SINCERE APOLOGY for the radiator noise at the beginning of this video, it stops early on but it's very annoying. Combination of living in New York City and wanting to record/get this video out quickly. Love you guys
@leza445311 сағат бұрын
A lot of what you said also relates to consumption of animal products. Production was ramped up to the detriment of animal welfare, horrible working conditions in slaughterhouses and other production sites, and using up ressources like crazy. Now a lot of people eat animal products in every meal, every single day, because it was made convienient and aggressively marketed as a good thing. As consumers we have an impact on these issues.
@missmia19611 сағат бұрын
Timestamp when it stops??
@tonioinverness9 сағат бұрын
Totally thought that was an iron lung...
@scottbuck15727 сағат бұрын
IMO you can barely hear it
@elfkwest4 сағат бұрын
@@missmia196 about 3:05
@rhitell13 сағат бұрын
Caitlyn Flanagan wrote a controversial and very interesting essay years ago about a similar topic - how many families outsource childcare (previously the woman’s job) to immigrants who they won’t pay social security taxes to because the nannies often didn’t have citizenship. Trading women’s labor for exploitation still isn’t the answer. Great video and thanks for making nuance clear.
@scootergirl366213 сағат бұрын
These are the sort of difficult conversations you don’t see from even the most progressive of popular activists nowadays
@6ThreeSided955 минут бұрын
@@scootergirl3662 Any social issue that threatens white women is conveniently left out of such spaces.
@MarleyMe9513 сағат бұрын
Chelsea, great videos on this topic! I really recommend fellow KZbinr/author Leena Norms who has two videos: "small actions mean nothing" and "Never tell me there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" where she debunks similar defenses of consumption culture. (She is also my dream TFC guest, just putting that out there). My takeaway from her points is that we don't change our small behaviors because we think they will change the world, we change them because we have our own moral code and don't want to do things that harm others. I think the defensiveness people have is a bit of denial. In the first video I mentioned, Leena talks about how taking action means we have to stop pretending things are "okay". I think people really struggle with facing the inequities built into our system. It's always easier to turn a blind eye and build strawman arguments then to feel that pain.
@maggiebookworm7 сағат бұрын
A Leena x Chelsea crossover is what I have been wanting for literal YEARS!
@julieannsarabia6 сағат бұрын
Rutger Bregman has a wonderful viewpoint on Hope versus Optimism and how pretending things are okay is detrimental to any real progress because it never really acknowledges the truth and reality of the system we are upholding. He would also make a great guest..
@bananainpjs15 сағат бұрын
On the topic of disability, I think that the argument that these services are helpful and life affirming for many disabled folks really leaves out the greater context that these same services actually CAUSE disabilities in many of their workers. Poor working conditions, no bathroom breaks, horrible pay, no sick leave, etc are all directly related to poor health outcomes (mental and physical) and that leads to higher levels of disability and illness overall. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, and we have to be able to hold the "yes and" of it all.
@lowkeyrising15 сағат бұрын
As a disabled person, I was waiting for someone to comment on this exactly! Yes, deliveries and such help disabled and the aging, but when worked get screwed over, get no worker's rights basically, and become disabled themselves, this is NOT a win!! The disabled community has had a history of being neglected and denied worker's rights, so these poor conditions are stripping worker's rights...how is it supposed to be of ANY help to gaining worker's rights for the disabled community? Seriously people need to look outside of themselves and have empathy or others.
@Aleatoire915 сағат бұрын
You could also argue convenience culture is leading to even more sedentary lifestyles for able bodied people which we know breeds medical and physical problems the more and more you remain in that lifestyle. Helping disabled and elderly people is awesome but you are so right that this does create a cycle of more disability and more health issues on the worker and consumer side. 😢
@lauraigla631915 сағат бұрын
Furthermore, it highlights the severity for which disable people cannot rely on their surrounding community and must pay out of their personal pocket to receive necessary services.
@renata897915 сағат бұрын
I can’t speak for US, but in my country disabled and elderly people simply don’t have the money to order delivery from supermarkets, let alone restaurants. If they do get a delivery, it comes from charity organisations.
@Lionesse-z4155315 сағат бұрын
Very well said! I can tie some of my disability directly to my experience in the workforce.
@hurududu2912 сағат бұрын
Right now in Canada our postal workers are on strike for fair wages and protections because of pressure from delivery services like Amazon. While this is inconvenient, I’m asking family and friends to wait to send packages until a deal is struck. Sure we might not get gifts on December 25th, but staying in solidarity with our fellow workers is more important
@TheCalucita12 сағат бұрын
I didn't know about this! 🍁🍁Just some maple leafs to support the canadian post! (For the family members nearby, may I recommend some chocolates, or a funky drink from the supermarket, and from the family members far away, the 2000's had some weird and funny digital holiday cards we can bring back into fashion 🍁🎉)
@maggiebookworm7 сағат бұрын
I recently learned that a Canada Post strike in the 80s is part of the reason we have such good (well better than the US) maternity leave! Strikes work and the rights won can benefit all workers
@Lau3464l5 сағат бұрын
Yes! Proud to support our post workers!
@kanyeblessed655815 сағат бұрын
Those comments did my head in....like OBVIOUSLY these convenience services help people who are disabled and aged, the video was clearly not arguing that we shouldn't be helping vulnerable populations. I feel like a lot of these negative comments come from people who are able-bodied and quite privileged who want to use the argument as a loophole to not check their own privilege and make changes that may make their lives SLIGHTLY less conformable...Changing the system WILL BE UNCOMFORTABLE!!! Not to mention, why can't we build community with people who are disabled or aged to help them with these sorts of errands? If we know our neighbor has trouble leaving their house, can we offer to pick up food or help them with basic services? Like come on. The tantrum comments perfectly illustrated the thesis of your video - which was excellently executed btw!
@Will140f15 сағат бұрын
All valid. Also, it won’t really be THAT uncomfortable unless you’re very out of touch with reality for most other people. We’ve only had UberEats and pals for less than a decade. We did just fine finding takeout before they existed and we will continue to be able to find it without them. Also, local competition for delivery services and apps will be hugely beneficial in knocking all the megacorporation apps down a few notches.
@jcg0300214 сағат бұрын
Yes, 💯. People use the elderly and disabled as a shield to push back on any arguments that make them uncomfortable. Reminds me of the joke that suddenly everyone cares about the disabled when it comes to parking removal but not the rest of the time.
@alyssaakabob13 сағат бұрын
Thank you! 100% agree
@TheRealE.B.13 сағат бұрын
Able-bodied people love using the disabled as a bogeyman. Take car dependence. In the mind of an able-bodied car owner, disabled people "need" there to be lots of free parking and high speed limits everywhere so that getting around is convenient for car owners... because disabled people can't walk (obviously). In reality, many disabled people CAN walk (e.g. blind people), many of them CAN'T drive, and everything that's dangerous and unpleasant for able-bodied pedestrians is even worse for disabled pedestrians and people in wheelchairs. At best, such people want it to be easier to occasionally chauffeur their disabled family and friends, but they have zero interest in granting disabled people the dignity of independent mobility.
@Tnya09913 сағат бұрын
@@TheRealE.B.Omg I've had friends talk about stuff like this in front of me, forgetting that I can't drive
@emilyniedbala15 сағат бұрын
I would also highlight that these services are very expensive and the vast majority of people with disabilities live in poverty as it is… its great that those who need it and have the money to spare can use it, but I honestly believe the majority of disabled people aren’t benefiting from these services because they aren’t able to afford them, and I think we should be seeking better publicly funded access in these areas rather than being satisfied with a system that only aids those with the money to spare (and as a disabled person, I appreciate your re-acknowledgement of the issue in this video but I also thought the way you addressed it in the video was perfectly adequate)
@alyssaakabob13 сағат бұрын
💯!!! Convenience culture comes at a cost and people try to morally justify this cost instead of reflecting
@ishathakor12 сағат бұрын
im saying! my grandparents had very little mobility in their old age and they could NOT have afforded constantly getting grocery deliveries or ubers or food deliveries etc. they lived as long as they did because there were people (their family and neighbours) looking after them. when my grandpa couldn't go to the office to get paperwork for his house done, someone in the neighbourhood could drive him. if he had to pay for an uber every time he needed groceries he wouldn't be able to afford the groceries.
@GunmaGirl10 сағат бұрын
Also something being an important service for those with disabilities does not mean that every consumer needs to be using the same service all the time. Parking is an easy example. Everyone loves a shorter walk to the store, but spots are reserved for people with disabilities for a specific reason. A more significant example would be a home health aide vs a personal assistant for the wealthy.
@karaperez609815 сағат бұрын
Chelsea, well said. You continue to set the bar for nuanced financial conversations.
@whatamess876415 сағат бұрын
100%
@thefinancialdiet14 сағат бұрын
Thank you!!
@mouseyes13 сағат бұрын
Regarding delivery service for disability: making improvements in our city infrastructure to make it easier to be a pedestrian also would make it easier for wheelchairs and powerchairs, too! Plus these delivery services are so expensive, I'm curious if people on disability benefits only can actually afford them and/or if it is actually exploitative of them. These delivery services outcompete any local services that might so the same thing and then raise prices, leaving some populations with little choice.
I can't afford them. When I first went on disability leave this spring I ordered a lot of meal deliveries, but I quickly found that it was unsustainable at my reduced income.
@TheShakedGuide14 сағат бұрын
I'm happy to tell you that the previous video has encouraged me to delete all the food delivery apps off my phone, embarrassed to admit I'm battling an addiction here. But I'm determined to make myself learn how to cook at 27 and grab some independance 🙏🏻
@thefinancialdiet14 сағат бұрын
:')
@victorrrrriaaaaaaaa14 сағат бұрын
@@TheShakedGuide you can do it!!!
@TheShakedGuide14 сағат бұрын
@@victorrrrriaaaaaaaa thank you so much!! 🩷🩷✨️
@rocioiribe584113 сағат бұрын
you can do it! honestly Budget Bytes has helped me so much with simple, approachable, yet delicious recipes :D
@crisberbas13 сағат бұрын
I'm so proud of you, you're going to become the best chef! (being a very mediocre cook also feeds you)
@Will140f15 сағат бұрын
I would suggest that the majority of people saying “what about disabled people?” are not themselves disabled and are using disabled people as an excuse to assuage their conscience about benefitting from an exploitative service. People are ridiculous. As if calling out the exploitation of low wage workers is somehow ableist. In no universe are accessibility and good labour conditions mutually exclusive.
@SamiKelsh14 сағат бұрын
This. It’s curious the way so many people are really invested in disability rights when it threatens specifically stuff they personally don’t want to have to interrogate their use of, and only then. While it’s true that some of these services can improve quality of life for disabled people, using that as a blanket defense of them without acknowledging that disabled people should be able to access accommodations that don’t come at the expense of workers’ wellbeing… is not great.
@Will140f14 сағат бұрын
@ and I’ll add to that, that disabled people should not HAVE to use these privately owned services because if they do that means that public services for disabled people are inadequate and need to be improved. Like if if someone using a wheelchair takes accessible Ubers all the time that probably means the accessible public transit near them is terrible
@fuchion1513 сағат бұрын
@@Will140f Yes! Took the words straight out of my mouth!
@SaintAvangeline13 сағат бұрын
100%.
@scootergirl366212 сағат бұрын
I would agree - I’ve been screwed over by a lot of the same people that claim to be warriors for the marginalized IMAO I think this using other people as shields against having to have actual difficult discussion is a symptom of the polarization, and just general comfort with animosity we have in American politics Well, I realize there’s not a whole lot of far right in these comments sections most likely, I will still point out that everyone does this. The religious right loves to use veterans, even as they vote to cut or worsen the services they need.
@hilarymorales980915 сағат бұрын
Hey! I would like to add that this is not only bleeding your pocket, it can affect your mind and life experience. The constant notifications of discounts keep you craving food and objects that you don’t need, it constantly puts your decision making abilities to the test. Therefore, peace and contempt with your own life gets questioned many times a day. Snow ball effect. 🙅🏽♀️
@thefinancialdiet15 сағат бұрын
100%
@ariwl114 сағат бұрын
Agreed. The only one of these apps I have on my phone is Uber, and in recent history I've mainly just used it when I go to visit my mother. She lives far away, I have to fly in, and she's reached an age where she's not comfortable driving on freeways anymore. But I was getting notifications from the app every day about essentially nothing until I was finally motivated to figure out how to turn them off. Even if you have no intention of using these they never want you to forget they are there.
@estherokeefe12689 сағат бұрын
I read a quote recently, “the purpose of a habit is to remove an action from self-negotiation”. If I have to decide every single day whether to cook or order in, I’ve created uncertainty for myself, and I’m likely to pick the easiest option. Meanwhile since I’m out of the cooking habit, when I do decide to cook it’s a struggle because I’m rusty at it, making takeaway look like a better option next time. It’s such a feedback loop, and I’m certain Uber knows about it because I’m pretty sure that’s why Uber One exists - to add a sunk cost as an extra weight on the Uber Eats side of the decision scale.
@liv974976 сағат бұрын
Very true! I went through a selection process to work for corporate burger king once and they spoke very proudly of how the app tracks people's habits (and location) to personalize the notifications. They have McDonald's stores flagged for example so you get a notification with an offer whenever you're close to a McDonald's. The app learns when you're more likely to want food, when you're going home from work, etc etc to provide you with an offer at those key moments. I imagine all the other apps do the same.
@tricuspa14 сағат бұрын
I loved the "...Toddler" video, and I think the stuff that folks really miss. It's tough not to want convenience and this is one of the hard points folks have to face. As you've become more dependent on this you are making other folks suffer and keeping wages down, effectively.
@bevbevbev_10 сағат бұрын
I had to go back to watch the previous video and go through the comments and I just want to say we are in an individualistic hellscape and we will never be free because people aren't willing to challenge themselves.
@ScarlettThunder12 сағат бұрын
I've grown to despise the expression "There's no ethical consumption under capitalism" because most people hide behind it as an excuse not to examine their own spending habits. If there's no ethical consumption under capitalism then we should be aiming to consume less.
@Lau3464l5 сағат бұрын
Totally. We shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water
@victoriamorris867815 сағат бұрын
"a serfdom". YES. it is the word I was looking for. Thank you.
@scootergirl366212 сағат бұрын
I like how you call out the people that have basically given up trying to shop from ethical businesses. The sheer lack of open mindedness and creativity is frustrating from a lot of people, especially when they actually have the money to do so. I have very little money, but I don’t use that as an excuse to only go to Walmart like a lot of people in poor small towns like to do. With just a bit of exploration, I found that my food stamps actually go further at Aldi’s, who, at least has the decency to let their workers sit, and make a living wage Americans need to stop with this bullshit that there is nothing they can do. There is always something you can do even if it is just choosing this thing over the other. With so many people with this attitude, I kind of honestly want unions to hurt customers too. The companies are the enemy yes, but many consumers are complacent to it, and need to get a shock to the system as well.
@Lau3464l5 сағат бұрын
I totally get the sentiment, but I’m not sure I understand your last point about hurting/shocking the consumer. I was going to rebut it but I’m interested in you elaborating, if you don’t mind?
@kweenz6005 сағат бұрын
@@Lau3464l if I’m reading it correctly, I believe they’re saying that the work of striking and negotiating etc that unions engage in can have the fringe benefit of bothering the consumer enough to be more mindful of the fact that workers are people also. So, for example, if regular people get their packages late, that definitely would suck for them, but it also remind them that the person delivering this package is in fact a person and not a robot without any needs, desires, or bills of their own. That’s my interpretation at least.
@billkinneman325214 сағат бұрын
One of the things I genuinely appreciate about this channel is your ability to handle nuance. Even if I disagree with you on an issue or its solution, you are never dismissive of the meaningful factors that play into the issue. This particular issue is so challenging because the same convenience service that creates disruption and even oppression can be a hugely positive force in certain people's lives. One thing I can confirm (having worked for a food delivery app) is that the local restaurant and the delivery driver will be treated far better if you call the restaurant directly to make your order (or, if they have one of the white label websites that are customized for direct orders, that is almost as good). That will also usually result in a cheaper price for you.
@LauraUnás-e6q10 сағат бұрын
I come from a low income country and recently moved to London to study. Naturally, my budget is very tight, but your advices have encouraged me to look for more sustainable ways to live. For example, almost all of the cold weather clothes I bought (I come from a very warm weather) are second hand, which I have found extremely affordable and also fun to hunt for! All of this to say: it is possible (at least in some cases) to do both.
@LauraUnás-e6q10 сағат бұрын
And, on the same note, I believe is a little bit condescendent to assume that people with economic limitations or disabilities are not able to choose sustainable options! It denies them agency and condemn them (us, tbh) to determinism...
@ifetayodavidson-cade561315 сағат бұрын
So many folks wanna bring up disability justice issues as a defense to convenience products and services, but don't wanna wear a mask so that disabled people can engage in public life with greater safety.
@Will140f15 сағат бұрын
And like, how is buying a 4$ shirt made of reusable shopping bag material from Shein helping anyone with accessibility requirements? It’s largely though not entirely a bogus argument.
@racheljames91879 сағат бұрын
So true, people want to have their cake and eat it. Thing is, if we genuinely want to care for others, it'll likely mean more tax and various other things for the wealthy... justice requires to some degree a revision of the current system of doing things... it will cost some people but is so worth it.
@amywilson75407 сағат бұрын
If you wear a mask, that's nice, but it's not going to enable an injured or disabled person to physically get to a store in the first place if they can't walk or drive (which some people can't do).
@ifetayodavidson-cade56137 сағат бұрын
@@amywilson7540 Yes, my comment assumes they have functional assistive devices and access to paratransit services.
@kagitsune7 сағат бұрын
This one! The ableism is showing its ass!
@carolynbraunius191411 сағат бұрын
These videos are great. Our society doesn’t encourage personal reflection. Life is easy but we are isolated. I don’t think we realize how isolated we are, until we need a ride somewhere and we have a very short list of people we can call.
@JessOwens15 сағат бұрын
I’ve been loving this recent series and it’s making me rethink a lot of my spend habits. Thank you 🩵
@baeballeverwizard15 сағат бұрын
I've been on and off listening to financial audit and while the show and Caleb himself aren't perfect, many episodes highlight the over reliance that people have on these services. People who don't even have the income to afford services like food delivery feel like it's a necessity and can't comprehend life without them, and lots of guests will get particularly defensive about their use of these services. They will use excuses such as the rising costs of groceries to defend their habits, even when the rising cost of convenience is higher than the rising cost of groceries. These apps have brainwashed people's understanding of necessity vs convenience.
@annaphallactic8 сағат бұрын
As a disabled person, watching able-bodied people use us as human shields against criticism from their own shitty ethics is just wild and needs to stop. We don't exist to justify anyone's bad behavior.
@robinmaher47974 сағат бұрын
'Two things can be true at the same time' - this is literally the definition of being an adult.
@ToDreamOfJade15 сағат бұрын
Thank you for responding to people's critiques with understanding and nuance! I think that people were also offended and therefore defensive about being referred to as "adult toddlers". The nuance was kind of lost with the title, so people clicked on the video already feeling attacked. I know video titles are intentional for a myriad of ways, but I just wanted to throw that out there.
@Pomagranite1673 сағат бұрын
I completely agree with her though. I think a LOT of adults in the developed world (especially in my age bracket) have lives with such convenience, luxury, lack of hardship, and coodling that many are honestly overgrown toddlers. It's never easy hearing a hard truth about oneself, but it doesn't make it less true. Not everything needsto be sugarcoated or a euphamism and "gentle nudges". Perhaps they got offended because it's true, which is the part they should focus on, not the part where it hurt to hear.
@eskimopie1552 сағат бұрын
The point about the gig workers being put in precarious and risky positions for our comfort so true. During the early pandemic when we were all panicking, my immunocompromised friend stopped going pretty much anywhere but kept going to the grocery store himself. He said even though he had a legitimate health reason to use a delivery service, he refused risk someone else’s life for his own. Now that the world has reopened, I think about that every time I see a bike courier weaving through rush hour traffic to deliver someone dinner. Not saying the person buying is always able to get it themselves or should have to, but pausing to ponder what the delivery person has to endure motivates me to go get things myself.
@victorrrrriaaaaaaaa15 сағат бұрын
I thought what you were trying to say in the video was incredibly clear and nuanced however people rather get mad immediately than think and reflect
@cesargalvan980815 сағат бұрын
Period
@kanyeblessed655815 сағат бұрын
Exactly. It was so ironic, the people throwing a tantrum in the comments. Like how are you gonna complain about the system and then not reflect and change your own actions, even if it can be uncomfortable.
@dgeata14 сағат бұрын
The people using these services are either adults, or teens old enough to engage in critical thinking. Either way, we adults have somehow become overly vulnerable to being told things without sugar coating. There are a lot of hard truths in that last video and I am glad that Chelsea said in a nuanced way, but didn't dance around using pointed language. In the case of teens using these apps, they may not put a lot of thought into how they use these apps affect people outside of their immediate sphere. Things like this are great ways to teach them and help them understand and develop critical thinking skills.
@nuxxy_11 сағат бұрын
@@kanyeblessed6558bc all of the actions can be under that label .... we can go back to everyone needing to walk to a well if you want to get rid of convienience. one type of convienience comes into conflict with another for the new forms bc its all part of the same time period
@solidsnake180614 сағат бұрын
Interpreting that video as a suggestion that maybe wheelchair users should stop ordering in groceries (for example) just because Chelsea didn't rush to assure that she understands things are different when you require accommodation in life is WILD. How do y'all guys survive in the real world.
@thefinancialdiet14 сағат бұрын
The craziest part is that I literally specifically talk about disability and its exceptions to a lot of the commentary in the original video!! Lol -C
@SaintAvangeline13 сағат бұрын
"I like pancakes." "Oh, so you hate waffles?"
@scootergirl366212 сағат бұрын
I’ve known some of these people that would comment those sorts of things They are often privileged and have mommy and daddy to take care of them so they don’t actually know what they are talking about
@Uncle_Smidge11 сағат бұрын
I call it Asterisk Culture. If you don't see seventeen specific asterisks coddling YOUR exact mental scenario, it's the end of the damn world.
@maisade9 сағат бұрын
@@SaintAvangeline That crap grinds my gears so much😂
@phoenixhexclar934014 сағат бұрын
I think in the case of elderly and disabled folks that need these services, they should not be through privatized companies. That's the main solution. If you can live without it just fine, then maybe consider why you still do.
@annalizer199214 сағат бұрын
Yes! That is exactly what I thought when watching your latest video, and I commented something similar about wants vs needs and women's domestic labour being outsourced. It frustrates me to no end when people think they are entitled to stuff like that, also because I am on a super tight budget and can't afford these conveniences, but also because if you have to, you just manage to get stuff done anyways. It's not perfect or particularly nice sometimes, but it's fine. It's not a 'need' for things to be easy at all times, it's a privilege.
@VoodooAsparagus9 сағат бұрын
Wonderful video! When I moved to Hong Kong, my father in law told me, wouldn't it be wonderful if other countries had domestic workers like in Hong Kong? That way, women could work more, less stress on parents raising children. He failed to acknowledge that this convenience is derived from the exploitation of (mostly) women from countries such as Philippines, Thailand. Foreign domestic workers can legally be paid much lower than the minimum wage, and are forced into dangerous power imbalances with their employers. Would love an episode specifically about migrant workers and how this is creating a caste system in some societies.
@jaimeerindy457314 сағат бұрын
I feel like you made it clear on multiple occasions that you were not referring to people who rely on certain services due to disability. You are talking about the far larger percentage of able bodied people who regularly use those services
@iambatman942014 сағат бұрын
The series has been super interesting - thanks for talking about these topics :)
@nouramouctar8176 сағат бұрын
I love your take on this! Accommodating people with disabilities should not be the norm. Modern slavery is too prevalent in our society. Your take on services being outsourced to minorities especially women of colour is spot on. Society puts to much emphasis on individualism and consumerism. Let’s build communities let’s rely on people etc. Yes we’ve come a long way in terms of women’s rights but we still have a long way to go.
@mrrd444413 сағат бұрын
Something I've seen highlighted in relation to Palestine but also applies here: so many people just hate FEELING BAD and hate being called out for being complicit in something because they personalize it into "WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME A BAD PERSON?" rather than take a moment to have some introspection. Rather than changing something in their lives they'll insist I CAN'T BE DOING BAD BECAUSE I'M NOT A BAD PERSON when that's not the point. When I realize a company I'm patronizing is doing terrible things I have to decide to change tact or if I cannot do it at this time. People need to stop and think about what they can DO rather than obsess over what kind of person they think they are. Because feeling bad isn't the point. Doing better is. Sometimes you can change, sometimes you can't, but at least think about it and try.
@vtheory753110 сағат бұрын
I think the only thing that might offend people in the original video is calling them "an adult toddler" but everything else she mentioned is completely reasonable and sensible.
@shiplon410712 сағат бұрын
I was kinda shocked at the comment section of that original video and how many of the comments completely glossed over very integral parts of the video. Especially the fact that these services created to "save us time" come at the cost of workers time (usually people of colour, usually overqualified immigrants). Many people were basically saying "oh well I'm actually supporting these workers with my money" which 1) solidifies the idea that you value your own time more highly than others and 2) is very much giving white saviour energy
@baeballeverwizard15 сағат бұрын
I feel like the disability argument is a strawman in this discussion, using an appeal to people's compassion towards the disabled as a way to justify their use of convenience services
@ketameanii15 сағат бұрын
yeah i definitely can see that
@ketameanii15 сағат бұрын
instead of like looking at the system as a whole
@DrDroog2914 сағат бұрын
100%.
@wafflesandkiwi13 сағат бұрын
Absolutely agree. We've become so polarized that if someone says something we don't like we have to think of ridiculous arguments rather than having an intelligent calm discussion.
@blessedmediocrelife13 сағат бұрын
I appreciate your perspective. Thank you for having the courage to have the conversation.
@dyhppyx10 сағат бұрын
I'm an Uber driver. Thank you speaking up for us. Users have idea how messed up we are treated
@toyafan14 сағат бұрын
it is fascinating to me how heavily people will judge you for buying from fast fashion or shein, but not say a single thing to the people buying from designer brands that are also using slave labor and underpaying their employees
@supernova62214 сағат бұрын
Ostensibly if you're paying 100s of dollars for a garment, the laborers *could* be making fair wages. A $3 tank top? You don't have to be an expert to recognize that the math doesn't work out for people or the planet
@UndeadGirlCyber13 сағат бұрын
I believe in that particular instance it's that fast fashion *additionally* is low quality and easy to over-consume. Both designer fashion and fast fashion can have terrible worker conditions (fast fashion being more likely, I'd argue), but with fast fashion you can feasibly replace your wardrobe every month (you might even have to) - that's making the problem worse.
@faithcrisis213812 сағат бұрын
My husband and I have come up with an "order list," since we're both bartenders and are trying to budget our lives to make the most of all purchases. We order only items we can't find in the stores normally, like a specific ingredient that's difficult to source in our area, and we make one monthly bulk order. Otherwise, we go to the store and use coupons and store apps to get better deals than these apps could ever provide.
@2011alexia11 сағат бұрын
I really appreciate the commentary on food delivery apps in particular. I ended up deleting the app in order to save money, eat healthier and contribute less to the convenience economy.
@karenbachar525315 сағат бұрын
C-you can not please all the people all the time. You bring up valid issues people need to take what they like and leave the rest...cheers
@alexa-hk2xu11 сағат бұрын
"just because these companies have terrible labor practices or are exploitative (...), that's not my responsibility as the consumer." - as far as people who think that way goes, i am inclined to wonder whether there are any other decisions or behaviors they make in their lives that they also don't take accountability for. possibly egregious ones. that sounds like a very selfish way to think.
@coneil728 сағат бұрын
Amazing, amazing video. Thank you for this. I think about 2020, and the explosion of grocery deliveries that year. So many of us - myself included, I'm ashamed to say - outsourced services like that to low-wage workers. We asked them to risk their lives in our place, all for the sake of a $10 tip. We have essentially returned to a Victorian-like social structure, pre-unions. This is not OK.
@let_me_ink14 сағат бұрын
I hate people's urge to hide behind the underprivileged to hide there poor choices. Yes somewhere there are low income people using fast fashion stores, but I've never met them. The only people I meet that shop shein Temu ect are people with enough money to not do that. Yes, delivery is great for people with disabilities if they have the finances, but many don't BECAUSE they are disabled. And these jobs in can be disabling. From car accidents to poor working conditions, it's a problem at all of these businesses. I need people to just take responsibility for what they want to do. If you want to shop fast fashion than do it with a back bone, don't just explain it away by using the plieght of people you don't even know
@Val--H14 сағат бұрын
This. Do it or don't, but if you do stop pretending like most of these choices are your only option. You're making a string of awful harmful choices because you can't bother to be mildly inconvenienced for a greater good. It's wild that the people pointing that out are somehow made to be the bigger villains half the time. When it comes to Amazon in particular, I made a point to make them my last resort if I can't find something anywhere else. Which isn't even a vow to abstain. As a result I think it has been YEARS since I've bought anything from there, and I've been fine. I give this example to show that it really does take so little effort sometimes to make a change that would be significant if done collectively. I wish we would all get on the same page.
@princesstelimena288712 сағат бұрын
EXACTLY! I hate that argument. Like even if people with low incomes needed shein to survive that doesn't mean you as a middle-class person also need to shop from them. They're just using lower-income people as an excuse to keep supporting a bad business
@officialghosty51813 сағат бұрын
I almost never order using uber eats and similar apps, not because of an ethical or financial reason, but a dietary restriction. There are really only 2 or 3 restaurants around me from which I can order food safely. I wonder sometimes if that wasn't the case, what my usage of those apps would be. A couple days ago, I caved and ordered takeout from one of the places because as a person with chronic illness, there are some days I just cannot leave the house to pick up my food. Since beginning to be a more mindful consumer and watching lots of channels including yours and others that discuss overconsumption and ethical consumption, I've been trying to order things online even less. I appreciate your discussing these topics but I also appreciate the grace you give to people with disabilities for whom these apps are really a great help.
@scottbuck15727 сағат бұрын
"No ethical consumption under capitalism" is not an excuse to uncritically engage in hyper-consumerism. Thank you Chelsea
@seagullglatthaar8214Сағат бұрын
Excellent points in the video and the original. I am a middle class working woman with 3 kids. It is a constant struggle to balance household, kids and work. It feels like whenever I voice this the recommendation is to outsource my labor (never mention my husband helping of course). I have refused explaining that I do not want to exploit in most cases disadvantaged women. I usually get blank stares or the response that I'm helping them because they want to do this to earn some extra money. Right. From now on I'll just show your video to them. In the meantime I've been retraining my husband to do his share of the housework (thanks MIL)
@liv974976 сағат бұрын
These convenience apps are even bad for the businesses. I know restaurant owners who decided to only be in one of these food delivery apps (or none), because the fees are pretty high, and if anything goes wrong (say, the delivery person doesn't get to the destination or the customer has a complaint) the onus is often on the restaurant to fix it, not the app. Now I always order from the restaurant itself and if they don't offer delivery I just go pick it up.
@didik955212 сағат бұрын
A different perspective - I live in Germany where customer service doesn't exist. Workers are actively rude to you and treat you like you are doing them a favor by being a customer. So whenever there is outsourcing - the service is cheaper, the employees are way nicer and I try to do my part by tipping generously. Maybe by losing business Germany might learn how not to yell/snap/ be rude to customers.
@JessicaUzumaki9 сағат бұрын
I'm a person who uses a lot of convenience services and I'm not disabled or rich. My sweetheart and I are both retail workers but we're childless for an idea of our income. We use electric bikes or walk on foot to get around unless it's winter where we walk when the weather is permitting. We live very close to our place of work so we are almost always able to walk there, even in the winter. We're also Canadian for what it's worth. The services we use most are grocery delivery services, taxi cabs, and food delivery services. In the winter months when we need to cab, the is less per month than the monthly insurance on a car (we tip, don't worry). It's also cheaper than two adult bus passes in my area. These cab rides are to get to places too cold on foot like doctor's appointments, social outings, etc. Groceries are very exhausting and difficult to carry by bike so we rely on grocery services for delivery. These are subscription services that generally cost $10 per month. We use two and we often put in two large orders a month except for in Winter when we can't make small trips on bike for fresh veg, more milk, etc. The delivery services we use are ones that have actual employees at stores using company cars. They also price their items at the same cost as in store. We tip them too. We do shop fast fashion and thrift because we're low income but we only buy things new that are made of sustainable fabrics like cotton, viscose, linen, etc. If I don't know a fabric I google it before I buy it. We're also careful with our selection of soaps and cleaning products opting for the most sustainable brands that we can afford. These are brands like Method, Bonterra (toilet paper), etc. I'm just quickly writing all this out so you have an idea of how this "lifestyle" can be had without spending tons of money. Basically, it's all attainable for us by not having a car and living in walking distance of work. If people get to stay out of the office and working from home and choose to live like us by dropping their car suddenly everything becomes much more affordable and some of that money can be used towards upgrading their essentials to sustainable brands. I haven't mentioned any of our inconveniences like shitty bike paths and lack of mobility to areas out of biking distance but 99% of the time this isn't a concern. EDIT: Forgot to add, we totally use SkiptheDishes and UberEats occasionally for pizza or chinese food. It's an expensive occasional treat and our biggest sin. I'm not proud of it.
@tylerfoster176314 сағат бұрын
I would have to rewatch your previous video in order to provide a proper critique, but IIRC the issue I took with it was that it came across as an argument against the existence of delivery services rather than an argument in favor of labor rights. I also still don't quite understand what "entitlement culture" is or how this relates to it.
@lindag.906913 сағат бұрын
I feel like we get really caught up in the Make Better Choices as a Consumer blame game here and forget the larger context of how these systems interact and support each other. Consumers across the board increasingly rely on conveniences like fast fashion, food delivery services, grocery delivery, ride share apps, etc. powered by gig workers because workers are tired, stretched too thin, underpaid despite being more productive than we have ever been in history... which contributes to the poor treatment of gig workers, who are also tired, stretched too thin, underpaid, etc. and we end up debating who is Better for making certain choices and who is Worse for making certain choices instead of finding solidarity and actually holding the people who created and profit from this system accountable and changing it. Which is what the Bezoses and Musks of the world want -- if we're too busy fighting each other, we can't fight them, right?
@hellaradusername14 сағат бұрын
If nothing else, I'm thankful that my parents never paid for food delivery and would go drive to pick up pizza or Chinese food. I've kept up that habit.
@detectiverose8 сағат бұрын
One of my New Year’s resolutions for 2024 was to stop ordering food delivery, and other than a few hangovers, I stuck to it. It was honestly just to save myself money and try to gain some discipline over my admittedly terrible diet, but your videos on this subject have prompted me to delete every account I had for every delivery app. The temptation isn’t even there, anymore.
@scottbuck15727 сағат бұрын
You know we live in hell when feudalism looks worker-friendly by comparison
@JuliaTaylorSoprano15 сағат бұрын
Thank you for acknowledging the disabled community. Disability has skyrocketed since COVID, and will continue to do so as long as the Long COVID problem is ignored by public health policy makers. I think any conversation with a level of nuance is challenging to have online and I thank you for talking about hard things ❤
@Jessica-n2y7j15 сағат бұрын
100% agree and thank you for bringing up Covid! For anyone else reading, it's not too late to start masking again and it could prevent you or someone else from becoming disabled due to a Covid infection.
@realclassroom127812 сағат бұрын
I have been thinking about this a lot lately. I have decided not to shop on Amazon, and to only shop in the stores in our downtown area. We are getting our tree tonight. Instead of going to a big box store, we are going to a family owned lot in our community.
@lindiwengwevela52415 сағат бұрын
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the impact convenience culture has on the environment. There's been a lot of talk about how the increasing consumption of disposable, unsustainably made, non-degradable products has negatively affected our ecosystems. There are so many (Western) countries that are scrambling to find places to dump their trash, much of it being fast fashion and single use plastic items. Most of it ends up being dumped in Africa, Latin America, and South Asia. Western convenience consumerism has had a devastating impact on much of the environment in the global South.
@racheljames91878 сағат бұрын
So true. In global terms, clothing deprivation is a myth - we produce more than enough to clothe everybody well, yet many western people buy more than they need, buy items that are low quality and produced with exploitative labour and environmental practices, and see donation as a valve to deal with the excess - we send our unwanted clothing 'to the people who don't have enough clothing' and feel good ok about donating worn and damaged items we'd never wear ourselves :/ Only 10% of items donated to a thrift store are sold there, the unwanted stuff is landfilled, downcycled (to insulation etc) or sent overseas. We need to send quality items overseas - stuff that will last and is culturally appropriate, not the rubbish we currently send them. We need to have the very long term in mind with every clothing purchase.
@Aoiraider13 сағат бұрын
The fact that you can go from a kid who threw out a maxed out hello kitty credit card to becoming a person who is so kind, thoughtful and articulate person is so inspirational. Everyone should be so thoughtful in contemplating their consumer habits. Love your content, please keep at it.
@katc204011 сағат бұрын
Kinda insane to imply that having a spending problem doesnt mean your kind thoughtful or articulate
@thefinancialdiet9 сағат бұрын
This is a really kind comment, thank you
@teenindustryСағат бұрын
As someone who is both middle class and living with a mild disability (epilepsy) which means I can’t drive uber is a game changer. I try not to use it a lot but often it’s the difference between a 90 minute public transport ride or hour long walk to and from the gym or 10 minute and 12 to 20 bucks. I can also see how pre cut veg in the supermarket make life easier for those with a disability. I don’t like exploitative labour practices but without other infrastructure I rely on these services sometimes
@aliciamullaney663411 сағат бұрын
So glad that I know how to survive without all these conviences in my life. First I live in a more remote area where delivering food and getting Ubers is near impossible. Second at the age of 58, I lived a lot of my life without cell phones dictating my life, so while I do have a cell phone, I am not completely attached to it, I actually leave my home without my cell phone many a days and somehow I survive out in the wild. Glad I was born in a time when playing outside and leaving someone a message on their answering machine was the way we worked and lived nicely. I also know how to use a map!
@spottedtiger38013 сағат бұрын
Love your haircut!!
@racheljames91878 сағат бұрын
yeah it is super cute and suits her :)
@BellaOConnor-m3t12 сағат бұрын
Yes to ALL of this! I’m so tired of people who have the financial means to make better choices justify their unethical consumption with “no ethical consumption under capitalism” or “too much pressure is on the consumer” blah blah. It’s not half as radical or class conscience as they think it is. Stop buying from H&M and go touch grass, hun.
@renata897911 сағат бұрын
To be fair, there is a lot of uncalled for pressure on the consumer, however, never ever have I been to a coffee shop where you could only get a drink to-go if you bring your own re-usable cup. I'd like to see someone try and open such a place, it would be an interesting experiment.
@dawnslight9813 сағат бұрын
It really really infuriates me that these companies can't just act right.
@LizCooper3912 сағат бұрын
I enjoyed this follow-up! I was thinking back to an episode of Last Week Tonight where John Oliver makes the point that (mostly) millennials are getting a service which should be more expensive at a subsidized cost, to your point about the cost to the gig contractor which is a huge concern. In addition to shopping more local (for folks who can afford it) I think we should be writing to our representatives which for many of us will feel futile given the party in power and ask them to address this. If enough of us do it, it’s possible that we could at least put the idea on the table. The most effective change is top-down. I’m not personally affected by changes to grocery and food delivery or ride share as I rarely use these services because I don’t like supporting gig companies, I don’t like the way their contractors are exploited, I am very aware of the way gig companies shake down restaurants and can put them at a competitive disadvantage if they don’t participate. It feels our country is run by a Silicon Valley mob. I’m fortunate enough to be able-bodied and not in need of grocery delivery. I also despise how Airbnb displaces locals here and abroad. I completely agree with you from a personal consumption perspective. I try not to judge the consumption through my opinions as it’s almost never productive and I’m sure I have blind spots as well and therefore, I’m not a perfect consumer either. Re-reading my comment, I didn’t mean to come across harsh when the small business owner lamented customer expectations. What I could have better communicated is that if she’s not already, she can set expectations of her service while advising how this benefits the consumer directly or the community. E.g., the cost of our service provides a living wage which supports a local family and is reinvested in the community, or the minimal packaging protects our environment by eliminating waste and the cost savings are passed along to you, etc.
@Yavin411 сағат бұрын
All labor needs to be respected and paid a fair salary. Any business model that cannot pay its labor force should not exist.
@epbrown018 сағат бұрын
Agreed. I hate when people (usually politicians) claim some jobs aren’t worth a living wage. That’s a violation of the social contract: if you’re knocking out 40 hours a week doing a job, it should pay enough to support you, period. It doesn’t matter if you’re flipping burgers, working a counter in a bodega, or washing cars. You’re a contributing member of society, you should be able to live in that society. It’s not some sort of capitalist tragedy if the CEO only makes 200 times your annual pay instead of 300; we can afford to close the wealth gap a bit.
@racheljames91878 сағат бұрын
1000 yeses to this. Fair pay and conditions are for every single worker.
@FrenchTheLlamas15 сағат бұрын
Im not sure if this is an american centric thing but in the UK getting your groceries delivered is not a luxury its £2. And it saves so much money to buy in bulk and discounts, so getting that delievered is huge money saver for me as someone who doesnt have a car. Is this practice exploitative? Just seems to be quite general statements i think thats why people were a little confused. Big fan though honestly.
@rini1001014 сағат бұрын
Is that a service offered by the supermarkets themselves where they employ their own people to deliver? Because there's no it's an app service like Postmates and it's £2 every time, that's not even enough to pay the labor cost of the gig delivery person. The payouts would be pittances.
@FrenchTheLlamas14 сағат бұрын
@rini10010 They are hired by the company themselves, Asda like Walmart in America. Does that not exist in US?
@rini1001013 сағат бұрын
@@FrenchTheLlamas It might but that also wasn't what Chelsea was talking about in the video. The topic was convenience services, primarily app-based like Postmates and Instacart. The Asda person who delivers for you is an employee, not part of the gig-based economy, and does not face the bad labor practices that economy entails that Chelsea criticised.
@racheljames91878 сағат бұрын
Yeah, we have free grocery delivery from our two major supermarkets here in Australia (there is a minimum order amount, which is higher than my needs as a single person, but most people would qualify). My neighbours on either side get theirs delivered. Those drivers are paid by the supermarkets and would have far better pay and conditions than gig workers.
@heylisten7266Сағат бұрын
I actually just examined my needs and signed onto Amazon prime yesterday. I wish I had done it ages ago. I think convenience is a tricky topic, because everyone is so different. My brother requires grocery delivery to live independently. I have no issue going to the grocery store sometimes multiple times a day. He barely uses Amazon, whereas I rely on online shopping otherwise I would own almost nothing. I admit I’m privileged, but also Amazon comes to my apartment building multiple times a week anyways, so I really don’t know how terrible it is for me to use it. I do feel like an adult toddler for a lot of reasons. But if I had to pick a direct culprit, I would pick depression.
@TracyWilliams-ny9ec11 сағат бұрын
I completely agree with how ridiculous this convenience dependence has become. I think the best way to reach your target audience is by emphasizing the high cost ($$). Pointing out the labor issues and the environmental issues is less effective in changing behavior, I think. I enjoyed the Adult Toddler video, but I kept waiting for the part where you did a deep dive into monetary costs. I'm picturing a video analyzing itemized receipts from DoorDash and Instacart, in detail. I know people who frequently order Door Dash from a cluster of restaurants about 2 blocks away, and they don't even consider ordering from the restaurant and picking it up themselves, which used to be the norm. Also looking at the ingredients provided in your Blue Apron order vs. the cost could be another video. I did a meal kit for a month once when I was in a furnished apartment with all my stuff in storage, due to a corporate relocation, and it's great for situations like that. But quite pricey for multiple nights per week as one's longterm meal planning solution. It's wacky to me that these high costs have become normalized as acceptable for a middle class budget.
@MisaMouri14 сағат бұрын
TFD tapped in to the "door dash for disability" discourse from last year. RIP to Chelseas patience. Many of the people using these as a service for their claimed disability completely ignore that food delivery for disability has been around for a hot minute because what they actually want but wont admit is a private taxi for their chipotle
@dgeata14 сағат бұрын
Social or charity based meal delivery services like Meals on Wheels are amazing for our seniors and disabled people. I think those people encounter 2 problems. The first is the stigma of using a social safety net or charity based service. Though this is at odds with accepting disability payments. The second, and less pretty, reason is they may not have a bad enough disability to qualify for those meal delivery services. I'm not here to group people into "worthy" or "unworthy" disability categories, but having anxiety or needing to use a cane for a mobility aid isn't exactly making one home bound. UberEats lets some fall more victim to their disability.
@carl658915 сағат бұрын
Amazing response to comments!
@katie80998 сағат бұрын
People with disabilities shouldn’t have to rely on corporations “providing” conveniences. I hope someday we don’t have to.
@unclerat213115 сағат бұрын
Interesting topic. I like these spontaneous comments. You rattle my cage this way.
@eloise90728 минут бұрын
Really great video. I think a lot of us are guilty (myself included) of prioritising convenience over quality and ethics. I’ve definitely found that an extra £5 for a great local brand doesn’t dent my budget massively but it does make me feel better about who I am as a person. When I do buy on amazon for example, I get this icky feeling now that I know more about how the company operates. Of course there are loads of people who haven’t got that privilege, which i recognise. But those of us who do need to examine our own actions a little more:
@SimplyMayaBeauty11 сағат бұрын
I'm going through cancer treatments at the moment while living alone as an immigrant in Germany, which means I'm pretty much disabled. In theory, I'd be the perfect example of someone who could really benefit from convenience services. In reality, I don't use them all that much. It's not some noble thing - it's just genuinely not that necessary and oftentimes expensive. There's reason for that though. For one, I live in a walkable city with things like a supermarket, drugstore and pharmacy minutes away on foot. I have family members flying in who are able to support me. I have friends on standby ready to step in if need be when my family can't be here. AND I have public health insurance that even pays for half of the cost of my cab rides to and from the oncology clinic, so I can avoid Uber and use actual regulated taxis when needed within my budget. *That's* what allows me to reduce my dependence on convenience services even as a (currently) disabled person - community support and a system around me that makes it easier for me to retain as much of my independence as possible and naturally go for the more ethical option. If that wasn't my environment, I would 100% be more dependent on these services. Long-term, I strongly believe that has to be the real solution. Being constantly individually burdened with making every small decision as ethical as possible is a genuine burden on an already overburdened population.
@AimeeRose2213 сағат бұрын
Great points, just shopped at a local gap, a local toy store, and pick up our own takeout on the regular!
@maisade9 сағат бұрын
Loved the Toddler Video. You hit the nail on the head.
@PedestrianPony8 сағат бұрын
"Some people can only afford fast fashion!" she said while confirming her purchase on a $380 Shein haul.
@DarkBloodbane3 сағат бұрын
I believe the real issue here is why everyone chose to become adult toddler. Even without all these modern technologies, people could just lie down all day long not working or doing anything. Then after finding the answer, there's still question of how to persuade them not to which is going to be harder with these services. Without the answers to those questions, we will see similar videos in the future not just from The Financial Diet.
@kristenkaye11 сағат бұрын
On the flip side I’ve heard the sentiment that outsourcing some tasks like, for example, housekeeping is a way of supporting people who have less income/education. Where $100 may not be significant to someone wealthy, it could be a week of groceries for a family that’s struggling more. Is it problematic to hire someone who works for themselves? Or only if they’re gig-based like task rabbit? Sometimes people start there to get exposure and connections and then pivot to working out arrangements with clients directly. That’s how we met our handyman, he did a great job for us on something that was beyond the scope of a KZbin tutorial and when we wanted to hire him again we just hired him directly so he didn’t have to deal with app fees, etc.
@racheljames91878 сағат бұрын
I think independent contractors and gig workers are different categories :) I'd have no problems paying a gardener if I was wealthy, I hate mowing :D I'd be expecting to pay them a fair amount that gave them a living wage, as a person of equal value and whose time is worth no less than mine... I think that's the rub with gig workers, they're treated as people whose time and self are just less valuable compared with other people.
@papi_sativa12 сағат бұрын
To that first comment: There's a difference between fault and *RESPONSIBILITY*
@niklas_kammertoens3 сағат бұрын
For someone who doesn't live in a dystopian car centric city and has realistic good options of getting around most days without owning a car I think it's super valid and very good for society that he doesn't buy a car and instead orders groceries every 2 weeks and takes an Uber 2 times a month
@joezcafe13 сағат бұрын
Convenience culture in my mind is a band-aid solution to a larger, ignored issue that the cost of goods has skyrocketed beyond sustainability. One easy example is the prominence of subscription services in the game industry, such as Xbox Game Pass giving you a whole library of games for a monthly fee, which is a steal primarily in part to AAA budgets inflating to the point where the resulting titles have to sell for $70-$80 USD each, additional in-game purchases notwithstanding. It's a convenience, but only because the exact same system that provided us with said convenience provided us the problem to begin with.
@bunnyisarider132 сағат бұрын
Solid. I'm a gig worker of the grocery shopping and delivering variety and I like it, but it should absolutely pay more (tips make it or break it. it would NOT be worthwhile if ppl didn't) & we should have workers rights. The biggest appeal about it for me is being able to control my schedule therefore giving me some autonomy, where with other low paying jobs that I have worked my whole working life you have very little schedule flexibility and I've also had some trash bosses. Ya don't have to deal with the latter with gig work, of course they could also just boot you off their platform anytime if they feel like it 🙈
@amanda43135 сағат бұрын
The comments on convenience and disability are valid, but they neglect that these convenience services prey on and exploit disabled people who have difficulty securing or maintaining traditional employment.
@AR-md1zq13 сағат бұрын
I really wanted to decrease my use of convenience culture items and services like Amazon and then I became physically disabled. I will improve but never to the physical ability I had before. I had to use these services to get by much to my chagrin but it has been my current need. And I just look at this as a stop-gap until I figure out how to be an ethical consumer with my new disabilities.
@janar73414 сағат бұрын
Very thoughtful video. My takeaway is that rather than blindly/automatically using these services, consider if there is a more local albeit possibly more time-consuming alternative. Similar to de-cluttering...do I really need this service?
@Elspm9 сағат бұрын
I think sometimes it's about really being honest with which of these choices actually contribute meaningfullyto our lives, versus mild convenience and choosing the best of those options. My ADHD used to make shopping a terrible time for me (many hours lost walking in circles only to buy the wrongthings), so grocery delivery has been extremely helpful for me. However, I do very deliberately go for the supermarkets (the drivers are at least not gig workers), we buy a local growing enterprise's veg box once every couple of weeks, and I try to do small shops in my local corner shop. And my husband regularly does the shop rather than me. So I feel like it his the balance. Meanwhile we get very few ubers preferring public transport, and have sworn off amazon unless we literally cannot find the product anywhere else. Annoyingly some vendors use amazon for delivery anyway. When I was a child far fewer places delivered for (but they did pick up). We've been trying to get back into the habit of going for pick up, but some places aren't well set up for it.
@RandomJane1047 сағат бұрын
This just triggered me but not quite for the reasons one might think. I used to do 100% of the grocery shopping in my house (hitting 3 different places most weeks to save money) despite making the most money and working the most hours (45+/week). I also do 95% of the cooking and meal planning and 90% of the cleaning. We have a condo, so my husband doesn't do yard work either. In therapy, my husband agreed to do the main grocery shop to take some burden off me, plus emptying the dishwasher, taking out the trash, and vacuuming when I tell him to (never of his own volition). He did the grocery shopping for a couple of years, then covid hit and he discovered ordering online and picking up. He thinks it's the best thing ever. I hate it. It makes me have to get the list together on Saturday when i'm not in grocery mode, instead of Sunday morning, plus they tend to substitute things or not give us the best produce, etc. So now I have him get his things and the things we can't get at Aldi/Costco by pickup, and I end up going to Aldi to buy most of the groceries on Sunday (plus a monthly Costco run) when I have had time to figure out what to cook for the week on Sunday. My brain just isn't in grocery mode on Saturday. So I'm back to doing the bulk. I guess at least I'm only hitting one or two places instead of all three. Him picking up the groceries makes it less convenient for the planner/cook. He takes the easy way out and discounts the labor that I did for years, pushing it onto a serf because he's too lazy to do grocery shopping. It eats into his video gaming time. He isn't demanding and doesn't require cooking or cleaning to happen. He would just eat frozen meals and let things go to $hit of I decided not to do them, but if I want them done, I have to do them or tell him to. What is wrong with so many men?
@OraBella10 сағат бұрын
I thought the original video was quite clear and I’ve been enjoying your perspectives across the past few video essays. Another thing that has not been mentioned is what people want convenience FOR. Of course many people are busy with their jobs and families, but I also know many people who use food delivery services just to spend more time on their screens. And studies have found that being on screens is not relaxing at all, but rather engaging in a different type of activity like cooking. I personally love going to a neighbourhood restaurant as a treat - enjoying the walk to and from, seeing the small changes in the restaurant, and getting to know the workers. I’ve never been able to get into online shopping because I need to see things in person and take in the process of it all.
@KeriRojas5 сағат бұрын
I've watched family members stay broke because they wouldn't wait and buy the quality item, but will buy the cheap one over and over again.
@cesargalvan980815 сағат бұрын
I love the title of the video. That’s really what it boils down to over consumption and convenience equals entitlement people get so defensive when you call them out about how they’re killing the planet. I wonder if the over consumption and convenience somehow bleeds into why there’s so many people going no contact with their parents maybe because we’re so used to the convenience. We just put up with peoples mess less.
@asirrisa76154 сағат бұрын
I did used to enjoy a lot of the conveniences you talk about. But lowkey, i kinda hate those rich wealth hoarders more than i like food delivery. Every time I want something from Amazon now I imagine going up to Jeff Bezos and handing him 35$ right into his evil little hand. It turns my stomach and gives me the resolve to go look for the thing irl.
@mallorygraf857413 сағат бұрын
I honestly think each generation has their financial blindspot. As a from 1980s, I remember that so many of my friends had credit cards that we did not know how to handle. Visa and Master Card were becoming available to the average person. Most of us had parents who paid cash or lay away for everything, so no advice about how to use credithe right way. Long story short, so many of my friends ( middle class abd above) literally had to file for bankruptcy...in their 20s!! I barely could pay my bills and the bill collectors were ruthless back, but I did it! This was in San Francisco, which has always been an expensive city...so I do sympathize with the younger generation, as at that age we always do what your peers are doing.
@ketameanii15 сағат бұрын
Bean soup theory??
@andreadekrout522214 сағат бұрын
I am really interested in why we can't just "never buy anything off Amazon (and the like)". There is literally nothing I need that I couldn't get elsewhere, easily and online. In our house Amazon is just a hard NO. Uber is an only if there is literally no other taxis within an hour and if food is ordered we go to the restaurant's website. All of this is exactly the same level of convenience as the apps. I think we are letting ourselves off too lightly by saying that supporting these infamously hideous companies is unavoidable in the modern world. It's not.
@Timeus14 сағат бұрын
I find it distasteful for someone to ride share and not tip. It's not a huge investment in some sort of e-movement over using an app for something.