 with a $50.00 rebate for an end cost of $150.00. That's Hi-point prices!

[@ronk.6226]

Im glad I bought my Canik MC9 before seeing this video. I love mine, and several who shot mine love it, too. I'll have to go back to that video to see when you reviewed it. The earlier models, pre-production runs had seceral issues. Anyway, I love my MC9, but now I am thinking about the Str-9mc. Thank you for the review. As with all reviews, I try to get a feel for the reviewer's likes and dislikes and maybe prejudices. Thanks again fr the review.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Absolutely, I’m just one opinion in a sea of many. Enjoy! 😎👍

[@henryknox4511]

234 on buds with rebate!

[@maddie4077]

I just looked and that's for the sc and the c models.

[@livefreeprintguns]

I know people like to clown on Taurus, but I love my G3c... for the money it's ridiculous (and it came with 3 steel mags!) and on top of that there is a 3D printable frame called the FOSS Cannon for it. I think I ran about 200 rounds at the range with the G3c guts in the FOSS Cannon and didn't have a single issue.

[@NightwoodGuns]

My brother in law runs a Taurus G3C and I’m honestly impressed by it for the money 😂👍

[@TheDoomWizard]

The trigger is too long and trash

[@JULIOAGUILAR-t5m]

@@TheDoomWizard BUENO ES LO QUE HAY,,,,,,UNA BASURA COMO LA G3C, ME SALVO LA VIDA Y EL DELINCUETE TENIA UNA GLOCK 17....Y EL PERDIO...

[@outoforder6600]

Could you review the hellcat pro bro? You're the only reviewer on here I trust 100% and would love your thoughts on the gun

[@NightwoodGuns]

If I run across one I’ll be sure to review it 😎👍

[@JakeCamo]

Awesome review, the p10c is still regularly $300, which if you are willing to have slightly bigger is the way to go. But this is pretty awesome. God if this thing just had some crossover holster compatibility with the 43x or hellcat it would be amazing. Or if LAS carried a holster.

[@NightwoodGuns]

For a bigger compact, the P10C on sale is nearly impossible to beat for the price 👍 I agree about the holster compatibility with the Stoeger. If we could just get a major brand like LAS, etc on board it would be incredible.

[@S1deshowRob]

@@NightwoodGuns I love the P10C , slap a TLR1 or X300 on it and it shoots like a .380. It just doesn’t move

[@PitbullSoco]

And even if you want to go smaller, you can find the P10S for around 350 regularly. Just picked up the P10S Optics Ready version for 375. You can even find the even smaller P10M for sub $250 regularly

[@Get2TheDeLorean]

Awesome Review. Highly under rated handguns! They have a $50 rebate until mid January

[@NightwoodGuns]

They are impressive pistols! I’m glad the rebate is still going 😎👍

[@keithrange4457]

Great vid, thanks!

[@NightwoodGuns]

😎👍

[@the.bandit77]

Just bought my Stoeger STR 9MC, around the time this was posted. Only took me a month to find the video!! 😂 Very informative and I really love the addition of holster information too. Much needed!! I bought a holster online and oh my gosh it’s awful but I’m gonna check out one of the options you suggested.

[@NightwoodGuns]

😎👍

[@the.bandit77]

@@NightwoodGuns went to the range with my stoeger, could use any suggestions as far as aiming goes. It seems for me between when I aim to when I pull the trigger I’m moving so on my targets I’m hitting higher than where I’m aiming or hitting to the side of where I’m aiming at. I’m not sure if it’s because I’m not aiming right (which I align everything up), or if I’m just shaky with it. Any advice could help!

[@joewest2560]

I just learned of this gun, my edc currently is the gx4 toro w/holosun 407k. So, I looked into it a little more ( their website sucks) but it seems they not only have a standard size, a compact size, a sub compact size, and whew... a micro compact size. My only wish for your otherwise great review would have been to elaborate/explain quickly on the other versions. I'm an old retired Leo and in my old age with weaker hand strength, I'm a big fan of Talon slide grips. I hope they make them for these guns. Thanks for the review, I subscribed 👍

[@jaynitrophoto]

I have one of these, and absolutely love it. The mags do take some time, to break in. As far as holsters, I have a Hellcat holster, from Alien Gear. Since it is virtually a Hellcat... but shoots better... I feel confident with it as a edc, in that holster.

[@NightwoodGuns]

😎👍

[@titomon]

Nice review! Is it juat me or does Brett (when in sunglasses) have a resemblance with Mike Ross from the tv show Suits?

[@NightwoodGuns]

I’ll take it! 😎

[@ecobasetech4558]

I just took advantage of a couple of deals on PSA Full size Dagger slide with optic cut, threaded barrel and suppressor height sights and the "SW1" slide cut fo $200. The full size frame for $50. Even with about $30 for the transfer fee to my local FFL, that's still less than $300!!!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Very nice! 🙌

[@kayok07]

Had an old stoeger couger clone it was great same issues hard to find mags luckily since it was a beretta clone it had some compatability.

[@kayok07]

Shadow prices are high but they are the most pro 2A company and replace the firearm when used in a justified self defense shooting almost like what they were designed for🤔

[@livefreeprintguns]

How would you compare the texture on the grip to the M&P Shield Plus? It looks like it's a little more aggressive, but just a little bit more... not by a lot.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Too close to call. It’s pretty close to the same. Like you said, maybe a hair more aggressive. I do prefer the surface area of the grip texture on the Shield Plus, though.

[@Asidebar]

It has the Hellcat grip texture which is the best ever

[@NightwoodGuns]

Absolutely 😎👍

[@justin5421]

The way you talk about this gun completely reminds me of my Mossberg MC2SC. It’s a Glock clone that’s the size of a G43 with the flush fit mag and the G43X with the extended mag. One of my favorite guns! Except for aftermarket support… Tier 1 doesn’t make holsters for it but there is some good holsters out there for it by Black Arch and Slim Fit Holsters among others. You should check it out if you haven’t already

[@Wsmith247]

I agree, the trigger is the best that I have ever had in a striker fired pistol.Not a good choice for anyone with weak hand strength as if you think the mags are hard to load, try racking the slide with a fully loaded mag.

[@derweibhai]

Kygunco has them for $157 shipped after $75 rebate!!!!

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@derweibhai Wow! Thats a no-brainer! 🙌

[@Iceberg82]

I put a request in at Vedder and Hawg holsters. This gun is 🔥 has so much going for it!

[@Iceberg82]

🔥Muddy River Tactical makes great holsters and already has one for the Stoeger STR9 I put a request to them as well. They will likely have it before anyone else. So definitely request STR9 MC from Muddy River Tactical

[@justing8321]

I have this exact model love it almost bought a fn reflex definitely happier with the str since it’s also optics ready

[@heinrichstoltz1356]

Just love your work. Wishing you the best on your Gundie Nomination. 🏆

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks, I appreciate it 😎👍

[@Renaldo135]

Excellent review.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Glad you enjoyed 😎👍

[@byronh77]

I have a stoeger str 9c, l like stoeger. I think they’re highly underrated and present a lot value for the money. I think the stock trigger is fantastic. Distinctly better than a stock glock trigger. They’re (str 9c) easy to shoot and accurate. Glocks have a learning curve in my opinion to become accurate with them in my opinion. I have 2330 rounds through mine. I noted the same cons as you. Holster support is an issue. I wish more holsters providers would support the brand. Another con l’ve noticed since something was brought to my attention on another gun namely a shadow system. Is internal wear. Only had this gun for less than a year. The metal parts the slide rides on is showing a bit of wear. Which caused me to look at my other guns. My Glocks aren’t showing the same type of wear in these areas. And l have almost double the round count. My shadow systems MR however is, and showing a bit of wear on the polymer, where the guide rod sits. With only 780 rounds through it. Not good for a 1100.00 gun. So at the price point, is the metal stoeger is using a bit softer, to get at that price point? Is this normal? Hasn’t affected functionality in any way yet. But something I’m watching. But my slide squeaks now on my stoeger press checking or while locking the slide back. So my overall concern would be long term durability of these guns. But l would definitely choose and carry this over a Taurus. Stoeger offers a lot of value to beginners and veteran shooters and there’s really nothing you really need to change. Also one other con. The optic cuts are not deep enough to co witness with the stock sights. And the iron sight options, the stock sights are great. But if you want suppressor height sights not sure if Glock sights will work. And they are hard as hell to try to move to adjust the windage. With a sight pusher because of the angle of the iron sights. On a different note, I think you just got a bad mete mc 9. I have two and l EDC them not one out of battery issue. But great review on this pistol.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Thanks for sharing your experience 😎👍

[@techandphotoimagesbritt5814]

have put over 2k rounds thru mine..got the optic ready one..not one misfire...ya its a snappy lil one but it is accurate as hell ..the mags have gotten a little easier to load with the mageula but still cant put all 13 in.

[@B_R_]

The STR9c is 149 after rebate right now on primary's site

[@NightwoodGuns]

Crazy good deal 👍

[@billyhaddock5540]

The stoeger str-9mc looks like a good pistol. I just brought a stoeger str-9c pistol and i like it better. needs more magazines..

[@NightwoodGuns]

👍

[@N8urecure]

This caught my attention somehow and has been on my radar for a couple months. On paper I like everything about it. I think you brought home all the considerations perfectly.

[@NightwoodGuns]

😎👍

[@kentd253]

I'd like to see this against the Taurus GX4.....thats my favorite budget micro 9 so far. Thats my baby.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I have shot it, but I haven’t reviewed it on the channel yet. They are cheap enough that I’ll probably pick one up soon for a proper head-to-head 👍

[@HKGunPlay]

I am with you I have the p365 and I am not a fan of micro compacts. The sight radius and snappiness. I have issues with my hands and holding smaller guns and shooting fifty rounds and my hands will start locking up and going numb. (Carpal tunnel issues genetics I guess). So holding full size guns it doesn’t bother me as much until about 300 rds. But I have been looking for one of these just to hide somewhere for a backup. Thanks for the video. I didn’t know you wrote books. I myself am an artist and thought about many times creating books for kids. Keep it up boss man.

[@m4rvinmartian]

Walther PPQ M2 in 9mm. Look on your local classifieds, and then offer them $300. Keep going til you get one. Got one in my SoB right now. Very comfortable gun.

[@HKGunPlay]

@@m4rvinmartian I have the pdp f and the q5. I looked it up and it looks like a sweet gun. I may have to check it out.

[@bobjones-bt9bh]

investigate a K-frame .357

[@HKGunPlay]

@@bobjones-bt9bh revolvers are sweet but not my thing for carry.

[@NightwoodGuns]

This is a great cheap micro gun to stash, for sure! 😎👍 What kind of art do you do? You should definitely do those kids books, if you don’t you’ll probably always regret it. Share your art with the world!

[@elsanto8879]

Can’t decide between this one and the Taurus GX4 carry. They’re both in the low 3’s

[@drmitofit2673]

I like the ejection pattern!

[@saintmichael753]

Very interesting. A while back when you changed your EDC from the XC to the SAS II Tac 4.25, one of the main reasons I believe you cited was the faster draw to first shot as the Bul is lighter weight and has a shorter barrel/slide to clear the holster quicker. What about your sig macro? Since it's lightweight with a short barrel, is it noticably faster drawing to first shot than the Bul? The g45 with ramjet becomes the length of a g17--even though still somewhat lightweight, do you notice a slower draw than the macro due to the g17 length or no? Lastly, how do you feel grip width/girth and length affect draw? Surely a, say, 365XL grip is harder to draw than a g45 but do you notice any difference between grips of sig macro, g19, g45? G26 able to draw just as quick as long as you have at least a pinky extension?

[@NightwoodGuns]

Good question! What the X-Macro picks up speed-wise on the draw, it loses in shootability. The Bul runs circles around the X-Macro since it has a better recoil impulse, grip texture, and a significantly better trigger. It's easier for me to shoot more accurately much faster than the X-Macro. And yeah, for draw speeds I'd put things in two categories as far as grip size goes: Normal grip and "micro" grip. I'd say normal grip would be G17-G26 (The X-macro squeezes in there, too) and small grip would be all of the micros like the P365 etc. The smaller the grip, the more challenging it can be to get a repeatable grip on the draw. Some micros do a decent job maintaining a shootable grip size (like the Shield Plus.) As far as barrel length goes, it doesn't seem to slow things down drawing IWB until you near the 5" mark. Just my observations and opinions, though.

[@saintmichael753]

Good deal, appreciate it man 👍👊

[@RJHerb]

Hello Nightwood Guns. This is the first of your videos I've seen, thanks for a great review!...New sub here. I like what I see and hear about the STR-9MC, except for the lack of holster availability and after-market support, and we don't yet know about it's reliability. At this point in time, I would rather go with the Taurus GX4-XL (non-t.o.r.o.) In my opinion they have a damn good concealed carry defense trigger, I can shoot them accurately with my x-large hands with x-long fingers, after-market support is good, and so is reliability. I don't concern myself with the drop safety recall anymore, as that issue has been dealt with. And almost all pistol manufacturers have had problems with their new models.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I’ve heard great things about the GX4 for the price 👍 Welcome to the channel!

[@TheRancor53]

Seems like a great one and done micro aside from holster supply but I still lean Glock or Sig even tho likewise not a micro fan. There are more stories of Glock/S&W/Beretta/Sig even H&K QC issues simply because more people use em and will post about it even if it’s small percentage of actual problems.

[@NightwoodGuns]

I totally understand that 😎👍

[@scottlazar9731]

compelling review. Watched our MC9 review last night, I was all set to buy one.... now I'm concerned. I'm new to your reviews, do you show shooting results? 5/7 yard accuracy for a defensive pistol? Are the magazines proprietary or do they cross over with anything else? I'll check out your full size Stoeger review.

[@byronh77]

I have two MC 9’s and l carry them. I’ve not had an out of battery issue at all. I think they’re fantastic and l’ve tried every micro compact. the mete works for me. Range USA has them available to rent, if they’re by you. Rent one. Another gun with exceptional value and trust my life with it.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Accuracy and shooting results are more-so a reflection of the shooter instead of the gun itself. All of these pistols are accurate out to any practical distance. As far as I know the mags are proprietary. I show shooting results in videos that focus on drills and shooting performance. 👍

[@jonathanterrell6823]

Nice review as always! Have you tried the Kimber R7 Mako?

[@NightwoodGuns]

Yeah, the R7 Mako seems to be okay 👍 I tested it at SHOT Show. Didn’t blow me away but it seemed fine.

[@jason200912]

Wow it has 2 more capacity than the hellcat and is only like 1 cm taller Only bad part is the stoeger trigger guard sits so low meaning I get less finger room to hold the gun. The hellcat trigger guard sits high and allows you to get those 3 fingers on the grip and mag.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Lol, fair enough

[@NameQuestUSA]

Great review! Looks like I will be visiting Bear Arms soon.

[@NightwoodGuns]

😎👍

[@m4rvinmartian]

I've been buying up all the Walther PPQ that hit my local classifieds. Been getting them at $300. Not that I'd buy the Stoeger (not even sure if I'd take the time to email for T&E) but have you shot the PPQ? Thoughts comparing the two?

[@NightwoodGuns]

The PPQ is a great gun! As far as full size guns go I’d take one over a Stoeger any day 👍 I’ve never emailed a company for T&E, do they send stuff to pretty much anyone?

[@m4rvinmartian]

​@@NightwoodGuns It depends. Some companies are weird and you have to go back and forth for a week for a $600 gun... some will straight up send you $14,000 worth of guns (That was two guns. From the owner's personal collection) with a 20 min convo. And one in particular, I'm going to call out by name because they aren't what they used to be 5 years ago... Staccato fkd me over promising me a gun for a few months and when the time came, gave me a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you like, I can send you a list of non-shilly companies that will send you guns but not expect certain revu00s.

[@m4rvinmartian]

@@NightwoodGuns With SHOT coming up... T&E is a mess. You won't get anything until Feb now. Everyone has guns under actual lock and key (anyone smart) so they don't disappear at some YTbrs house for the multi-billion dollar industry event. HOWEVER, you don't WAIT until Feb to ask... you start asking in Nov through Jan to get on 'lists' for samples. It helps if you keep your ear to the ground to know what is launching and ask early, because places like DemoRanch, and Honest Outlaw of course are going to get first position on the sample list.

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@m4rvinmartian Interesting. Not surprised about Staccato, tbh 🤣 Yeah, shoot me an email or a DM on Insta when you get some time, I appreciate that 👍 I just want to stay away from shill-city 😅

[@MrsHarleyQT]

I just watched your top 5. How about a top five for… - on a budget - carry to home defense - compact

[@gloriamaletta8667]

I have a Stoeger STR-9mc have 200 flawless rounds through it the stock sights slide finish guide rod trigger grip texture are raally good in my opinion l shoot it very well you can't beat what your getting for money spent l have 3 other micro 9s a SIG P365-Kimber R7 Mako-Canik MC9 while they are all great guns l really like the Stoeger plan on carrying it but need to put more rounds down range before doing so 400-500 more the first 200 rounds were absolutely flawless and like l said l shoot this gun extremely well all these other micro 9s costed more than the STR-9mc and it has no problem so far keeping pace with any of these other guns mentioned and yes l think it will perform as well as a Shadow Systems CR920 for less than the price

[@gloriamaletta8667]

The last line l meant for half the price of a Shadow Systems CR920

[@NightwoodGuns]

Sounds like our impressions are the same 😎👍

[@S1deshowRob]

Turkish pistols stay winning, I know the canik MC9 has its issues but overall they’re really giving us poors a lot of great options. You can even put Langdon parts in Girsan’s beretta clones. Regarding holsters I wonder if something like the phlster floodlight TLR 7 would work?

[@NightwoodGuns]

Yep, for the most part Turkish pistols are squared away for a great price. 👍

[@ChrisElsasser]

Yes it still fires.... 😮

[@NightwoodGuns]

😂👍

[@rod675]

I believe these are picking up steam in the retail market. I've seen some early in my area and they've been snatched up quickly.

[@NightwoodGuns]

That’s great to hear 👍

[@jessesando8582]

I'm sure my LGS probably won't have any anytime soon, but I'll be keeping my eyes peeled. I'm curious, have you ever gotten your hands on the Kimber R7? I was thoroughly impressed with it for the feature set. They have them now for 520 online as a tacpac/gearup package with a holster and 5 mags and am thinking of picking up another one after i traded mine off last year.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Yeah, the Kimber R7 isn’t bad. It just also isn’t anything special in my opinion. I also haven’t seen any at a high round count.

[@kennethbrantley9582]

A few weeks ago I saw this pistol And it was $429. It comes with 3 Magazines. I loved write when I picked it up. I have a sig 365 And I love this gun. I've had it for many many years. But I am left handed. How hard would it be for me to get a holster for this?

[@NightwoodGuns]

I linked two holster options in the description 👍

[@rammannawar1626]

I have the str9c desert tan and black good looking and great shooting gun.

[@mccall9770]

awesome video as usual. thought i remembered you having a video or mentioning in one about a holster maker you recommended as an alternative to the tier1 axis elite being slightly cheaper and quicker to get in your hands but couldn't find it. you remember it? or am i making this up lol

[@NightwoodGuns]

Yes, good memory! It was Summit Holsters. I was fighting with YT over the video. They were convinced there was something potentially “strike-worthy” in the vid so I opted to take it down after they refused to hear me out. I still have no idea what it was to this day. I get an assigned YT rep at 100k subs, so I’m looking forward to that.

[@mccall9770]

@@NightwoodGuns thanks a ton, weird story definitely. was thinking i was going crazy looking through your vids. looking forward to future content and (good) attention on the channel you deserve!

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@mccall9770 I appreciate the support 😎👍 YT makes things very difficult on my end.

[@georgewallace4457]

PSA has Ruger Max-9s for $249 right now... Hard to beat bout the same specs as the STR-9MC and comes optics ready at that price. And, of course.... 'Murica! My only grip with Stoeger is their mags are more often outta stock than in stock.... and the mags are slightly pricey when you can find them.

[@jimmymcclure4549]

I will stick with my Shield plus for a micro carry. It looks a lot thinner than this. I also have a Glock 48. It does not look like a bad gun but I see no need for another concealment 9MM

[@NightwoodGuns]

Fair enough 👍

[@DB2A7]

Looks good for the dollsrs...... I watched twice for ya!

[@NightwoodGuns]

Much appreciated 😎👍

[@jason200912]

Could you see if the stoeger slide fits onto a glock 43x or 43 frame? And if a glock slide can fit onto the stoeger frame? The stoeger compact can fit onto glock 19s, and I think the sc can fir the glock 26, and full size can fit the glock 17

[@rockman09022]

Thanks for the great review, now I am $270 (after rebate) short in my bank! Can't wait to compare it head to head with my G43

[@NightwoodGuns]

Very nice! Welcome to the club! 🙌

[@sherizaahd]

Seems like Ian Forgotten Weapons goes to Bear Arms. I just saw a video he did there recently.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Yep 😎👍 It’s the best shop in the area!

[@Taegashi]

So if the STR 9 was the shower gun, is the STR-9MC the skinny dipping gun?

[@NightwoodGuns]

A nice “zap carry” option for a night at the lake 😎👍

[@pachecobrandon29]

Wow i watched your video on way home from the store. Was impressed. I put 30 rds through brand new gun...something broke in the slide...the spring is hanging in front of barrel. I cant even remove slide. I owned it 1 hr 30 rounds. And the ammo was correct

[@NightwoodGuns]

Oh wow, reach out to Stoeger and keep us updated on how it goes. Is it the recoil spring that’s hanging out? That sounds weird…

[@pachecobrandon29]

@@NightwoodGuns yes i wish i could send you the picture.

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@pachecobrandon29 I’d be curious to see it. You can send it to me on Instagram or email me nightwoodguns at gmail dot com.

[@pachecobrandon29]

Ok i will. Just got your message back

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@pachecobrandon29 Wow. That guide rod should not be able to fit through the slide like that. Did the necked down part of the hole in the slide shear off or something? 100% reach out to Stoeger about that.

[@josephhamilton7852]

Stoeger is owned by Beretta so that's why they have the quality. I've had two different stoeger guns and never had any issues with them.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Agreed 😎👍

[@ShooterReady]

Hello there. If you compare str mc9 vs canik mc9, which one is better. What do you think?

[@NightwoodGuns]

I’d take the STR any day because it hasn’t broken 😂

[@ShooterReady]

@@NightwoodGuns Thank you sir. Very clear for me now. I will go for str. Wish you the best 🙋🏼‍♂️

[@TheBrocksbikes]

You might have to use thread locker and the included Allen key for the rear sight. I read a review where it came loose in the dovetail after 50 rounds. Also was the inside of the slide and frame coated in copper anti-seize when it was new, like a Glock is?

[@whatwouldlewdo]

Looks like a nice one. You've peaked my interest. 😉 Just a thought on the Glock triggers -- A while back I looked into Glock to see if they had ever had any kind of mishaps like the supposed P320 issues, and I couldn't find anything. I did, however, find a LOT of reports of pedestrians AND police officers accidentally shooting one another due to the trigger, which led to a lot of lawsuits. My theory is that perhaps Glock got so 'scurred' of being sued further that they decided to make the crappiest trigger possible to ensure that they cover their bootums.

[@NightwoodGuns]

😂 That’s an interesting theory! The transition from double action guns to striker guns definitely caused a lot of negligent “booger hook on the bang switch” incidents. But the G43x/G48 triggers are particularly awful.

[@whatwouldlewdo]

@@NightwoodGuns Gotta admit, I haven't compared my 19 with my 43X, so I'll have to do that in the future and see just how much worse the 43x is.

[@NightwoodGuns]

@@whatwouldlewdo Let me know what you think after you compare 👍