Let's Supreme Ghost Thief - Rowena's Curse

[@klatre]

Ghost Challenge at 4:39:09 0:00 - Intro 6:20 - Barracks 26:20 - Southwest grounds (Baker's, mess hall) 35:26 - Kitchen! 1:06:40 - Entering main mansion (maid, cook, basement) 1:13:00 - Ground floor 1:28:00 - First floor 1:55:12 - To chapel 2:03:19 - To red room 2:27:05 - North gardens 2:57:27 - Underground & Rowena's room 3:03:06 - To library 3:19:35 - Getting explosives 3:42:20 - Dungeon (nudging time!) 4:33:50 - Elemental caves 4:56:18 - Crypts 5:04:40 - Slaying Duncan 5:22:40 - Slaying Cedric 5:33:10 - Hell 6:03:38 - Returning with Isabella 6:22:28 - Ending

[@mcmike89]

Thief 2 The Metal Age is turning 25 years old later this year, I wonder what other fan mission surprises the Thief community could be in store for in the coming months?!?!😃🙌

[@adamlslap8040]

This is such a classic. I remember first getting into Thief FM's, and asking around forums for good missions to start with. Someone recommended Lady Rowena's work. I knew she had a reputation in the community, but I never expected this mission to set the bar for what an FM can be in the way it did for me. It's no exaggeration to say that Lady Rowena's work was and still is the reason I play FM's to this day. An absolute pillar of the Thief community, and a titan of storytelling and level design in her own right. Thanks for circulating the tapes, Klatremus.

[@klatre]

That's awesome, Adam! I wasn't introduced to Rowena's work until Seven Sisters in 2008, but I do agree she set the bar very high.

[@legion7518]

Hey Klatremus I came across your channel a few days ago looking for a ghost playthrough of thief 2 and now I'm hooked and slowly working though your thief 1, 2 and black parade vids. Keep up the good work 👍

[@MichaelS-ui1bl]

Wonderful run, thank you again. And I am old enough to say I bought the original thief games for PC waaay back in the day, including the Thief Gold 'pyramid' box set... WOW I am old! ;)~ Anyway, it was a great watch, already looking forward to the next one. Be safe out there, best wishes from SV AZ.

[@AndyCandyZeroSugar]

I've been looking forward to this! As I remember the starting area is really crowded, with spiders too, so I'm curious how you'll slip past.

[@Saruman38]

3:21:55 Wait? Does that mean you could theoretically complete The Haunted Cathedral in Thief Gold without using a fire arrow and alerting that spider, thus allowing you to successfully ghost the mission, IF flares were actually available in that game? If so, it's really a shame they were only introduced in Thief 2! In any case, knowing that flares and fire arrows have the same properties is a very interesting find. I had never heard about it. How long has this been known? On a side note, you forgot to close the secret after reloading at 2:24:55. On a side side note, you DID get a first alert going down to the dungeon at 3:41:55.

[@klatre]

Yep we realized in chat I forgot to close the secret in the basement, and also that I did get the alert when closing the door down towards the dungeon. I had just remembered that wrong when summing up the mission at the end. As for the flares, it has been known for a few years. It made me able to avoid a serious bust in Ruins of Originia 2 for example, which is why I made a part 2 to that mission. That was in 2021, so almost 4 years. Flares got introduced in Thief 2 yes, so the Haunted Cathedral remains unghostable.

[@the-northern-light]

Amazingly designed fm

[@Nortic111]

Always good seeing more of your work!

[@uv262]

Finally got to see the rest last night, awesome work, man, this was brutal. Kudos for sticking with it... convoluted paths at the edge of impossible, nudging, mass alerts, not to mention kills and fights - I can think on very few missions with such degree of 'mess' (from ghosting perspective). I would personally count KO-ing Isabella as bust, there is nothing stating explicitely in the objective to do so. It says 'take her out', and there are ways (Running Interference, Saints and Thieves) to take/lead people out without coercion, provided that the mission are scripted like this. This one is not, but still, I would be careful with applying exemptions - the rule should be interpreted based solely on how the objective is formulated, otherwise it becomes a mess. 'Kidnap Cavador' does not apply here, since the word 'kidnap' involves coercion, whereas the expression 'take out' doesn't...

[@gustavodemicheli5152]

Thanks for run, enjoyable as always! I wonder how do you manage to find the time and stream for more than 6 hours straight, but much appreciated

[@klatre]

I wish I had 6 hours straight too! This is made up of 5-6 segments of around 1 hour each, spliced together. Although it was a Premiere, it was prerecorded.

[@eisregenhaha]

Nice

[@user-gc4xg9fp2f]

Do we know how Rowena passed? At least her legacy gets to live on