Let’s Build A Solar System Super Collider Featuring James Beacham

Why a solar system super collider would allow us to unravel the mysteries of the universe in which we live.
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[@Taffeyboy]

What an extremely engaging guest. Thanks for that JMG.

[@hans_pixel-me5mx]

Show me a particle physicist that doesn't think we need a bigger collider. At this point it is a meme.

[@ginz9r]

Maybe we live in a humongous particle collider then

[@oberonpanopticon]

@@ginz9rI mean we kinda do

[@oberonpanopticon]

Also I’m pretty sure a fair few particle physicists are against bigger colliders for the sake of bigger colliders since, well, they wouldn’t really accomplish much. Increasing the size of a collider gives diminishing returns but exponentially higher costs.

[@UsedToaster]

@@oberonpanopticon you are not wrong

[@timedeathe]

A 1000 killometers collider is enough

[@joes973]

Why the aversion to fission? It has an objectively excellent record compared to all other energy sources. We have to compare it to something real, not something imaginary.

[@Bitchslapper316]

I think this all the time. I'm also surprised we (humanity) haven't tried to harness a full fission reaction yet (I.E a controlled A-bomb). I suppose it's to dangerous and probably the reason the fusion research hit a brick wall decades ago. When people back then first proposed fusion reactors and said they were "10 years away" they planned on using fission to start the fusion process. Not super lasers or a warehouse full of capacitors like they are trying now.

[@mikkosorsa5305]

Very interesting show again as always, hope we will have James Beecham back again soon. I just love falling in to the Event Horizon.

[@darthjarwood7943]

By the time we would be advanced enough to build one of these we would already know the answers that we were seeking when we first envisioned building it

[@stevencoardvenice]

Exactly. Like trying to build a gigantic sailboat

[@voidstarq]

We don't just learn stuff automatically over time as we become "more advanced". How do you propose we're to have learned the stuff that requires this accelerator, without building this accelerator. Maybe having learned the answers to everything _except_ that which requires this accelerator is what will finally make it a high enough priority to consider actually building it. Maybe it'll be a similar situation to the Higgs Boson, where by the time the experiments catch up with the theory, the theory will have advanced so far that we'll have _guessed_ (with very high confidence, even) what the results will be. Then when the results finally do come in, they'll be unsurprising. Confirmation of what we expected, not hints at something totally new. That may seem less exciting, but all those theories aren't "Real Science" until they're experimentally verified.

[@darthjarwood7943]

@@voidstarq dude you can live in the star trek fairy tale land of building solar system sized machines..illl stick to driving to work on shitty roads

[@voidstarq]

@@darthjarwood7943 I don't recall anything like this in Star Trek. But more to the point, since it's the topic of the entire video, your critique isn't really for _me,_ specifically, is it? Either way, even your own previous comment was already entertaining the idea of us, in some hypothetical future, becoming advanced enough to be able to seriously contemplate a project like this. You asserted that, even in that hypothetical future, we'd have no reason to build such a thing. I disagreed, saying that actually, in said hypothetical future, it'd be the _only_ thing we _would_ have reason to do. You also said (I'm paraphrasing) that you have more important things to do than sit around fantasizing about such absurdly futuristic ideas. If that's the case... then, with all due respect, what are you even doing here in the first place?

[@HrvojeMikovic]

After the last conversation/video I kinda had a feeling we would get this one ;)

[@roastpork5437]

Oh this solar system sized particle accelerator was mentioned in Death's End, the final book in the Three Body Problem trilogy.

[@TheAmericanAmerican]

I think if we are going to dismantle Mercury it should be done to build a Dyson Swarm. UNLIMITED energy sounds like a pretty neat thing for our species to have 😁

[@SamThompson-pp4kj]

Lets build a clean energy network that everyone can use on earth, make everyone more equal and then go and explore space together.

[@LAMPROS311]

The best opinion about this subject.

[@Bitchslapper316]

Yeah lets have world peace and sing Kum ba yah together before we explore space.

[@TotalyRandomUsername]

We already have clean energy networks. :) It is called the power grid and in western countries there is nothing unclean about them.

[@SamThompson-pp4kj]

Eh?@@TotalyRandomUsername

[@Metameinitiatedbycontact]

I agree would just like to have the money to go see my kid then I will support all this money going to the moon.

[@MartinCHorowitz]

Looking Forward to the Galactic ring particle accelerator episode!

[@PlanetXtreme]

I have watched and listen to at least 100 episodes at this point. This has been my favorite, what a cool, down to earth (no pun intended) guest.

[@alexroberts4504]

Fascinating as always, brilliant!

[@stricknine6130]

These types of mega structures always fascinate me. Thanks for the video.

[@phenomagator]

We truly live in the Research Age. Future generations will look back upon the ideas, hypotheses and studies we conducted in the 20th and 21st centuries to build magnificent things one day.

[@ScottJPowers]

you could get power on the moon using thermovoltaics. there is a large temperature difference between the light and dark sides of the moon, so, embed electric cables that are made of a metal or other electrically conductive material that is also sensitive to temperature differences around the circumference of the moon, just under the surface. this should produce plenty of energy. not sure why we don't use it more on earth.

[@Stroke2Handed]

What material conducts heat poorly, but is able to keep a good temperature difference between two regions, yet able to conduct electricity extremely well in order to convert the heat to a substantial amount of electrical energy?

[@AnarchoCatBoyEthan]

Another fantastic episode, thanks to both of you.

[@amangogna68]

Great video and information !

[@musselma]

Great guest 👍 JMG-you are really good at this 💪

[@istvansipos9940]

great guest, great chat

[@cyrilio]

I wish I had 1 thousands of this guys energy. Amazing guy!! Need him come back every year.

[@ShirleyTimple]

I can't remember if it's in book 2 or 3, but the Three Body series features a circum-solar particle collider somewhere near the orbit of Jupiter. I'd never even heard of the idea that such a thing was even discussed in the real world! Excellent video as always

[@Bitchslapper316]

Book three. Yeah that was a cool concept. They also mentioned a large one operated in space by the trisolarans in book 1 but I don't recall if they said it's size.

[@halilzelenka5813]

World’s greatest bromance. Great episode. Looking forward to the next one

[@mktviking5339]

This is probably how the bootes void was created

[@BrentRichards-vp1cg]

science funding needs REFORM !!!

[@hackingispoetrypoetryismag2409]

Multiverse Size Collider may be much better I think, lets build guys, let's goooo

[@CSOne_]

The Moon is Beautiful in all it’s Scarred and Battered Body… Good Stuff! Great Conversation. Talks like this should be a Reminder to us all how much more is really out there to question, ponder and wonder about. We as people are often only concerned about what’s right in front of us, or what’s relating to us in a personal way at a given time… Conversations like this Remind us that we, as Human Beings are so much more then Ourselves. Energy = Everything

[@Blakearmin]

This is a great topic

[@bangyahead1]

Maybe we should learn to build a taco stand in space, before we go thinking about particle accelerators.

[@GizzyDillespee]

Before you trick the Japanese into powering your Lunarcollider, could you build a space telescope to detect ripples in the higgs field that aren't associated with matter? If you say no, then I'm gonna have to say no to your moon collider!

[@MrkraZzz]

We should be financing missions to Europa and Titan and not some fancy new accelerator that MIGHT discover a new particle

[@fr4752]

I'm going to titan for spring break

[@spacehog219]

What if that new particle found was a foundation for new technology in space travel?

[@stevencoardvenice]

Enceladus

[@pavelborisov515]

@MrkraZzz so you think we can find a new particle on Titan?

[@user-tm9ce2ik3v]

Awesome

[@JoTheVeteran]

Sabine Hossenfelder would call you an idiot. She says you don't need larger particle coliders.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

That's fine. Science doesn't care. You either need them, or you do not, and so far with the discovery of the Higgs, it clearly shows we need them.

[@terrymckenzie8786]

She’s building a base with dramatic titles to her iPods. Then the next day she changes her mind.

[@monsG165]

I would love to have her on Event Horizon, John will ask her great questions.

[@cthulhuhoops7538]

​@@terrymckenzie8786huh?

[@T.efpunkt]

The lady that said capitalism is good? Being called an "idiot" by such a person is a badge of honor.

[@LAMPROS311]

1:08 That escalated really quickly! Although I would prefer to disassemble Mercury in order to make a Dyson swarm. (Why not both?)

[@thakyou5005]

This is probably one of the most gamer titles I've seen! :D

[@virtualmonk2072]

No more ,stagnant science is no excuse for more colliders. ❤

[@justsmashing4628]

ok, wait a minute, I’ll get my spanner from the tool shed

[@akaROOSTA]

I was going to prematurely say that he mentioned that the amount of energy colliders make wouldn’t be high enough for SOMEONE TO SEE.. glad I waited until he finished his thought 😅

[@andyoates8392]

Its gonna take one heck of a really big collider to prove string theory. (righty or wrongly. Take your pick , we could never build one big enough) 🤓😁💚♾️

[@bishnubhandari2328]

Oh wow … James is the BEST

[@BrentRichards-vp1cg]

Build it just like the ancient aliens. Not at all. Free up the patents we've already made giant breakthroughs.

[@MaconMedia]

We should disassemble Mercury to build solar collectors and O'Neill Cylinders. We can use Kuiper Belt Objects (including Pluto) to build an accelerator. Eventually, we should take apart all the planets to build megastructures and a matryoshka-type of shell world around Jupiter and Saturn and dump everything inside them for later use after the sun has used up all its fuel or we siphon everything from the sun via starlifting.

[@nekomakhea9440]

He's thinking too small. Disassembly Alpha Centauri and build a galaxy sized super-collider, and collide suns together. /s

[@wricloud6385]

Does he answer the title question in the end?!

[@doronron7323]

Me thinks Beacham drinks far too much coffee.

[@thewholeeventhorizon]

You got that right

[@UniformedDisorder]

He said that on straight shots you need less power... why aren't colliders just shaped like a giant figure 8? You could get two or more stretches with long straight shots.

[@TotalyRandomUsername]

Can please someone explain to me what we would find that is worth the effort?

[@jasonbrady3606]

First thought it could be doable in space if the detector and collider sections was put in a sun orbit. Then add sections on both sides of the detectector. If its possible to build the sections so that the accelerator ring can continuously grow larger by adding deflection accelerator sections as you go. Starts out as a smallish accelerator ends up being huge, with each section having its own power solar power. Thinking if the engineering is able..not sure but think it is.

[@ArienMasterpiece]

😂😂😂OK then Professor X

[@jasonbrady3606]

o I wouldn't vote for a professor. Spin round spin round what goes around comes around weeee dissy. You never know what they're actually doing. They're out of touch with 95% of people, and have to fund their organization. Great specialists though. Professor Y is some chicken on a tray haha

[@laurachapple6795]

After listening to this whole interview, my Plot Brain goes, "clearly the OMG particles are the ones that escape from the aliens' solar-system-sized particle accelerators!"

[@EventHorizonShow]

We’re working on getting a guest on to discuss the OMG particle soon.

[@808Hawaiian]

Interesting topic.amazing guest talked for an hour without taking a breath?

[@marginbuu212]

Bonus: it can be repurposed into a devastating weapon if necessary.

[@Bitchslapper316]

My guess is they will perfect the technology to build much smaller accelerators that can deliver faster collisions using much less energy. Berkeley has been developing one but they are far from being used.

[@CreamyBone]

So fast 😉

[@BobSmith-vs5jp]

I loved the disambiguatorationality of this episode. JMG- you help make the weight of the day a bit lighter. Thanks again.

[@Toddhull6185]

The moon will have cities well be able to see

[@mrtodddelaroderie]

Can we please invent flying cars first?

[@luminousfractal420]

After you

[@youstandcorrected]

Is it proven that Dyson Spheres are the inevitable end station in energy generation/collection? Isn't it more plausible that such advanced civilizations have found more powerful and practical power reactors?

[@Bitchslapper316]

No it's not proven at all. Dyson spheres are from 100 year old science fiction books. It's absurd to think an alien civilization would build them all over a galaxy because some guy on earth wrote about them in a book. Even in a theoretical science sense it doesn't make sense. A black hole would be much easier to build a sphere around, they hold more energy, last longer and can be refueled. A dyson sphere would have to encompass a star with a 1++ million diameter while a black hole is like 15 miles.

[@voidstarq]

A *lunar* equatorial solar power belt? No, no, no. The giant belt for 24/7/365 insolation is a truly great idea, but that's the wrong place for it. A kilometer-wide geostationary orbital ring of solar panels is going to be the first component of Earth's orbital ring. It will generate ~2x Humanity's current energy budget. And no need for beaming the power down, it'll be carried by space elevator cables. (Not necessarily the structural cable, depending on material properties, we might need a conduit running along the cable.)

[@kx4532]

You don't need a beam pipe

[@iamsuperfritz]

Quick Q, why not just build a collider this big on earth rather than the moon? Wouldn’t it be easier to build it here?

[@Bitchslapper316]

It probably would be but it would have to span multiple countries and go over countless private properties. Just look at everything involved in building a railroad or highway.

[@mishkosimonovski23]

Instead of picking apart planets and moons to build something, wouldn't be more ethical to build star lifting infrastructure to get metals/elements from the Sun?

[@istvansipos9940]

little civilizations change the environment a little. F.e. getting rid of a mountain, digging a canal, etc. Picking apart some amount of stuff. picking apart a planet is not more or less ethical than that. It is simply a bigger project done by a bigger civilization. I guess, efficiency will be the deciding factor in this "starlifting vs planet destruction" topic. We'll see :- )

[@justinapps3047]

😂what could go wrong

[@harmonhendricks9207]

The moon would look a lot better terra formed

[@batmandeltaforce]

CERN is being used for nefarious purposes, we do not need any more particle accelerators. We have learned all we need to know with that tech.

[@istvansipos9940]

"no need to use the Hubble on an empty patch of the sky. It is empt... Oh!"

[@timedeathe]

I don't see the point of these mega structures as there too expensive and smaller moon sized one is probably enough

[@timedeathe]

Plus dismantling worlds could have gravitational issues and Venus may not like it

[@fr4752]

Lets not lol

[@Brazen1234]

7:51 wasn't exactly true..

[@YoungEducationUSA]

We already have an incredibly expensive particle accelerator, I'd love to have more funding going toward science agenda, but not at the expense of living human beings living in poverty. Maybe if people can stop hating on Elon long enough because of his political views he might get around to it. On the other hand, I'm very interested in listening to this episode about the possibilities of having this!🙂

[@T.efpunkt]

People like elon are the reason people live in poverty.

[@istvansipos9940]

Falcon 9 is great. That 1 great project aside, elon is a conman selling vapour ware. Hyper loop? Vegas tunnel?

[@Maxtastic101]

I feel like particle accelerators and fusion tech are all just a scam…

[@EventHorizonShow]

Why? What made you feel this way.

[@jasonbrady3606]

One way to ease that feeling is to have more than one large accelerator. That'd be one heck of a conspiracy, scientist and all. What's a winner these days I spose

[@istvansipos9940]

people feel a lot of things. In case of scams and so called "scams", all those feelings are irrelevant.

[@jasonbrady3606]

@@istvansipos9940 well they had a way to figure what the energy of the higgs should be at, or Higg deduced that value before it was discovered, hence higg particle. Now they literally have no idea if there's any physics between the higgs and the planck length. It is a huge expanse of space so there's definitely room for things to happen. Achieving the planck length energies requires solar system size accelerator. That would definitely let us know what happens in blackholes. There could be new physics between higgs and planck length, but simply won't know unless we look. Literally just have to look and see, like funding to travel to a new world... They should explain the statistical nature of the colliders these days idk a lot of people don't understand what exactly is going in the things. It's far past from watching nitrogen bubble chamber tracks of particle and anti particle pairs. How they going to test new models if we don't know if the simulations are correct? Ideas everybody's got ideas.

[@Sfhakrn]

This is mental masterbation lol

[@NoFaithNoPain]

Mercury HAS to go...its spoiling my view of the particles. Where's the Earth shattering KABOOM? and then after its gone... we don't see anything new.. oh well at least we got rid of that stupid planet.

[@ballsack6547]

ANNA has a lovely voice , pity she was A.I !

[@istvansipos9940]

she is an actress. Homo Sapiens

[@davidarundel6187]

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[@BrentRichards-vp1cg]

Trust a scientist Never trust a science organization Never trust anyone funding research.

[@hibernopithecus7500]

Science is all about not trusting science.

[@timedeathe]

​@@hibernopithecus7500then it's not science

[@T.efpunkt]

​@@timedeathe it is. All scientists do is trying to prove other scientists wrong.

[@stevelenores5637]

Not with my tax dollars.

[@GuiltySpark347]

How to Destroy a Solar System Possibly Half the Galaxy. Brought to you by Humans. 😂I think I know why Aliens might have been interfering with our nuclear facilities. To stop us from destroying the galaxy.

[@T.efpunkt]

Tell me you slept during physics lessons without telling me

[@petedude2lu3]

is this one of those science spam channels... :-/

[@Zetverse]

Stay a while and experience for your own. I love it, maybe you will too.

[@timedeathe]

No it's a podcast that does sceince with jmg sometimes 👽

[@UsedToaster]

JMG is the man

[@EventHorizonShow]

The only spam we do is the one we can fry and make a sandwich with.

[@terrymckenzie8786]

@@EventHorizonShow😂👍