Let's Look At: Special Forces: Team X! [PC/XBLA]

[@bordombros]

NL, I have to thank you. You are one of the first people i watch whose channel is not centered around COD who did not completely bash it. I'm a big fan of yours and when you mentioned COD I thought "here comes the hate", but to my surprise you actually said some good things about it. I gained a lot more respect for you. You are one of the greatest You Tubers out there. :)

[@Northernlion]

30 hours of gameplay out of this title would be very, very optimistic I think. I don't doubt that there are some people out there who will (or maybe even already have) hit that mark, but I don't think it will hold most people's interest for nearly that long.

[@MercMercury]

The fact that you can see around corners without actually peeking out your hitbox. It changes the gameplay significantly.

[@willsmith7114]

I guess I can agree with you there, there really hasn't been anything that original coming out of late (with big titles anyways) so it is nice that this game tried to mix it up a bit by combining a lot of different elements.

[@Northernlion]

Hey, thanks! It's unfortunate that there are only two camps when it comes to COD online: diehard fanboys and people who absolutely hate it. I don't love the game but I play it online from time to time and it's fun. It's not art and it's not amazing, but it's nice to have a polished and well put together game with a huge community that I can come back to now and then for quick and casual play.

[@Northernlion]

This is a fair criticism and I'll admit that I played very lone wolf style, but (a) this was TDM rather than objective-based (where teamwork flourishes more, in most games at least, IMO) and (b) in my experience with the game no one communicates except to complain when they die, which inhibits teamwork. Compared to something like Natural Selection 2, the teamwork element does seem a little superficial here, but again, I understand the criticism that I missed the point of the team bonuses.

[@electricmiragemedia]

I like how NL plays it exactly the way you aren't supposed to (run and gun)

[@williamthebritoriginal]

Thous hast awakened a beast! Run for thine life NorthernLion!

[@georgem987]

Cover is a lot more important in third person shooters than fps hence why the majority of third person shooters you have a "snap to cover" mechanism. You also have a much bigger blindside in third person meaning you rely on teammates more to cover you. In fps it is also a little easier to aim as you are in direct control of your characters viewpoint.

[@Supersonicducksquad]

chocolatey smooth is THE best description ive ever seen of NL. so true hahaha

[@cynicalbrit]

That would be your mother

[@slygarbage]

The way the 3rd-person camera follows is very Gears of War reminiscent.

[@artman40]

Tribes: Ascend was the one multiplayer shooter that stood out last year. I wonder what's this year's multiplayer shooter.

[@xXjjjokerXx]

The chainsaws and miniguns are weapons that you find during a round. Not something you unlock.

[@GrimvOVER9000]

NL, do you have plans on doing BF4 next year? I know it's not really your thing, but you've mentioned you play shooters here and there, and it's gonna be a triple A title for sure, so it could get you a lot of hits like when you did the DMC thing. If you do, what platform will you play? If you do, you should go PC for the full experience, but you could go XBox for an easier time, and if you go XBox, I could help you out since I'm gonna toot my own horn and say I'm pretty decent at Battlefield.

[@Unpredictable114]

You see, this is why I look up to you. :D

[@jessechuff]

i understand, but it's more original than other shooters to come out recently. i usually appreciate games that at least do enough different to separate itself from all the others at least a little bit.

[@alxndr727]

Hey NL, in your lets look at for Dark Souls PC you said you might make videos regarding the dlc that comes with the version of the game. I know that was months ago but i was just wondering if you were planning on doing any videos.

[@JustFlyAway]

13:07 He has been killed by a dog 1 time and still a few minutes ago he stated that most of the kills in this game come from granades and attack dogs...

[@recurveninja]

There are some very, very different multiplayer shooters out there, the problem is that they're just not easy to find. The most known one I can think of off the top of my head is Tribes: Ascend.

[@mftnbeats]

Yeah, as soon as I saw this I was like, "why is he playing it like COD when he should be playing if like Gears. Probably why he's progressing so slowly.

[@GrimvOVER9000]

Just putting the idea out there. Battlefield as a whole tends to be a high quality series. Each game builds upon the last in some way. He used CoD as an example for a top-notch FPS, and listed reasons that if had he played a BF title he would realize is not entirely true. I don't want this to be a war between two franchises. CoD is fun, there's a reason it makes so much money. I just feel that BF has consistently been better made, and he should CONSIDER giving BF4 a shot, because triple A title.

[@Toastbrot1234567]

He didn´t even mention the team bonus you get when staying close to your team.

[@MidnightKoi]

Two things: One, I really wish we could have seen the dog missiles. Second, look at that taunt, the very last customizable option. Hmm... Looks familiar. Ryan! You're in the game!

[@jessechuff]

Also, I hear the in-game announcer. It's not obnoxiously noticeable, but it's there.

[@KrunchyKarate]

I wonder if Ryan commentates on a video in his head even when he isnt recording. It seems like something he'd do.

[@Darca1n]

Guys, if I know steam correctly then there's likely gonna be a flash sale on this fairly soon.

[@tommiboy500]

The gun you were using was a light machine gun, not an assault rifle...

[@jrikacz]

Is there any chance of you doing lets look at chivalry medieval warfare?

[@callofdutyMW250]

What's the big difference between FPS's and third person shooters from a tactical or game play perspective?

[@millionairejh]

the reason why the vast majority of ppl love cod is because it is rewarding for most ppl playing it. u unlock things fairly quickly even if you suck. they created a formula that addicts and pleases the majority and not the hardcore gamer. and correct me if im wrong, i dont think NL is a hardcore fps player, therefore he would like a game like cod more than something so un or slow rewarding as this game

[@StringCheeze]

I honestly thought this -was- a free to play shooter until NL mentioned it wasn't about five minutes into the game.

[@midgeamoo]

There have been 4 multiplayer shooters released on steam since the release of Black Ops 2, 2 of them have been free to play. I don't know where you're getting "too many" from, but not many devs actually try to make a multiplayer shooter at the moment. Compare multiplayer shooter releases to Puzzle Platformers or Third Person Action releases in the last year or so and you'll see how little a lot of devs want to touch this genre, since it's very hard to pull off well (as this game demonstrates).

[@doggod106]

Yes it is but I have a feeling that's because the developers don't understand what AK stands for.

[@BoomslangGaming]

This game is awesome. Nice to see your perspective lion :) we have a vid up to :) Boomslang from BoomSlay Gaming :)

[@MADKOALA]

man, I don't know if i'm brain damaged or something, but I tried playing cod on the console controller and i could NOT use the controller, it was just impossible for me, and I was playing for at least 40 minutes. You'd think that would be enough time to get used to a controller, but nope, I literally could not shoot someone who was right in front of me, and I still don't understand how people use those, it's unfathomable for me to think about aiming with that.

[@soranaru]

By who, exactly? [citation needed] 1500 is perfect for me. 2000, and especially 4000, will have my mouse flying all over the screen.

[@xos]

I was hoping you'd LLA this, saw it on XBLA but didn't get the best sense of what it was. Seems like it's just getting harder and harder for these kinds of games to do well though, with the free to play market offering such a similar experience.

[@zCeras]

Love how he COMPLETELY ignores the team bonus

[@joaopino10]

lol Ryan you have 1 assault rifle, 1 sub machine gun or carbine(CoD sub machine gun, BF3 carbine) 1 machine gun and a sniper rifle

[@doggod106]

This is the sort of game that you would see someone playing on a tv show written by people who have no idea about anything having to do with games.

[@TheNormalG33k]

NL, you should play the ControlPoint mode, it is what TDM should have been and you level alot quicker in that mode.

[@Cryodrake]

So what kind of hats can you wear on your characters?

[@sandnewts]

I think it has potential. It is a new release and could be heavily patched soon to improve on some of its issues. I will say that it looks pretty solid in gameplay. The level progression could use some work and expansion. I don't think it's fair to criticize the game for having similar features to other shooters. In a way that makes it a solid experience while putting its own twist on things with wacky weapons and unique visual style.

[@TheIndieOcean]

This a matter of taste/preference but I do want togo on record as saying I personally prefer NOT having an announcer/voiceover in a multiplayer game. I usually find them really grating.

[@sandnewts]

Chainsaws and missiles. And I say unique visual style because Cel-shading isn't typically used all that often. Nor is it easy to implement into a game. The first real game to use 3D Cel-shading that I'm aware of is Jet Grind Radio. Look past the character models and there is a definite style that the game has. Bright vibrant colors like Mirror's Edge, funny ragdolling like TF2, environments reminiscent of Homefront. It's there, it has potential. It was just executed poorly.

[@ValsharDDeis]

Hey NL are you going to a lets play on the new army of two

[@jessechuff]

Honestly, I thought this game is a really well polished game for XBLA anyway. I've really enjoyed my time with it. To each his own, I guess. I love it, personally.

[@TheIndieOcean]

Agreed. Some of my favourite online shooters (e.g. Battlefield 1943) have no unlocks at all. I keep playing them because they're fun. If the game NEEDS unlocks to hold people's attention, they need to go back to the drawing board.

[@SpecstacularSC]

2:00 Your head a-splode. Might want to get that checked.

[@Flow764]

Isn't Kalashnikov AKs74u a little redundant?

[@MrPacrak]

I think if the developers took a bit more time to polish out the game, like adding new features, improving gun play etc.. it could be a really good game. I quite surprised that it isn't as satisfying as Blacklight Retribution to be honest, as it was made by the same developers.

[@doggod106]

Yeah unique visual style and "wacky" weapons because super generic military grunts with filters applied to them is really unique and Ak's are so wacky.

[@thejackal007]

Stupid question (perhaps)... is there any kind of single player component?

[@15ShadowDude]

could you do an episode on Gear Up?

[@pfh12998]

I'm using an X Box controller - The Northernlion Story

[@doggod106]

That's because all of them are just based on gimmicks rather than really improving the actual concept.

[@GaugeMalamute]

This would have made a fantastic poison mushroom episode imo :P

[@lmedved5000]

I hardly believe the use of the word "scumbag" was necessary.

[@TheRayning]

As someone who plays Battlefield religiously, and has also played CoD before and after switching to BF, the gunplay in CoD is very floaty, clunky, and slow. Battlefield has very precise movement, aiming, shooting, and actions. CoD has invisible walls, sprinting is very wierd, and I find myself dying to luck more often than skill or me messing up.

[@TheDookieSlapper]

The only thing I disagreed with was when NL said in CoD you usually have to work together if you want to win. I do believe that it gets bashed unnecessarily harshly because its been top dog for so long and because there are basically no changes implemented from game to game. But overall I agree, CoD games are not bad, they just aren't getting any better. I also despise 90% of their community, even on pc

[@lollmemmSm0keweed]

Black light looks soo similar. So its hard for me to pay any money for it.

[@BadWordHater]

must. have. skulls of the shogun episode!

[@QuiteLucky7]

Do you play Black Ops 2 on PC at all Northernlion? If so, do you ever ask for parties?

[@Gijs_Sickenga]

I think the developers were a little too hyped about some of the features as well. The level select gimmick seems like something they made up and went "Oh my god, this is the best thing ever" over. Some other things seem to have been neglected as a result.

[@MidnightKoi]

More than ONE GUN.

[@red244]

CoD doesn't require teamwork. A better comparison would of been to BF3, where teamwork will win you 95% of the games. Plus the spawning system and such kinda suggests they where going for a BF3 feel.

[@Kim1234g]

i agree cod is not the best but definetly not the worst, it has probably the best military fps campaign, good coop (at least for treyarch), and a ok multiplaye

[@MidnightKoi]

It's a... TPS.

[@SuperDuckPro]

NL, do you know the channel IndieStatik ??

[@lTheRealDealGamingl]

The core game is actually pretty fun, it just has alot of issues at the moment.

[@Gorenghal]

I like the map system.

[@TheDrunkyDwarf]

do you help your team m8s in COD?

[@killerdkk]

Yup got to lvl 6 in 1 hour of play (trial)

[@doggod106]

It's a simple shader that has been around for a long time and it's very easy to work with you can literally flip it off and on without much trouble at all. "environments reminiscent of Homefront" just no, "Bright vibrant colors" again no, "funny ragdolling like TF2" that I can not argue with. The day missiles are considered wacky is the day I die inside.

[@TOFWHY]

All that reloading was making me nod due to Full Clip OCD Syndrome. But when it's an LMG I was raging at you a bit

[@FlamingNotGaming]

I think he meant graphics wise/not as popular

[@Radikal2699]

And then throws a grenade, not killing anyone.

[@gladitsnotme]

Poor man's team fortress.

[@willsmith7114]

I wasn't referring to the third person, my comment really didn't even mention that. If I was saying that I could say Dragon Age ripped off of Gears of War, which I'm not cause that would be dumb as fuck...I was more talking more about the art style, attack dogs, the combat, the customization system, and a few other things. The one element that really seemed cool to me was how their map worked, like NL said.

[@naughtyusername]

yeah i dont know. i was being optimistic. i have like 70min bought last night played one session. idk how much more ill play. its not a bad game, but defiantly not a shooter of the year kind of game.

[@callofdutyMW250]

People way over state how many campers there are in COD. And as someone how plays it some what regularly I can tell you the numbers of campers do seem to be going down.

[@mudkip1123]

Actually, since TF2 is free, This is rich man's team fortress.

[@DepressedSkorpion]

You're telling me that you didn't expect a new shooter to be generic?

[@IsaacInRealLife]

Whilst this game isn't spectacular, I do think the Call of Duty comparison isn't fair. i realize it wasn't a comparison of what this game doesn't have that Call of Duty does. but just keep in mind that games like Counter Strike and Call of Duty have been around and had time to be polished and balanced. comparing this game to them is like comparing a KIA to Porsche. no offense to either.

[@sandnewts]

I would say this game would do better in first person. Third person shooters feel weird, nothing feels aligned correctly due to the over the shoulder view.

[@MrJdubs82]

Well at least from what I've seen so far 1 problem you're going to/are having with the combat is you're treating it like COD instead of Gears of War. The entire premise is that it's a cover based shooter, you'll die every time if you run out around corners with your guns blazing instead of working with your team, using cover, and flanking.

[@T234-i6e]

the game is sweet guys, buy it, it's a short but fun experience.

[@ohhaihaihaihai]

Indeed!

[@naughtyusername]

yeah, thats true.

[@Mathute_87]

For ONCE, TB beat NL in a first impressions video. For a day

[@YingwuUsagiri]

This game feels like Call of Duty meets Team Fortress 2. Quite serious high accuracy wanting shooter with a silly approach like TF2.

[@MariotheBRAWLPRO]

At least the game admits it's not perfect. The loading screen for instance says "Needs more beard". See?

[@Gijs_Sickenga]

Yes, it costs $0.00

[@EsotericOwlie]

i totally agree with NL , there is no need to spend 15 bucks for such game...

[@blobbem]

Feels like a F2P game? Wouldn't be surprised because the developers who made this game previously made Blacklight: Retribution...

[@Roxfox]

Nothing like it...

[@shinigamiryuk]

I question FPS fans when something like TF2 is their favorite.

[@LostOasis12]

Not sure why NL wants to compare the game to COD. I mean it's a tactical TPS so wouldn't the more obvious comparison be Gears of War?

[@cyclingzen]

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