"Egypt has the best combination of slave labor, fertile soil and warm climate" - Whatifalsthist 2021
@pabloarellano54853 жыл бұрын
A yes, another sure to be famous quotes of his, let’s ad it to the list
@abcdef276693 жыл бұрын
Just like the Brazilian Empire (1822-1889).
@rbvfeehfbudenrj3 жыл бұрын
“I want to have sexual relations with greater turkey” - Whatifalthist 2019
@janvancura84123 жыл бұрын
Egyptian dixie
@danielduvernay32073 жыл бұрын
“Borderline slave labor” ik it’s semantics, but come on
@newromanianmappernrm44203 жыл бұрын
Man once I heard "Albanian sultenate" I was really unsure if this was a meme video, but it's actually quite nice and educational!
@kaiserteddie95643 жыл бұрын
albania=funny
@skavanagh27783 жыл бұрын
@@kaiserteddie9564 where's the lie
@bretalvarez30973 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how important the Albanians were in the Ottoman Empire in the 18th and 19th centuries. The Albanians kept the Balkans in check for the Ottomans and when they weren't paid for for doing so after the Orlov revolt the Albanian mercenaries started plundering and ignoring Ottoman commands, which led to the entire region rebelling and by the 1890s the Ottomans had been mostly pushed out of the Balkans.
Woah this guy sounds like Whatifalthis but his upload schedule is consistent
@user-yx3ht7tv1x3 жыл бұрын
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@gerrardjones283 жыл бұрын
@@user-yx3ht7tv1x how!
@user-sg3wp2qs2b3 жыл бұрын
@@user-yx3ht7tv1x ͏
@imretardedbut75723 жыл бұрын
@@user-sg3wp2qs2b wtf how??
@numega73233 жыл бұрын
@@imretardedbut7572 ͏
@marrvynswillames49753 жыл бұрын
1:58 Albanian Sultanate 5:35 Igbo Empire 8:45 Unite States of Africa 11:38 Anglo South Africa
@isaiahfraser29683 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@algerianmapper63443 жыл бұрын
I read albanian sultanate and thought this was a meme lmao
@JustinianG3 жыл бұрын
@@isaiahfraser2968 here's an alternate history video of mine where I talk alot about africa, I think it's very interesting. I even talk a lil about the white south africans and the igbo kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4HXZourbaqVmNk Don't let the title fool you
@isaiahfraser29683 жыл бұрын
@@JustinianG ok I’ll watch it
@domenstrmsek56253 жыл бұрын
@@algerianmapper6344 Last sultans was Albanians one of the kings try to Become Kings of Albania
@nobodyofimprotance76153 жыл бұрын
Yay, a video everyone is too ignorant to argue over.
@deuslaudetur24513 жыл бұрын
I OBJECT
@Salnax3 жыл бұрын
Do not underestimate me. I can argue about anything.
@mr.crowgamer62503 жыл бұрын
?
@torpenhigalak59093 жыл бұрын
Ignorant? To argue? I object the very statement you have for debate and argument is the synthesis of human quality. To ignore that which you see befitting to yourself thrust to your comment is a ridiculous claim ignorance to your own selfish perspective....
@Aodhan27173 жыл бұрын
Since when has ignorance stopped the internet from having an argument?
@IKEMENOsakaman3 жыл бұрын
Although borders (not necessarily just Africa's, but the whole world's) seems and feels quite fixed to many of us, this video really reminds me that nothing is eternal, and "borders" between countries can change anytime with any reason, seen or unforseen.
@Judah1323 жыл бұрын
Portugal : Nope.
@roverrange36743 жыл бұрын
The borders in central Europe were some of the most fought about and confusing in history and mostly "disappeared" in the last decades. Sure they are still there on a map and in reality but going from Germany to any of the neighboring countries you don't really feel that you are crossing a border. Only the signs suddenly look different. That really changed the perspective on borders here.
@kwikstik3 жыл бұрын
If a border can be changed because a farmer moved a border stone for being in his way, then yes, borders are very changeable.
@LoganLS03 жыл бұрын
America has spent the last 70 years ensuring borders don't change. Every time someone goes for it they get smacked.
@bevbevan61893 жыл бұрын
@@LoganLS0 And very soon they are going to stop bothering. What happens next will be very interesting.
@taptiotrevizo94153 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah Africa gets some focus in this channel.
@jasonadjogble13103 жыл бұрын
69 likes heh
@jasonadjogble13103 жыл бұрын
@S E P oh well how the turntables turned
@mint86483 жыл бұрын
he has a discord now
@FizzahEditz3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see some focus on australia
@spcxplrr3 жыл бұрын
"lets make 4 african empires" - the french, british, germans, and portugese in the 1880's
@ikoonn_11423 жыл бұрын
Not funny actually...
@Bluemann0233 жыл бұрын
@@ikoonn_1142 but true
@storrho3 жыл бұрын
@@ikoonn_1142 Too soon?
@michaelsilver2533 жыл бұрын
Woomp woomp
@laptv21443 жыл бұрын
@@ikoonn_1142 nOt fUnnAyyyy
@lucaskurth61923 жыл бұрын
First latin America now Africa, whatifallthist giving the little guys some love
@walidechchafnaje98123 жыл бұрын
XDDD
@JcLazy13 жыл бұрын
💯💪🏾
@napabilirim3 жыл бұрын
... what about the cursed one, Australia
@lucaskurth61923 жыл бұрын
@@napabilirim we don't talk about that one...
@MJ-ki5vc3 жыл бұрын
Africa isn’t little. It big
@Lichcrafter3 жыл бұрын
1/2 of Whatifalthist subscribers: more alt history! 1/2 of Whatifalthist subscribers: more geopolitics! Whatifalthist: Both. Both is good.
@oitubeman10193 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@weatheron12473 жыл бұрын
yes
@carlspringer70243 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind the geopolitics so much if he didn't make such sweeping generalizations tenuously based on broad historical trends in countries and regions which he clearly know nothing about.
@Lichcrafter3 жыл бұрын
@@carlspringer7024 Huh idk I kinda like how he is able to establish broad trends through history. Do you have some examples of where he's wrong?
@oitubeman10193 жыл бұрын
@@Lichcrafter he is just your average whatifalthist hater
@Benim_Turukum3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if a gen z girl found this youtube channel and doesn't know what alternate history is
@mal_31579 ай бұрын
Is that describing you? 😭
@vinfacts113 жыл бұрын
i could imagine Michael Jackson becoming one of the top stars of the Igbo Empire.
@ymj42563 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can imagine The language and music style will be different. And he won't even be named Micheal Jackson
@honeycomblord93843 жыл бұрын
Plus, his birthplace isn't anywhere near Africa. Gary, Indiana is closer to hell than anything else, and no, I'm not talking about Chicago.
@vinfacts113 жыл бұрын
@@honeycomblord9384 imagine his family and bloodline stills stays (despite not coming to America), that he is born in modern time, (where in this world he's in Africa, instead of America)
@lontongstroong3 жыл бұрын
@@ymj4256 His name would be Michael Chukwu
@ymj42563 жыл бұрын
@@lontongstroong but michael is a christian name
@Great_Olaf53 жыл бұрын
Wow, an actual alternate history video. I'm a little skeptical about one part of the South Africa one. I find it unlikely that the British would just aggressively seize the Portuguese colonies in the region, even parts of them. I could see them maybe buying them, or some other peaceful transition, though even that I feel would be unlikely. The British and Portuguese have one of the most stable and long lasting alliances in European history, I don't think the scramble for Africa would be enough to significantly alter that.
@MrMakabar3 жыл бұрын
The Portugese had claimed the coast and only really went for the interior once the technology was ready after the Berlin conference. Also independence. The US did fought the British a few times and they also did just settle Mexican land.
@binkybarns71323 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they would be independent by that time? So they wouldn’t care about the diplomacy of the UK? I don’t know how likely that is
@roverrange36743 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the Europeans somehow coming to an understanding and just merging all or some of their African colonies? Like some kind of federation of african colonies? Even just the southern British, German and Portuguese ones (I just can't even imagine the french being a part of that) would make for such a Juggernaut.
@PedroNadais123 жыл бұрын
"The British and Portuguese have one of the most stable and long lasting alliances in European history" - laughs in Portuguese
@shwackedgaming41863 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean but the British did give the Portuguese and ultimatum in the 1900s to give up north and south Rhodesia to them so I don't see why they wouldn’t do the same for the others
@alguien60733 жыл бұрын
Just looking at the thumbnail, the 1st one reminds me of the bunch of West African countries that negotiate decolonization from France, the 2nd seems to be the British Northeastern part with the Nile etc at its peak, & the 3rd seems to be the British Southern part extending into German Namibia after WW1
@NorthPoleSun3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, for the 3rd map in the thumbnail, I didn't think it was a European colonial empire shown because of the lack of straight borders.
@JMOP17153 жыл бұрын
You know your a fan when you yell, "Yes!" at the middle of work when the notification pops up and it's about Africa.
@Walht3 жыл бұрын
I cried out of joy in the middle of a meeting
@walidechchafnaje98123 жыл бұрын
@@Walht LOL
@oitubeman10193 жыл бұрын
same
@hessen54983 жыл бұрын
@@Walht says the guy that works at mcdonalds
@omargerardolopez32943 жыл бұрын
The southafrican one seems actually very interesting, maybe not good, but it does seem interesting
@yonathanrakau17833 жыл бұрын
I mean real south africa is kinda worse than this with aparteid lol
@dad99793 жыл бұрын
God I wish
@C4Cole053 жыл бұрын
@@yonathanrakau1783 If Australia is any indicator to go by it would probably have quite a bit of ethnic cleansing going on in the background. At least SA would probably have a better power handover than the one from our timeline, since the current SA government is still riding the "We stopped Apartheid!" bandwagon, so if there wasn't as heavy of an Apartheid system politicians wouldn't be able to ride that train all the way to a comfy new office.
@yonathanrakau17833 жыл бұрын
@@C4Cole05 i dont think there will be much black people in this video like irl since most of butuan died with diseases and majority of the blacks in the south probably dutch brought slaves from west africa
@fullmetaltheorist3 жыл бұрын
@@C4Cole05 The we ended "apartheid bandwagon" isn't working anymore. The only reason they made it so far is because people in the past didn't have any good alternatives but now they do. 40% people who could've voted didn't vote in the 2019 elections but now more people are going to vote. So yeah their days are numbered.
@newwaveinfantry83623 жыл бұрын
Gold, underrated channel. Nobody does predictions and geopolitics better on KZbin from what I've seen.
@usedshoe32663 жыл бұрын
Caspian Report is great for geopolitics but he doesn't make predictions.
@gabrielthompson75813 жыл бұрын
@@usedshoe3266 you’re definitely right. Though I like Whatifaltist a lot better because of the reason that he does predictions. Just a swag dude B)
@vexintersect13123 жыл бұрын
Except when it comes to leftism, this dude dont know shit outside of his right wing perspective
@davestylehenry3 жыл бұрын
The new Bismarck
@gabrielthompson75813 жыл бұрын
@@vexintersect1312 yeah you’re right about that
@iscokc12593 жыл бұрын
I imagined this morning in class when I was bored the AWI (African War I) in 2040 between United States of Africa and Egypt vs East African Union and Anglo South Africa and you make a video about each one. Life is good
@pedrohenriqueassis79153 жыл бұрын
2 consecutive videos? We are getting spoiled, good wait until those water wars!
@franciscoaraujo66243 жыл бұрын
Monarquismi é uma merda, tu ta no século errado
@Vitorruy13 жыл бұрын
@@franciscoaraujo6624 Monarquismo num país de terceiro mundo é ainda pior
@leonardoleo57403 жыл бұрын
@@franciscoaraujo6624 Torei
@leonardoleo57403 жыл бұрын
@@Vitorruy1 Torei²
@mariatheresaofaustria58533 жыл бұрын
@@franciscoaraujo6624 cringe
@Hawklaxx3 жыл бұрын
Africa is such an amazing and interesting place. It’s such a shame that it isn’t more widely taught about and that most kids will never know more than the pyramids of Egypt :(
@kingofdragonsgameplay13693 жыл бұрын
History is expansive, which means that the school system has to pick and choose which parts of it should be covered. Of course priority goes to events, nations and topics that have affected their nation the most. This means that, for the majority of the western world, Africa, South America and parts of Asia get left out, as they haven’t had as great an impact on the western world as other parts of the planet. Finally, as these places are not very significant politically in the modern world, they remain largely forgotten, as they rarely come up in news or political discussions.
@rare99313 жыл бұрын
Ikr...
@board-qu9iu3 жыл бұрын
I mean I was taught resently about the west African kindoms though that maybe because I was in a Pre-AP history course
@billydasquid12013 жыл бұрын
@@kingofdragonsgameplay1369 I agree with you but how many times in our twelve years of school did we see a focus on American history and not world history. I had one world history ap and one geography course in my entire k-12 learning career. From Elementary to high school there was a strong focus on American/Western history. Although in math and science I saw a wider variety in education. If you ask me it’s a choice by the state to focus on American history. Hell growing up inTexas I had a Texas history course which felt more like a variation of American history.
@fearlesspotato34293 жыл бұрын
And most think Egypt is in the middle east and not in africa
@themaximum973 жыл бұрын
1,000 views in 5 minutes…what are we calling ourselves, fanbase?
@amydavis9723 жыл бұрын
Nerds, hahaha
@TheViperjs3 жыл бұрын
Overly optimistic pessimist
@foshershmul16483 жыл бұрын
Whatifwehadgirlfreinds
@Vitorruy13 жыл бұрын
@@foshershmul1648 lmao
@willarmentrout3 жыл бұрын
malthusian bois
@roadhouse69993 жыл бұрын
The title sounds like something someone would say after snorting a line of coke.
@thatoneguy65783 жыл бұрын
With so many ethic groups, to cover everything this video would take days, Africa is such a diverse and culturally rich place!
@ryeguy79413 жыл бұрын
@「 Deadpoppin 」 so diversity really isn't a strength.
@MrShadowThief3 жыл бұрын
@@ryeguy7941 Never was.
@ryeguy79413 жыл бұрын
@@MrShadowThief agreed
@alezar20353 жыл бұрын
@「 Deadpoppin 」 then why is India so stable and successful? Their gdp growth rate is incredible
@datoda35933 жыл бұрын
it´s not only that there are too many ethnic groups, but rather the simple fact that majority of african states are still stuck in the tribal phase. You have entire civil wars and genocides due to tribal affiliations all across the continent. If the process of centralization and eventual creation of national identities in Europe went relatively well and organic, in africa´s case it was quite the opposite. Often times due to colonialism previously warring tribes, who had nothing in common would often get put together in artificially created states and have to now live in this new reality. Thefore nowadays There is no "black identity" in mainland africa and the tensions will only continue till the national and eventually continental identities form. Though fortunately things like the spread of christianity help the process, more precisely with the new religion different tribe now have something cultural in common and therefore something to unite under.
@NMCSG3 жыл бұрын
Whatifalthist: “Drawing borders without thought of culture, religion, and geography is always not a good way to start a society” Also Whatifalthist: “Let’s draw some borders in Africa for fun uwu.”
@juliannasreddin52263 жыл бұрын
But he would think much more deeply if he really wanted to divide africa.
@realtalk61953 жыл бұрын
2:00 "people forget that the _Muslims_ were in the process of colonizing Africa in the 19th century before the Europeans did..." Those regions were already Muslim and that happened not in the 1800s but between the 600s to 1300s. The lands the Muhammad Ali Dynasty came to rule were already Muslim. 4:25 Shows westward expansion. Ignores that fact that Chad and northern CAR are already Muslim. Chad had countless Muslim dynasties (Furthermore, eastern Chad and western Sudan are historically linked, while western Chad is linked to northeast Nigeria and northwest Cameroon by way of the Kanem-Borno Empire). It's also unlikely that Sudan/Egypt would expand its empire southward given that it's completely different geographically requiring different warfare tactics. Uganda, northeast DR Congo and Kenya all have Muslim populations, and if southward expansion was an ambition from the north then it would have happened already centuries ago. 5:28 Nope. Central and East Africa already had Muslim kingdoms and they weren't Arabic speaking. Muslim rule doesn't automatically mean Arabic language, especially NOT if there's a pre-Arab Muslim presence. There's specific reasons for how Arabic came to dominate the regions where it has (which I can easily elaborate). 8:09 The previous West African Muslim kingdoms were already separate from North Africa. That's partly why the Songhai didn't have guns and cannons.
@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen3 жыл бұрын
@@2.5chainz *Laughs in Ethopia and Mali.*
@marselo53323 жыл бұрын
@@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen lol
@c.d.alexandernoble43803 жыл бұрын
Diversity is our strength theyll be fine
@awesomemangoes80723 жыл бұрын
Loving these back to back videos
@xydya3 жыл бұрын
Love this new upload schedule, all top quality questions too
@emrysgeibhendach75723 жыл бұрын
when whatifalthist upload twice in one week me me: ah its beautiful
@thomasleewens-horsey83413 жыл бұрын
dude you need to keep posting so many videos its awesome to have so much good content!!
@aceofhearts62022 жыл бұрын
I did this, my 4 African nations were The Western African Republic (NW), Imperial Egypt (NE) The Nigerian Empire (CEN) and The South African Union (S)
@yayadrops41473 жыл бұрын
Im sad Morocco didn't get any love in this video, its the 3rd oldest and had actual potential of becoming a colonial power😕 Great video still🔥
@waliddrissi83703 жыл бұрын
The only north african country this guy probably knows is Egypt
@Turtle54543 жыл бұрын
im glad he focused on sub saharan africa tbh
@JcLazy13 жыл бұрын
Damn you jealous sob. Why can’t the other countries get any love fam ? Everybody knows North Africa.
@yayadrops41473 жыл бұрын
@@JcLazy1 I'm moroccan and hoped to see my country mentioned, i still enjoyed all the others and I have always rooted for african growth and success, im a big fan of ethiopia, nigeria, kenya and rwanda. Those countries have bright futures, and I am not jealous, I just love my country and knowing how important it was at one point, was surprised it didn't get mentioned ^^
@JcLazy13 жыл бұрын
@@yayadrops4147 fault fam. One love ❤️
@KenanAdhari20003 жыл бұрын
Please continue to upload videos so regularly like now!! I love your videos!!!
@life-hardenedschoolstudent22843 жыл бұрын
Damn love this coverage, I'd like to see more Africa getting spotlight, I have a suggestion please do one on what if the Mongols conquered Egypt and continue their campaign in Africa. I mean Mongols horse archer prove themselves to be unchallenged even in the scorching desert area like the Middle East, Central Asia, and Gobi Desert. This makes me wonder can they survive the Sahara?
@hashkangaroo3 жыл бұрын
In a word, no. Not at their population densities. They'd have to largely abandon the horse, the yurt and the massive amounts of sheep/cattle that they herded. They'd basically devolve down to the population level and ferocity of the local bedouins. After all, the Gobi may be a desert but it still has grass and water, and areas right next to it which are more grassy/wet; the Sahara is a giant expanse of sand with a few oases scattered throughout.
@YaBoiDREX3 жыл бұрын
There’s no way they can make it past the Sahara. It’s much larger and emptier than any other desert they have ever faced. If they made it past the Sahara the tsetse fly would kill off there horses, which is why horses could only be used in North Africa, The Sahel, and Ethiopia in precolonial times.
@lif3andthings7633 жыл бұрын
@@YaBoiDREX They could take the bred horses in Africa that can withstand the fly.
@YaBoiDREX3 жыл бұрын
@@lif3andthings763 They wouldn’t even of known the fly existed until it was too late. Even today there is still no cure for the disease the tsetse fly causes.
@abdiabdi32253 жыл бұрын
@@hashkangaroo there is a second less known choice which was to the kind of tried at least according to Marco polo so take with a grain of salt Mogadishu the modern capital of the state of Somalia which was an extremely rich port city and the landscape while not perfect could be altered and the population is more dense way more so and so the chance of them surviving in a pseudo-Mongol-Somali way is an interesting thought considering but are nomadic cultures but the use of the horse in the 2 varied a lot with the Somalis using the camel more but this all forgetting that the Mongol had animals breed for an area were snow is possibility every now and again while Somalia is on the equator
@evzenvarga97073 жыл бұрын
2 videos so close to each other? This is a blessing.
@PrinceJvstin3 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute...your South African empire is basically a more plausible S M Stirling Draka, isn't it?
@danieldelaney13773 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@fullmetaltheorist3 жыл бұрын
Well as a South African I think yeah it is possible.
@_Larzy3 жыл бұрын
Man this content is always-top notch
@DeanMasley3 жыл бұрын
Dude you are pumping out videos like crazy, i love it!!!!
@dokorobia87133 жыл бұрын
I’m Igbo, I want nothing to do with any African empire yet alone Nigeria.
@ikengaspirit30633 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Our people have never had a history of subjugating people and I never want that to be part of our history, even in alternate.
@kennyking9667 Жыл бұрын
True
@Jayjay200153 жыл бұрын
It's funny how he said the igbo empire will take over from the sokoto empire The hate between this empires even reflex in alternate history 🤣🤣🤣
@montyjarvis25223 жыл бұрын
Your videos just put all the puzzle pieces of the books I’ve read together into one coherent theory, keep up the good work
@craftthemoon3 жыл бұрын
Two great videos in three days? Awesome!
@patrickanquetil79373 жыл бұрын
2 videos in the same week? This is a miracle!
@mahmoodali50432 жыл бұрын
I just love that he couldn't bring himself to call it "Egyptian empire" even when he was talking about an imperialistic alternate egypt XD This dude's egypto-allergy is so ridiculously funny XD
@SumoSuperemo2 жыл бұрын
@6:40 He says Egyptian Empire
@jaxerman59653 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I've been waiting for.
@Thorite_Gem3 жыл бұрын
You're cranking out the content. I'm loving it :D
@Full_Egoism3 жыл бұрын
A second Whatifalthist Video this week, he must be crunching to make both of these at the same time.
@andrewlechner63433 жыл бұрын
I think the Latin America one was a project he's been working on for a while. And this video is just him putting a maps together in a day or two.
@kolawaleojomo68173 жыл бұрын
The Igbo empire doesn't work. First off, the Igbo traditionally weren't a united people. In fact, they still aren't. Second if the Igbo rebel against the Sokoto, other kingdoms would rebel too and the most likely result would be a patchwork of free states, some more powerful than others, but no empires. In fact, the only thing the Sokoto Caliphate had going for it was it's use of calvary. I would know since they conquered the plains Yoruba easily enough but started to falter once they reached us forest Yoruba. It seems you're not considering the restrictions terrain had on the actual empires that formed in West Africa. They came at us every time and their horses faltered every time. The ones we didn't kill, the tsetse flies did. ✌🏿
@BasicLib3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, made a similar comment myself. I think not to may people know of how the societies of pre colonial Africa actually operated. If anything, the Yoruba, Edo or Ashanti were in the best position to do what Rudyard wants. ill post my original comment below.
@reggiestockton81663 жыл бұрын
He made a statement about Igbo cultural values being similar to European values. I feel like since Igbo's statistically thrive economically in the West, he thinks that they are most competent to form an empire. I don't know how I feel about that. Kind of put me off to be honest. I'm glad someone is making interesting videos like this. I wish he had known more about Africa though, especially West Africa. It felt like everything was in relation to Europe or Islam. I understand that its hard to discuss what-ifs like this without these comparisons, but this video is a lot different than what I expected.
@kolawaleojomo68173 жыл бұрын
@@reggiestockton8166 Yeah. It almost seems as if he believes that only civilisations that mirror the West are capable of success. What he's not understanding is that the Igbo thrive EVERYWHERE, in fact it's one of the reasons why the civil war happened. I do agree that his content is ❤️, but this man doesn't think Africa is important at all on the world stage, how do you expect him to know twat about us? It's vexing. To be fair, his opinions are his business. I just wish he'd pay a bit more attention to Africa and actually know what he's talking about. Hey Whatifalthist! I hope you see this!😒
@kolawaleojomo68173 жыл бұрын
@@BasicLib exactly my point. It seems if we want accurate stuff on Africa, we'd have to do it ourselves.
@BasicLib3 жыл бұрын
@@kolawaleojomo6817 Here was my original comment: Hey Whatifalthist, Nigerian Here I think your analysis of West Africa is a bit wrong. West Africa above the the Mangrove and Tropical rainforests (i.e the Sahel) has mostly been dominated by herder cultures with strong urban tendencies. One of the most notable things about the Igbo is that they had historically been the most decentralised, non urbanised and semi anarchist society in the region. Igbo society is very much based in the tribal chieftains and local communities with very little sense of a greater igbo identity beyond linguistic until the Colonial era, In fact a lot of Slaves came from the frequent infighting within and between Igbo communities. This led to them having the lowest population of the Big 3 in Nigeria (Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo respectively) In contrast to that the Yoruba and Hausa operated highly urban traditional iron age kingdoms with warrior aristocracies and complex institutions of state power. The Hausa however after becoming muslim and gaining access to european firearms became very expansionist and swallowed many smaller communities. As the Sooto Caliphate, They had 2 major wars with the Yoruba in the 17th Century and almost conquered the Oyo Empire. If any society fits the bill of hat you actually expect to from your West African Superstate, it would be the Yoruba or maybe the Benin (Edo). The Igbo simply did not have the institutions for such. Also the Ashanti of Ghana are a good fit as well Till this day, wester Nigeria has the highest GDP per capita, Literacy rates and Human development indexes in not just the entire country, but All of west Africa. And are the second largest Sub-Saharan Ethnic Group on the planet (Only behind the Hausa). I think you need to look into Nigeria and broadly west Africa more, an alternate history of the region could be very fascinating. Love your work and have been an avid follower for 3 years now.
@arshanhalalkhor70073 жыл бұрын
Man your videos are so good that not only I don’t skip any of it I pause to read the great info graphics. Keep up the good work👍
@Brosowski3 жыл бұрын
I tried this at first a while ago and it said I couldn't watch it...thankfully it works now! Great work dude!
@johanbarnard34352 жыл бұрын
The South African empire nearly did happen. At one point Zambia, Zimbabwe, Botswana and Namibia where under South Africa's government with them running more like "states" in the US than countries. Many still think it should have stayed that way and too much division happened mostly because of the vast amount of different African tribes who all wanted to rule themselves instead of joining together to form one bigger and stronger nation
@MGood-ij1hi3 жыл бұрын
It's ironic that resistance to the diseases common to Europe made Africans suitable for enslavement , and later citizenship in European colonies, but lack of resistance to those diseases by Native Americans eliminated most of their populations facilitating European conquest and colonization of Native American lands. Also, lack of resistance to diseases common to Africa by Europeans prevented Africa from becoming another Australia , Americas, or Canada. So much of history was determined by microbes.
@justinkoross58643 жыл бұрын
Good watch, another great Whatifalthist video.
@maxmustermann95153 жыл бұрын
I really love that high amount of output
@Newbmann3 жыл бұрын
Whos ready for another clipable quote about egypt after it being easy to opress. Edit ah yes best combonation of slave labor fertile soil and warm climate.
@mr.wilmer25883 жыл бұрын
If I had to chose 5 people to bring with me into the apocalypse, Whatifaltist would be my first pick for the purpose of structuring and planning a post apocalypse civilization.
@Ayyydrianne3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the posts I love these videos keep it up
@Theiliteritesbian2 жыл бұрын
That WAS fun!
@jaydencoleman90683 жыл бұрын
Thought this was gonna be a 'how to' video with a practical demonstration but this is cool too.
@hattruck86073 жыл бұрын
I love African History
@David_Box3 жыл бұрын
@Lakshay Gupta of course they do, and one of the most interesting ones at that. It's just that it wasn't preety nice during modern times.
@Car-ms5fk3 жыл бұрын
Back to back daily uploads!
@DaR3b3L2 жыл бұрын
Love this speculative video!
@gologe33283 жыл бұрын
This was so fast!
@donm53543 жыл бұрын
The MY PILLOW guy is on the verge of turning Egypt into a Giza Cotton EMPIRE making bed sheets.
@edward9863 жыл бұрын
I missed these ones so much. Geopolitics is interesting but heavy and long, and this alt history is just entertaining and interesting. He litterally said lets have some fun
@dougnorthcote34203 жыл бұрын
Loved the video per usual. The comment at about 0:41 about the Swedish empire.... love to see one on if Gustavus Adolphus has lived a longer life.
@epicgamerzfail45753 жыл бұрын
Whatifalthist slowly covering all the third world, um, worlds.
@_KOANS3 жыл бұрын
Your audio recording has gotten louder and clearer. That is music to my ears considering the fact that I watch most of your content while at work with one air pod in. I could barely hear you on older videos.
@nathandessalegne39703 жыл бұрын
You're an absolute gem!
@shzarmai3 жыл бұрын
In any case, Great Video and my favourite map in this video is the ''West African Civilization'' Map.
@lerneanlion3 жыл бұрын
I always like the one about Muhammad Ali's dynasty scenario because it is one of the most famous and the most likely situation as well if the Europeans didn't poke their noses into where they don't belong.
@luscien36653 жыл бұрын
Great video... Like always! Can you make a video of *"What if the Middle East and North Africa became Christian?"* U choose the year.
@bobwinters55723 жыл бұрын
They did, and that Christianity was explicitly the state religion of the Eastern Roman Empire. Then Mohammed came up with his version of Protestantism 1000 years before Martin Luther. He wasn't even the only one doing that at the time (or before), he was the most successful empire builder of the bunch. Universalist monotheism has been producing charismatic preachers who've produced updated versions ever since it began. Fewer are produced in good times when strong political hierarchies keep their opponents down and more when those hierarchies break down and rebellion and civil war break out.
@bard0013 жыл бұрын
@@bobwinters5572 u clearly dont know what are you talking about
@abdiabdi32253 жыл бұрын
@North Sea Pirate almost Muslims have a very different view on Jesus existence than Christians so maybe what Druze Yazidis or Alawites are to Islam would be a slightly better description each of these broke away in some way and become their own thing from Islam.
@bobwinters55723 жыл бұрын
@@abdiabdi3225 There were early Christians who also did not view Christ as divine such as the Ebionites (300s). The Arians (named for Arius of Alexandria, 300s) also denied the Trinity. Early Christianity was very amorphous and adapted to local conditions, even amongst the Arabs. It was Constantine (Roman emperor) who established the notion of a definitive Church hierarchy and ruleset (the Council of Nicaea), which he based on his own system of ruling the Late Empire. That notion of a definitive hierarchy linked to the Roman Empire didn't fit well outside that Empire. The Church of Rome, which post-Empire adapted to appeal to the Germanic conquerors of the Western Empire, would eventually also clash with, and be heretical to, the Orthodox Imperial Church. By pointing to various Islamic sects, I'd add the Almohads and Wahhabis in your list, you just reinforce my original point about the recurring impact of charismatic preachers, empire building and otherwise, who've adopted and adapted the notion of a universalist monotheism to their particular conditions. My guess is that the OP was really talking about a middle east that adopted the teachings of the Church of Rome. Somehow I don't think the cultural viewpoints of Germanic tribes has ever fit very well in the Mideast. The French tried to introduce the Church of Rome to Christians in Lebanon during the Mandate period through their schools and the locals just stuck with their own local versions of Christianity. Constantine's Orthodoxy didn't fit very well in Roman Egypt either, which is partly why that region was so easy to conquer for Mohammed's followers.
@jakebolger62483 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid
@badmoth242xl33 жыл бұрын
Whatifalthist is on roll with this one
@jnlarge72443 жыл бұрын
Totally read that title as age of empires 4
@bajlozi68733 жыл бұрын
Albo-Egyptian empire for the win 😁
@someguysomeone35433 жыл бұрын
While some Albanian fighters did move to Egypt with Muhammad, their numbers wouldn't have been great enough to influence culture.
@gameoflife95763 жыл бұрын
This gotta be the weirdest moment in albanian history but hey,conquering Egypt is always cool! Gjithashtu,çkemi bashkatdhetarë!
@manetho51343 жыл бұрын
@@gameoflife9576 @Kastravec Shushtavec There isn't any Albanian influence on Egyptian culture at all, ask any random Egyptian in street about what albania is and he will either mishear it Germany( because Germany is called "Almanyia" in Egypt so they have similar sounding names) or they will think you are saying something about natural Cow Milk ( plural of Milk in arabic is "Alban") and believe me I'm telling you this from personal experience, Egyptian don't know what the hell albania is lol imagine believing fucking useless Albania conquered Egypt while it was just a worthless province in the ottoman Empire, Albanians soldiers at Muhammed Ali's time were called in Arabic Arna'uut or Arna'uud( turkish was Arnavut or Arnaut) and to this day some few Egyptians have Arna'uut as there family name(and if you ask them they still won't know what albania is😂😂), that's the only albanian influence on Modern Egypt, even mohammed Ali got rid them and replaced them by native Egyptian soldiers to build Egypt's modern Army
@bajlozi68733 жыл бұрын
@@manetho5134 we know man
@bajlozi68733 жыл бұрын
@@gameoflife9576 Pershendetje :)
@bigmanshams98003 жыл бұрын
yes, yes, yes! 2 vids in one week!
@halo3soap1143 жыл бұрын
2 whatifalthist vidoes in a couple days wow!
@malachyquested76533 жыл бұрын
I read the title and assumed this was a shark tank style pitch to make 4 African empires
@scottishbananaclan3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@squiddybingus55903 жыл бұрын
I think it would be cool to see an alternate history where the dutch or swedish get to the northeast before the brittish and do something with it
@VitoTorpedo.3 жыл бұрын
please more videos like this
@shzarmai3 жыл бұрын
Finally Whatifalthist talks about Africa, though I hope he talks about Central Asia and Southeast Asia in future videos though.........
@sovereignwill60203 жыл бұрын
Fuck yea, Africa getting some love
@charlesnegash3 жыл бұрын
People always forget about the Glorious victories of Amda Seyon, zara yacob , Dawit II & Yeshaq & Caleb of Aksum.
@aradat96712 жыл бұрын
Ik bro 😔Amda seyon and Caleb are Warriors my fav
@bow25723 жыл бұрын
loving the new mic
@MountainDewbies3 жыл бұрын
Keep em coming, your content is so amazing!! Thanks for all the hard work, it’s genuinely appreciated (:
@panzerfury65793 жыл бұрын
The fact that EU4 doesn't advertise on your channel is a gross oversight, half the things you discuss give me ideas for games.
@JustinianG3 жыл бұрын
I think my timelines would give u ideas for games
@Maximooch3 жыл бұрын
I forgot this was an alternate history channel
@toobeast6733 жыл бұрын
I clicked so fast thinking I would get to see Ethiopian Empire v3. You broke my heart less than a minute into the vid 😔
@TheArctofireHD3 жыл бұрын
Two videos in a week! We're spoiled!
@inferno_slayer3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how far a somewhat or completely independent Anglo population could conquer if given South Africa
@MrDanChandler3 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember the short-lived Central African Empire? RIP
@tauempire17933 жыл бұрын
I man I know a few central to southern African Empire's lmao
@MrDanChandler3 жыл бұрын
@@tauempire1793 It's the Central African Republic, but with a dictator with a particularly big ego. Studied Napoleon's coronation ceremony and copied it. Was also a cannibal. Multiple wives too -- they had a village by his mansion.
@marcusholbert25253 жыл бұрын
I love this video so much right now. 🌍 Missed a great opportunity to call Mansa Musa a Tyrone.
@danielduke73103 жыл бұрын
I love this content and I would like to read more. Is there anywhere you cite your sources?
@JustinianG3 жыл бұрын
I made a vid where I made some great powers out of some african countries logically. I even spoke a bit about the igbo kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4HXZourbaqVmNk don't let the title fool you.
@psylow93353 жыл бұрын
Two videos on 2 days! Is it my birthday?
@AntonioBrandao3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video about slavery around the world throughout history, from at least 3500BC!
@tomasbos63093 жыл бұрын
Omg another upload
@JcLazy13 жыл бұрын
Let’s go !!! 💯💪🏾
@gyrotor17833 жыл бұрын
That last one sounds uncannily close to the Draka
@mshaqed25383 жыл бұрын
Okay, where's Morocco's empire? They Expanded into West Africa using guns in the 16th century and caused so much chaos that had they won against Mali Morocco would have probably developed a colonial empire in the region. I'm not really complaining, I absolutely love the fact you finally posted a good althis video on Africa, but like, just consider this idea, please. Also, what about a more successful Mutapa or Rozvi empire? The kingdom of Mutapa was able to defend itself against several Portuguese invasions, and had they learned how to build guns, I can clearly see them beating up the weak Portuguese positions in Mozambique and reaching the sea, which could allow them to sell their massive quantities of gold worldwide and maybe even develop a navy and dominate the east African trade lanes to Arabia. The Rozvi are another contender, as they inherited the Mutapa after the kingdom fell into a civil war, pushed the Portuguese back, again, and created a decentralized but heavily militaristic society that lasted until the second half of the 19th century, when their weakened state finally broke after several European invasions and attacks from neighboring kingdoms. Had they been able to get guns and push back the invaders, they could've probably expanded in all directions and maybe even stop the British attempts at colonizing the area, perhaps by gaining another great power as an anti-British ally and playing a similar game to Ethiopia. Again, just think about it.
@Drgguv3 жыл бұрын
Not really Morocco, the problem is that they didn't not have enough material you see, after they conquer a weakened shongai by civil wars which didn't fought seriously at all, they lost agaist the dendi kingdom where they have to fight in a swamp and if it wasn't for reinforcemtn they would have lost to Mali too never mentioning the revolt that happened during the they reign. This proves that in the forest and agaist kanem empire (which had guns) Morocco would probably get massacrated and conquer the sahel would be difficult let alone crontol them: they have to face, wolof, mossi, senoufo, Mali empire, hausa-fulani which would probably fought more seriously than shongai hence why would imployemnt all of his forces in they territory to conquer which would have last some years not with securing victory(considering the portugese campaign in current Angola and Zimbabwe) while for the rebels it will be more easy to take back the control of the state causing the situation to be uncontrollable on the long run and retreat. So no I think in the only a strong saehlian empire could take large part of West Africa prior to the 19th century.
@swaziboy99533 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, love from Eswatini!!!
@CantusTropus3 жыл бұрын
What's the Internet speed like over there?
@a_creamsy1st2283 жыл бұрын
About time you done some alternate history, just kidding I do like your other content a lot as well.