Let's Talk About Legion.

[@LanterneRougeCycling]

Keep doing what you do Jeff! So many people have learned about racing through your videos over the years 👊

[@conorm121]

When Laterne’s got your back you know you’re in the right 👊

[@Stealthwealth1001]

It seems to me Legion are only focused on making a living off of their brand promotion. Any criticism to the brand is bad for them. They are getting a shit ton of publicity, notoriety, and 💰 from Zwift. I would love to see legion enter a team against top Zwift racing amateurs and get humiliated by Olympic rowers, and amateurs who won pro contracts.

[@skeetbeetz]

letss gooooooooo LR!

[@nguyenho9591]

@@Stealthwealth1001 Zwift is no longer Legion sponsor

[@dave12059]

I’m a long way from being in the mist of top cycling. And was wondering a couple nights ago if this mess of not paying out all the winners was corrected. Seems not! Also seems tacky to pay out to legion and not the others. Guess old saying is correct, money controls the ones with their hands on the most. I also think it’s poor that they are not paying out just because the Europeans do not. Just isn’t right to not pay out as teams were led to believe. The money should be in a bank before the race. If not don’t race, for money anyway

[@chrisfoglesong2017]

I’ll take NorCal Cycling content over Legion’s content any day of the week.

[@_cpdchua]

Amen to that brother

[@jeremysweeten2792]

Amen. Lamest KZbin channel ever for "pros." Phoning it in every single time.

[@chrisko6439]

Legion is creating content? Never seen any of it and I don't plan to.

[@birkhansen8210]

@@chrisko6439 me neither 🤣

[@titomon]

All day!

[@tolulopeobe]

“We are grown as men wearing Lycra, racing bicycles…” I think that about sums it all up- it’s about fun!

[@crbondur]

Amen!

[@jimmynickelz]

PREACH!!

[@ConstantRider]

Chapeau!

[@sirdmayo]

I'm just totally disappointed in Legion. So so sad!!! Looking like this ego and pride will bring about their downfall.

[@luri3377]

This need to be a merch T-shirt print! 😂

[@joelederer]

Used to be a fan of Legion, but more and more, I'm beginning to reevaluate that stance. They're not doing themselves any favors by not being able to handle even mild criticism,

[@andymitchell2146]

Exactly the same. Always heard and seen the positives they bring to the sport, but this crap recently is just a bad look.

[@JonnyInToronto]

Same here… enough said.

[@GoonieGooGoo910]

same

[@clutchctrl]

Honestly feeling the same. It's hard to take them seriously anymore.

[@davidcuellarjustiniano1341]

Same here, and they talk about inclusion

[@nemixCOD]

The fact that this video even needs to be made, says a lot. Goes to show what money and ego does to people. Stay humble Jeff and EJ, you guys are the real ambassadors of cycling.

[@MichaelIhde69]

Justin’s being a hater, plain and simple. Talent and a good resume doesn’t mean bad sportsmanship can be excused.

[@hic73]

Justin Williams is a FAILED professional cyclist. He didn't succeed at the Pro Tour level and rather than learning from that experience he claims lack of diversity (aka racism) as the problem. Just because he dominates the pro criterium scene in America doesn't mean he is the top dawg. I would like to see this dominance carry over to other disciplines of cycling that doesn't involve sprinting. If he and Legion can't do that then they aren't exactly doing much. Sorry. He's just an angry black man is all I see from his "beef" with everyone.

[@tds397]

@Khoa Tran Bro you spoke facts, this pretty much sums it up. A loser with inferiority complex...it's just sad 🤡

[@tylerdesrosiers]

100%

[@MichaelIhde69]

@@hic73 you have valid points, however I do think this is mostly a white dominated sport. But if Justin is making this about race then he’s fled from all reason… unless he means bike race lol

[@highflyin99]

@@hic73 I seriously doubt you have any real insight into whether or not Justin's lying about his experience at the Pro Tour level. Just because he may be acting like an ass in this instance doesn't mean that he couldn't have gotten screwed out of a pro career due to his melanin content. And I'm not saying that he did, either, just that you can't dismiss it out of hand just because you don't want to believe that it does happen to people still.

[@Michael_Lechner]

You're the best, Jeff! Absolute horrible take by Justin here, not sure why he's so butt hurt. Legion loves to dish it out, but yet can't take an ounce of it, even when it's constructive!

[@kbar5821]

How big of an ass do you have to be to get into a public beef with Jeff? Literally one of the nicest people in the sport and a wonderful ambassador to the public. I would suggest that Justin spend less time on Insta and more time figuring out how to pay the people who are owed money by his team.

[@ConstantRider]

🔥🔥 BUURRRRNnnnnn! 🤣

[@LuisPG92]

The Lamborghini he drive around California would do the trick 😂

[@MattQ1987]

My man spitting facts 💯

[@bosox801]

@@LuisPG92 you know that shits rented or borrowed right, a typical influencer move at best.

[@mrvwbug4423]

@@bosox801 That's what I figured. You normally have to be winning grand tours to see that kind of money in pro cycling.

[@christianthompson1393]

Matteo Jorgensen and Neilson Powless are the Nation’s current #1 and #2 Beasts

[@BryceBreslin]

+ son of Durango Sepp Kuss, + Ayesha McGowan, + Brandon McNulty, + Megan Jastrab

[@JP84x18]

Don’t disrespect Quinn Simmons like that

[@ThomasDaley100]

you mean the ones on the world tour? how many Mendocino Crits have they won tho lol

[@Jackgoo]

@@ThomasDaley100 thats the point, real top dogs arent doing crit racing

[@ThomasDaley100]

@@Jackgoo THAT'S THE JOKE "municipality's number 1 beast"

[@cyclinginsoutherncalifornia]

Your greatest gift isn’t that you beat another guy on a weekend race, it’s the gift you gave EJ. That you motivated another guy to get on a bike, get healthy and have a great time cycling. Whether you or he wins a national title in the USA, isn’t going to make you rich. The influence you have is your greatest gift. Just like two men arguing over a parking space (Seinfeld reference) it doesn’t matter… if some dude in SoCal wants to flex his muscles, fine. This ain’t the Giro, the Tour, etc so keep your eye on the pulse of what matters. Thanks for making great content. This too shall pass

[@NorCalCycling]

Thank you!

[@DC-lu5qs]

well said!!!

[@stephen_101]

Justin really needs to remember this phrase: Humility protects from humiliation

[@HoldenDoesBikeStuff]

I need to remember this too. Thanks man

[@brianwright9514]

After seeing Legion try to get into a fight with a dude that they crashed out, i lost a lot of respect for them. Trying to bash Jeff isn't helping their case

[@shaunb93291]

At least get the story straight before you comment. That’s not how it went down

[@fatchance1973]

@@shaunb93291 , I think that was with Mike Hernandez from last year. If you watch the after race video, one of the William's brother pushed/instigated the physical confrontation.

[@ChiTownBrownie89]

@@shaunb93291 we arent talking about the incident from a week ago

[@evantaylor521]

​@@ChiTownBrownie89 more than one incident? 😂

[@shaunb93291]

@@fatchance1973 no shit Sherlock. Hernandez dive bombed the corner and hit Cory. He started the fight. I believe Justin jumped in the fray. But yeah facts matter.

[@HoldenDoesBikeStuff]

ALL of Legions missteps are public. What is his endgame of getting pissed off at Jeff? Insecure or made their legacy is trash?

[@LuisPG92]

Remember when Lance will just spit venom at anybody that would dare to say something about him? The same thing is happening with the Williams. The fame got to their heads that’s all.

[@abuckeye26]

​@@LuisPG92 let's not compare a rider that's really only known around California or on KZbin to the most popular and well known cyclist in the world of all time 😂

[@Ciupremo]

@@abuckeye26 *_coughing in Mercatone Uno Jersey_*

[@00Accord4cyl]

Classic narcissist traits

[@ntnb1634]

@@abuckeye26 most popular in the world .... their are just popular in america

[@skeetbeetz]

It just speaks to Justin Williams maturity level 🤡Can't take legitimate constructive criticism. Amazing episode with Nero. Loving the content on the channel keep doing what your doing!

[@adamjd7645]

Yep. If you're going to claim "pro" status, you gotta behave like it. Petulant childish tantrum.

[@00Accord4cyl]

Justin is as good at racing as he is at being immature and unprofessional

[@blaquaman1739]

You guys either don’t understand shit talking in sports, or you’re selectively criticizing legion for obvious reasons. They are young and beating everybody, they don’t need to change a thing.

[@MattQ1987]

​@@blaquaman1739 ahhhh... found a Legion fan boy

[@vavooooooooooom]

@@blaquaman1739hey can talk shit but others cannot criticize? How is that for being selective?

[@polar898989]

I don't follow US domestic cycling, but if these Legion / Williams guys are so good why don't they go race and win in Europe? Seems like they're happier being big fish in a very small pond, which feels like sandbagging to me.

[@wxquik8668]

They cant go over a 2hour effort

[@entombed_kills]

@@wxquik8668 this is clearly Pro level

[@Ciupremo]

Because in Europe it's waaaaay harder to win even a local race, not to mention a National...

[@Omnis2]

You want to help raise the money to send a team to a whole different continent? Come on man.

[@geraldtone5914]

Because that's not their area. They are crit racers and have built a following and reputation from doing it. As long as they only claim to be the best crit racers, there is nothing wrong with them only racing crits.

[@travis9907]

You and EJ are absolutely the best thing going in USA cycling right now. Your positivity is infectious and is desperately needed in road cycling. Keep taking the high road!

[@nothanks800]

Legion comes across as bullies. It's seemed that way for a while.

[@mikegordon2554]

It only make sense since Justin Williams is sponsored by Red Bull….

[@nothanks800]

@@mikegordon2554 😅

[@colw07]

They are bullies. Always have been.

[@dutypaidrock]

Honestly, the more I hear about this Legion team, the more it begins to sound like a sort of cycling mafioso. Do and race as we tell you or you'll be sorry. Shame, because I liked the inital ethos and purpose, but as with all groups that get a bit too powerful for their own good...

[@adamjd7645]

Definitely seemed to turn toxic & I think Jeff is very generous continuing to offer the olive branch that they are "a force for good."

[@DarynRod]

Agreed. Im just getting into the more serious end of the sport and at first I thought they were one of the coolest orgs going... but them more time passes, the lower on the list they get. But hey, Im just a 220 pound potato in Texas...

[@FlyingPastilla]

This ain't it. People who are so vocal about their values of inclusion and making a change are usually the worse people. Every single time I have seen someone signal virtue this way it was so they can push a narrative justifying negative behavior. L39ion is just a bunch of dudes egotripping on sponsor money

[@rieckstudio]

Legion will find the deck. They better pay extra care of their front wheel

[@404nobrakes]

This has been well known to people who actually race them for a very long time. People are just afraid to say anything publicly because they instantly get labeled as racist haters.

[@adamjd7645]

You are far more of a gentleman than I & far more generous to Legion than I would be. Legion are rapidly turning into toxic gatekeepers with a chip on their shoulder. But I guess it's easier to beat up on the local scene as "pros" instead of actually putting their money where their mouths are & racing the real pros. 🤷‍♂️

[@cjohnson3836]

They aren't even gatekeepers. The best US racers are 1) on World Tour teams in Europe or 2) racing in gravel/mtb for the life time grand prix. These pricks are ultimately irrelevant to cycling at large, in the US or otherwise.

[@belarusian8380]

Hi Justin 👋 I hope you read all these comments. Time to grow up buddy!!

[@joshpower1073]

Legion are toxic af

[@joshpower1073]

I don't consider them a Pro team, they need their conti license removed. They don't race any of the events over seas that conti teams should, just regional and national races

[@Nathan-1234]

from what I have seen of them they appear to pretty much be bullies on the track

[@adamjd7645]

​@@Nathan-1234 This is what happens when you spend too long sniffing your own farts. Legion need a cultural reset.

[@tonynguyen2330]

Knew it'll come when you start talked about Legion, they will defend like you stepped on their foot. Don't back down Jeff...

[@outlawburgerontheloose]

Jeff being the bigger man and releasing quality content which helps us non pros

[@echtogammut]

I just finished watching the Chris Miller show and this popped up. Justin has always had a chip on his shoulder and he's used it effectively to drive his races. He has been a force that has attracted a lot of new people to the sport, but personally he needs to work on issues. You've been polite and correct, Justin needs to eat crow and grow up.

[@flipboifine]

This video is equivalent to Jeff beating Justin to the last corner into the finish from the sheeecayne!

[@tulgabayasgalan3730]

Please continue doing what you do for the cycling fans!

[@NorCalCycling]

Always!

[@Laf-Adventures]

I've been saying it since Legion became the power house they are considered to be, they are a low brow team. They race dirty and aggressive, they bring a physical aspect to a whole new dimension. I'm not surprised to see them respond childishly when they can't even race with maturity in the first place.

[@uncleyemen]

I was literally just watching the segment from the Nero Show where y'all were talking about the Legion crash, so this is perfect timing. Can't get enough of the cycling drama XD

[@evanc.694]

Man I love how you addressed this. So respectful

[@NorCalCycling]

Thank you!!

[@patrickmcgrath4273]

I am racing my first ever bike race this weekend because of your channel

[@NorCalCycling]

Stoked to hear this, good luck!

[@ljmeyerlj]

Big respect for you Jeff. Love your content and the positive, insightful vibes you bring to the sport!

[@ColeTrain_0]

Jeff is the best. No one else would of tried to squash this like he did.

[@lusiiiman]

Jeff, I hope you get to read this! you're the reason I actually got interested in crit racing.

[@NorCalCycling]

I'm here for it! Best of luck 💪

[@671james]

Looked up to Legion because of your comments about how good they are. Not anymore because of justin’s silliness.

[@MattQ1987]

Jeff, I've learned so much about bike racing from you over the past two years. You are genuinely a nice guy and a great ambassador to the sport and cycling community.

[@StudyMD]

Loved Legion's branding, never liked how cocky they were. They sound so entitled. Jeff laying some solid facts, and you're the guy I look up to in terms of cycling not Legion. Thanks for always being so great, what a mature response you gave!

[@MrMattie725]

"Go Pro's will be rolling, haha" "But for real though...I'll have footage if you try to harm me"

[@okayest_amateur]

Thankyou Jeff for being the grownup in the room. Doing your part to make peace and taking the high road. I agree with everything your saying. Keep up the good work. Unfortunately there are some cyclists, amateur or pro who have too large an ego for themselves and don't really hear how they sound to the rest of the world.

[@buzzman4860]

Kudos to Rapha and Specialized for enabling a narcissist

[@michaeldance5734]

If i was a sponsor of legion I would be having words. What a big baby Williams is.

[@switchbackjunkie1]

Getting some serious Lance Armstrong/Postal vibes off of legion

[@LuisPG92]

Williams posts on social media game the vibes of that picture of lance staring at his wall with the yellow jerseys.

[@cadumgarcia]

Don't please, Lance talked shit to the best, Legion shits on dentists on crits 😂

[@daryl4841]

Legion doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Postal. Might as well compare some local garage band to a band who sold out arenas around the world. Legion are basically nobodies.

[@nichelasgarcia2676]

At least they were pros

[@BlueJayGer]

Thanks for putting this out. I hope you guys can have resolve this peacefully and perhaps have a public conversation addressing these issues/ criticisms in a safe space for each of you

[@ariffau]

I’m a teacher and teach for a living because I believe in the path. Teach. Guide. Educate. Inform. Expose. When it comes to cycling, it’s mostly a hobby and I have to say it, NorCal did soooooo much more than Legion ever did when it comes to guiding and promoting the sport. At least that’s from my point of view. Argument: Have Legion ever did a video like “How To Ride Your First Crit” on KZbin or something? Not that I am aware of or at least have access to. That’s another form of “gatekeeping” which NorCal Cycling doesn’t do. The only time they ‘educate’ is when they lost a race telling other people to hold their line or something which is more like whining than anything else. 😅 I am with NorCal on this one.

[@StarryNight007]

Legion loves to dish it out, and have that, if you're not with us your against us mentality. But the moment they receive constructive criticism they get all defensive. The two Willams brother have mad talent and are experts in crit races, here in the US! No one is saying otherwise.. but let's be gentlemen and civilized in this beautiful sport of ours. Dedicate yourselves more to the sport Legion, and learn some humility, you'll go further I promise you. Great work like always Jeff!!

[@4sharegreg4]

Ive gained valuble info from you guys. Appreciate this channel. This whole Discussion is over if they havent paid prize pools in over a year. They are projecting and its textbook

[@LuisPG92]

The Lamborghini that legión drive around California was not cheap 😂 I guess it was all a show

[@TheSaderday]

Norcal for the win!

[@nickcoulter973]

I've been leary of Legion for a long time. Their hostility to individual racers in their own videos is a bad look. They act like they are going to battle instead of putting on tight pants and spinning pedals. They bully other riders off of their lines with shouting and screaming like they own the exclusive right to race tactically. Meanwhile, everyone is fawning over them and ignoring the shady stuff because they get a new demographic riding. By all means call them out, so someone who treats the sport with respect can take the reigns and teach the people they are exposing to riding that it should be fun, first and foremost. There is a reason that Justin couldn't get along with his housemates in Europe. It's because he is hard to get along with and his personal narrative is bull. I'm sure a few people understand which interview I am referencing here.

[@danielbarcelo3059]

Is there any way you can link the interview you are talking about? Would love to watch! Thanks!

[@ChiTownBrownie89]

If you ask him you know what he claims as to why he couldnt get along with them. Now we are seeing the real side of things.

[@worldofjorgeg6039]

If only we knew the other side of the story from the housemates in Europe.

[@ronm9357]

"New demographic"🤣 Your demographic is well versed in concealing their hatred.

[@nickcoulter973]

@@ronm9357 What is the basis for your comment?

[@jkelleypga]

At legion we promote diversity and inclusion...as long as you agree with (1) the way we race (2) only pros are allowed to comment on racing analysis b/c we know best (3) you never mention anything about us not paying out racers when we're brand promoters.

[@2darkdragon]

who is you

[@belarusian8380]

@J Nicely said!

[@HeavensentGojo]

Undercover legion member 😂😂

[@tds397]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DecentGatsby]

“Acknowledge that crits are a contact sport”

[@ca8746]

Cycling kept me going during the lockdowns. Jeff your show was part of the inspiration I needed to push harder on my rides. You're a class act! Don't stop being you.

[@Niggoification]

Spoken like a true professional. I hope Legion steps up and matches the energy

[@blaquaman1739]

Seems like the other teams need to step up tho yeah 🤔

[@kubackjeee]

Can't expect class from ghetto mentality people

[@aiarta2280]

@@blaquaman1739 You literally say that you just support all black athletes regardless and say stuff like ´here first´. Identitarian, useful idiot. Stay away from Europe.

[@MeiMeiDoggy]

I love how honest you are. Don’t let them stop you from speaking your opinion!

[@RajczakMichal]

Hi Jeff. I think that you can't even imagine how much good you are doing for the cycling and some amateur cyclists community. I am from Poland, always been a "solo" rider, doing some 100km road bike trips to keep fit and healthy. Thanks to you I was willing to give a second chance to local group rides and to rediscover the passion for cycling. I watched a ton of your movies, listened to your advices and although I rarely race, my riding style has improved a lot. Sometimes I find myself hearing your voice before the corner mentioning the positioning and keeping the momentum etc. There are many different channels on YT focusing on different aspects of cycling (technology, racing, Zwift etc.), but you have a special place, next to mentioned LR bringing the cycling closer to normal people, showing different POV than in TV and making us (at least me) think differently about the sport that we all love. God bless you! Keep up the great work and continue with the way you have taken.

[@GFelx]

Funny! As a noob, I learned about cycling and Legion THROUGH NorCal Cycling 😂

[@RealShkillz]

A lot of smack talk from a guy that was suspended 5 months for fighting people after a race (Justin). Glad you did the Nero show podcast Jeff, loved hearing your insights, was a great listen. Unfortunate you have to defend yourself after the fact here.

[@JP-om3ou]

Thoughtful, constructive, and positive. Excellent response Jeff, this is how it’s done

[@ryanpowell6244]

His Cat 3 comment, I think was directed right at EJ. Which is even more uncalled for. Give EJ 2 more years and Justin will have to watch his back.

[@NorCalCycling]

💪

[@GreyandPatina]

Have learned so much watching you and EJ’s post race analysis. Thank you for making such great content. You and @vegancyclist are my favorite cycling channels on youtube

[@GFelx]

Yeeugh🤙

[@DoctorWho_1979]

I didn't know about crit racing before I found NorCal Cycling. I just happened to find one of your video series comparing aero wheels when I was contemplating upgrading my stock wheels. Those few wheel test/review videos let me to your crit racing discussions, EJ's "Couch to Crit" series and now I'm hooked. Not sure I will ever race, but I love learning about and watching the sport. Especially on your channel. Keep up the awesome content and welcoming approach you take to the sport. It truly is bringing new people into the sport. ;)

[@christianthompson1393]

Legion is a team of bullies, on the road and on social media

[@noobnorc993]

You are absolutly right! Legion here in europe would finish last in every Race, they win against amateurs

[@geraldtone5914]

So they are the best in North America and have to leave the continent to find adequate competition?

[@noobnorc993]

@@geraldtone5914 yes, if they raced against ineos, or even a second tier european team they would finish last

[@noobnorc993]

@@geraldtone5914 in the us there is no real competition

[@LuisPG92]

@@geraldtone5914 there is no road scene in the US. Just gravel. Legión is the only multi million dollar team sponsor by the biggest brands to bring inclusion to the sport.

[@MiguelAugusto1982]

@João Almeida I'm rooting for you in the Giro!!! 😂😁🇵🇹👍🏻

[@junksmiles]

Jeff, I love everything you're doing. Great response from an adult. Cheers.

[@k2l11]

Rarely comment but I love this sport more and more because of your inspiring and fun videos. Please keep going and know to stand your ground and that your humility outshines these negative comments you may receive.

[@smt76_]

This was really embarrassing lol, glad you are addressing it

[@flipboifine]

It’s about to go down! #teamJeff

[@39bailey]

Honestly pretty disappointing to see, little too much ego from Justin.

[@jrh1704]

Meanwhile in Italy Pogacar- "Who the fuck is Justin Williams?"

[@ErickGonzalesF]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@LuisPG92]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@supersixmikeohimod]

Im sure this is the same reaction for 80% of the peloton.

[@motostarmx1777]

exactly..id love to see these crit guys go into one stage of a big race...humble pie anyone???

[@aiarta2280]

Literally no one knows these dudes in Europe. Seriously. And if they do, not in a good way. Ego-driven social media and identitarian DiVerSitY doesnt work here. ESPECIALLY not in sports.

[@LD-bv1pm]

How to respond to a bully. Well done. You showed intelligence, calmness and humility.

[@dennishopp7071]

100% agree on all of what you pointed out Jeff. I support what you are doing and you have a lot of respect from all of your fans. Keep up the great content! See you at Alviso!

[@dillcat09]

Subscribed! Thanks for the friendly and informative content NorCal the attitude you have is what brings more people into the sport.

[@kho2333]

Good job keeping it classy, Jeff. There are a lot of big egos in this sport. I always appreciate your humble and friendly demeanor. Keep it up.

[@vegandave3309]

After seeing their fighting skills I don’t think you have much to worry about Jeff !

[@snowfan.]

Because of you I wanna start racing!! Keep the hard work Jeff!!

[@salishseacycling]

“Ego over inclusion” should be Legion’s motto. Keep up the great work and keep speaking the truth Jeff.

[@sebway123]

I do always think it's kinda whack that these guys show up as a national level team to lower level "title" events and win them. The prize being, "I beat all of you, who aren't pro, and in a race where I'm not actually eligible for the title." I really looked up to Justin and the whole Legion team while getting into crit racing a few years back. Loved hearing him on Payson's podcast for awhile. Loved what they were doing for the sport and crit racing at scale. Really sours everything whenever I see them get Actually Mad when people have constructive criticism such as, "You should pay out the prize pool from that race you put on".

[@gmen1305]

JEFF- Thanks for bringing this to light for those of us that don't have instagram accounts - you have no need to apologize when what you are saying is your opinion is, the fact they don't like it and feel the need to attack you on social media shows their maturity level - I have not been a fan of L39ION for a few years now after seeing how they race, treat others & this keep reaffirming my decision - but unlike you I will say - L39ION IS BAD FOR THE SPORT, nothing they do is about promoting the sport, they only promote themselves & I wish the sponsors like SRAM, RAPHA, SPECIALIZED, ZWIFT & COMPETITIVE CYCLISTS would take note & drop them. Keep doing what your doing Jeff !!!

[@brianparache292]

When you go to somebody’s Instagram and their comments are limited, it’s safe to say they are probably the ones on the wrong side of the argument.

[@robertbarreiro2640]

Keep on going Jeff, you're a very positive force to the sport and I've learned so much from you. I also believe some guys at Legion's are a little cocky, it happens when you win so much and then adore your own image.

[@DerrickAbucheri]

Jeff, I follow your content from Kenya, Africa. I have learnt a lot ever since i subbed to this channel. Keeo doing what you do Jeff, you're changing lives outside California.

[@spacedisco612]

Great response Jeff, I always appreciate your honesty and openness, "Inclusion"

[@robbchastain3036]

I like your closing point best, Jeff, and this all reminds me of the huge disconnect between BMX riding and BMX racing in the '70s. Like from '72 to late '74 we lived in Pacifica, fun place to ride with friends for hours. Then, for kicks in '79 when I was working in radio in Vallejo, AM station KNBA the Mighty 1190, I competed in several BMX races in the Novice Class at age 19/20 and talk about culture shock, competitors didn't really chat with each other and if you got knocked over in a berm, O well, down you go, not their concern. And then there were parents railing against their kids for losing and that was truly heartbreaking, nothing good could ever come from that. And so now, with these crits, sure, I see the same racing deal, people taking them and themselves way too seriously and leaving the fun and community for someone else to find. And so we have gravel and I am pleased about that. I always was enamored with big off-road races like the Baja 1000. :)

[@mathias8013]

Can’t believe those few comments blew up so much. Keep up the good work Jeff!

[@slyone9119]

Jeff, it’s your OPINION! Everyone’s entitled to one! If you would have said what you did about any other team, you wouldn’t have gotten this “backlash”. I am a fan of Legion, but how soft is it that they can’t take a little professional criticism? You’re not some hater on IG in their comment section, you’re a well respected rider in the cycling community and a phenomenal KZbinr. Keep doing what you’re doing, you really are a force for good in cycling! I always appreciate your insight to races and content!

[@RyanClark1985]

Thank you Jeff! Sad to see the way that a lot of things have gone down recently. Used to be a big Legion fan, big Justin fan, but this is really disappointing.

[@wintergreene795]

I look up to legion. Still do when it comes to talent but maybe I'm not sure about their character anymore. Ive always been a supporter of you Jeff and in behalf of Filipinos we are with you!

[@Gnarlycharlie06]

norcal>legion. learned more from watching race breakdowns over gopro sprint lead outs to mid soundtracks🤣

[@geraldtone5914]

One is a teaching channel the other is not. That's like saying Bill nye over Einstein because I learned more from Bill nye.

[@matthewcertainMD]

Thanks!

[@wangyist]

Great comment Jeff! Very humble and educational, seriously there is hundreds of pro's that can beat that Legion guy with just one leg in a sprint...and I have met so many idiots that think they are so good and racing for the TDF...but fortunately also very good people like you that are more relaxed about the sport. Please just take it easy, it's just a sport....

[@luisakinaga]

We’re with you Jeff, keep going!

[@BezzaDoc]

You are a force for good, and I have much respect for you speaking your mind. Thank you for all you do!

[@andrewgallant7899]

Awesome video Jeff. Way to take the high road.

[@ynotfishing]

I respect how you address this stuff head on, class act. I hope you all can squash it

[@LyfeisByke]

The Eurobike got me hahaha.

[@carlos_g2]

I've been a Legion fan always, idolized them. I've learned more about cycling racing from Jeff (NorCal) than any other "pro" cyclist or media anywhere. He's a cycling personality with a following, he gives great value to the community and good example for young people. Complete opposite attitude from Justin, immature and childish, drama, etc.. opposite from what their thing is all about. Be a positive FORCE for good LEGION!

[@titomon]

Fortunately, I don’t follow Legion on any social media platform. Lol. Someone got way butthurt and thinks he can never go wrong. Insecurity comes out once you get too popular. Keep doing what you are doing Jeff!

[@NorCalCycling]

can't stop won't stop, loving making videos too much!!

[@Tommy-ISHAVEU]

You’re the man Jeff! NorCal Cycling rules!

[@katomiler843]

Keep doing what you’re doing, Jeff, you earned my support a long time ago. I’m not a fan of Legion, and neither are several Rapha employees I know. They don’t appreciate being associated with a team (an individual?) that has been unsafe/should have been DQ’d many times in national events. Sounds like the Mike’s team success is getting under someone’s fragile ego.

[@mrmotomoto]

We’ve all got your back, Jeff!

[@vanakes]

#ridewithnorcal

[@karllove1274]

Gutted you had to defend yourself Jeff. I think what you said was absolutely bang on and it’s disappointing that Legion can’t take a bit of criticism. Your videos have made as much of a contribution to the sport as any pro has and taught me how to bike race so please keep doing what you are doing!

[@dazzawest]

Chris Millers subscriber count about to go through the roof😂