Let’s talk about AliExpress watch brands

[@Foxis1080]

A true watch collector. I get so bored of these KZbinrs opening up watch boxes full of the same Rolex’s and APs

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

When I retire I may get myself a high end watch, but it would never be to expensive since I’m to cheap 😂

[@Fahrenheit1407]

I have a couple San Martins and a couple seikos and the SMs blow seiko out the water in terms of value. Much better bracelets and all with sapphire glass

[@lammyjammer6670]

Was about to say this. He shouldn't be talking about their value until he actually inspects one himself. Seiko 5's are good but they're not as good as most SM models even spec for spec. They're also not the best out there in their own price point especially if they have a bezel on them. All my Seiko 5's are Sports as they're harder for Seiko QC to f them up 🤣

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I just can't bring myself to spend that much on a aliexpress watch.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@lammyjammer6670 I have guys I follow here on youtube that love san martin watches, I just feel they are rather pricey for aliexpress.

[@lammyjammer6670]

@@bluecollarwatches7048 They have sub $200 models that are worth a look and during sales season you can get a bunch more below that mark as well. In particular the one I go to a lot is their Ranger homage with applied indices. The watch is pure class. I really wish they made it in black enamel and silver accents. The current black enamel version is in gilt. WatchDives makes a meca quartz version of it below $100 too.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@melissasmess2773 I broke down and ordered one that was on a super deal’s special, if it gets here, I just got a notice that it didn’t go through customs.

[@TheMadelineClark]

Please explain what the quality issues you have with these watches are. Otherwise is just sounds like you don't like them.

[@unclekevin5094]

I noticed that the Paulareis that you praised so highly stopped working while you were talking about it.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I never did wind it, none of them I did. Don’t get it wrong it’s a cheap watch but I like the looks of it.

[@Clarioner1]

I think Pagani, Cadisen, and Benyar are all the same company, just different in price levels?

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I know pagani and Benyar are for sure, maybe cadisen, I’m a fan of cadisen I’ve never gotten a bad watch from them.

[@7884golfguru]

I’m a new to buying watches I’m 72 ,awesome video,had a few back in the day

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@7884golfguru with the AliExpress watches you can get quite a collection even if you only buy a few a year, just check the ratings on the store.

[@Privaterank2.]

Whats the blue one with the picture called

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Kanagawa wave watch, there’s quite a few watch makers that make that dial.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

It’s a Japanese print the they put in a dial, it’s fishermen in a storm.

[@agilewolf]

San Martin, Seestern, Heimdallr, Cadisen, Thorn, Tandori, Tactical Frog and Rimalti are names I would never have imagined wearing or replacing my more expensive ones (Seiko, Mido, Damasko, Sinn, ....These AliX ones were all cheap enough to not care if they get marks and now I love them because they actually have great looks and quality ....seldom any problems that I can't fix myself and I wear them more. It's weird having nice looking beaters! I love my Thorn MM200. Phylida and Corgeut makes some good AT homages for the price as well.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@agilewolf I’ve fallen off collecting, I have so many watches it’s not a joke.

[@spasev]

Comparing seiko and San Martin is like comparing the workmanship of pagani design to Tudor. San Martin is on another level, even Tudor can learn something about finishing from SM. I sold all my seikos after purchasing my first San Martin. That’s how good they are and the price is a bargain for what you are getting. It looks to me like the Chinese will do to the Swiss watch industry what seiko did to it when they came up with the quartz movement.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I found a deal on a San Martin for $160 on a super deal on AliExpress, so I’ll be checking one out shortly.

[@Mapalves27]

agree with everything,and did the same.  

[@andyvankerkhove6902]

love Pagani and Addies... have 25 of them and never had a problem.... tandorio is also good... right now I am buying the AAA brand watches from Ali.... for 40 to 50 usd you can have any model and brand... and they are great... have around 25 AAA brand watches now... incredible collection.... for the price of 1 seiko from Spain

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I'll have to look that brand up.

[@alessandrozuffi5068]

Parnis makes great stuff too, it goes a bit under the radar but I've got a pilot watch with a swiss clone big hand-wound movement and I just can't help but look at it every time I wear it, Steeldive of course is a no brainer, they flooded the market of 1970s and got amazing reviews all across the board for a reason. I have many Seiko, Citizen, etc but I've got to hand it down to these chinese brands, they have great quality and are very affordable, granted they don't spend that much in research and development

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Yes they mostly copy what is on the market, I don’t have a parnis I’ll have to look at them.

[@PINKFL0YD-s2h]

There are so many preowned on ebay. I got a SanMartin water ghost v3 with a PT5000 for £120! I only buy from there now as people rush into collecting and sell them off...thank you for your reviews!

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I have'nt bought ebay in years, but yes thats an option.

[@AFCUK67]

I've bought 3 pagani watches and they have all been amazing. Also have Addiesdive which are great watches also. Even a foxbox tuna which was cheap but happy with.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Yes, most AliExpress watches are decent, a few duds but I’ve had good luck for the most part.

[@brunocordellier2586]

Interesting video 👍 What about Baltany, Phylida, Sea-Gull and Sugess ?

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Theres always time to get more ! I like the Phylida watches. I've kinda slowed down on buying lately.

[@jorgeolguingarcia]

I enjoyed your video, but there's one big problem, somehow there is no audio. I checked with other YT videos and it seems my audio problem is only with this video you uploaded. I've watched your other videos and no problem. In this instance I had to watch the video with the "CC" turned on.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

When they first upload sometimes there’s an issue with them, but I check it. Thanks! 👍

[@jorgeolguingarcia]

@@bluecollarwatches7048 I have to ask, your Addiesdive pilot blue dial looks amazing. Has it been a good watch overall? Would you buy it again in blue or would you go for other color (black or green)? I'm thinking of gifting myself one for my birthday

[@brucecoleman7412]

I have a San Martin and the quality definitely superior. I got an Addie’s Dive with a bad NH-35 movement. They sent me a prepaid shipping label to return it and I got a refund in less then 10 days. I bought the same watch again but had to pay about $3 more because the sale was over. I have several Paganis, Steel Dives, and Cadisens, all with no issues.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I was so unhappy with my san martin I'll never buy another, they said they would make it right in my aliexpress review on their site it was all smoke and mirrors.

[@rappers5719]

You seem to go all out for automatics. I prefer quartz/solar. If nothing else, it's the accuracy.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I really prefer automatics, I have a lot of solar watches to which are mostly citizen/seiko/casio/timex. Have yet to try a solar from AliExpress, just afraid they will send a quartz watch saying it’s a solar. 😂

[@LouisWinthorpe622]

I still have a few Ali specials. I like my Speedmaster and Daytona homage chronos with the Seiko mechaquartz movements in them. There's usually been problems in my experience with Ali specials, though. I have mixed feelings about them. I had a Steeldive Oris 65 Diver homage that I managed to really like, even though the stem was a bit short and you had to really press the crown in hard and fast, to engage the movement after setting it. The blue a.r. coated domed crystal and everything else was great about it, though. Some of the older homage watch makers like Corgeut and Bliger, I would say, don't even go there. Unless you want to learn how to do repairs and fix your own watches. I have a Bliger Seamaster homage I had to pull the bezel insert out of and reposition it. I also had to source, but and fit a new crown and stem to it, after the crown pulled off when I pulled it out. I was proud of myself for learning how to size and fit a new stem, though. I'm out of the watch game, for the moment, though. Practicing abstinence for the moment and currently holding a collection of about 18 with a few G-Shocks, Ali-Ex's, Seiko and 3 Swiss (the Ball with tritium is super accurate and especially nice).

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I’ve always kinda kept my expectations a little lower with AliExpress watches but a few brands have surprised me, for the most part these sub $100 watches are decent enough and I mostly wear them to work and reserve my better watches to wear outside on work.

[@paullunkes8383]

Many thanks for a great review of AE….I have bought about two dozen watches from them, and my experience matches the comments in this video. To me, under $50 May be risky, and over &100 May be too much. Keep up the great work and thanks again!

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Thanks for the support !

[@paullunkes8383]

Thanks for the review of Paulares…I got a few of these for around $30 and I am very happy with the bang for the buck…thanks for the review!

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@paullunkes8383 they are cheaper with a Chinese home brand movement, and mine are not daily wear as I rotate through my collection but they do get wrist time. I’ve had no issues with mine, I’m not hung up on a brand name I buy what I like and wear them all.

[@JT-32]

id like to know how long you have had the watches with Chinese movements, the biggest issue with them is reliability, its a hot or miss and id like to know your experience with them.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

They are not daily wear watches, I rotate through my collection. Maybe two years.

[@walkaroundwatches]

LOVE the great wave! Nice collection! 😊

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

That watch is a lume monster !

[@alanwalker3915]

Nice video dude, here are my thoughts/experience: My experience is similar to yours: Addiesdive - Yes, good watches, great price and great quality. I have a couple of these. SteelDive - Yes, I have three of these, they are great quality, good prices and amazing lume Tandorio - Yes, I have a couple of these, again great quality, super pricing and brilliant lume. Pagani Design - I have 5 of these, two of them arrived with the second hand fallen off, quality issues, I try not to look at these. Heimdallr - Yes, I only have one, it was expensive in comparisson, but the quality is nice and it has the best lume on any of my watches (except the Tritium)

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I've had no luck with Pagani design except for one.

[@fossilimprint2954]

Glad to have found your channel. Subscribed !

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Welcome !

[@TheJoeMoneyShow]

Can you change the battery easy on these?

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

They are automatics.

[@idealmethod]

What was the name of the first one?

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

AddiesDive.

[@TheAngryPotato]

I have a Pagani dress watch and it's awesome. Well worth the price.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Most of them I like.

[@thegorn]

I would take San Martin over a lowly Seiko 5 every day of the week! Unless you are in love with seeing "Seiko" on the dial, it's not even a contest. Complete no-brainer. I love San Martin and have yet to get problematic quality issues after buying 6 of them. My only issue (which was fixable) was that one had some hairs caught in the caseback that had been tucked underneath the end links!! I saw them when taking off the bracelet to put a strap in its place. I opened the caseback and removed the black hairs (about half a dozen), and all has been good. Very strange but yeah thankfully a one-off. I have had good experiences with Seestern (Doxa homage), Steeldive (SD1970 and SD1953), Boderry and Baltany. I won't touch Pagani Design though. There's just something soulless and nasty about that brand that I just don't want to be associated with.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Glad you have had good luck with them, I recently purchased my first one and it has qc issues.

[@thegorn]

@@bluecollarwatches7048 is there a review on the way? Would like to know what qc issues you ran into and what model.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@thegorn it’s already up.

[@ianrusso8790]

san matin is soo good, I think that they will start costing more brcause they are on par with quality with the swiss ones,

[@agilewolf]

agree with you on Pagani....I'd say their souless because they must be evil to make their bracelets feel like torture devices

[@Wasted1249]

I only like these smaller watch brands when they do originals and not knock offs. I like originals due to originality and a new look. Which addesive dive has some and Pagani has some as well

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@Wasted1249 still can't beat these for the money

[@cawschwarzraben359]

You're missing a Corgeut. I bought a PaulaReis that looked remarkable -- but it would run only for 4-8 hours and the autowind was dead.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I've yet to get one of those !

[@MichaelAChang]

Just bought a North Edge Gavia and couldn't be happier.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I’ve seen them but don’t own one.

[@mazenchaouch]

good colletion man tottaly inspiring watches

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@mazenchaouch thanks

[@timeandnourishment1961]

I like most of your collection. Got a few AliExpress pieces myself. The best ones I have are the Tactical Frog with a solar chronograph and a Steeldive SD 1970 with a PT 5000 movement. Thanks for this. Cheers 🍻!

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

are the solar aliexpress watches any good ?

[@thegorn]

I think solar chronos are the way to go for sure, when it comes to chronos. I like mecha-quartz chronos, and solar means not having to replace the battery and not feeling guilty about running the chrono which probably drains the battery quicker.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@thegorn I want to try a solar watch from AliExpress.

[@yoyex2009]

Tactical frog with solar chrono?

[@ianrusso8790]

me too, seiko...against san martin aahahahahahah seiko sux compared

[@abood0709]

did the Paulares just die on us while he was holding it

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I did'nt wind it up

[@crossbones8956]

Still haven’t pulled the trigger on any AliExpress watches yet, but there are so many good looking pieces there. I’d like to find one that isn’t a homage.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

They are mostly homage, just keep looking you’ll find one you like.

[@tranvuong5921]

SN025G San Martin original design, I has one and love it

[@crossbones8956]

@@tranvuong5921 huh, I’m not able to find that one. Either way, I’ll keep looking at these AliExpress watches until I find a good original model.

[@thegorn]

I really like the SN0131-G original design. "Original" depending on how you define the term. It combines stylings of an Aquanaut with that of a Wolbrook Skindiver, mixed together with some other subtle changes. It's original enough in my view. The end result is something I really like.

[@aquila_d_oro]

the pagani moonswatch is great but is quartz. Maybe is the only pagani worth

[@vincentvangogh4174]

Even 500$ Seikos are not on the same level as 200$ San Martin, at least from what I see on internet and my own few experiences. I have had 4 Seikos, 1 Orient, 1 Heimdallr and 1 San Martin. For the specs/quality for money, I don't think I will buy any more Seikos in future. Just stop buying that 40$ garbage, you know they have to compromise on something. San Martin just released 4th version of their best models, improving minor details from customer feedback. Cutting down from that 200 will mean skipping QC, regulating, AR etc.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Seiko certainly feels they have an advantage with name recognition, and they actually do. I don’t buy my watches to resell them, but the reality is if you needed quick cash a pawn shop would buy the seikos and most likely pass on the San Martin. You would only get a fraction of the real value though, I went into a local pawn shop recently and what they had they wanted full retail on the watches they had in the display case so I passed.

[@hircine92h]

Addiesdive $50 AD2030. doesn't compromise on anything.

[@GunGuy258]

My steeldives are better than my Seikos in the $400.00 range. Although my Seiko solor perpetual is the exception.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I absolutely agree on the sapphire, i have about 12 seikos and only one has sapphire.

[@tutorube]

Nice review! Heimdallr SKX007 and Seestern Monster SE are match better than Seiko prototypes. Sugess/Seestern does great watches at all. Tandorio small 38mm diver watch is really good also, as an Seiko 7002 / SKX 013 alternative, but you should use custom dial with second marks printed on it since that case doesn't allow chapter ring installation.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I really like my Seestern, it’s an excellent watch and absolutely a value even when they sell for $140.

[@Johnmk24]

I’ve have a high end San Martin bands dropping a pin. Issue with clasp as well. The best Chinese watch I’ve experienced is the Thorn BB-58 knockoff. It has had no issues, it replicates Tudor perfectly.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I had some issues with my thorn, the bezel is misaligned.

[@Johnmk24]

@@bluecollarwatches7048 I guess it’s hit or miss with Chinese quality control

[@dirkvoorhees5878]

I am very happy with the one I have. Surprisingly I wear is more than many others I have.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@dirkvoorhees5878 I like the looks of the Thorn I have and the San Martin I have, maybe it was bad luck with of the both of them but I’m not seeing the quality.

[@wngimageanddesign9546]

That Benyar brand is a lower entry department store line of watches from the parent company of Pagani Design. Mostly quartz and 30M W.R. I got a Tandorio Flieger automatic recently but came defective the minute and second hands collide and hit and stops the movement. As for Pagani Design, I've not received a bad one after 15 Paganis. But none of them are first year runs. All the QC issues seem to have been ironed out or revised. I have Rolex and Omega homages, an AP and two Panerai homages. San Martins seem to be very high production quality and control. The Seestern and DUKA are usually homages of DOXA dive watches. I own a DUKA made Seamaster 300M sold under their Dexcar branding. I got it for an introductory price, which was a steal. It's pretty well made. But the bracelet used male end links which is a major negative. I swapped on a silicone strap and it's now a daily wearer. I believe there a couple parent companies that produce multiple tiers of quality from entry to higher end homage and OEM private microbrands. LIGE, is one such companies (FeelNever, LIGE, Terami). Parent of Pagani Design sells under two other brands, ie. Benyar.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

These are definitely a way to collect on a budget, I’m up to 86 watches so I’ve really slowed down on watches, lol. 3 full watches boxes 12 in one in one winder 10 in another 3 in another and I few loose ones but I wear all of them usually 2 a day I wear my AliExpress watches to work and my better watches outside of work.

[@koskey06]

You do realize that with all three money you spent on these china made knock offs..... You could have AT LEAST 2 really nice name brand watches that will not only last generations, but good there value. Now there is nothing wrong with a cheap watch. I won't spend more than $100 on a watch but the watch I wear everyday is a cheap Casio. It's just when you buy 30 of them is when it don't make sense. Save up and buy that Seiko or omega, etc that you really want. You will be glad you did when you get joy wearing it everyday.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I have a lot of quality watches, bit since I don't want to damage my nicer watches at work I wear these.

[@blademirlima4708]

Have my Benyar for 2 years and still looks good. They offer great value.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I like benyar, they have been know to mis repent what their watches really are, but when advertised properly and you know what your buying they have tremendous value.

[@redmk5]

Thanks for sharing.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Your welcome 👍

[@DanielePais]

Coincidentally....I was looking at a Paulares just yesterday....

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

For what they are as long as they are priced cheap they are ok, haven’t any issues with mine.

[@elchoya8432]

ADDIESDIVE and STEELEDIVE are think from the same company.have that addiesdive but black dial and leather like strap,also had that addiesdive willard homage too.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

They go through the same factory, may be some difference in dial/hands.

[@bavarianwolf3806]

steeledive is the main and addies is the same factory the same watches but other logo and cheaper^^ i dont know why but there it is

[@nachomama55]

Just grabbed an Orient. Now I am second guessing.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

If you bought it from AliExpress it’s a good chance it’s fake, I’ve seen them in there and they are not crazy priced. There are sellers that fake seiko, citizen, omega, and a host of others but those stores usually get shut down. I always look up the store, never ever buy from a new store off there, and check the comments and that will be a good guide. You can get some great bargains from AliExpress, the same happens on Amazon too.

[@waldevv]

My only pet peeve with a lot of these are the weird brand names. I wouldn't want a watch with no branding at all because that looks equally weird but some of the names just don't roll off the tongue at all so it would be an awkward conversation any time someone asks. Have a few Pagani and Cadisen watches and I've loved them, tempted to get the PRX clone in red if only the specht&sohne logo wasn't so in your face

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Yeah the specht&sohne name is to much, they should just come up with a symbol, I want a real prx but I’m to cheap to part with $700.

[@Leo_Pard_A4]

That DUKA is an IWC Aquatimer homage.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

🤙👍

[@ArtoftheDial]

San Martin is better than Seiko 5 in terms of quality assuming you are not looking for resale value. Nice to see you have spread out trying various brands thought.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I did order a San Martin, they had it on a super deal for $160 so I pulled the trigger.

[@davidcrandall4958]

Yes there is 0 resale value on these!

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@davidcrandall4958 none at all, take them toa pawn shop you'll get nothing.

[@brianfromireland]

Great idea for a video

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Thanks !

[@KP-wp5sz]

Great video! I have a couple of Seestern watches and a couple Cadisen watches and I love them. My pagani was good but the clasp let me down almost immediately. Your videos are the realest on the internet regarding AliExpress watches - keep up the great work!

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Thank you, appreciate the kind words.

[@violinmke]

Oh and Berny full lumed dial I have Addie pilot watch had all night lume.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

AddiesDive and steeldive are good value for money.

[@aquila_d_oro]

I love them, great quality for affordable prices. Also every watch brand copy other brands so homage are better

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

If you’re looking to build an affordable collection this is the way to go.

[@davidcrandall4958]

This was very helpful Thank You!

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Thanks for watching !

[@SydneyDrums]

Get a Pagani with a seiko movement 👌🏼

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@SydneyDrums I have 3 😂

[@jimjam1188]

Great video my dude

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Thank You !

[@scatterbrain9490]

I like the seastar

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Its a excellent watch, and when they go on sale its a real value.

[@WorldReviews]

I have had 4 Pagani Design watches, never had any issues with them, reliable high quality watches. Cadisen watches are not on the same level.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Most AliExpress watches with a rotating bezel seem to some alignment issues I’ve come to find.

[@Samuell1124]

San Martin quality is on par if not better than Rolex imo

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Wow !

[@williamsipe1151]

Pretty funny that you avoid quality control issues, but seem to use Seiko, a brand known for quality control issues, as your benchmark. A $200 San Martin blows away any Seiko under $500 in terms of specs, build quality, and quality control.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I disagree, the san martin I bought is pretty bad, to the point I won't buy another one.

[@williamsipe1151]

We have very different experiences. I have around six San Martins and probably a dozen Seikos. The San Martins are better in every conceivable way. I've never bought a Seiko 5 because they are just trash, but even the higher end models can't compete.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@williamsipe1151 The san martin I got has scuffing in the case and a mis aligned bezel, all of my seikos line up and the finishing is spot on. I wish seiko would use sapphire and the bands on them are usually not so great but the san martin example I have has made me decide that I won't be purchasing another.

[@brokenchains]

Nice collection!!

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Thanks !

[@violinmke]

I have a Baltany thatooka likea Hamiltin Khami king that waa wxceptional. Ive ways done well for value on Batany including a dirty dozen homage. Steeldives Pagani got better on qc in my opinion the version 3 of the speedmaster is nice.... cadison as a value priced one

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I like the few cadisen watches I have.

[@rhoever]

I’m sorry but you lose all credibility when you say that San Martin watches are overpriced, then follow that up by saying you’ve never bought or reviewed one. I have a Seiko Alpinist, Orient Star, Hamilton Khaki Field, Longines Master Collection Moonphase, Edox Grand Ocean, Tissot, Ball Worldtimer, Jack Mason Strat-o-Timer, and 4 San Martin’s in my collection so far. I can honestly say that aside from the Longines, Ball, and Jack Mason, the SM’s are of equal or better quality and get more wear than the others. Do yourself a favour, get one in for review, you might be pleasantly surprised. I also noticed your Polaris stopped running at 2:44.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I have a san martin on order that I found on a super deal for $160, I did not wind the watch hence it only ran a short time.

[@thegorn]

I have six San Martins. Sold off my Omega, Breitling and TAG Heuer because of them. No-one on God's Earth can tell me that San Martin are overpriced - they are the bargain of the century as far as I'm concerned. But we all value things differently in terms of quality and price. It probably boils down to two distinct perspectives: 1. If you've discovered San Martin coming from the mid Tier luxury Swiss level, then San Martin is a dream come true, and great value 2. If you're just getting into watches and/or have a limited budget, and have tried the likes of Steeldive etc first and are happy with that, then yeah I get it - to those people San Martin might be a bridge too far. Note I also really like Steeldive and they are often less than half the price of the equivalent San Martin. So whereas I see San Martin as fantastic value for money, I see Steeldive as mind-blowing value!

[@gu-bx8in]

If you don't buy the right watch, you'll end up buying the wrong watch endlessly.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@gu-bx8in your correct

[@jazzman5598]

Fine vid! Thanks

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

thanks for watching.

[@MusicianGreg]

Seestern is a lovely watch but it doesn't have that good lume, for example, in comparison to steeldive sd1953.

[@Čangrizavi_Cinik]

I have a Seestern S434 - the best lume I have ever seen on a watch.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

The lume on mine is excellent.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@Čangrizavi_Cinik very impressed with mine, plus even the date wheel has lume, I work night shift and that lume holds for hours

[@wallytuber]

@@Čangrizavi_Cinik Yes. I think that is the next watch I want to get. The large numerals makes it extremely easy to read. That model looks sick.

[@Čangrizavi_Cinik]

@@wallytuber pick blue and gold model.

[@thegorn]

6:48 IWC Aquatimer

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Thanks, it’s hard for me to remember them all.

[@cruepprich]

Good honest advice. Thanks 🙏

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Glad you liked it.

[@SassyPants-00]

I dont't want to be rude but is not worth to spend your money on chinese watches ... If you want to go cheap from japan I recomand :Seiko ,casio , citizen . From Germany : Sinn, Stowa (best value for money). Swiss are overpriced in my opinion. What I want to say is don't stay stuck in a certain environment (I remember at the beginning I only bought seiko watches). And from china only brand worth is seagull . This is my personal opinion and I hope I haven't hurt anyone's tastes in terms of preferences.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I don’t buy watches to resell, and honestly I have many of the other brands you mention especially seiko/citizen.

[@davidcrandall4958]

That's all right I knew right away your Knowledge is limited,so don't worry😢

[@thegorn]

I don't care if a watch is cheap. I just want to know that it's well built and have the specs I'm happy with. Sapphire, clear AR, solid end links, decent clasp, screw-pins for resizing preferable, ceramic bezel where appropriate, great attention to detail on the dial, aligned bezels. The Japanese brands you mention are pretty disappointing on these fronts - they are the ones not worth it - unless you like rewarding mediocrity. As for Sinn and Stowa, they are very much of a certain look and centred for the most part around flieger and pilots style watches. There's only so many of those I want. I have a Laco flieger but most of the designs and styles I'm into are divers. Swiss are definitely overpriced.

[@GunGuy258]

I have that Green Captain Willard Steeldive and its better than any Seiko 5 dude. Seiko 5 could at least put sapphire crystals.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Although I’ve never done so, it you went into a pawn shop they’d buy the seiko and pass on the steeldive but you’d be lucky to get 1/4 of the value.

[@GunGuy258]

@bluecollarwatches7048 I'll still keep the steeldi e that I got on sale for $53.00 for a watch better than the expensive seiko 5's I've got. I won't be buying any seikos for a while. I just got the Steeldive Tuna with the orange 0-20 on the bezel for $80.00 and it is absolutely amazing. If it had Seiko on the dial it would be worth stupid money. For now, I'm good with the steeldives.

[@thereviwesoverviwer4115]

I wish I had one

[@meizuc9504]

Waowwww You have been an aliexpress watches enthusiast , if a where you, i dont think i have time to wear all of it 😁

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I work night shift 3/11 so during the day I wear one of my nicer watches and just about all the time I wear a less expensive watch to work and I rotate through them regularly.

[@shadigif8916]

Everyone needs a tactical frog!

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I was surprised by mine, much better than I expected.

[@gz7587]

great summary

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Thank You !

[@gergemall]

Thx

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Thanks for watching.

[@MIt-ql5bo]

Baltany and Merkur Missing

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I don’t own any of those, yet !

[@AQBPlays]

You can’t get a decent seiko 5 for 200 dollars anymore. Terrible specs and QC. I own a San Martin. Aventurine, sapphire crystal, screw down crown and caseback. Full milled bracelet. Micro adjust on the fly. Smashing seiko all ends up

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

In my personal experience I have not had any qc issues with seiko, and yes the price has gone up and the seiko 5 series is what’s so supposed to draw you into the brand. $200 and up is more than what most people want to spend for a timepiece especially when they just want to look at their wrist and check the time.

[@psiturbo]

I love Corgeut watches, the Omega Sea Master homage, their black dials are impressive. I just wish they would release more on the 22mm lug bracelet. At least on my wrist 22 fit me like a glove, 20 does look good but not like 22. I like Tandorio a lot. I hate Pagani, way over-rated, the chronograph line is trash, toy grade. On pictures they look amazing, but when you get them, is like wtf is this...

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I know pagani has a huge following, and I've tried to like them but have'nt had much luck.

[@1stamendmentmedia464]

Inexpensive San Martin at the $200 price point blow away Seiko all day everyday

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I’ve only bought one San Martin and I’ll never buy another, the watch had issues and their customer service is a joke.

[@ianrusso8790]

you can throw all of those away and get a san martin they are sooo good that they make seiko look bad

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Lmao

[@ianrusso8790]

Untill you get a san martin in your hand you have no idea of what you are talking about@@bluecollarwatches7048

[@gwcrispi]

Watches have long since moved past being timekeeping devices. A $20 watch can keep time just fine. They're jewelry and status jewelry at this point. I'm watching this video on my Chinese made TV but I draw the line on things that my life depends on so I would never drive a Chinese car.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Sort of, I wore cheap timex for years and I still wear my AliExpress watches to work and my better watches elsewhere so you’re pretty accurate.

[@watchsixto]

You have a lot of watches have you ever though about becoming a watch youtuber 🤔 😉

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Thats a good idea !

[@hieupooentrosang876]

❤❤❤😮 wow

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Thanks for watching!

[@owenlaprath4135]

Love my Tandorio W10 homage :) Also love my 3 Invictas, not sold on AliExpress, but they have AliExpress prices on Amazon, Walmart, and in their own online store, if you peek around a bit :)

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Tandorio is without a doubt my favorite budget brand, I have few Invictas to.

[@glenh4971]

Tandorio is super cheap and good.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Yes they are !

[@James20013]

Has anyone here tried oumashi?

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Never heard of them, I’ll have to google that.

[@kookvision9295]

This has put me off ali express to be honest 😂

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

i don't buy any more, i have to many

[@johanvandersandt8904]

This goes to show that China has really stepped up with their manufacturing. There is a lot of watch for not a lot of money in many of these brands...

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Absolutely !

[@frankfranklin3365]

Can I have your watches? Yes or no?

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

maybe if I put them on e bay 😁

[@frankfranklin3365]

@@bluecollarwatches7048 well crap

[@mCblue79]

On a price to specs ratio, some of these brands you dismissed are unbeatable. Without wishing to insult, I feel like you should be more informed and knowledgeable if you're going to put out this kind of video.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

It’s accurate to my collection, we’re not always going to see things the same way.

[@Chipmunk8999]

Sorry, can’t accept “don’t buy a San Martin” accompanied by “I’ve never bought a San Martin.” No way to know if they’re overpriced unless you check it out. On specs alone, most San martins are a better value than most Seikos (and this is from a Seiko fan)

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Check out my new video, I got a San Martin yesterday.

[@tko8218]

The yen is really weak now, so it might be better to take a look at the Japanese brands.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

I have many seiko and citizen watches also.

[@tko8218]

I'm new to the channel, so I'll take a look at your other watches as well. Amazing collection!

[@thegorn]

If they don't reduce their prices in local dollars, then it's irrelevant what the Yen does. Seiko are too greedy.

[@tko8218]

Well, they have different types: affordables and the really expensive ones like the Grand Seikos. But, don't forget about the Casios. Those are really cheap, good quality, and much variety. @@thegorn

[@howwemakeitepicthings7002]

Again, for those saying that Seiko 5's are worse than San Martin, you are both right and wrong, and that depends on what you value on a watch. Seiko 5 is the obvious choice for some due to its original design, dials which pop more than San Martin and most AliX brands and the brand heritage that you get with Seiko. San Martin is the obvious choice if you want a homage watch, care alot about value for money and want to get the best bang for your buck, personally I prefer Seiko for the reasons above and cant bring myself to buy a San Martin due to the unoriginal design.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Very well said, I have broken down and ordered a San Martin since AliExpress had one on their super deals for $160, will probably be the only one I own. I myself still stand by my statement that San Martin watches are still priced higher and at the end of the day it’s still an AliExpress watch. This will be the second most expensive AliExpress watch I’ve purchased.

[@gilbertoflores7397]

You know San Martin has being making their own designs watches lately? You'll definitely be blown away by their enamel, mother of pearl, and textured dials if you see one, especially for the price. Seiko is the top dog of detailed dials on affordable watches, but San Martin and the top brands are offering the same thing at lower price points now. There are some GS homages with similar texture dials.

[@howwemakeitepicthings7002]

@@gilbertoflores7397 ik, but they kind of have a reputation of being a homage brand, hope they change that though. Also idk if it's the actual dials or just the photography but their dials don't look as sharp. Also can U put link for GS inspired watch, I wanna see it

[@gilbertoflores7397]

@@howwemakeitepicthings7002 I've bought plenty of their colored dial watches, their enamel sunburst dials, their MoP fading dial, are hard to capture properly in picture. It looks much better in person than anything you'd see online. I'd personally stay away from their black dials, they're very boring, stick to their fun color options. If you search a brand called rimalti, you'll find the GS homage, with tons of interesting textured dial option, they make a version of the birch dial, a wood grain pattern, snowflake style, linen, bamboo and tons of unique colors too.

[@Mapalves27]

Seiko took a long time to put sapphire and ceramic in their watches, they lacked respect for their customers, I'm not a fan of any brand, I look for quality and a good price without thinking about brand history! San Martin, Cronos and other Chinese brands are great and about copies Seiko copied the Rolex Sub for example, we could give several examples.

[@pacovl46]

I love how you don’t want to spend 500 bucks on a watch you like, but then you get 20 watches for a hundred bucks each instead. With the money you spent on the watches in this clip you could’ve gotten 4 really nice pieces.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@pacovl46 I have higher end watches and could care less about your opinion.

[@pacovl46]

@@bluecollarwatches7048 well, if you post public videos on public platforms, you have to reckon with comments. If you can't handle that then don't post. By the way, you arrogant attitude sucks and just like that you and your channel can eff off. First and last video of yours I'll ever watch! By the way, it's "couldn't" care less

[@RJ-cq8dd]

Lol dont recommend a Seiko over a San martin. Horrible QC. Cheap materials.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

The one San Martin I bought is very poor, I won’t get another.

[@RJ-cq8dd]

@@bluecollarwatches7048 i've got my first incoming so i am curious as to what i get for my money. But Seiko has never ever impressed me. I am much happier with my Heimdallr Monster than i've ever been with any overpriced Seiko Monster.

[@RJ-cq8dd]

The San Martin i received today is a stunning watch (SN059 with blue mop dial). Perfect finishing and amazing dial. Every Seiko i have seen has qc issues and always scratches/marks on the indices and hands. This San martin has nothing like that.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

@@RJ-cq8dd mine has a misaligned bezel, and the case has scuffing from when they polished it, not happy with it and San Martin doesn’t seem to care.

[@RJ-cq8dd]

@@bluecollarwatches7048 That's too bad. Here in the EU we have a San martin webshop and with our laws it wouldn't be an issue to return/exchange it.

[@metaljew4456]

Why do you throw your watches around like trash? Show some respect for the craft.

[@bluecollarwatches7048]

Their my watches.

[@JohnLawson-jx4wl]

Thank you sir…Please continue… Katt Williams! Charleston White! Jason Whitlock! President Trump! 2024 Mental Illness will be address! Boycott NBA championship games!