Let's Be Mad About eShop Closures One More Time

[@ArloStuff]

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[@jackjensensplaythroughsrev49]

Sup

[@-aexc-]

my comment about Raycons seems to be deleted. just look for any review of them by someone who hasn't been paid by them

[@Sonic101_]

Who cares about the Eshop closing. Just pirate

[@leeartlee915]

The hShop is your friend Arlo. That 3DS store is AMAZING.

[@WolfmanArt]

Does Nintendo plan to bring GameCube games to the Switch? There's a ton a games from that console era I never got to try!

[@wolfybuilder]

You know Nintendo's gone too far when Arlo unironically talks about """piracy""", without the whole "I'd NEVER tell you to do that!" bit

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

It was an inbred tier take. You've been moralizing on it so long you've forgotten to PRESERVE another crucial part of English language. Piracy is NOT a problem with "accessing" content you've already started treating like socialized public proprety, like you own THE RIGHT to buy it. If somebody owns land, and shuts down a theme park on that land, they are NOT obligated morally or otherwise to "preserve" your inane fantsies of Woodstock being anything but nostalgic garbage. You taking the liberty to TRESPASS there, is against the core concept of PROPERTY in the form of that land. And PIRACY is spitting on the OWNER'S right to NOT sell you something that isn't YOURS; it's THEIRS. Your NOSTALGIA is not ownership, it's socialism to pretend otherwise, and THAT IS WHY it was termed as "piracy", in lack of a better word. To AT LEAST put a name on the concept. But you don't even have the concept. You're not legally literate in a common man's standard, and you're not fit to vote on these issues by a common man's standard. But, whose voting? These outcries exist exclusively to enact mob justice and ignore the rational reasoning. People just emotionally refused to understand WHY there is such a thing as NOT forcing people to sell away their property, IN THE FIRST PLACE. Because you're feeling ENTITLED to buying it, by force if necessary, you'd just ignore the facts that go against such entitlement. And that IS socilaism, that is bog standrd socialism, the kind fo a degree like "as long as you can SEE a house existing you get by law to busk in it". The state that allows piracy is a state that ALREADY socialized that property. The state that snidely illegalizes it and refuses to enforce that legislation anyway, is a CORRUPT socialist state, to boot.

[@Draezeth]

It's not piracy if there's no way to buy it!

[@TurboPikachu]

@@Draezeth I mean, copyright-wise, it still _is_ piracy, which is really scummy on Nintendo’s part as the publisher, because they still have the legal right to sue ppl who pirate games even if said games are no longer legally obtainable, all while the actual developers who want more people to play the games they spent years of their life working on are having to watch all that time and effort of theirs essentially be put away into Nintendo’s vault

[@happyspaceinvader508]

@@TurboPikachu That might be the law in your country, but it’s certainly not a worldwide law. Thus far, I think they’ve only successfully sued people in the USA, and in those cases it was the people supplying pirated rooms, not the people downloading them. EDIT: In fact, I’m not sure Nintendo have ever even sued anyone… just threatened them with a lawsuit if they didn’t shut their website down.

[@sonicmeerkat]

@@TurboPikachu copyright is for distribution not owning the product hence, copy right.

[@peterporker7822]

I just wanna say, props to Capcom for lowering the price of their games so much on the Eshop closure. I bought so many of their games for such a cheap price

[@willwunsche6940]

Same they got some my money and me to very soon try some of their franchises I probably wouldn't have otherwise. If I like them I will probably play more of their games in the future

[@Antasma1]

Why were they the only ones to do this?! I had to buy Xenoblade Chronicles X for full price

[@SuperThobal]

Yeah... except they skipped us in Europe. Actually made me more frustrated at them because a friend of mine has been waiting for a sale for YEARS while the sales in the US kept on going, giving me a slimmer of hope each time. Would have loved to throw my money in their face for pretty much every discounted game but I'm not paying top dollar when I know they are practically giving the games away elsewhere. Emulation it is.

[@s.bregnest2857]

$3 for every Monster Hunter game was a steal. I also got SF4, which I’m surprised was apparently a 3DS launch title.

[@skeletonliar101]

@@SuperThobal Similar situation for me and a few friends, but with Sega/Atlus games. They had deep discounts in Europe for the past week or so, but not in the US. It was really frustrating to see them on sale, but not in our region.

[@Oslith]

“You can’t steal an item from a store that doesn’t sell that item.” Is a brilliant way to put it. I’m using that from now on.

[@HotelMari0Maker]

Arlo is truly the Socrates of our time.

[@Trashley652]

At first i was like fuck yeah good point! But then I was like well... I mean... you can steal a cash register...

[@BB-pn2qv]

It is well said.

[@BigGoronSword]

*Goes to a store* Guy: Do you sell cars? Employee: No Guy: "You can't steal an item from a store that doesn't sell that item" Arlo: That's not what I meant, and you know it!

[@xsshow1115]

So, when a store switches its clothing from summer to winter season product... is it then okay to walk into the stockroom and steal the summer outfit you want? Ha ha ha

[@blabbitybla2780]

Huge respect for zoning right into the pirating aspect of this topic, too many people dance around this out of fear Nintendo will put them on the naughty list

[@ImTheMan0fSteel]

As they SHOULD. And I reported the video for that reason. Someone telling you they don't want to sell you something, is not a license to STEAL. It still makes you an immoral, dead beat loser who thinks they are entitled to video games. Get a job.

[@tomatoprincess2709]

Lol i think he's already on the nintendo naughty list considering he no longer says "product provides by nintendo" in his reviews xD so that gives hik the freedom to say what he wants

[@DanGamingFan2406]

Rest in piece 3DS/WiiU eshop bag guy. You and your great, games may be gone, but you will never be forgotten.

[@watershipup7101]

Yeah, never forget the dat Nintendo screwed up. Again.

[@Tommy-the-coffee-addict]

its not gone, homebrew says hi

[@WaterMeLoan64]

His name is Colin the eShop Bag.

[@ribottostudio]

I'm really gonna miss that sound when you download a game and all those lil blocks go in the bag....It was oddly comforting.

[@Racecarlock]

Yes, gone but not forgotten. Whoever we were talking about.

[@JsYTA]

2 decades of dual screen gaming now a product of its era.

[@thespeedyyoshi]

That part of “pirating” from a store that doesn’t exist is a REALLY good point XD. You really can’t “pirate” a game from a service where you no longer can get the game

[@lasercraft32]

Nintendo isn't gonna like it (they never do) but if they care so much maybe they should actually sell their own games. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@DS9TREK]

Morally you're correct but legally not so much

[@thelastdragon5551]

@@lasercraft32 What do you even mean by that?

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

@@DS9TREK Then that is a failure of a law and the law should be reworked legally speaking.

[@lasercraft32]

@@thelastdragon5551 Nintendo doesn't like when people pirate their games, even if there's no other way to play it.

[@DaGhostToastRoast]

It’s even worse that they have embraced subscription services and that we have to pay endlessly into a service now that could go away at any time just to play the classic games.

[@ThomastheDankEngine8900]

Nintendo: “you will own nothing, and you will be happy.” Furukawa simps: “yes master!” Anyone defending Furukawa’s garbage business decisions is not a Nintendo fan, they hate the company as much as Furukawa does and is a simp for him.

[@mr.awesome6011]

It would sting less if all of the games that were on 3DS and WiiU virtual consoles were on NSO but they're not. Not even close.

[@radaf4429]

You don't have to pay, literally no one is forcing you

[@InkyMuste]

I absolutely loathe these subscription services, how I wish they would just give us the option to buy older games individually again, it just feels like they're taking away all control from us.

[@DaGhostToastRoast]

@@radaf4429 My want to play n64 games on switch is forcing me. Well I could try to hack my switch but I’m not good at that and might break it.

[@sageoffire3964]

I LITERALLY just typed in "eShop closure", and then got the notification for this video. The definition of literally PERFECT timing.

[@withoutthejuice7193]

literally

[@matthewLkidder]

An Eshop closes, gives moral liberty to pirate

[@LM-nb7rj]

YARRR, HOIST THE BLACK FLAG AND PREPARE TO SET SAIL! 🏴‍☠

[@megaman37456]

My friends you will always remember this as they day you almost caugh- *falls off cliff into the water*

[@joaop5033]

I was a pirate way before it was cool

[@BraxtonKovary]

Seeing Arlo mad about this brings a smile to my face. WHY THEY GOTTA MASSACRE MY BOI THE ESHOP LIKE THAT

[@legocreator768]

now we have no reason not to use hShop :3

[@diccchocolate416]

​@@legocreator768i love one piece

[@Gokujyo]

Holy cow, Arlo talking about "piracy" and mentioning the "3DS is easy to hack" meme. This is great, thank you. You're absolutely right! Well done.

[@MrViperHiggins]

Couldnt agree more man it sucks to see game preservation taking such a dive

[@Neucher]

hshop to the rescue

[@animalxing8697]

Completionist and company downloaded the entire library of both

[@Tacom4ster]

This is why we need to end capitalism

[@twistedkarma9574]

​@@Tacom4ster and how exactly would that help in the future? Please explain.

[@thelastdragon5551]

@@Tacom4ster Because they didn’t want to support old hardware? 😂

[@creativealias85]

hey yo arlo i hope u see this comment cause like i really feel like shouting out ur mega skills with puppeteering. like i know its pretty much an unspoken rule to not bring up the fact that youre a dude behind the puppet, but honestly part of what makes that so easy is the fact that your skills are so ridiculously good. you put so much effort into making the puppet express in realistic and believable ways, and it seriously brings to mind the stories of how muppet set workers would mic kermit puppets instead of voice actors because they would forget that it wasn't just kermit delivering the lines. ive never been into puppeteering but ive got major respect for the clear reverence youve got for your art form. keep on keepin on my man, youre a master of your craft!

[@Just_a_turtle_chad]

And this is why we have independent uploaders, who maintain the survival of these games through unofficial mean, to ensure that the games remain accessible. Kudos to them!

[@ianeons9278]

You are the new Justin Y

[@comp.lex4]

Pirates obtain the media Archivists maintain the media Librarians distribute the media A blurry ecosystem of digital historians, all operating just beyond the slimy reaches of the Nintendo legal department (or any other copyright lawyers, really.) Kill the stigma, because without these people, lost media would be an epidemic

[@maestrogeicho]

"you can't steal an item from a store that doesn't sell that item" is the best analogy I've heard for ethical piracy

[@kingstarscream3807]

Sure you can

[@OneMaskedNinja]

"You can't steal an item from a store that doesn't sell that item." Thank you Mr. Arlo for a great new quote that perfectly encapsulates my stance on emulation.

[@t.fernbach602]

The problem is that Nintendo doesn't offer any alternative for 95% of games on those eShops. Give us an option to download those games on the Switch's eShop and we're golden.

[@firenze6478]

Or its only for rent on the horrible NSO

[@Antasma1]

Even if you like their Netflix styled classic library, what about games that came even later they’re not covering?

[@MineWiz117]

I modded my 3ds a few days ago and it's one of the best decisions I've made. I have access to every digital only game, I can play a lot of JRPGs that are like $100+ on the aftermarket, and I can even play every GBA and DS games right from the home menu. You can even do some amazing stuff like get custom themes for the home screen or play fan translations and rom hacks. Considering this, it was crazy for me to see all of the people rushing out to get all of these digital games. They're literally giving Nintendo money to screw them over. Modding is the way to go.

[@justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313]

Fans were so distraught about the 3DS eShop shutdown that one person gave the idea to include the 3DS eShop Bag in their fangames. So much so that the next update for CTGP-7 will have the little fella as an alternate character to race as. We've also got the music, SFXs and some of the graphics used in the 3DS eShop (including the eShop Bag him/herself, kinda going for a NiGHTS situation here) archived on both The VG Resource and here on KZbin. The eShop's legacy *will* live on. Regardless if Nintendo actually cares or not.

[@scoobydoo23320]

The shift in opinion on privacy is not just because of Nintendo. Lots of streaming shows never get physical release now. And many are platform exclusives. So if that company decides to remove the show they only way to watch it is illegally. This has happened to Infinity Train season 3 and 4. They were HBO max exclusives that never got dvd release and got pulled from the platform.

[@greengreens6347]

They're on Amazon I believe

[@linklegend7536]

This whole eshop situation single handedly pushed me into modding my 3ds and wiiu. Never did ANYTHING with modding and had no expierence at all but it really is "surprisingly easy" the memes are not lying LOL

[@KanesTheName]

Exactly the same for me! Recently modded it so I didn't have to miss out on the eShop Ace Attorney games. Was quite intimidating at first but it's pretty much just a case of putting some folders and files on the SD card LOL

[@idontwantahandlethough]

*Wii U USB Helper* isn't the most optimal way to do things, but it's _alarmingly_ easy. If you are wondering if you can do it, you can! Even your grandma probably could tbh.

[@Rhubarb120]

Definitely. It didn't even take me an hour to mod my 3ds. It is super easy.

[@Ross516]

I've done nothing but quote the surprisingly easy memes since I hacked my 3ds because they *really* aren't wrong!

[@reddawn1873]

same

[@TheOstrichOrginization]

I like how you talked about tracking down old games and having to track them down. When we found out that 3DS eshop was closing, I wanted to get a copy of Luigi’s Mansion 1. But I didn’t wanna pay 60 dollars for it off of ebay. So I was sad and cried myself to sleep. But then a few weeks ago, I went to GameStop because I needed a new Xbox controller. Then I saw they had Luigi’s mansion 1 for 15 bucks. I was so happy

[@bracedgod4505]

Or an Xbox controller with an emulator hehehe

[@danyx855]

My brain subconsciously conviced itself the puppet is the real Arlo whenever I don't actively think about it lol

[@DS9TREK]

What puppet?🤔

[@ZoruaMaster]

What you mean? He's a friendly blue monster.

[@halcyonacoustic7366]

I've met arlo at a con. I met arlo the man. I do not remember what he looks like lol.

[@littlefiddlesticks]

Theres a puppet?

[@beaa4942]

out of topic here but it's amazing how you are able to make that puppet feel totally alive, the moment you cover up the wii u was so natural (min 12:13) jajajaja

[@therunawaykid6523]

Yeah he is a very talented puppet operator it’s got to be said

[@bloodeagle6458]

In an era when you can save everything They erase everything😢😢

[@happymask8042]

"You can't steal an item from a store that doesn't sell that item." - Arlo

[@Eques_Umbra]

13:22 Not to mention, can you actually call it stealing, if the resource in question is fundamentally infinite? These games aren't really physical pieces that require materials to make in order to keep selling (game cartridges being an exception), they're bits of data that can be copied time after time.

[@Shnarfbird]

It was about opportunity cost or something

[@metaldiceman]

Arlo's rage is so contagious. I love it.

[@gamer3ed484]

I’m too lazy to look up the exact quote, but I’m always reminded of that old Gabe Newell saying. Piracy is an issue of proper services not being provided. If old games were being sold for a fair price in an easily accessible way, the overwhelming majority of people would go for that option over piracy and emulation.

[@generalcjg]

5:30 It's ironic, Nintendo tried to shutdown Another Metroid 2 Remake because they were making their own Metroid 2 remake and didn't want the free Metroid 2 remake to overshadow their official remake, so they blocked AM2R's creator from uploading and updating his fanmade remake; now fastforward to today, and Nintendo's own Metroid 2 remake (Metroid: Samus Returns) is no longer being updated and sold on any official capacity, and is stuck on the Nintendo 3DS. So much for Nintendo trying to take down AM2R in favor of them selling Metroid: Samus Returns.

[@AshyMuted]

At least we got a wave of cool art of the 3DS eShop bag guy.

[@Oso-Gaming]

So ends the reign of Arlo. After suggesting he would download ROMs he didn't already purchase, the blue monster was taken out by Nintendo DMCA Snipers... it was great while it lasted.

[@darrenmacqueen9884]

Two things I hope Nintendo does going forward: 1. They need to keep the same storefront on all their consoles from now on like Sony and Microsoft do. Sony didn't need to close their old stores because it's all one store. You can still buy stuff on the PS3 store to this day. 2. The next console should be a hybrid model like the current Switch, but allow for the the handheld model to communicate with the dock wirelessly, enabling for dual screen options with the TV. This will allow DS, 3DS, and Wii U games that use the dual screen to still be played. And they can make new dual screen games if they want. And then I hope they just stick with that model going forward. No new weird gimmicks. Edit: A third thing I hope for is backwards compatibility with the Switch like what Sony is doing now and Microsoft has been doing all along. Keeping the same storefront would make it easier, so hopefully Nintendo can finally learn from their competition.

[@littlefiddlesticks]

If they follow your hopes for the new system, i would be such a happy nerd!

[@Valcuda]

That's what I thought Nintendo was doing, when they made the Swotch eShop!

[@Wiki1184]

That’s what I’d want to. I feel pretty secure knowing the 360’s store is probably going to last as long as Microsoft is still making consoles.

[@KaelTheAdventurer]

"You *can't* steal an item from a store that *doesn't* sell that item; it's not possible." ~Arlo, 13:21 Easily my favorite quote of the video, will definitely be using that going forward.

[@Sting_ray]

Here’s the problem tho, these eShops ARENT going away, not really. As of right now, you can still download games that you have already purchased. All the games are still there, the servers are still up. All that REALLY happened is Nintendo removed the privilege for us to GIVE THEM MONEY. That’s it. Sure, the servers will go down one day, and then no one will be able to download games anymore, but until then the games just float there in cyberspace taunting us.

[@greengreens6347]

Isn't the Wii still up?

[@Sting_ray]

@@greengreens6347 it appears you can re-download still on the Wii Shop Channel. So those servers are still up too. Same situation.

[@rustyshackleford234]

RIP 3DS Nintendo E-shop 2011-2023 You where my childhood 😔

[@Mastergamer44]

People seem to forget that these are the last Virtual Console systems and that when the Switch dies out all your subscription based games will be lost and will never be able to be bought legally again since you'll always be in some sort of subscription base system just to play old games, Nintendo has made sure that this is how they want to preserve their old legacy games, not by buying them for yourself but instead through a means of a money based system with preservation being handled by them and choosing what gets to be put into said system.

[@ulawan5]

With a subscription we don't OWN anything, and the right to use it becomes a privilege they can take away at any time, it's horrifying and dystopian when you look at the model in the grand scheme (edit: spelling)

[@michaelnelson1127]

Putting mourning and emulation aside, it’s good to see a fellow Picross 3D enthusiast. I’ve completed all 4 files on it 100%, and I’ve even erased a file once or twice to go through it again. As for Round 2, I did download it last year, and it’s still pretty fun.

[@JETEP3]

9:00 Nintendo gave you the opportunity to care. They gave you 10+ years to care. They gave you platforms to support and try out. You all were pushing the Wii U and 3DS out the door on MULTIPLE occasions before and during the Switch. Why should they speak on a past system when all their focus is on the current system? Does it stink that the shops closed? Yes. But giving the impression that Nintendo should say something on this beyond the year-long notice that the stores were closing? Nope. Can't go along with that.

[@Draezeth]

THANK YOU! If there is no official way to buy something.... IT ISN'T PIRACY!

[@BQuanchi]

One thing about this, and timing, is that the Dolphin emulator is being listed on Steam (which sounds crazy for an emulator). Also Nintendo has this weird habit of re-releasing legacy content, but for a limited time. Like for the 3D Mario All Stars game and the English version of the first NES Fire Emblem game. I can only hope Nintendo makes a effort to revamp digital (and purchasable) versions of their older content.

[@ianeons9278]

“The Wii U has a very sleek modern design out the box but a few sessions later it’s right up finger print avenue” - Scott the Woz

[@SLEEPDECAY]

It's really sad how many games are actually being lost because of this, some of these games never had a physical release so they will probably be lost to time. 😔

[@MadMaxxed1224]

Every single 3DS and Wii U game has been preserved for quite a while, nothing is lost to time

[@almightygod87]

@@MadMaxxed1224 Ya that and all the indie games are already on every other console/PC

[@GhostGirlBlues]

i loved kirby's epic yarn, but i didn't even know kirby's extra epic yarn existed until now

[@theViceth]

I see a fellow enjoyer of putting hats and glasses on any item one can get their hands on. I approve, Arlo.

[@deraile]

"Arlo with eyebrows can't hurt you he's not real." The thumbnail: _Allow me to introduce _*_Angrylo_*

[@graftical]

In my opinion, I feel like it's too soon for the 3DS, rather than the Wii U. Usually between shop closures, it occurs around 5-7 years after said console had been discontinued. The DS and Wii got discontinued in 2012 and it's shops closed in 2017 and 2019, respectively. The Wii U got discontinued in 2016, and it's shops lasted until 2023, around the same amount of time as the Wii's. The 3DS got discontinued in September 2020, and it's shops closes less than 3 years after the fact. I get the 3DS lasted longer out of all of them, but it's ridiculous how short the 3DS's eShop lasted after the console stopped being produced.

[@youtube_bat3811]

exactly

[@MooglesandNoponForever]

Buckle up me hearties! Dolphin, Cemu, and Hshop shall still give us that wonderful horizon!

[@joshuakolton9955]

That's the big thing that frustrates me about Nintendo: they don't seem to care about people wanting to play their older games. They just memory hole them and say too bad you're gonna have to find what you're looking for on eBay.

[@redgeoblaze3752]

I think that installing old games that aren't being sold any more should be called Archaeology. Piracy when they're still being sold, Archaeology when they're not.

[@web2871]

I gotta say, the puppeteering has gotten really good!

[@IPutFishInAWashingMachine]

On the upside, it is now perfectly morally acceptable for me to emulate any wii u or 3ds eshop game! Nice job, Nintendo.

[@TheMoris]

Noooooo please don't do this to the poor starving indie devs at Nintendo! They MIGHT remaster some of the games for a newer system some (unknown) time in the future, so piracy is still super immoral

[@Reyalty]

ah but you see; it always was. it is always morally acceptable and, in fact, is morally correct to pirate games

[@mojo3320]

​@Reyalty Very true, especially when it comes to Nintendo and delisted games! It's always ethical especially when they fucked us over with the handling of the eShop closing

[@blackearl7891]

Ehh its not moral. But I also don't care. Not going to make some mental gymnastics to pretend it's moral. It's not but at the same time I also don't care for the moral aspect.

[@TheDapperDragon]

​@@blackearl7891 it actually is when you can't get it in any legal way. That's the entire reason for nintendo selling emulators. Because then, they can use that as a legal method to play the game.

[@redi.c.e.6046]

8 months later, and it really is a shame what’s gone down with the Completionist, cus he did do a really good thing, put a lot of money towards doing so, with that preservation project, and now we just… can’t really look back and say, ‘hey this awesome guy saved the game preservation society, he’s the hero of the story!’, because that’d be… giving credit to someone undeserving of credit… darn it all. At least the work is done, and that’s good, but its just a shame there’ll always be this sour taste looking back on it now.

[@ade1174]

I have almost 300 games downloaded on my 3DS and over 200 on my Wii U. They were great systems.

[@LoveatFirstHike]

Oh, Nintendo is giving us other options alright, and for once, I finally went to the dark side and I’ve never been happier. CFW & HShop on my 3DS just day one has been incredible.

[@meisterwu8922]

It's not just the eShops that were closed. Virtual Console has now officially died aswell.

[@derekw8039]

Nintendo: * Hates emulation * Also Nintendo: * Thanos snaps half its legacy library out of existence, making emulation the only way to access them *

[@davidford5575]

Its bad, I’d rather it be open, but the silver lining for me personally was that this pushed me to play some games that I kept putting off. (Namely all the laytons, the gamecube Zelda remakes, and spirit tracks)

[@SintasSays]

The original 3DS eshop theme gets me so nostalgic that I almost want to cry

[@ExploDjinn]

Waited until the last minute, because that's the only way I operate, but I managed to download everything I wanted from the e-Shop. That said, I imagine something that I missed will be brought to my attention at some point, so I'm really glad I have an extra 3DS just sitting around that I can, uh, do stuff with. Like look at.

[@rockoman100]

I feel like being too into the corporate Nintendo ecosystem makes people say things like "Yea it can't stay open forever and yea it costs money" and totally forget about the fact that there are community supported projects to keep these sorts of titles alive that basically do last forever. When you remove the logic of profit literally anything becomes possible. There are massive online repositories of Nintendo games being maintained by rag tag scrap teams that also have to deal with dodging lawsuits and relocating data to other countries constantly, and some of these things have been online for 20 fucking years. Nintendo is making a strategic money-making decision, not a logistical tough-call that they regrettably "have to" do. They _do not care_ that these games are disappearing, because preserving their artistic legacy is NOT their modus operandi.

[@KingRidley]

Arlo nailed it about emulating games at the end. I've got my steam deck and PC. I'm going to download roms of these games I've paid for (some I've paid for multiple times). I'm going to establish a nice little permanent library for myself for my DS and 3DS, because I can't pay for those games anymore. Even though I honestly would, if I could. Also because increasing the resolution of those games makes them look incredible, holy cow.

[@timcroft9223]

aww, that's a shame, the option to extend the seafaring metaphor was there "it's not piracy, its salvage" good video, like always

[@DoMorrMusic]

Jirard is a chad for buying every single eshop game.

[@loganwernicke7604]

"And so began the great age of pirates"

[@edwheezer6231]

Dang, that section on piracy was really thought provoking. "You can't steal an item from a store that doesn't sell that item." That's... so true, actually. It'll be fascinating to see if the public perception of "piracy" starts to change as more and more stuff shuts down. The Switch eShop is LOADED with small exclusives, and quality of the games be darned, the majority of those will vanish permanently once the shop closes. And what happens then? Will Nintendo really expect everyone to buy and download all of the good games before the shop closes? And if so, will we really wade through hundreds of thousands of games on a laggy storefront with no review system just to find the games we want while also having to worry about storage space? Or will we just pirate any we learn about after the fact? I'm not quite sure yet, but... it will be interesting.

[@Boulder7685]

So long as people don’t get the idea in their head that “well this won’t be available in the store forever so it’s fine to pirate it now” I think it’s a fine stance. It’s one thing to either wait out the Switch’s entire eShop lifespan and then go and download the games sold for free, it’s another thing entirely to do it while you can still buy the game you intend to play on said hardware but choose to download it for free instead. And I can’t imagine that anyone would reasonably argue that it’s justified for them to download a game like Octopath Traveler for their Switch after the Switch’s shop is closed while they could instead be buying it legally somewhere else like Steam. I could accept someone buying it on Steam and then downloading it to their Switch in that case, but then at least some dues were being paid, even in a roundabout manner. And to bat aside potential responses, I chose Octopath because it’s a game where I’ve never heard any controversy around its developmental or publishing practices such as another case I know of like Nier; Automata with its excessively buggy launch state, or a game like FO: 76 with its horrible bugs combined with a predatory and unnecessary microtransaction system. Those have their own discussions, I felt like Octopath sits in a comfy place to use as a case study or case example or whatever.

[@cal7447]

Side tangent and I'm sorry but that angry Arlo in the thumbnail looks SO DAMN CUTE for some reason. Those brows. The jaws. Everything. It's so cute I kind of wish he'd get angry more often

[@ToxikDnB544]

Arlo: “I’m gonna have to pirate it!” Everyone else: “first time?”

[@megamocha2334]

I am really really really hoping we’ll soon get to see an “Arlo is blown away by everything his modded 3DS can do and how amazing it is” video

[@benjaminmajeski140]

it seems like an easy solution to this would be to provide download codes on the nintendo website, and then have e-shop be download codes only.

[@TheDavidish]

That would work with the compliances that made them shut it down, but that would make too much sense for Nintendo. That would also be too consumer friendly for them

[@youtube_bat3811]

exactly the same idea as mine

[@ianeons9278]

Just use a wet cloth to clean your Wii U, I do that with mine every once and a while and it’s good as new!

[@imperatorcaesar754]

"If they refuse to let you buy, then piracy you shall try" - Captain Oogway

[@SebsFinTechChannel]

What is that game at 16:12? I know i saw the trailer for it a while ago and wanted to get it but now I've completely forgotten what it was called!

[@SebsFinTechChannel]

Found it! It's called The Touryst :)

[@suicunesolsan]

This bothered me quite a bit more than I thought. I perused the eShop one last time and discovered Radiant Historia had a demo. I downloaded it and played it. Decided to try to buy in the last hour. Couldn't figure out how to add funds. Then it was too late.

[@MadMaxxed1224]

Time to mod 🥳

[@shanelawrence7438]

GET THE GAME GET THE GAME GET THE GAME, PLEASE, I BEG OF YOU. GET IT OFF EBAY IF YOU MUST. GET, THE, GAME.

[@Alan_Chapman]

They probably want people to forget about the Wii U asap so people don’t say “Oh, I think I’ll go finally buy that one Wii U game I wanted to play” and then find out their NAND flash failed from their console sitting on the shelf unpowered for years. I know I’m worried about my Wii U sitting in its box now.

[@ShadowsCrawlDown]

Hitting all the points on the issue! It's very sad :(

[@abcdefgee]

I can't believe you and you literally went to the moon to film that short advertisement!

[@tatsumitwi348]

Emulation is the digital equivalent of archeology at this point.

[@ulawan5]

Y'know, it wasnt until this video that I realized SO many of these games have just become abandonware. Like what a word to describe things, a piece of interactive art that human beings worked hard to create, no matter the end quality, the decent thing to do is to keep it around to be appreciated. To enjoy it for years to come like an heirloom toy or oral tradition. It wasn't originally ours, but now we hold the responsibility to care for it and share it with other humans to keep that art alive. (And the less poetic disclaimer: they may still be under copyright but at this point they don't seem to care enough about it for that to matter except for being petty)

[@Soumein]

I have to admit that even though I have 0 interest in NSO, if I did have it, I would probably try some of them. Hope some of them can make a comeback, either through NSO, the shop, or preferably both.

[@busyBaldurus]

Recently modded my 3DS and it's amazing. I can wholeheartedly reccomend it. Plays all my NDS, NES, GB, GBA and of course 3DS games. All in this neat clamshell design console. Somebody even compiled a native port of Super Mario 64 for the 3ds and it plays so well and can even be displayed in 3d.

[@staroutofspace4986]

I think the argument that it's difficult to maintain the legacy digital stores loses a lot of its weight when we remember that Sony was successfuly bullied into keeping up the PS3 store and Microsoft has never once announced plans to shutter the 360 store. To be fair, those storefronts have games that can download to modern consoles.

[@zjzr08]

I keep on thinking surely they can upgrade to newer architectures and update the store apps too to patch security issues right?

[@Sponsie1000]

l'm glad arlo spoke at lengths about emulating 3ds games, because it really Does just make sense to do in this scenario. There's still a demand for those games but nintendo explicitly told us they dont want to be part of that market anymore, leaving us with emulation as the most viable option. Even if they get mad/sad about us emulating, maybe it'll get them to not take down the online stores in the future,, thats on them not on us. It kinda feels like how workers can only benefit from breaking through the "dont discuss salaries with co-workers" taboo, if we have options to empower ourselves as consumers we should embrace those with open arms!

[@Bransbow]

Just watching the intro, would you consider making a compilation video of all the Arlos' adventures throughout the multiverse?

[@TurnaboutAdam]

So… Arlos are able to breathe in space? This is insane lore.

[@mr.awesome6011]

He's been in space plenty of times during Pikmin and Metroid videos

[@ribottostudio]

When you realize that because of this closure, we will NEVER get Gen 3 Pokémon Games, Gen 4 Pokémon games, gen 5 Pokémon games virtually like we did with Gen 1 and gen 2....Sun's getting real low. But what is grief if not love persevering?

[@Klonoahedgehog]

Gen 3 is mosr likely one of the games coming to nintendo online at least.

[@ihatealderney]

I mean, you can if you just mod your 3DS and install them on your SD card.

[@megaman37456]

@@Klonoahedgehog Mainline pokemon games will never come to NSO and everyone knows it.

[@megaman37456]

@@ihatealderney HUZZAH! A man of quality!

[@Klonoahedgehog]

@@megaman37456 People said the same thing about virtual console.

[@Spinner891]

Yarr matey! In the face of anti-consumerism, piracy becomes consumerism. Don't like it game companies? Then be better than piracy.

[@disturbedenvironmentalist2313]

I bring a “just pirate it” energy to the conversation that Nintendo fans don’t really like

[@therealtony5]

They’re just doing the Disney strategy like closing, and opening the vault over and over so that way they can cash in each time the vault opens like look at that little Mario collection that released for a limited time for a couple of months like I think it was last year or the year before for the switch and then they just stopped a perfect example of opening the vault and then shortly after closing it.

[@deltalord6969]

R.i.P to all the people who didnt download pokebank before it closed

[@however-i-disagree]

and RIP to the ones who didn't realize you had to download poketransporter separately

[@blue-ki5ip]

modding your 3ds is always on the table

[@Klonoahedgehog]

@Righteous 2k The thing that lets you transfer pokemon from the old 3DS/DS Pokemon games to the Switch ones. Not that it matters since some Pokemon cant go to the Switch games to begin with due to dexit.

[@digidrveKJ]

@@Klonoahedgehog yeah but having a living dex and also having a large space to keep your mons is nice but even then most people keep shinies and and main Pokémon on the game they got them on

[@Cruxis_Angel]

@@Klonoahedgehog this. Dexit basically made all your Pokémon hostage on home. You’ll never have a single game where you can safely transfer all your Pokémon. Gamefreak found a dirty way to make you a subscriber for life

[@WackoMcGoose]

10:28 "We don't even want you to know about the _existence_ of the old things!" Capcom, not only C&D-ing and suing people that created a fan revival of one of their old MMOs but (supposedly) suing _the players_ as well: "Write that down, write that down!"

[@cosmic_drew]

The 360 and PS3 stores are still up and running from 2006 but the Wii U and 3DS eshops from 2011/2012 are gone. I wouldn't be surprised if we're having this same discussion about the Switch by 2030.

[@casuallavaring]

They could do what the Megaman Zero/ZX collection did to emulate the ZX games, have the second screen in a corner and use the right stick to emulate the touchpad.

[@fred7796]

Virtual Console was far more better on Wii U and 3DS. On NSO, you can’t own any of the classic games. NSO is not useful, if I’m going to be paying for 30 year old games every year. Owning the games on 3DS and Wii U was more affordable.

[@Angelica-sq9lh]

Sorry Arlo, but the Eshop closure was the best thing that happened. When they announced it, the hshop finally came back! Best thing ever hehe

[@MiniBeas]

It could be classified as abandonware and I know The Completionist downloaded all the games and is donating them to video game archive.

[@oldoutlet6946]

It's so weird to think that the DS era is now officially dead. I grew up with DS, DS Lite, DSi, and 3DS. I even still play on my 3DS XL sometimes and it feels like yesterday when I first got it and tried Face Raiders or watched Bear Shark on 3DS Video. By the time I get kids, those will be their first game consoles. Dead or not.

[@patknack7368]

I feel that there could have been a happy medium. Any third party games for the systems going away is understandable since there are licensing fees and all that. But, if they're going to have servers to allow you redownload games, why can't they all their first party games to continue being sold on their website that can be updated and have it connect to your systems to download. That would have been better than everything disappearing. However, I'm also not a part of the game industry, so maybe that wasn't possible for some reason.