Let’s Make 4 African Empires.

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Whatifalthist

Whatifalthist

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@smorcrux426
@smorcrux426 3 жыл бұрын
"Egypt has the best combination of slave labor, fertile soil and warm climate" - Whatifalsthist 2021
@pabloarellano5485
@pabloarellano5485 3 жыл бұрын
A yes, another sure to be famous quotes of his, let’s ad it to the list
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 3 жыл бұрын
Just like the Brazilian Empire (1822-1889).
@rbvfeehfbudenrj
@rbvfeehfbudenrj 3 жыл бұрын
“I want to have sexual relations with greater turkey” - Whatifalthist 2019
@janvancura8412
@janvancura8412 3 жыл бұрын
Egyptian dixie
@danielduvernay3207
@danielduvernay3207 3 жыл бұрын
“Borderline slave labor” ik it’s semantics, but come on
@newromanianmappernrm4420
@newromanianmappernrm4420 3 жыл бұрын
Man once I heard "Albanian sultenate" I was really unsure if this was a meme video, but it's actually quite nice and educational!
@kaiserteddie9564
@kaiserteddie9564 3 жыл бұрын
albania=funny
@skavanagh2778
@skavanagh2778 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaiserteddie9564 where's the lie
@bretalvarez3097
@bretalvarez3097 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how important the Albanians were in the Ottoman Empire in the 18th and 19th centuries. The Albanians kept the Balkans in check for the Ottomans and when they weren't paid for for doing so after the Orlov revolt the Albanian mercenaries started plundering and ignoring Ottoman commands, which led to the entire region rebelling and by the 1890s the Ottomans had been mostly pushed out of the Balkans.
@duck1ente
@duck1ente 3 жыл бұрын
Analbania 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 pls laf
@mosterchife6045
@mosterchife6045 3 жыл бұрын
@@duck1ente Algaynia 😂😂🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣 hahahahahsvssvajsbdi leauegh plesksea
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67 3 жыл бұрын
Woah this guy sounds like Whatifalthis but his upload schedule is consistent
@user-yx3ht7tv1x
@user-yx3ht7tv1x 3 жыл бұрын
͏ ͏
@gerrardjones28
@gerrardjones28 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-yx3ht7tv1x how!
@user-sg3wp2qs2b
@user-sg3wp2qs2b 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-yx3ht7tv1x ͏
@imretardedbut7572
@imretardedbut7572 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-sg3wp2qs2b wtf how??
@numega7323
@numega7323 3 жыл бұрын
@@imretardedbut7572 ͏
@marrvynswillames4975
@marrvynswillames4975 3 жыл бұрын
1:58 Albanian Sultanate 5:35 Igbo Empire 8:45 Unite States of Africa 11:38 Anglo South Africa
@isaiahfraser2968
@isaiahfraser2968 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@algerianmapper6344
@algerianmapper6344 3 жыл бұрын
I read albanian sultanate and thought this was a meme lmao
@JustinianG
@JustinianG 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaiahfraser2968 here's an alternate history video of mine where I talk alot about africa, I think it's very interesting. I even talk a lil about the white south africans and the igbo kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4HXZourbaqVmNk Don't let the title fool you
@isaiahfraser2968
@isaiahfraser2968 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustinianG ok I’ll watch it
@domenstrmsek5625
@domenstrmsek5625 3 жыл бұрын
@@algerianmapper6344 Last sultans was Albanians one of the kings try to Become Kings of Albania
@nobodyofimprotance7615
@nobodyofimprotance7615 3 жыл бұрын
Yay, a video everyone is too ignorant to argue over.
@deuslaudetur2451
@deuslaudetur2451 3 жыл бұрын
I OBJECT
@Salnax
@Salnax 3 жыл бұрын
Do not underestimate me. I can argue about anything.
@mr.crowgamer6250
@mr.crowgamer6250 3 жыл бұрын
?
@torpenhigalak5909
@torpenhigalak5909 3 жыл бұрын
Ignorant? To argue? I object the very statement you have for debate and argument is the synthesis of human quality. To ignore that which you see befitting to yourself thrust to your comment is a ridiculous claim ignorance to your own selfish perspective....
@Aodhan2717
@Aodhan2717 3 жыл бұрын
Since when has ignorance stopped the internet from having an argument?
@IKEMENOsakaman
@IKEMENOsakaman 3 жыл бұрын
Although borders (not necessarily just Africa's, but the whole world's) seems and feels quite fixed to many of us, this video really reminds me that nothing is eternal, and "borders" between countries can change anytime with any reason, seen or unforseen.
@Judah132
@Judah132 3 жыл бұрын
Portugal : Nope.
@roverrange3674
@roverrange3674 3 жыл бұрын
The borders in central Europe were some of the most fought about and confusing in history and mostly "disappeared" in the last decades. Sure they are still there on a map and in reality but going from Germany to any of the neighboring countries you don't really feel that you are crossing a border. Only the signs suddenly look different. That really changed the perspective on borders here.
@kwikstik
@kwikstik 3 жыл бұрын
If a border can be changed because a farmer moved a border stone for being in his way, then yes, borders are very changeable.
@LoganLS0
@LoganLS0 3 жыл бұрын
America has spent the last 70 years ensuring borders don't change. Every time someone goes for it they get smacked.
@bevbevan6189
@bevbevan6189 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoganLS0 And very soon they are going to stop bothering. What happens next will be very interesting.
@taptiotrevizo9415
@taptiotrevizo9415 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah Africa gets some focus in this channel.
@jasonadjogble1310
@jasonadjogble1310 3 жыл бұрын
69 likes heh
@jasonadjogble1310
@jasonadjogble1310 3 жыл бұрын
@S E P oh well how the turntables turned
@mint8648
@mint8648 3 жыл бұрын
he has a discord now
@FizzahEditz
@FizzahEditz 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see some focus on australia
@spcxplrr
@spcxplrr 3 жыл бұрын
"lets make 4 african empires" - the french, british, germans, and portugese in the 1880's
@ikoonn_1142
@ikoonn_1142 3 жыл бұрын
Not funny actually...
@Bluemann023
@Bluemann023 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikoonn_1142 but true
@storrho
@storrho 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikoonn_1142 Too soon?
@michaelsilver253
@michaelsilver253 3 жыл бұрын
Woomp woomp
@laptv2144
@laptv2144 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikoonn_1142 nOt fUnnAyyyy
@lucaskurth6192
@lucaskurth6192 3 жыл бұрын
First latin America now Africa, whatifallthist giving the little guys some love
@walidechchafnaje9812
@walidechchafnaje9812 3 жыл бұрын
XDDD
@JcLazy1
@JcLazy1 3 жыл бұрын
💯💪🏾
@napabilirim
@napabilirim 3 жыл бұрын
... what about the cursed one, Australia
@lucaskurth6192
@lucaskurth6192 3 жыл бұрын
@@napabilirim we don't talk about that one...
@MJ-ki5vc
@MJ-ki5vc 3 жыл бұрын
Africa isn’t little. It big
@Lichcrafter
@Lichcrafter 3 жыл бұрын
1/2 of Whatifalthist subscribers: more alt history! 1/2 of Whatifalthist subscribers: more geopolitics! Whatifalthist: Both. Both is good.
@oitubeman1019
@oitubeman1019 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@weatheron1247
@weatheron1247 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@carlspringer7024
@carlspringer7024 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind the geopolitics so much if he didn't make such sweeping generalizations tenuously based on broad historical trends in countries and regions which he clearly know nothing about.
@Lichcrafter
@Lichcrafter 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlspringer7024 Huh idk I kinda like how he is able to establish broad trends through history. Do you have some examples of where he's wrong?
@oitubeman1019
@oitubeman1019 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lichcrafter he is just your average whatifalthist hater
@Benim_Turukum
@Benim_Turukum 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if a gen z girl found this youtube channel and doesn't know what alternate history is
@mal_3157
@mal_3157 9 ай бұрын
Is that describing you? 😭
@vinfacts11
@vinfacts11 3 жыл бұрын
i could imagine Michael Jackson becoming one of the top stars of the Igbo Empire.
@ymj4256
@ymj4256 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can imagine The language and music style will be different. And he won't even be named Micheal Jackson
@honeycomblord9384
@honeycomblord9384 3 жыл бұрын
Plus, his birthplace isn't anywhere near Africa. Gary, Indiana is closer to hell than anything else, and no, I'm not talking about Chicago.
@vinfacts11
@vinfacts11 3 жыл бұрын
@@honeycomblord9384 imagine his family and bloodline stills stays (despite not coming to America), that he is born in modern time, (where in this world he's in Africa, instead of America)
@lontongstroong
@lontongstroong 3 жыл бұрын
@@ymj4256 His name would be Michael Chukwu
@ymj4256
@ymj4256 3 жыл бұрын
@@lontongstroong but michael is a christian name
@Great_Olaf5
@Great_Olaf5 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, an actual alternate history video. I'm a little skeptical about one part of the South Africa one. I find it unlikely that the British would just aggressively seize the Portuguese colonies in the region, even parts of them. I could see them maybe buying them, or some other peaceful transition, though even that I feel would be unlikely. The British and Portuguese have one of the most stable and long lasting alliances in European history, I don't think the scramble for Africa would be enough to significantly alter that.
@MrMakabar
@MrMakabar 3 жыл бұрын
The Portugese had claimed the coast and only really went for the interior once the technology was ready after the Berlin conference. Also independence. The US did fought the British a few times and they also did just settle Mexican land.
@binkybarns7132
@binkybarns7132 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they would be independent by that time? So they wouldn’t care about the diplomacy of the UK? I don’t know how likely that is
@roverrange3674
@roverrange3674 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the Europeans somehow coming to an understanding and just merging all or some of their African colonies? Like some kind of federation of african colonies? Even just the southern British, German and Portuguese ones (I just can't even imagine the french being a part of that) would make for such a Juggernaut.
@PedroNadais12
@PedroNadais12 3 жыл бұрын
"The British and Portuguese have one of the most stable and long lasting alliances in European history" - laughs in Portuguese
@shwackedgaming4186
@shwackedgaming4186 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean but the British did give the Portuguese and ultimatum in the 1900s to give up north and south Rhodesia to them so I don't see why they wouldn’t do the same for the others
@alguien6073
@alguien6073 3 жыл бұрын
Just looking at the thumbnail, the 1st one reminds me of the bunch of West African countries that negotiate decolonization from France, the 2nd seems to be the British Northeastern part with the Nile etc at its peak, & the 3rd seems to be the British Southern part extending into German Namibia after WW1
@NorthPoleSun
@NorthPoleSun 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, for the 3rd map in the thumbnail, I didn't think it was a European colonial empire shown because of the lack of straight borders.
@JMOP1715
@JMOP1715 3 жыл бұрын
You know your a fan when you yell, "Yes!" at the middle of work when the notification pops up and it's about Africa.
@Walht
@Walht 3 жыл бұрын
I cried out of joy in the middle of a meeting
@walidechchafnaje9812
@walidechchafnaje9812 3 жыл бұрын
@@Walht LOL
@oitubeman1019
@oitubeman1019 3 жыл бұрын
same
@hessen5498
@hessen5498 3 жыл бұрын
@@Walht says the guy that works at mcdonalds
@omargerardolopez3294
@omargerardolopez3294 3 жыл бұрын
The southafrican one seems actually very interesting, maybe not good, but it does seem interesting
@yonathanrakau1783
@yonathanrakau1783 3 жыл бұрын
I mean real south africa is kinda worse than this with aparteid lol
@dad9979
@dad9979 3 жыл бұрын
God I wish
@C4Cole05
@C4Cole05 3 жыл бұрын
@@yonathanrakau1783 If Australia is any indicator to go by it would probably have quite a bit of ethnic cleansing going on in the background. At least SA would probably have a better power handover than the one from our timeline, since the current SA government is still riding the "We stopped Apartheid!" bandwagon, so if there wasn't as heavy of an Apartheid system politicians wouldn't be able to ride that train all the way to a comfy new office.
@yonathanrakau1783
@yonathanrakau1783 3 жыл бұрын
@@C4Cole05 i dont think there will be much black people in this video like irl since most of butuan died with diseases and majority of the blacks in the south probably dutch brought slaves from west africa
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist 3 жыл бұрын
@@C4Cole05 The we ended "apartheid bandwagon" isn't working anymore. The only reason they made it so far is because people in the past didn't have any good alternatives but now they do. 40% people who could've voted didn't vote in the 2019 elections but now more people are going to vote. So yeah their days are numbered.
@newwaveinfantry8362
@newwaveinfantry8362 3 жыл бұрын
Gold, underrated channel. Nobody does predictions and geopolitics better on KZbin from what I've seen.
@usedshoe3266
@usedshoe3266 3 жыл бұрын
Caspian Report is great for geopolitics but he doesn't make predictions.
@gabrielthompson7581
@gabrielthompson7581 3 жыл бұрын
@@usedshoe3266 you’re definitely right. Though I like Whatifaltist a lot better because of the reason that he does predictions. Just a swag dude B)
@vexintersect1312
@vexintersect1312 3 жыл бұрын
Except when it comes to leftism, this dude dont know shit outside of his right wing perspective
@davestylehenry
@davestylehenry 3 жыл бұрын
The new Bismarck
@gabrielthompson7581
@gabrielthompson7581 3 жыл бұрын
@@vexintersect1312 yeah you’re right about that
@iscokc1259
@iscokc1259 3 жыл бұрын
I imagined this morning in class when I was bored the AWI (African War I) in 2040 between United States of Africa and Egypt vs East African Union and Anglo South Africa and you make a video about each one. Life is good
@pedrohenriqueassis7915
@pedrohenriqueassis7915 3 жыл бұрын
2 consecutive videos? We are getting spoiled, good wait until those water wars!
@franciscoaraujo6624
@franciscoaraujo6624 3 жыл бұрын
Monarquismi é uma merda, tu ta no século errado
@Vitorruy1
@Vitorruy1 3 жыл бұрын
@@franciscoaraujo6624 Monarquismo num país de terceiro mundo é ainda pior
@leonardoleo5740
@leonardoleo5740 3 жыл бұрын
@@franciscoaraujo6624 Torei
@leonardoleo5740
@leonardoleo5740 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vitorruy1 Torei²
@mariatheresaofaustria5853
@mariatheresaofaustria5853 3 жыл бұрын
@@franciscoaraujo6624 cringe
@Hawklaxx
@Hawklaxx 3 жыл бұрын
Africa is such an amazing and interesting place. It’s such a shame that it isn’t more widely taught about and that most kids will never know more than the pyramids of Egypt :(
@kingofdragonsgameplay1369
@kingofdragonsgameplay1369 3 жыл бұрын
History is expansive, which means that the school system has to pick and choose which parts of it should be covered. Of course priority goes to events, nations and topics that have affected their nation the most. This means that, for the majority of the western world, Africa, South America and parts of Asia get left out, as they haven’t had as great an impact on the western world as other parts of the planet. Finally, as these places are not very significant politically in the modern world, they remain largely forgotten, as they rarely come up in news or political discussions.
@rare9931
@rare9931 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr...
@board-qu9iu
@board-qu9iu 3 жыл бұрын
I mean I was taught resently about the west African kindoms though that maybe because I was in a Pre-AP history course
@billydasquid1201
@billydasquid1201 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingofdragonsgameplay1369 I agree with you but how many times in our twelve years of school did we see a focus on American history and not world history. I had one world history ap and one geography course in my entire k-12 learning career. From Elementary to high school there was a strong focus on American/Western history. Although in math and science I saw a wider variety in education. If you ask me it’s a choice by the state to focus on American history. Hell growing up inTexas I had a Texas history course which felt more like a variation of American history.
@fearlesspotato3429
@fearlesspotato3429 3 жыл бұрын
And most think Egypt is in the middle east and not in africa
@themaximum97
@themaximum97 3 жыл бұрын
1,000 views in 5 minutes…what are we calling ourselves, fanbase?
@amydavis972
@amydavis972 3 жыл бұрын
Nerds, hahaha
@TheViperjs
@TheViperjs 3 жыл бұрын
Overly optimistic pessimist
@foshershmul1648
@foshershmul1648 3 жыл бұрын
Whatifwehadgirlfreinds
@Vitorruy1
@Vitorruy1 3 жыл бұрын
@@foshershmul1648 lmao
@willarmentrout
@willarmentrout 3 жыл бұрын
malthusian bois
@roadhouse6999
@roadhouse6999 3 жыл бұрын
The title sounds like something someone would say after snorting a line of coke.
@thatoneguy6578
@thatoneguy6578 3 жыл бұрын
With so many ethic groups, to cover everything this video would take days, Africa is such a diverse and culturally rich place!
@ryeguy7941
@ryeguy7941 3 жыл бұрын
@「 Deadpoppin 」 so diversity really isn't a strength.
@MrShadowThief
@MrShadowThief 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryeguy7941 Never was.
@ryeguy7941
@ryeguy7941 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrShadowThief agreed
@alezar2035
@alezar2035 3 жыл бұрын
@「 Deadpoppin 」 then why is India so stable and successful? Their gdp growth rate is incredible
@datoda3593
@datoda3593 3 жыл бұрын
it´s not only that there are too many ethnic groups, but rather the simple fact that majority of african states are still stuck in the tribal phase. You have entire civil wars and genocides due to tribal affiliations all across the continent. If the process of centralization and eventual creation of national identities in Europe went relatively well and organic, in africa´s case it was quite the opposite. Often times due to colonialism previously warring tribes, who had nothing in common would often get put together in artificially created states and have to now live in this new reality. Thefore nowadays There is no "black identity" in mainland africa and the tensions will only continue till the national and eventually continental identities form. Though fortunately things like the spread of christianity help the process, more precisely with the new religion different tribe now have something cultural in common and therefore something to unite under.
@NMCSG
@NMCSG 3 жыл бұрын
Whatifalthist: “Drawing borders without thought of culture, religion, and geography is always not a good way to start a society” Also Whatifalthist: “Let’s draw some borders in Africa for fun uwu.”
@juliannasreddin5226
@juliannasreddin5226 3 жыл бұрын
But he would think much more deeply if he really wanted to divide africa.
@realtalk6195
@realtalk6195 3 жыл бұрын
2:00 "people forget that the _Muslims_ were in the process of colonizing Africa in the 19th century before the Europeans did..." Those regions were already Muslim and that happened not in the 1800s but between the 600s to 1300s. The lands the Muhammad Ali Dynasty came to rule were already Muslim. 4:25 Shows westward expansion. Ignores that fact that Chad and northern CAR are already Muslim. Chad had countless Muslim dynasties (Furthermore, eastern Chad and western Sudan are historically linked, while western Chad is linked to northeast Nigeria and northwest Cameroon by way of the Kanem-Borno Empire). It's also unlikely that Sudan/Egypt would expand its empire southward given that it's completely different geographically requiring different warfare tactics. Uganda, northeast DR Congo and Kenya all have Muslim populations, and if southward expansion was an ambition from the north then it would have happened already centuries ago. 5:28 Nope. Central and East Africa already had Muslim kingdoms and they weren't Arabic speaking. Muslim rule doesn't automatically mean Arabic language, especially NOT if there's a pre-Arab Muslim presence. There's specific reasons for how Arabic came to dominate the regions where it has (which I can easily elaborate). 8:09 The previous West African Muslim kingdoms were already separate from North Africa. That's partly why the Songhai didn't have guns and cannons.
@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen
@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen 3 жыл бұрын
@@2.5chainz *Laughs in Ethopia and Mali.*
@marselo5332
@marselo5332 3 жыл бұрын
@@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen lol
@c.d.alexandernoble4380
@c.d.alexandernoble4380 3 жыл бұрын
Diversity is our strength theyll be fine
@awesomemangoes8072
@awesomemangoes8072 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these back to back videos
@xydya
@xydya 3 жыл бұрын
Love this new upload schedule, all top quality questions too
@emrysgeibhendach7572
@emrysgeibhendach7572 3 жыл бұрын
when whatifalthist upload twice in one week me me: ah its beautiful
@thomasleewens-horsey8341
@thomasleewens-horsey8341 3 жыл бұрын
dude you need to keep posting so many videos its awesome to have so much good content!!
@aceofhearts6202
@aceofhearts6202 2 жыл бұрын
I did this, my 4 African nations were The Western African Republic (NW), Imperial Egypt (NE) The Nigerian Empire (CEN) and The South African Union (S)
@yayadrops4147
@yayadrops4147 3 жыл бұрын
Im sad Morocco didn't get any love in this video, its the 3rd oldest and had actual potential of becoming a colonial power😕 Great video still🔥
@waliddrissi8370
@waliddrissi8370 3 жыл бұрын
The only north african country this guy probably knows is Egypt
@Turtle5454
@Turtle5454 3 жыл бұрын
im glad he focused on sub saharan africa tbh
@JcLazy1
@JcLazy1 3 жыл бұрын
Damn you jealous sob. Why can’t the other countries get any love fam ? Everybody knows North Africa.
@yayadrops4147
@yayadrops4147 3 жыл бұрын
@@JcLazy1 I'm moroccan and hoped to see my country mentioned, i still enjoyed all the others and I have always rooted for african growth and success, im a big fan of ethiopia, nigeria, kenya and rwanda. Those countries have bright futures, and I am not jealous, I just love my country and knowing how important it was at one point, was surprised it didn't get mentioned ^^
@JcLazy1
@JcLazy1 3 жыл бұрын
@@yayadrops4147 fault fam. One love ❤️
@KenanAdhari2000
@KenanAdhari2000 3 жыл бұрын
Please continue to upload videos so regularly like now!! I love your videos!!!
@life-hardenedschoolstudent2284
@life-hardenedschoolstudent2284 3 жыл бұрын
Damn love this coverage, I'd like to see more Africa getting spotlight, I have a suggestion please do one on what if the Mongols conquered Egypt and continue their campaign in Africa. I mean Mongols horse archer prove themselves to be unchallenged even in the scorching desert area like the Middle East, Central Asia, and Gobi Desert. This makes me wonder can they survive the Sahara?
@hashkangaroo
@hashkangaroo 3 жыл бұрын
In a word, no. Not at their population densities. They'd have to largely abandon the horse, the yurt and the massive amounts of sheep/cattle that they herded. They'd basically devolve down to the population level and ferocity of the local bedouins. After all, the Gobi may be a desert but it still has grass and water, and areas right next to it which are more grassy/wet; the Sahara is a giant expanse of sand with a few oases scattered throughout.
@YaBoiDREX
@YaBoiDREX 3 жыл бұрын
There’s no way they can make it past the Sahara. It’s much larger and emptier than any other desert they have ever faced. If they made it past the Sahara the tsetse fly would kill off there horses, which is why horses could only be used in North Africa, The Sahel, and Ethiopia in precolonial times.
@lif3andthings763
@lif3andthings763 3 жыл бұрын
@@YaBoiDREX They could take the bred horses in Africa that can withstand the fly.
@YaBoiDREX
@YaBoiDREX 3 жыл бұрын
@@lif3andthings763 They wouldn’t even of known the fly existed until it was too late. Even today there is still no cure for the disease the tsetse fly causes.
@abdiabdi3225
@abdiabdi3225 3 жыл бұрын
@@hashkangaroo there is a second less known choice which was to the kind of tried at least according to Marco polo so take with a grain of salt Mogadishu the modern capital of the state of Somalia which was an extremely rich port city and the landscape while not perfect could be altered and the population is more dense way more so and so the chance of them surviving in a pseudo-Mongol-Somali way is an interesting thought considering but are nomadic cultures but the use of the horse in the 2 varied a lot with the Somalis using the camel more but this all forgetting that the Mongol had animals breed for an area were snow is possibility every now and again while Somalia is on the equator
@evzenvarga9707
@evzenvarga9707 3 жыл бұрын
2 videos so close to each other? This is a blessing.
@PrinceJvstin
@PrinceJvstin 3 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute...your South African empire is basically a more plausible S M Stirling Draka, isn't it?
@danieldelaney1377
@danieldelaney1377 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist 3 жыл бұрын
Well as a South African I think yeah it is possible.
@_Larzy
@_Larzy 3 жыл бұрын
Man this content is always-top notch
@DeanMasley
@DeanMasley 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you are pumping out videos like crazy, i love it!!!!
@dokorobia8713
@dokorobia8713 3 жыл бұрын
I’m Igbo, I want nothing to do with any African empire yet alone Nigeria.
@ikengaspirit3063
@ikengaspirit3063 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Our people have never had a history of subjugating people and I never want that to be part of our history, even in alternate.
@kennyking9667
@kennyking9667 Жыл бұрын
True
@Jayjay20015
@Jayjay20015 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny how he said the igbo empire will take over from the sokoto empire The hate between this empires even reflex in alternate history 🤣🤣🤣
@montyjarvis2522
@montyjarvis2522 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos just put all the puzzle pieces of the books I’ve read together into one coherent theory, keep up the good work
@craftthemoon
@craftthemoon 3 жыл бұрын
Two great videos in three days? Awesome!
@patrickanquetil7937
@patrickanquetil7937 3 жыл бұрын
2 videos in the same week? This is a miracle!
@mahmoodali5043
@mahmoodali5043 2 жыл бұрын
I just love that he couldn't bring himself to call it "Egyptian empire" even when he was talking about an imperialistic alternate egypt XD This dude's egypto-allergy is so ridiculously funny XD
@SumoSuperemo
@SumoSuperemo 2 жыл бұрын
@6:40 He says Egyptian Empire
@jaxerman5965
@jaxerman5965 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I've been waiting for.
@Thorite_Gem
@Thorite_Gem 3 жыл бұрын
You're cranking out the content. I'm loving it :D
@Full_Egoism
@Full_Egoism 3 жыл бұрын
A second Whatifalthist Video this week, he must be crunching to make both of these at the same time.
@andrewlechner6343
@andrewlechner6343 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Latin America one was a project he's been working on for a while. And this video is just him putting a maps together in a day or two.
@kolawaleojomo6817
@kolawaleojomo6817 3 жыл бұрын
The Igbo empire doesn't work. First off, the Igbo traditionally weren't a united people. In fact, they still aren't. Second if the Igbo rebel against the Sokoto, other kingdoms would rebel too and the most likely result would be a patchwork of free states, some more powerful than others, but no empires. In fact, the only thing the Sokoto Caliphate had going for it was it's use of calvary. I would know since they conquered the plains Yoruba easily enough but started to falter once they reached us forest Yoruba. It seems you're not considering the restrictions terrain had on the actual empires that formed in West Africa. They came at us every time and their horses faltered every time. The ones we didn't kill, the tsetse flies did. ✌🏿
@BasicLib
@BasicLib 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, made a similar comment myself. I think not to may people know of how the societies of pre colonial Africa actually operated. If anything, the Yoruba, Edo or Ashanti were in the best position to do what Rudyard wants. ill post my original comment below.
@reggiestockton8166
@reggiestockton8166 3 жыл бұрын
He made a statement about Igbo cultural values being similar to European values. I feel like since Igbo's statistically thrive economically in the West, he thinks that they are most competent to form an empire. I don't know how I feel about that. Kind of put me off to be honest. I'm glad someone is making interesting videos like this. I wish he had known more about Africa though, especially West Africa. It felt like everything was in relation to Europe or Islam. I understand that its hard to discuss what-ifs like this without these comparisons, but this video is a lot different than what I expected.
@kolawaleojomo6817
@kolawaleojomo6817 3 жыл бұрын
@@reggiestockton8166 Yeah. It almost seems as if he believes that only civilisations that mirror the West are capable of success. What he's not understanding is that the Igbo thrive EVERYWHERE, in fact it's one of the reasons why the civil war happened. I do agree that his content is ❤️, but this man doesn't think Africa is important at all on the world stage, how do you expect him to know twat about us? It's vexing. To be fair, his opinions are his business. I just wish he'd pay a bit more attention to Africa and actually know what he's talking about. Hey Whatifalthist! I hope you see this!😒
@kolawaleojomo6817
@kolawaleojomo6817 3 жыл бұрын
@@BasicLib exactly my point. It seems if we want accurate stuff on Africa, we'd have to do it ourselves.
@BasicLib
@BasicLib 3 жыл бұрын
@@kolawaleojomo6817 Here was my original comment: Hey Whatifalthist, Nigerian Here I think your analysis of West Africa is a bit wrong. West Africa above the the Mangrove and Tropical rainforests (i.e the Sahel) has mostly been dominated by herder cultures with strong urban tendencies. One of the most notable things about the Igbo is that they had historically been the most decentralised, non urbanised and semi anarchist society in the region. Igbo society is very much based in the tribal chieftains and local communities with very little sense of a greater igbo identity beyond linguistic until the Colonial era, In fact a lot of Slaves came from the frequent infighting within and between Igbo communities. This led to them having the lowest population of the Big 3 in Nigeria (Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo respectively) In contrast to that the Yoruba and Hausa operated highly urban traditional iron age kingdoms with warrior aristocracies and complex institutions of state power. The Hausa however after becoming muslim and gaining access to european firearms became very expansionist and swallowed many smaller communities. As the Sooto Caliphate, They had 2 major wars with the Yoruba in the 17th Century and almost conquered the Oyo Empire. If any society fits the bill of hat you actually expect to from your West African Superstate, it would be the Yoruba or maybe the Benin (Edo). The Igbo simply did not have the institutions for such. Also the Ashanti of Ghana are a good fit as well Till this day, wester Nigeria has the highest GDP per capita, Literacy rates and Human development indexes in not just the entire country, but All of west Africa. And are the second largest Sub-Saharan Ethnic Group on the planet (Only behind the Hausa). I think you need to look into Nigeria and broadly west Africa more, an alternate history of the region could be very fascinating. Love your work and have been an avid follower for 3 years now.
@arshanhalalkhor7007
@arshanhalalkhor7007 3 жыл бұрын
Man your videos are so good that not only I don’t skip any of it I pause to read the great info graphics. Keep up the good work👍
@Brosowski
@Brosowski 3 жыл бұрын
I tried this at first a while ago and it said I couldn't watch it...thankfully it works now! Great work dude!
@johanbarnard3435
@johanbarnard3435 2 жыл бұрын
The South African empire nearly did happen. At one point Zambia, Zimbabwe, Botswana and Namibia where under South Africa's government with them running more like "states" in the US than countries. Many still think it should have stayed that way and too much division happened mostly because of the vast amount of different African tribes who all wanted to rule themselves instead of joining together to form one bigger and stronger nation
@MGood-ij1hi
@MGood-ij1hi 3 жыл бұрын
It's ironic that resistance to the diseases common to Europe made Africans suitable for enslavement , and later citizenship in European colonies, but lack of resistance to those diseases by Native Americans eliminated most of their populations facilitating European conquest and colonization of Native American lands. Also, lack of resistance to diseases common to Africa by Europeans prevented Africa from becoming another Australia , Americas, or Canada. So much of history was determined by microbes.
@justinkoross5864
@justinkoross5864 3 жыл бұрын
Good watch, another great Whatifalthist video.
@maxmustermann9515
@maxmustermann9515 3 жыл бұрын
I really love that high amount of output
@Newbmann
@Newbmann 3 жыл бұрын
Whos ready for another clipable quote about egypt after it being easy to opress. Edit ah yes best combonation of slave labor fertile soil and warm climate.
@mr.wilmer2588
@mr.wilmer2588 3 жыл бұрын
If I had to chose 5 people to bring with me into the apocalypse, Whatifaltist would be my first pick for the purpose of structuring and planning a post apocalypse civilization.
@Ayyydrianne
@Ayyydrianne 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the posts I love these videos keep it up
@Theiliteritesbian
@Theiliteritesbian 2 жыл бұрын
That WAS fun!
@jaydencoleman9068
@jaydencoleman9068 3 жыл бұрын
Thought this was gonna be a 'how to' video with a practical demonstration but this is cool too.
@hattruck8607
@hattruck8607 3 жыл бұрын
I love African History
@David_Box
@David_Box 3 жыл бұрын
@Lakshay Gupta of course they do, and one of the most interesting ones at that. It's just that it wasn't preety nice during modern times.
@Car-ms5fk
@Car-ms5fk 3 жыл бұрын
Back to back daily uploads!
@DaR3b3L
@DaR3b3L 2 жыл бұрын
Love this speculative video!
@gologe3328
@gologe3328 3 жыл бұрын
This was so fast!
@donm5354
@donm5354 3 жыл бұрын
The MY PILLOW guy is on the verge of turning Egypt into a Giza Cotton EMPIRE making bed sheets.
@edward986
@edward986 3 жыл бұрын
I missed these ones so much. Geopolitics is interesting but heavy and long, and this alt history is just entertaining and interesting. He litterally said lets have some fun
@dougnorthcote3420
@dougnorthcote3420 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video per usual. The comment at about 0:41 about the Swedish empire.... love to see one on if Gustavus Adolphus has lived a longer life.
@epicgamerzfail4575
@epicgamerzfail4575 3 жыл бұрын
Whatifalthist slowly covering all the third world, um, worlds.
@_KOANS
@_KOANS 3 жыл бұрын
Your audio recording has gotten louder and clearer. That is music to my ears considering the fact that I watch most of your content while at work with one air pod in. I could barely hear you on older videos.
@nathandessalegne3970
@nathandessalegne3970 3 жыл бұрын
You're an absolute gem!
@shzarmai
@shzarmai 3 жыл бұрын
In any case, Great Video and my favourite map in this video is the ''West African Civilization'' Map.
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion 3 жыл бұрын
I always like the one about Muhammad Ali's dynasty scenario because it is one of the most famous and the most likely situation as well if the Europeans didn't poke their noses into where they don't belong.
@luscien3665
@luscien3665 3 жыл бұрын
Great video... Like always! Can you make a video of *"What if the Middle East and North Africa became Christian?"* U choose the year.
@bobwinters5572
@bobwinters5572 3 жыл бұрын
They did, and that Christianity was explicitly the state religion of the Eastern Roman Empire. Then Mohammed came up with his version of Protestantism 1000 years before Martin Luther. He wasn't even the only one doing that at the time (or before), he was the most successful empire builder of the bunch. Universalist monotheism has been producing charismatic preachers who've produced updated versions ever since it began. Fewer are produced in good times when strong political hierarchies keep their opponents down and more when those hierarchies break down and rebellion and civil war break out.
@bard001
@bard001 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobwinters5572 u clearly dont know what are you talking about
@abdiabdi3225
@abdiabdi3225 3 жыл бұрын
@North Sea Pirate almost Muslims have a very different view on Jesus existence than Christians so maybe what Druze Yazidis or Alawites are to Islam would be a slightly better description each of these broke away in some way and become their own thing from Islam.
@bobwinters5572
@bobwinters5572 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdiabdi3225 There were early Christians who also did not view Christ as divine such as the Ebionites (300s). The Arians (named for Arius of Alexandria, 300s) also denied the Trinity. Early Christianity was very amorphous and adapted to local conditions, even amongst the Arabs. It was Constantine (Roman emperor) who established the notion of a definitive Church hierarchy and ruleset (the Council of Nicaea), which he based on his own system of ruling the Late Empire. That notion of a definitive hierarchy linked to the Roman Empire didn't fit well outside that Empire. The Church of Rome, which post-Empire adapted to appeal to the Germanic conquerors of the Western Empire, would eventually also clash with, and be heretical to, the Orthodox Imperial Church. By pointing to various Islamic sects, I'd add the Almohads and Wahhabis in your list, you just reinforce my original point about the recurring impact of charismatic preachers, empire building and otherwise, who've adopted and adapted the notion of a universalist monotheism to their particular conditions. My guess is that the OP was really talking about a middle east that adopted the teachings of the Church of Rome. Somehow I don't think the cultural viewpoints of Germanic tribes has ever fit very well in the Mideast. The French tried to introduce the Church of Rome to Christians in Lebanon during the Mandate period through their schools and the locals just stuck with their own local versions of Christianity. Constantine's Orthodoxy didn't fit very well in Roman Egypt either, which is partly why that region was so easy to conquer for Mohammed's followers.
@jakebolger6248
@jakebolger6248 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid
@badmoth242xl3
@badmoth242xl3 3 жыл бұрын
Whatifalthist is on roll with this one
@jnlarge7244
@jnlarge7244 3 жыл бұрын
Totally read that title as age of empires 4
@bajlozi6873
@bajlozi6873 3 жыл бұрын
Albo-Egyptian empire for the win 😁
@someguysomeone3543
@someguysomeone3543 3 жыл бұрын
While some Albanian fighters did move to Egypt with Muhammad, their numbers wouldn't have been great enough to influence culture.
@gameoflife9576
@gameoflife9576 3 жыл бұрын
This gotta be the weirdest moment in albanian history but hey,conquering Egypt is always cool! Gjithashtu,çkemi bashkatdhetarë!
@manetho5134
@manetho5134 3 жыл бұрын
@@gameoflife9576 @Kastravec Shushtavec There isn't any Albanian influence on Egyptian culture at all, ask any random Egyptian in street about what albania is and he will either mishear it Germany( because Germany is called "Almanyia" in Egypt so they have similar sounding names) or they will think you are saying something about natural Cow Milk ( plural of Milk in arabic is "Alban") and believe me I'm telling you this from personal experience, Egyptian don't know what the hell albania is lol imagine believing fucking useless Albania conquered Egypt while it was just a worthless province in the ottoman Empire, Albanians soldiers at Muhammed Ali's time were called in Arabic Arna'uut or Arna'uud( turkish was Arnavut or Arnaut) and to this day some few Egyptians have Arna'uut as there family name(and if you ask them they still won't know what albania is😂😂), that's the only albanian influence on Modern Egypt, even mohammed Ali got rid them and replaced them by native Egyptian soldiers to build Egypt's modern Army
@bajlozi6873
@bajlozi6873 3 жыл бұрын
@@manetho5134 we know man
@bajlozi6873
@bajlozi6873 3 жыл бұрын
@@gameoflife9576 Pershendetje :)
@bigmanshams9800
@bigmanshams9800 3 жыл бұрын
yes, yes, yes! 2 vids in one week!
@halo3soap114
@halo3soap114 3 жыл бұрын
2 whatifalthist vidoes in a couple days wow!
@malachyquested7653
@malachyquested7653 3 жыл бұрын
I read the title and assumed this was a shark tank style pitch to make 4 African empires
@scottishbananaclan
@scottishbananaclan 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@squiddybingus5590
@squiddybingus5590 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be cool to see an alternate history where the dutch or swedish get to the northeast before the brittish and do something with it
@VitoTorpedo.
@VitoTorpedo. 3 жыл бұрын
please more videos like this
@shzarmai
@shzarmai 3 жыл бұрын
Finally Whatifalthist talks about Africa, though I hope he talks about Central Asia and Southeast Asia in future videos though.........
@sovereignwill6020
@sovereignwill6020 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck yea, Africa getting some love
@charlesnegash
@charlesnegash 3 жыл бұрын
People always forget about the Glorious victories of Amda Seyon, zara yacob , Dawit II & Yeshaq & Caleb of Aksum.
@aradat9671
@aradat9671 2 жыл бұрын
Ik bro 😔Amda seyon and Caleb are Warriors my fav
@bow2572
@bow2572 3 жыл бұрын
loving the new mic
@MountainDewbies
@MountainDewbies 3 жыл бұрын
Keep em coming, your content is so amazing!! Thanks for all the hard work, it’s genuinely appreciated (:
@panzerfury6579
@panzerfury6579 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that EU4 doesn't advertise on your channel is a gross oversight, half the things you discuss give me ideas for games.
@JustinianG
@JustinianG 3 жыл бұрын
I think my timelines would give u ideas for games
@Maximooch
@Maximooch 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot this was an alternate history channel
@toobeast673
@toobeast673 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked so fast thinking I would get to see Ethiopian Empire v3. You broke my heart less than a minute into the vid 😔
@TheArctofireHD
@TheArctofireHD 3 жыл бұрын
Two videos in a week! We're spoiled!
@inferno_slayer
@inferno_slayer 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how far a somewhat or completely independent Anglo population could conquer if given South Africa
@MrDanChandler
@MrDanChandler 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember the short-lived Central African Empire? RIP
@tauempire1793
@tauempire1793 3 жыл бұрын
I man I know a few central to southern African Empire's lmao
@MrDanChandler
@MrDanChandler 3 жыл бұрын
@@tauempire1793 It's the Central African Republic, but with a dictator with a particularly big ego. Studied Napoleon's coronation ceremony and copied it. Was also a cannibal. Multiple wives too -- they had a village by his mansion.
@marcusholbert2525
@marcusholbert2525 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video so much right now. 🌍 Missed a great opportunity to call Mansa Musa a Tyrone.
@danielduke7310
@danielduke7310 3 жыл бұрын
I love this content and I would like to read more. Is there anywhere you cite your sources?
@JustinianG
@JustinianG 3 жыл бұрын
I made a vid where I made some great powers out of some african countries logically. I even spoke a bit about the igbo kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4HXZourbaqVmNk don't let the title fool you.
@psylow9335
@psylow9335 3 жыл бұрын
Two videos on 2 days! Is it my birthday?
@AntonioBrandao
@AntonioBrandao 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video about slavery around the world throughout history, from at least 3500BC!
@tomasbos6309
@tomasbos6309 3 жыл бұрын
Omg another upload
@JcLazy1
@JcLazy1 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s go !!! 💯💪🏾
@gyrotor1783
@gyrotor1783 3 жыл бұрын
That last one sounds uncannily close to the Draka
@mshaqed2538
@mshaqed2538 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, where's Morocco's empire? They Expanded into West Africa using guns in the 16th century and caused so much chaos that had they won against Mali Morocco would have probably developed a colonial empire in the region. I'm not really complaining, I absolutely love the fact you finally posted a good althis video on Africa, but like, just consider this idea, please. Also, what about a more successful Mutapa or Rozvi empire? The kingdom of Mutapa was able to defend itself against several Portuguese invasions, and had they learned how to build guns, I can clearly see them beating up the weak Portuguese positions in Mozambique and reaching the sea, which could allow them to sell their massive quantities of gold worldwide and maybe even develop a navy and dominate the east African trade lanes to Arabia. The Rozvi are another contender, as they inherited the Mutapa after the kingdom fell into a civil war, pushed the Portuguese back, again, and created a decentralized but heavily militaristic society that lasted until the second half of the 19th century, when their weakened state finally broke after several European invasions and attacks from neighboring kingdoms. Had they been able to get guns and push back the invaders, they could've probably expanded in all directions and maybe even stop the British attempts at colonizing the area, perhaps by gaining another great power as an anti-British ally and playing a similar game to Ethiopia. Again, just think about it.
@Drgguv
@Drgguv 3 жыл бұрын
Not really Morocco, the problem is that they didn't not have enough material you see, after they conquer a weakened shongai by civil wars which didn't fought seriously at all, they lost agaist the dendi kingdom where they have to fight in a swamp and if it wasn't for reinforcemtn they would have lost to Mali too never mentioning the revolt that happened during the they reign. This proves that in the forest and agaist kanem empire (which had guns) Morocco would probably get massacrated and conquer the sahel would be difficult let alone crontol them: they have to face, wolof, mossi, senoufo, Mali empire, hausa-fulani which would probably fought more seriously than shongai hence why would imployemnt all of his forces in they territory to conquer which would have last some years not with securing victory(considering the portugese campaign in current Angola and Zimbabwe) while for the rebels it will be more easy to take back the control of the state causing the situation to be uncontrollable on the long run and retreat. So no I think in the only a strong saehlian empire could take large part of West Africa prior to the 19th century.
@swaziboy9953
@swaziboy9953 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, love from Eswatini!!!
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus 3 жыл бұрын
What's the Internet speed like over there?
@a_creamsy1st228
@a_creamsy1st228 3 жыл бұрын
About time you done some alternate history, just kidding I do like your other content a lot as well.
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