Let's Chat HHN33: Frequent Fear Passes SOLD OUT & Insidious: the Further Announced!

Well, Thursday was certainly a wild day in the Halloween Horror Nights community! Early Thursday morning, fans rejoiced as Frequent Fear Passes went on sale, including Rush of Fear, Frequent Fear, Frequent Fear Plus and Ultimate Fear. The excitement continued with the announcement of Insidious: The Further for both HHN Orlando and HHN Hollywood. But then... chaos erupted as the Express options for Frequent Fear, Frequent Fear Plus, AND Ultimate Fear all "Sold Out." At least, for the moment?! Let's discuss!
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
02:43 - Frequent Fear Passes On Sale
07:00 - Insidious: the Further
11:43 - FFP SOLD OUT
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[@lilly4884]

We were only after RoF so we were able to get ours no problem thankfully. I’ve been going since 09 and was shocked to see the others sell out too. I feel like they should have announced when tickets were going on sale at the very least. Probably should have also warned that FF express quantities would be limited this year as well if that is the case. I feel bad for those that couldn’t get the tix they wanted. Hopefully they will indeed sell more!

[@DiscoLiz]

Completely agreed with all of this!

[@mechaguru2008]

Unpopular opinion: they're right to limit the amount of express, recent years have kinda sucked due to the amount of people both attending the event and paying for express. Limit it so express is nice but not required.

[@DiscoLiz]

If the express is truly limited for single-night tickets too, then I could agree. My fear is that they will just sell just as many, but at the higher price of the single-night instead of FFP! Guess we'll have to wait and see how it all works out!

[@90sshuffle]

Thank you Universal for limiting these passes!

[@DiscoLiz]

Booooooo! LOL

[@90sshuffle]

@@DiscoLiz haha Liz you are still my fav...besides Zombie Chris : )

[@DiscoLiz]

@@90sshuffle Bahaha I'll take it! Zombie Chris and I have known each other for YEARS!

[@karencolglazier8427]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I hope you are right and they do come back. My husband and I have been coming since 2009 and always got this ticket as of 2010 I think. I saw them go on sale at 5am but I figured I had a few days to get them was gonna get them soon. I was so crushed when this happened. I almost cried, now I’m mad. We split stay including hard rock every year and go all the nights we can. This year we were gonna do 7 at hhn. It’s more cost effective for us to do the ultimate than it is to pay per day. I am always ready to shell out the 2K for us as this is what we look forward to all year. If this doesn’t come back we will probably only go 3 or 4 nights and possibly cancel the hard rock. It’s not worth it to me to pay for the hard rock if we aren’t going to hhn every night we possibly could, the cost to me gets worth it when we walk back at night exhausted. On top of that if it doesn’t come back we will be extending our time at Disney cause I’m pissed off at universal. I’ve been a fan of universal since I was 5 years old and don’t think I’ve ever been this mad at them before. I know we can pay even more and do things seperate if it doesn’t come back, but to me it comes down to the principal and not getting any warning there was a change this year. Thank you for listening to my rant lol.

[@DiscoLiz]

Honestly, I COMPLETELY understand and empathize with your situation! I have friends in very similar boats. They're waiting to see what happens before canceling trips and hotels they've booked, because it's just not cost effective for them to travel without these passes. I hear you!! I would say - please call Universal Guest Services, ask to talk to a supervisor, and voice your feelings! Nothing will change if we don't let them know. If enough of us (respectfully) contact Universal, I am hopeful they will see what they've caused through their lack of communication and right this wrong.

[@karencolglazier8427]

@@DiscoLiz i really hope so. I will send them a letter for sure. I hope they are getting a lot of complaints on this and that they do come back soon. This is just really sad this is supposed to be one of the best times of the year with the event almost here and I feel so let down.

[@DiscoLiz]

@@karencolglazier8427 I'm so sorry. :( Just know you aren't alone in that. Hopefully Universal listens and changes their mind.

[@betsikenna3980]

Missed the drop for UFF while I was at work and didn’t think anything of it since it’s not normally an issue. So crushed that now it’s sold out, just so disappointed. Do you think the play is to buy without express and try to upgrade if they do release more or just waiting to see what happens? I agree with you 100% that I don’t think this has anything to do with managing capacity and wait times, it’s a clear money grab to get people to buy single night express multiple times instead.

[@DiscoLiz]

Ughhh I'm so sorry! So many people in that boat for sure. It's never been a problem before. I think if you're wanting to get either FF, FF+, or Ultimate, get those passes without the express and hope to upgrade. That way you definitely have that pass in case those are capped as well - we just don't know!

[@Houser01]

Will the "days attended by Liz" record be beaten this year? Can't wait to find out. Once again, I will live through you Aug-Nov. Looking forward to it and thanks for all the effort.

[@DiscoLiz]

Wellllll... after all this ticket drama, I'm going to guess no! I think I'll be a little less motivated to go quite as much with all the drama unfolding at the moment. But there's still time for them to right this, and if I love the originals as much as I expect... maybe that will help cure some of my current feelings!

[@derektownsley4589]

Wow, yesterday a stressful day.. 😅 I was on the phone from 11am-12pm when I was told ultimate was “sold out”. INSTANT PANIC! After refreshing for a bit, I ultimately was able to snag my Ultimate + Express, but dang. I can only imagine what those unable to get their pass with express are feeling. Definitely agree with the preferred use of “temporarily unavailable” if they are not capping the tickets already, as I really do hope this is only temporary. On another note, Insidious (HHN25) was the first house I ever experienced at HHN and man was that a terrifying intro to the event😂 Only did this once, but absolutely loved every moment. Lots of memorable scenes and character dialogue. Really intrigued by this being the franchise’s third house adaption for us AND it being heavily rumored for a sound stage (is this confirmed?) Regardless, this is very exciting. I’m definitely leaning this to be one of, if not THE scariest house. Also the way the house is advertised in the media release.. is this house almost taking the route of Poltergeist [based on the film, but having some story-telling and visual creativity?] It sounds like we’ll be going from the Red Face Demon’s lair into through the further. Maybe experiencing The Further through his perspective? Unsure, but totally stoked to see how this one plays out!

[@DiscoLiz]

Oh my goodness, I'm glad you were able to get it! Some of my closest friends were unable to call thanks to work, and now... no tickets for them yet. They're waiting hoping it will change, but for now, we're all stressed! I hate it! I'm hoping Universal gets enough negative feedback regarding how it was handled that they release more tickets. If they planned to make it a cap, at least give us some advance warning on price so that people could prepare! Oooh man, what an amazing first house experience though! It's not OFFICIALLY confirmed, but I can confirm for you that it will be in a soundstage :). I think this will be the scariest one too!

[@kazmc6244]

I agree this is the IP I am most looking forward to although I do love Ghostbusters. I've rewatched Insidious 1 and 2 so far, and plan to watch the rest this weekend. I am gutted that tickets have sold out for people, we are only going twice this holiday as taking my step daughter and not sure how much she will like it so we got single day tickets for 9 and 16 October. Maybe see you those nights? I hope your friends manage to get tickets sorted!!xx

[@DiscoLiz]

Yessss! Such a good franchise. I'm looking forward to watching again for HHN homework! I don't have my plans for October set yet, but perhaps so! Fingers crossed we can figure something out!

[@BrandonVoorhees]

That quote was actually the Bride In Black's mom!

[@DiscoLiz]

Ah-hah!! See? This is why I need to rewatch for HHN homework all over again!

[@AshleyIreyPhotography]

Rush of Fear may be different BUT I called less than 30 minutes ago and could get that with express :) CALL is my advice :) they are wonderful !

[@DiscoLiz]

As of this moment, Rush of Fear with Express has not sold out! Not sure how much longer that will last.

[@AshleyIreyPhotography]

@@DiscoLiz You're amazing ! Love your channel! Can't wait for HHN!

[@Paolo_DLR]

As a casual, "sometimes" HHN visitor, I still empathize with the chaos of yesterday. Here's to everything working out for you and your friends.

[@DiscoLiz]

Thank you so much

[@cheriemccoy-bricker9840]

I wish I lived close enough to buy a multi night pass. I bought my 2 single night tickets w/express. And that was over $500 So multi night tickets are def worth it!! I wish everyone that wants one gets one!

[@DiscoLiz]

It's definitely getting insanely expensive! Those single night express prices are no joke!

[@MrDizneyKing]

I was able to get my FFP early Thursday morning for "fear" they would sell out... and they did. My guess is HHN is pushing those people who couldn't get FFPs to help sell out the Premium night and maybe purchase Express for single days on top of their HHN daily tickets.

[@DiscoLiz]

I always just buy my ticket immediately because... why wait? I need it! But oh my goodness, I can't even imagine how I'd be feeling if I hadn't! I feel so terribly for my friends who were stuck at work and didn't realize they were selling out. I really hope Universal gets enough feedback about it that they change their minds. Annnnd I have the same thoughts about that Premium Night (which was no where near selling out) and making more $$$ from daily express passes.

[@dantheman5582]

Insidious looks totally awesome. But I hope they'll have Universal Monsters again.🤞

[@DiscoLiz]

One house to go, and I think your wish will be granted :)

[@AprilBloodengutz]

I watched the first Insidious last night! It seems only 1, 3, and 5 are free to watch which makes me sad! But I liked the first one and the previous houses scared me so I think this will be the same!

[@DiscoLiz]

Whaaaat? Dang! Well... guess I'll have to pay to rewatch because I need to do my HHN homework!

[@sarahcampbell7324]

Hopefully universal can bring back the passes before the season starts. That would really suck if they didn’t, but I guess we will see! This would be our first time going. So hopefully we run into you while we are down there! 😁

[@DiscoLiz]

Fingers crossed they get enough feedback to rethink their decision. This has been so stressful! And yayyyy! Make sure to say hi if you see me out in the fog!

[@sarahcampbell7324]

@@DiscoLiz fingers crossed!! We will be down the week of October 20th-25th so hopefully we see you then! If I do, I’ll be sure to stop and say hi!! ☺️

[@90sshuffle]

Liz, love your channel and love RIP tour...but just think how ridiculous it is to say folks wont come to the event because they cant get express. The difference between the UFF and UFF with express is $600. That is at least 5 nights of single night express. Im sorry, but if someone cant enjoy the season with ONLY 5 nights of express, they are just spoiled brats. The full season express has always only made financial sense for locals. The local fanatics have frankly become a nuisance, spamming the houses and making lines unbearably long for normal people.

[@DiscoLiz]

I get your viewpoint, but let me counter with a few things. The lowest single-night express pass for 2024 is $150. There are only a few nights where that rate is an option. Most nights in October run from $170-$240 for a single night of express. Adding express onto the pass a la carte is not an option many can make. Yes, we're blessed to be Orlando residents or local enough to attend multiple nights. BUT - many also work where using S&S or staying until the end of the night isn't feasible. So to get the real use of these FFP passes that were created for the fans/locals, express is necessary. It's not about being bratty, it's about being willing to spend $800-$1200 to see the event that we spend ALL year talking about. If this is truly a cap, Universal is sending a message that those kinds of fans are expendable and they'd rather have the more profitable single-night guests buying tickets and express for more $$$. Which very well could be the case! Perhaps Universal has decided they're done with the fans that kept the event running for years before it was popular. It's going to be a tough pill to swallow, if that's indeed the case. Fans are feeling that right now, and I can't blame them. My main complaint is the lack of communication. If they intended to make these passes limited, it needed to be handled differently.

[@90sshuffle]

@@DiscoLiz I totally respect your opinion, probably than maybe any other podcaster/content person in the entire community. You make good points and are right about the hardcore local fans really supporting the event. Having kept up with the spec season/podcasts the last couple of years, ive noticed two glaring common themes: 1) everyone recalls previous years being their favorites and those were generally one of their first years that they didnt attend nearly as much and 2) there is serious apathy and burnout by the time you get to season recap shows. Many podcasts/content stop releasing stuff until their recaps which sometimes are in Dec/Jan. That means people are attending so much that it no longer is special. After a while its just going to justify the $$ you have spent. Universal really needs a better system for express and season passes. Sell week long express passes or sell a fixed # of line skips for the season. Express is being abused and should have never been a part of the season pass to begin with. It should be for special occasions

[@DiscoLiz]

@@90sshuffle Thank you! I appreciate alternative viewpoints, especially when they're presented as respectfully as you've done. Always down to hear another side! I think there's definitely something to be said for getting nostalgic for years where you only had a few nights and couldn't get jaded about it. But then there's another kind of magic for going many nights in a season and developing report with scareactors in the streets, or favorite scares in the houses, etc. But it's very easy to take it for granted and get bothered by the crowds, the heat, etc if you aren't careful! I know for our podcast, we end up going dormant during HHN season just because we're all so busy with experiencing the haunts - often together! But you make a good point that we should be better about still podcasting during the hype season.

[@90sshuffle]

haha ftr Im very glad you got your tickets. We have similar tastes and I like your takes the best on RIP!

[@javier6175]

Even if they add more tickets (which I hope for those that don't have theirs yet), this makes me believe that the attendance for HHN this year will be higher than last year. With that, please Universal - add more offerings in the park - open up Simpsons Ride, Minion Blast, more shows, maybe another house. Grow the event even more! People want to be here, give them more reasons to stay ❤🎃

[@DiscoLiz]

The tickets sold out far too quickly for this to be the normal allotment of FF passes with Express, so I don't know about the attendance part. If anything, I think they're trying to make more bank over selling individual express passes rather than allowing FFPs to use express as much as we have in the past. But that said - you aren't wrong! There is a desperate need for more attractions and entertainment (or more houses!) to contribute to lesser lines. With less intimidating waits, the demand for express by the FF pass holders would be far less!

[@freedomfighter6549]

HHN is getting RIDICULOUS in regards to pricing! With the economy being what it is, I find Universal upping the tickets up to 15% is a pile on!

[@DiscoLiz]

Oof. Couldn't agree more! It's tough out there right now. I budgeted for $800 - wasn't expecting $900!

[@allimarie8743]

INSANITY! The real horror of HHN lol

[@DiscoLiz]

TRUTH! What a nightmare!

[@megsb18]

I started going to HHN in 2018, so Insidious is new to me at the event! I’m really excited for this one. The entire franchise is incredible and the further spirits are so spooky. I truly can’t wait! Also thankful my trip is short based on the pass chaos 🥲 I feel for everyone who didn’t get to get their passes according to plan, so unfortunate. Fingers crossed it works itself out!

[@DiscoLiz]

Yessss! I'm excited for you to get to experience this one! Insidious worked wonderfully at HHN in the past. Can't wait to see it again!