Let's Talk About Her Weight | Step 391

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[@dearyvettetn4489]

The, “why don’t you just buy a new boat…”comment is really thoughtless and annoying. If Uma were a 50 year old car or a 100 year old house, no one would be asking this questions. Just because some of you can’t appreciate the challenges and learning opportunities of a project like this doesn’t mean others don’t.

[@tototere]

Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one. It is your boat, your experience, your wants and needs, your research, your skill set, your budget and your decisions. Your blood, sweat and tears. I enjoy all aspects of your posts. Thanks for sharing.

[@_f355]

...everybody has one, and most of them stink :)

[@OneEyedJack01]

"That's just like, your opinion, man." - The Dude.

[@OldF1000]

And there is a fine line between having one and being one

[@user-wm1zt2mf8n]

Still trying to polish a TURD

[@seanobrien7169]

The one thing i havent seen considered by the new boat vs retrofit people is that unless you have a custom boat built you are getting much more quality by what you are doing. Even the more expensive builders cut as much cost as they can. There is no substitute for knowing your boat from the bilge up. You KNOW what you have. I was in the new boat camp before you started the build but since you decided to tackle this and do it right I dont think there is any arguing that you will end up with a much better boat than anything you could buy short of, again, a custom build.

[@athuddriver]

As a non-boater that has developed an unusual interest in boats I think from some of the posting by real boaters is similar to the RV industry of late. There is a lot of emphasis on glitz that is relatively cheap and less quality in the build. I suspect this is more likely in "production" models as apposed to custom but even (again as in the RV industry) custom builders can cut the wrong corners.

[@pagegreer5081]

So true Across all industries.

[@0xKruzr]

I mean she basically *is* going to be a custom build at the end of this process. Ship of Theseus for real!

[@chrisarnel4487]

Appreciate you fixing the boat, it's nice to keep boats alive.

[@Glenbard4]

Absolutely, don’t listen to the haters. They’ll have something stronger and more unique than any production boat they could buy.

[@carenclemmons5002]

@@Glenbard4plus you absolutely know her ergonomic capabilities, how she stretches her britches so to speak. Great idea to log all the details that you are aware of, the science behind your choices, inside as well as out, will be so illuminating when contrasted and compared to the original function. You two are still ‘on-to’ something great, again.

[@stevenmoore4078]

I absolutely love this project. I own a 1964 Pearson Commander 26, so I appreciate vintage boats (as well as vintage cars and motorcycles). I am also a technology professional and enjoy ideas that integrate classic design and modern technology/materials. Great episode.

[@abcangirl]

❤ I'm an older Canadian woman from the Alberta Prairie and your videos all make perfect sense to me. I've read so much about seafaring and lost at sea stories and I've learned a lot watching my sailing channels. I am mechanically inclined myself and so I get a lot of what you and Brian from Delos talks about. He is a master jack of all trades and I can see you guys being that way too. They and you are my favorite. I so so so can't wait till you're back on the water again because I want to see how she turns out and how everything works out on board for you. Thank you for sharing this awesome adventure with everyone. Love from home always.

[@scottdoran6347]

Love following you guys, 🇨🇦, I left Vancouver Island June 2016 from French Creek. I fitted my boat out in Nanaimo. 40,000 nm in and still loving the lifestyle. Currently in Thailand.

[@-suncheez-]

Thank you so much for the very detailed explanation of plywood-vs-foamcore. That gave me a perspective that I wasn't thinking about regarding my own projects. Was completely derailed by Duracell Project. :)

[@EUC-lid]

Matt is the perfect guy to rebuild a foam core racing boat. He’s already familiar and equipped with the proper process and tools for heavy composite work. Duracell could be an open ocean rocket with a doghouse when they’re done. It’ll be interesting to see how much speed they keep in her when it comes to sail plan, etc. I’m glad Dan and Kika have kept the scope within their particular skills and needs. Uma Ver 2 is going to be a gorgeous small Goldilocks home for them.

[@-suncheez-]

@@EUC-lid yeah, Matt is great, and he declared once "no wood anywhere in the boat" but "why" completely washed out of my mind. That's why Dan's explanation enlightened me.

[@jtuesley2352]

The fact that you could come up with those sliding scales as quickly as you did is very telling as to how much research you have done👍

[@uhoffmann29]

I love your data-based approach. Not guessing at the start, but gathering data and then make a decision that is based in facts and experience. :-) That's the way to do it.

[@Gregemio]

Dan & Kikka back for the weekly "How to cook a Boat ~ cooking show". Nice.

[@teejay7157]

You two have McGivered that boat so many times... and I have enjoyed watching you design and engineer each phase of Uma's development. I remember the original keel work, the install of the forklift motor, and all of the various structural and design improvements you've tackled throughout the years. This time, after having stripped Uma down to the hull, you're going to be able to solve so many of the issues that have bothered you throughout the years. And as was the case when you went electric way before it became fashionable, I'm sure some of the solutions you come up in terms of structure and serviceability will be equally innovative.

[@DonFarmer-hq5sw]

The weight you’ve added will stiffen her hull which will make her sail faster than she was before surgery. 😊

[@dukeallen6562]

As a Canadian, I like the way you explain things. You two speak very well. You can hear the love and kindness. I very much joy your channel. Thank you, Duke.

[@flyingcheff]

2000 kg is TWO tons. Helpful info in this video, and it makes sense. Well done 👏

[@DavidSteffensen]

"Thinking is difficult, that’s why most people judge." - Carl Jung

[@Winging-it-1000]

I hope to see the return of the chalk board! Love the adventure and the rebuild and the channel and you guys! Rock on!

[@kirenireves]

Voting for the chalkboard as well!

[@douglascampbell9809]

Should be easy since it's just paint.

[@bruceb.harrison3470]

Fascinating! I really enjoy the way you think and your explanations are so clear. Thank you for all your content!

[@LostYogi]

My guess is Uma will slim down by at least 500kg when you ditch all the stuff from the V-berth, the storm anchor, the generator and gas for that, extra water, the wood and fireplace, tools, and build lighter furniture and it might be closer to 1ton lighter!

[@nielsdebakker3283]

As this is an displacement hull sailboat that does not necessarily have to be a good thing. It can get slower caused by the shorter waterline. (and have harsher movement is rough seas.)

[@vynleshmynle7372]

With regards to weight, you may require additional ballast

[@chublez]

@@nielsdebakker3283 Indeed. The good thing if they find themselves too light( I doubt it) is they can choose to add ballast right where they want it nice and low.

[@brendariley8982]

This was great information, thank you so much for taking the time to explain all of this and posting. I truly appreciate you both.

[@athuddriver]

I don't or won't ever sail since I'm nearly 70 and get sea sick easily. LOL I traveled 9 years in a motorhome and got interested in the technical similarities as I followed the Wynns transition from RV to boat life. I vicariously sail as I subscribe to (too) many boater sites. Your site has become my favorite. This episode just engages the techie in me. It was really well done and easy to grasp the concepts you touched on. I've enjoyed past issues about demo, reglassing and such. I'm actually excited to see the future episodes as you continue the refurb. Looking forward to when you can float it (the beginning of the end?) and when you can cruise it. BE WELL!

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

I have been living on wheels since around 1991 and am also seasick-prone. I watch this channel (and others) to keep the dream alive.

[@SGo-ck5op]

You knocked it out of the park with this video. Verry interesting: congratulations.

[@orion_13]

The wood discussion and stove made me appreciate the 20 acres of trees I harvest out of. 90% of it is red oak. The other 10% is softer Maple and Gum with limited yellow pine. I don't cut the pine, if it drops limbs I will use it as kindling. But as a home builder, retired, we did consider weight all the time. Hot water tanks, stairs, refrigerator, 2nd story load transfers to the foundation were all considerations. One thing most people overlook is the weight of books in bookcases. If seen bookcases break 2x10 floor joist. So we don't worry about total house weight, true, we do consider getting that weight on a solid foundation.

[@jannepeltonen2036]

Oh yes. I have a large library. I have only had to move it a few times in my life. But that's enough to know *intimately* how much books weigh :D

[@brucemckelvy9920]

Very thorough and well thought out choices you two are making. Very impressed.

[@gsh341]

Great video! You gave logical reasoned answers to the various questions that everyone could understand. I'm actually excited to see the finished result and see how much better Uma sails.

[@JanisTilyard]

Loving watching what you do with Uma. I trust you to know what you’re doing as you seek advice and work out YOUR needs. 🙌🙌🙌

[@MNCO1]

Great video. Love the progress. Do what you love 😊

[@kernonmingo744]

Great insight and info. Love you guys!

[@donaldholman9070]

Thank you for doing this. You both are so patient with us.

[@kirenireves]

Yes, thanks for not reacting with anger or frustration over every comment that questions something you're doing. Some commenters are less tactful, but we are all curious. Some YT sailors take everything as an ad hominem attack on everything they've ever done. Jeesh.

[@user-bg5jy4xu5z]

Very interesting and informative discussion. Thanks!

[@johneriksen5504]

Another excellent discussion that provides training while answering the questions. Something that your channel features. Thanks

[@alleycat5472]

Nicely done. Thanks for the update. :)

[@kennethainley5254]

Well done! Lots of really good information.

[@nickruiz7608]

Thank u both, for being who you is, consistent, entertaining, transparent and positive! Kika you have definitely evolved on your editing! Keep up the great job! Love you two! ❤❤🎉🎉😊

[@jazz1on]

Awesome start to the rebuild of UMA. You two have the plan and skills to achieve. Have fun ! ;)

[@lets_go_see_]

i watched and listened to your entire video. The two of you have really learned a lot over ten years and accomplished so much. i do not think you could top your journeys but then again, who needs to. Seeing the finished work you are doing will be something. Ttfn

[@philipwilkie3239]

Long time follower - right from your first episode. Excellent and rational conversation - it's astonishing just how much stuff accumulates and this is the big opportunity to make a useful difference. And comfort directly relates to endurance - it's the crew who always give up before the boat does.

[@rayeccles9922]

Thank you for all you do! Me and mine love your videos!!!

[@PhillipMichaels_RPM3]

As always, I did enjoy hearing about and understanding the details of the decisions you've made. I don't have a boat, but after watching you guys week after week for years, I see my little house and the decisions I have to take to make her run in terms of a landbound Uma. Thank you for sharing the journey!

[@elgar104]

Great video. There are so many people out there with uncredentialed opinions. I wish they'd keep them to themselves. Over the years we have learnt how careful you guys are and how thoughtful. I come here to learn. And you never let me down. Thank you.

[@thomaswall4285]

Thanks for sharing and all your hard work :)

[@Greyskyy151]

I am used to a Carroll Marine 1D35 so with your boat exactly like this it feels like im looking at the inside of the 1D35. Good Time! Great boat! Thanks for the Content!

[@nancyaubel4207]

I love your videos. I learn so much. I am not a sailor but love the water and all water craft have always intrigued me. Keep up the great work you are doing.

[@davidhauge5706]

Thank you for taking me through your thought processes. I can't tell you why you have been able to hold my interest for as long as you have been doing this, but it's working

[@buckroberts4876]

Thanks for the detail in your rebuild approach. As fellow boat geeks, can’t wait to see the results. So enjoying your journey, so much so that we bought a little trailer sailer to have our own journey. You guys are the age of our kids, and want to encourage you that you are inspiring older folks like us!

[@miatamt]

You guys are an inspiration for some many sailors its really nice seeing you guys keeping the boat and makeing what you want

[@charliemcgrain]

After all of these years watching you guys I am most impressed with how good a "team" you guys are.

[@gaiabreeze]

It's all so fascinating. I don't have a clue about sailing but I love all the logic that goes into your decisions😊

[@papa.mike01]

Love you guys and I love Uma. you really seem to be heading in a well planned direction. You should be proud of yourself. ✌️

[@antc5010]

You guys have it nailed! Well considered and explained, especially the slider description. One added benefit is safety with your specific waterproof bulkheads which are well epoxied to the hull. Thanks for sharing.

[@i_am_am_i]

Super excited to see the new layout inside! ❤

[@corujariousa]

Accumulating renovation materials ahead was very smart from both of you. Congrats and good luck with the hard-work.

[@Lio-OG]

Man, I can't wait for the next episode !

[@MarkBlance]

Excellent video. Thank you for the explanations and it's been really cool to watch this process. From other sail boat channels I've seen that a little extra weight can aid in the comfort by carrying momentum through a wave. Where a lighter boat slows down with every wave and can make the passage difficult to endure.

[@JheregJAB]

Was kinda cool to see my comment made it into a video! :D I was thinking that most of what was in the boat would go back into it when you are done, but it sounds like you're planning to leave an awful lot of it behind, and otherwise _are_ keeping weight (and trim) in mind when selecting materials for the interior. Totally agree with your assertion that its a cruising boat and it doesn't make sense to save every gram; just also don't want it to go too far the other way. You've obviously got a handle on it, consider my fears relieved! :) Thanks for sharing your thoughts! P.S. Super excited for the discussion on possible synthetic rigging when you get there.

[@markenna5955]

Great advice, thank you.

[@anthonyparker6826]

many enjoyable vids guys, but this really gets gets down to the bare bones and illustrates the process of customization, you know! and more to the point are very experienced!

[@iamgcase]

Bravo! Interesting, informative, and appreciated! Thx!,

[@matrixmike4089]

Very interesting considerations, good luck!

[@RalfAbbt]

Nice and informative to listen to you. Thanx.

[@esquire9445]

I really love how you guys have all the energy, imagination, design ability…etc… to actually tear it apart and rebuild it multiple times…

[@jessgalloway7678]

This was a wonderful explanation of how you see the way forward.

[@carltonbirds]

Very lovely explaining.

[@aussienomaddestinations]

I love that you are renoing Uma, she will be unique in every detail,

[@beverlyaslett7871]

I’m very pleased you are keeping uma and because you both are architects and have sailed many years, it will be fun to find new interior ways to design yet keep the hull design intact.

[@rboston33]

Absolutely love you guys

[@1Wilful]

That was very informative thank you. Absolutely no need to be defensive about your choices, it's plainly all well thought out.

[@holyngrace7806]

Thanks, folks, this is really useful to hear.

[@Prel8]

Informative and educational. It seems like a well thought out project. Uma will last a long time under your care.

[@MrJerobona]

Great answers!

[@mikequinlan9585]

I really enjoyed this video, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree with your assessment on weight on cursing yachts.

[@jimfisk4474]

Hi dan and kika, So many things involved with cruising But if you know what you're doing it sure is a lot easier. Can't wait for you to get the bottom half done and then Start on the top Half. I really enjoy watching And neat how you both work together so good. Thanks so much and look forward to next weekend❤❤❤

[@salisbury1944]

Most interesting and informative - EXACTLY what I expected from you! Been following you from day one. Greetings from an "Armchair sailer", Gothenburg, Sweden

[@dominicdussault95]

love those vids, nice tu be back to building vlogs :p

[@bscorax]

Well - I just enjoy to listen to you talking. :D Plus it all makes absolutely sense.

[@myogart]

it'll be very interesting to watch your take on synthetic rigging; something I've been contemplating as well.

[@glencrandall7051]

Lots of decisions to make. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂

[@c.a.mcneil7599]

Great job on thought process

[@MonikaMatis]

nice break for me still buillding our boat... Good job

[@mmacas7411]

Really informative episode also for boat owners, since we are never at the “clean slate” situation like you guys. Love this stage, but of course root for you to finish soon and get her sailing. 😊

[@JCJC650]

For heating / cooling you could get a small boat heat pump ac/heater. Should be much more efficient than resistive heat.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

There is no amount of money that cannot be spent on a boat refit. Everything is a compromise. Their are an amazing amount of choices to heat/cool a boat...only some of them are remotely affordable. I love having a heat pump for nearly trouble-free "day to day:" climate control yet would never give up my "dwarf 3K" solid-fuel stove from the tiny woodstove company. I collect small pieces of wood every day like others might look for shells or sea glass. When the mood strikes...I light a fire. It is supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

[@matteframe]

gonna be so interesting see you guys sail her when this is all done... will be a totally different experience

[@mtm101designs9]

Over 3 years of sailing from L. Ontario to the Bahamas I loaded my boat down enough that I went from passing most other sailboat to being passed. You are making the right decisions with the diet.

[@norman4991]

Very interesting, thank you.

[@sjurgabriel]

Lovely to hear your thoughts on this aspect of the rebuild. 🙂

[@johnday4388]

You guys are smart and experienced you clearly do your home work. Follow your heads and hearts it will all work out well.

[@robertfontaine3650]

Reaching the point of thinking about what is going into the boat has to be a nice feeling. Looking forward to it all coming together.

[@johnmooney2411]

Thanks for another great video about your process. Your design training is shining through in your appreciation of all design being a series of compromises, and you explanation of the relative importance of weight in racing and cruising boats is spot on and well done. As you observed, it's likely to be far more important how you distribute the weight you put back in than how the raw numbers compare with what you took out (on that front, great idea to move the batteries over the keel, where they'll be working for you rather than against you in controlling pitching moments). I have two respectful suggestions for you (both of which you've probably thought of already, but just in case). First, if you're getting charged by the kilo for throwing stuff out, see if you can get an accurate weight of the garbage bags, so you can use that as a partial measure of how much weight she's lost. Second is a respectful suggestion about where NOT to save weight. I wholeheartedly agree with your decision to use plywood instead of laminated foam cores, but I couldn't help smiling that you guys did your entire presentation in front of a plywood bulkhead that appears to be uncovered by any coating at all. I'm sure you're way ahead of me here, but speaking as someone who has spent too much time digging punky plywood out of dark boat corners, I have to say PLEASE don't leave it (or any other covered wood) uncoated. When you're done with this project, I'll bet you'll have a boat that's stiff, strong, safe, comfortable, and considerably faster, than the one Bill Shaw designed, if you balance her right. It's great fun following your work, and I have enormous respect for how you're conducting it, but it would be a heartbreaker to have to redo a big chunk of it in a few years because water penetration has turned some critical parts to mush. Again, thanks for your inspiring videos, and best of luck with your rebuild!

[@shanefiddle]

Thanks for the discussion! Very interesting for anyone interested in the ins and outs of cruising sailboats...

[@allenclark1914]

You certainly explain the weight amount and distribution of the weight very well. I am not a sailor , however weight vs power is applicable in many different types of sports. Thank you for another great video. You both are awesome, I for one am anxious to see your build and design decisions.Love your videos.❤

[@ERo1972]

Love the use of kg in your explanations being that I live in Australia. ❤ So love your process guys and looking forward to seeing uma come back life.

[@DeepThought9999]

Agree! Even though I am old enough to remember ounces, pounds, stones and tons (and pounds, shillings, pence, ha’pennies and farthings not to mention rods, poles and perches or chains, furlongs, miles, knots and all the rest) and the painful mental gymnastics required to calculate using those measures, I am so grateful that Dan expressed almost everything in the much easier to work-with metric measurements. If only the USA and the other 2 nations (and a half - UK I’m looking at you too, regarding that piecemeal and unecessarily slow conversion) using those horrible old measures would grow some balls and convert (fully).

[@navysailor2553]

Sound like you are on top of things. Love to see UMA 2.0 in the water!

[@rolanddunk5054]

Hi,thank you for a very informative and interesting video,it gives one some insight as to what is happening while the refit goes on.🇬🇧.

[@keithh3463]

Your boat is going to sail amazing!

[@mikefox1332]

I have followed you guys from the beginning. Some of your followers may not know, you are both engineers. I found this episode very interesting and ent. So, thanks!!😍

[@jimtroyer1804]

Architects are not engineers. When my daughter went to the Uni for advising, I tagged along. While they were chatting, I was reviewing the curriculum. I asked, "Where is all the math?". The answer was basically, the engineers do all that stuff, we make the design, and they have to make it work. My daughter has an engineering degree, not an architecture degree, and the financial rewards are significantly different.

[@edwardfinn4141]

Have you considered storing the chain rode at the base of the mast? As you know that will help the dynamic stability of the boat

[@bobgutgsell1009]

I think you have this under control, Yep I am sure of it. Thanks for sharing your story and life. ⚓

[@JakobEngl]

great video

[@georgesheller6054]

Thanks, I’ve been wondering about the weight and balance issues. Seems like you have it well in hand.

[@rorychivers8769]

I'm so excited to see you two rebuild the interior of the boat from scratch, this is the KZbin Content I live for, I'm as transfixed as a dog usually is when you start digging a hole in the ground