LET IT RELEASE YOU | Swtor Madness PVE Guide

[@Kal-213]

Spin.. ever downward. Fall.. Disappear.

[@Geckorawasg]

Sanity is madness. Let prison release you.

[@Kal-213]

@@Geckorawasg Lol

[@Weserator1379]

I already know madness but it still a pleasure to watch your guides every time

[@CalebA-sv2kw]

Very nice guide well made Coosh you are an asset to the SWTOR community.

[@TakesCooosh]

[@HypSpector]

Another awesome job Cooosh! Been doin the Plague Master for a bit now and picked up some great nuggets here. When in doubt, DEATHFIELD!! 'So good. One extra tidbit for Madness players: double-clicking Deathfield may not work sometimes and this is due to the target being just outside your range (as the center of the Deathfield reticle) so you may need to manually place it instead (ex: You have to be just inside the outer ring in EV vs Soa to double-click apply but you can manually place it a bit farther back). Keep up the great work Cooosh!

[@Skrubb_Lord]

I've noticed this bug and how it won't let Death Field be cast via dbl-tap for max range while Death Brand will.

[@palermo1047]

Thanks for a great video! Your "SHOOOCK!!!!" at 45:30 was epic!

[@snoggel76]

a masterpiece of a guide 😊 thank you!

[@TakesCooosh]

THANK YOU!!

[@RobertMcCue-l8v]

Wow you have put a ton of work into this guide. Thank you I will share this guide with some discord friends that play madness. 😅

[@TakesCooosh]

THANK YOU!!!

[@Necronoxicon261]

I don’t play madness but I appreciate you making content like this for us. You have the best guides for swtor combat styles on KZbin imo. Thank you Cooosh!

[@TakesCooosh]

[@alexhodges8729]

Clear, compact, and easy to follow. Thanks for this amazing guide ❤❤

[@KeepItC1assic]

Thank you for the video dude. My buddy got me into the game after him playing for years so im playing catch up lmao

[@faytisurdstny]

Such Minds! Such fertile grounds for madness!

[@quarkraven]

smokin kush while watching coosh is my moment of zen

[@evilasekxxx9585]

Another great guide thanks bro ❤

[@NewTypeDilemma01]

I'm not sure how much of this is still true now, but the dark side (heh) of having a Plaguemaster rotation is that there will always be _something_ on cooldown when you need it, forcing you to pick something else from your priority list to offset the higher burst potential and mobility and get finicky with how you craft your rotation. What is lost in burst and mobility in the non-Plaguemaster rotation is compensated for in consistency and ease of use.

[@istariyang]

hope i can find the guide earlier, after watching this guide about 3 times, my dps go to 30000+ from about 21000, thanks a lot!

[@TakesCooosh]

[@manitoublack]

awesome guide

[@aSenatorial]

One tip others may appreciate, although I personally hate it: With perfect clicking, you can buff 2 Shocks with one Polarity Shift. You have to activate PS then Shock almost immediately, then perfectly click every ability until the next shock. You will notice the next Shock can be used right before PS runs out.

[@ianator879]

SADNESS!!

[@nexiria]

BADNESS!

[@Bedellxx]

Perfection.

[@TakesCooosh]

[@RedCJM]

The Seen you make at the start was Amazing! 😅

[@TakesCooosh]

THANK YOU!!!

[@recordinggerman7412]

Lets gooo chooooosh!!!!

[@TakesCooosh]

[@schlauchmeister234]

Would have been nice to include a dummy parse, otherwise decent guide. Pretty much the same Plague Master build/rotation Draemn & Vulkk put out quite a while ago. Only difference is, after Shock, they use Demolish first and then reapply the other dots. I don't know why they do it in that order, but like you, I started doing the dots before Demolish - just seems to make more sense to get the dots going again first.

[@ExcelarionEntertainment]

Using Demolish right before shock is a dps loss, because Affliction and Creeping Terror alone do not consume all 15 Deathmarks in one rotation. You want those used up before Death Field is used again, hence why the rotation Coosh showed (and which everyone that doesn't get their information from Vulkk uses) Demolish, than 2 fillers and then Deathfield.

[@schlauchmeister234]

@@ExcelarionEntertainment "Using Demolish right before shock is a dps loss" - ?? I didn't suggest or say anything about using Demolish right before Shock.

[@ExcelarionEntertainment]

@@schlauchmeister234 oh sorry, I misread that

[@Sunkiss1414]

Hey cooosh I main sorc madness with plague master on star forge server. It's actually not force negative with plague master. Ive parsed 30k on the ops dummy 10mil without max gearing. The rotation I have is also extremely mobile meaning you do not cast force lightning 3-4 times in a row

[@schlauchmeister234]

Yeah, I've never noticed any "force negative" thing when playing Madness/Balance. Also, with a Plague Master build, you shouldn't ever be using Force Lightning 3-4 times in a row - that's only in the non-PM build.

[@Sunkiss1414]

yeah exactly! The build I have is suitable for pvp too. The only peeps beating me in parse in ops right now are snipers with the build for sorc madness I have lol again I have an extremely mobile build where you can move around the whole time minus two force lightnings but not back to back force lightnings

[@NexoBeats]

can you also create a Ligtning Guide?

[@-Reminiscence]

Perfection, thanks for the time and work you put into this

[@oreosrl]

FINALLY

[@psycohead]

Awesome guide. Question, what armor parts u are using, like the wardrobe

[@rapidloving]

It's not affecting the topic of the video.

[@2023roadstervet]

ABOUT TIME.. WHILE I"M DRUNK on FLEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@shankaara]

Ok. It's time to learn madness, i guess.

[@leonardov7]

What's the name of that Outfiter boots please thanks

[@TakesCooosh]

Boots are the "Sinister Warrior's Boots"!

[@cmdrwraithe1857]

Very cool PvE guide. Do you have a PvP version utilizing Death Brand?

[@madalinnicolae5594]

Can this rotation be used for PVP also? let us know when you do a build for PVP also

[@lukefantini9770]

Why do we cast shock with only affliction and creeping terror, and not with demolish as well? Is it overall just less dps?

[@schlauchmeister234]

Yes, it's a dps loss to use Shock to detonate Demolish. This is because of a bug in mechanics. You have a passive at level 60 that increases Demolish's run time by 3 seconds. Shock mistakenly ignores this extra 3 seconds and detonates Demolish using the shorter run time's damage, so you lose the damage you'd get from that extra 3-seconds of dot ticks, meaning you get more damage by just letting the Demolish dot run its full course instead of detonating it.

[@Robsta69TV]

Great video loving your content. I have been away from the game for a while now and looking to get back into it was wonsering are lightning sorcs no good now ??

[@schlauchmeister234]

Personally, on dummy tests, I find Lightning to be several thousand dps lower. For Operations, Parsely shows Madness at about middle of the pack and Lightning consistently near the bottom.

[@Nimoot]

Weird .... why is your Plague Master rotation different than it is on Vulkk's Website?

[@schlauchmeister234]

First, make sure you're looking at the "Just Use This For Group Content Right Now" section on Vulkk, not the "Plague Master" section. There isn't any real meaningful difference in their rotations. Vulkk has Demolish right after Shock, then the other DoT's; where Cooosh has the Dot's first after Shock and then Demolish. It probably doesn't make a huge difference, but I would think it's slightly better to get the DoT's going first before Demolish.

[@Nimoot]

@@schlauchmeister234 But doesn't Plague Master do RIDICULOUSLY higher damage?

[@schlauchmeister234]

@@Nimoot The "Just Use This" section does use Plague Master.

[@rapidloving]

@@Nimoot not ridi more, but some more, but you'll always notice it's a dps loss on anything with more than 1 target, or target swapping.

[@aerioaer]

What do you think about creating guides for NiM Operations? I`m new player to the game and just reached lvl 80 and i dont really know the basic tactics for bosses.

[@TakesCooosh]

This is something I've been wanting to do for a very long time! I have a friend who started a full video guide project for all the raids! It wont be hosted here but as SOON as they start to be posted I will make sure to share the website!

[@Ctrl_Alt_Delete_Yourself]

Any guilds/clans recruiting? Sry im brand new to the game so idk what they’re called. I made a sith inquisitor sorcerer .

[@colink638]

im currently Artifice ... should i respec into BIO CHEM for re usable adrenals ?

[@schlauchmeister234]

If it's the toon you play most of the time, it's definitely worth it being able to use the reusable med stuff.

[@black07rr]

im watching your rotation and watching your bar and it looks like when in the applying dots phase after demolish the creeping terror is getting clipped...is this suppose to be the case?

[@TakesCooosh]

Yeah I personally like doing it cause then I don’t have to delay death field or force leech! I do know some folks clip a force lightning so they can totally apply a fresh creeping terror.

[@black07rr]

@@TakesCooosh oh ok, then it’s not a huge deal, it was going against my never clip a dot and causing ocd issues

[@TakesCooosh]

@@black07rr LMAO I FEEL THAT!!

[@schlauchmeister234]

You have to clip them in order to maximize dps. Yes, it's typically "wrong" to clip dots in other combat styles, but the Madness/Balance combat style is kind of broken and poorly designed.

[@AdmiralHellShot]

is this the best build for sith sorc for best dps cause Im playing as one and im lvl 15

[@schlauchmeister234]

Madness with Plague Master is currently the best dps PvE Sorc spec right now.

[@AdmiralHellShot]

@@schlauchmeister234 thank you do you know just a regular storyline pve rotation or should i just follow his AOE one he talks about in the end of the video?

[@schlauchmeister234]

@@AdmiralHellShot You can use what he does with the AoE tactical, but for me, most PvE story is easy enough that I don't feel a need to change tacticals. If hitting multiple mobs, I just hit one with Affliction & Creeping Terror, use Death Field to DoT spread, and then a Force Storm will usually finish them off.

[@The_Red_Hand]

Is shock to finish dots not a thing?

[@TakesCooosh]

If you have the plague master utility it is!

[@The_Red_Hand]

That makes sense

[@theamazingspiderman481]

I thought you didn’t need accuracy since you don’t do any white damage as madness??

[@schlauchmeister234]

On the Ops dummy, I started seeing a lot of "Resisted"'s once I dropped my Accuracy stat. So it definitely seems to be needed.

[@rapidloving]

your talking pvp, this guide is pve!

[@aSenatorial]

This only applies to pvp. All ops require 110% for all classes

[@colink638]

does anyone know what GCD 1. 3 is how much Alacrity ??

[@schlauchmeister234]

For a Madness Sorc, with the guild zeal perk it's about 1895. Without the guild perk, it's about 3207.

[@rapidloving]

@@schlauchmeister234 you don't need 1.3, 1.4 is more than enough! Crit is what you want!

[@schlauchmeister234]

@@rapidloving I never said it was needed. The guy asked what it was and I told him.

[@rapidloving]

@@schlauchmeister234 it was more of an addition to your info.

[@paxxxnan1231]

Please do a Sorcerer build :) Edit: Lightning build

[@schlauchmeister234]

Madness is a Sorcerer build.

[@paxxxnan1231]

@@schlauchmeister234 it is indeed I meant lightning thanks for correction 😆

[@WRXnumberSeven]

Lightning good?

[@schlauchmeister234]

For solo stuff it's fine. For Op's, Parsely shows Lightning consistently near the bottom of all dps classes/specs with Madness being middle of the pack.

[@chookiee4493]

Dont know how to thank you :)

[@littletweeter1327]

Sanity is a prison…

[@haku7335]

Is madness still gud?

[@schlauchmeister234]

As for doing dps on a Sorc, it's far better than Lightning. Compared to all dps classes, Parsely shows it in the middle of the pack. I also think despite being average damage (compared to all dps), it makes up a lot having all the utilities that it has: self-healing, light off-healing capability, short cooldown cleanse, and a shield that makes you basically immortal for a few seconds.

[@haku7335]

@@schlauchmeister234 you seem to be someone who knows what they're talking about. Can u tell me the best damage and tank classes ? All force users tho, im not into tech

[@schlauchmeister234]

@@haku7335 For DPS - Hatred Assassin for Inquisitor, and either Annihilation Marauder or Vengeance Juggernaut for Warrior. Of those, Hatred Assassin is probably easiest to play and overall is highest dps. For tanking, both the Immortal Juggernaut and Darkness Assassin are good tanks, different strengths and weaknesses. I know less about tanks than I do DPS'ers, but my understanding is that Jugg is probably slightly better and easier to play, but you should check out some guides first and look into them.

[@rapidloving]

@@haku7335 best force damage spec is serenity/hatred right now, best tank is really much a choice, both sin and jugg have different strengths.

[@haku7335]

@@rapidloving are marradeurs any good rn?

[@fatimak6521]

No parsing 😢 But good guide beaides that

[@ttaibe]

I will set up this guide for beginners.. proceeds with all kinds of jargon

[@davidroot1996]

Creeping Death, just like the Metallica song >:)

[@GeraltGK]

Hi, well done guide tyvm BUT no-one is asking for the most important thing, "What outfit is that" wha is wrong with you guys, Jeez, so.. What outfit is that? bro, tyvm

[@Weserator1379]

Learn a heal spec when you get 2k subs maybe?😉

[@lichterfps]

FINALLY