Let's prove a simple "prime number theorem".

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Michael Penn

Michael Penn

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@16sumo41
@16sumo41 Жыл бұрын
would love it if mathmajor made like a course on analytic number theory!
@soyoltoi
@soyoltoi Жыл бұрын
Many of the techniques have overlap with analysis of algorithms (analytic combinatorics)
@Alan-zf2tt
@Alan-zf2tt Жыл бұрын
Michael brings an enthusiasm for math that is rare to find - and it seems infection over the internet. And that can not be too bad at all, at all 🙂
@goodplacetostop2973
@goodplacetostop2973 Жыл бұрын
6:12 6:41 🤧 17:15 Good Place To Stop
@Maths_3.1415
@Maths_3.1415 Жыл бұрын
6:12 6:41 Good place to sneeze
@matematicacommarcospaulo
@matematicacommarcospaulo Жыл бұрын
Good place to change the chalk for the whiteboar markers.... Nobody knows how much I had theses issues during the recording for my channel 😂
@matematicacommarcospaulo
@matematicacommarcospaulo Жыл бұрын
8:37 I've been missing your magical knocks on the board
@maraceoofceos1243
@maraceoofceos1243 Жыл бұрын
another really great vid, Michael. love your content
@Uranyus36
@Uranyus36 Жыл бұрын
for the last step in the strong induction proof, if we have a strict inequality sign during the deduction, isn't it that we must use the strict inequality in the result? that means in the end P_{k + 2} < F_{k + 1} but not P_{k + 2}
@TheEternalVortex42
@TheEternalVortex42 Жыл бұрын
There is the "elementary" Selberg/Erdős proof of PNT which you could perhaps fit into a single (long) video.
@schweinmachtbree1013
@schweinmachtbree1013 Жыл бұрын
here "elementary" refers to not using complex analytic methods - the Selberg-Erdős proof is still by no means elementary in the usual sense of the word.
@hybmnzz2658
@hybmnzz2658 Жыл бұрын
​@@schweinmachtbree1013kind of annoying there is no common word used outside math for "simple techniques but long train of thought".
@ChuffingNorah
@ChuffingNorah Жыл бұрын
And that's a good place to stop sneezing!
@ВалерийГайнанов-и5г
@ВалерийГайнанов-и5г Жыл бұрын
I like the way you’re trying to make the content a little faster to consume, but I think text must be on the screen longer, at least it should stay until Michael finishes talking about it, otherwise (for me at least) you have to pause to read the text and than listen to the explanation
@kkanden
@kkanden Жыл бұрын
bless you
@anggalol
@anggalol Жыл бұрын
There is more simpler prime number theorem: π(n) ≥ 0 for all natural number n.
@euleri0
@euleri0 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, ahem you are okay.
@JohnDalbec
@JohnDalbec Жыл бұрын
Any similar result where F_n are Fibonacci numbers?
@tolkienfan1972
@tolkienfan1972 Жыл бұрын
You said "Li of x over phi of x", instead of "phi of a", which was on the screen
@eauna0029
@eauna0029 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes he definitely was reading it from the screen when it appeared floating in front of him, sad that he missed that
@gp-ht7ug
@gp-ht7ug Жыл бұрын
Please more videos on analytic number theory and the Riemann Zeta function Thanks
@pierreabbat6157
@pierreabbat6157 Жыл бұрын
I thought at first you were going to talk about Fibonacci numbers.
@Anonymous-zp4hb
@Anonymous-zp4hb Жыл бұрын
Notice that Bertrand's postulate implies Lemma#1? I get it though. You wanted the 'easiest' prime number theorem. So you aren't going to assume something like that.
@Milan_Openfeint
@Milan_Openfeint Жыл бұрын
I wonder how hard is it to prove p_{n+1} < 2*p_n . From there, showing the main result should be easy.
@eauna0029
@eauna0029 Жыл бұрын
I mean it's well-known that there is a prime between n and 2n for every n (iirc, but i'm pretty sure) but i believe the proof is not the simplest there is
@yenhai2457
@yenhai2457 Жыл бұрын
the fact that p(n)
@ikarienator
@ikarienator Жыл бұрын
Now I'm genuinely concerned
@seanbastian4614
@seanbastian4614 Жыл бұрын
After watching the video, my only question is for what n is p_n+1==F_n?
@angel-ig
@angel-ig Жыл бұрын
Never. You can check that the inductive proof works if you replace >= with >
@seanbastian4614
@seanbastian4614 Жыл бұрын
@@angel-ig Then why didn't he just put >? It would've made for a stronger argument.
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 Жыл бұрын
@ sean bastian- The subscript is n + 1, so in writing it in this horizontal form, it goes inside grouping symbols. The question could look like the next sentence. "For what n, if any, does p_(n + 1) = F_n?"
@seanbastian4614
@seanbastian4614 Жыл бұрын
@@robertveith6383 i know the subscript is n+1
@angel-ig
@angel-ig Жыл бұрын
@@seanbastian4614 Yeah, that was what I was wondering... At least he put > in the thumbnail
@georgesanxionnat5054
@georgesanxionnat5054 Жыл бұрын
What does a proof use to go the Orem ? A lemmasine !!
@marc-andredesrosiers523
@marc-andredesrosiers523 Жыл бұрын
please use more constructive proof where they exist proof by contradiction are 'always' suspicious, because it needs to assume that the rest of the assumptions are true The consistency of mathematics as large bodies of propositions is ... an interesting problem.
@TheEternalVortex42
@TheEternalVortex42 Жыл бұрын
Michael actually used a "proof by negation" in this video which is perfectly valid in constructive math. (Non-constructivists call both "proof by negation" and "proof by contradiction" the same thing but they are actually distinct). Basically to prove ¬P you show P → False (this is often the most straightforward way to prove ¬P). In fact the whole proof in the video is extremely constructive. It actually gives a method to construct the n+1 prime numbers less than π(F_n).
@pyropulseIXXI
@pyropulseIXXI Жыл бұрын
I take it you are an intuitionist? Which is quite odd, as intuition tells me that a proof by contradiction is just as valid as a fully constructed proof. Also, this was a constructed proof A proof by contradiction is: To prove P, show that ~P is false A proof by negation: To prove ~P, show that P is false In classical logic, P and ~~P are the same, so proof by contradiction and proof by negation are the same. But in logics where P and ~~P cannot be freely interchanged, the two are not the same
@pyropulseIXXI
@pyropulseIXXI Жыл бұрын
@@TheEternalVortex42 Just like the proof that shows the sqrt(2) is irrational is a proof by negation and is perfectly valid in constructivist mathematics
a delightfully symmetric number theory problem.
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