Let's Talk About the Beast Agenda in Wolverine #31

[@BlerdWithoutFear]

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[@jarrodgoforth1257]

I do miss the light hearted version of Beastie

[@devegas4910]

The fact that Beast managed to get this far without facing consequences is a huge failure on the quiet council’s part. And a failure on Jean’s part as well. He shouldn’t have been able to get to this point

[@danielivanov930]

I agree .

[@cliftonhatchett1724]

Beast is one of my favorites. I noticed there is an "Avengers era Beast backup".... That's how they'll "fix" Beast.

[@striderreborn1467]

True, Avengers Era Beast was a bit of a boy scout.

[@YorchPineda]

I Agree

[@makeitthrough_]

So, narratively they're sort of doing a Secret Empire again then. I'm reminded of Lizzie Wizzy's boyfriend trying to use the Arasaka soul backup to alter her personality in Cyberpunk (to stop her from becoming a cyber psycho sure, but the basic concept is terrifying; imagine them replacing anyone they feel has gone a little too far, and that getting out of control. Spider-Man turns on you and starts hanging out with that registration act traitor Captain America? Back him up to a more loyal version. Iron Man against using an inhuman pre-crime dude? Back him up to full blown crippling alcoholism. I got to the point of the video where it's revealed that Beast is backing _himself_ up, but the way it was worded I thought The Avengers had a clone or something). It's all kind of morbid. We've had multiple clone sagas already in Spider-Man and it never works out well (like, story quality-wise, not just for the characters). I wish the writers would stop using the "hey, here's the good version of this suddenly villainous, formerly beloved character too punch out the bad one and replace him!" trope. It's a cop out

[@ContagiousSponge]

Beast at this point is just a viliain

[@Tgaxgriffen]

Big facts. The worst part is I bet this doesn’t even have anything to do with sins of sinister😂😊

[@jacksondaniels007]

@@Tgaxgriffen Idk, Beast is also a doctor, I just can't believe he's changed this much on his own, there's gotta b something else going on.

[@ontoya1]

What I'm trying to figure out is how has he not got clapped yet

[@ontoya1]

OK never mind hes really covered all his corners. But I do feel like Jean can just figure out all this shit that hes hiding and one reading and it'd be a wrap

[@bajansamurai]

​@Tgaxgriffen I think that's the best part, personally. Sins of Sinister is designed as a story that plays out through 1000 years into the future then comes back to "the present". Sure some things are going to follow into the present day story from that future but that means most of the rest will be reset. This will have consequences to move forward in the main timeline.

[@donvandenberg5301]

I think that they're going to ride this out with the shock factor of, "oh, my God, I cant believe hank would do these things." And as soon as it gets old, they'll go, "all of these clones etc. Were because dark beast set it up ahead of time. Now he's been defeated, and the real hank is back and would have never done something so heinous. Really... look... isn't he cuddly?

[@FrederickAmadi]

Beast as a villain is so interesting and the fact that he can now be added to Logan's villain roster, is pretty cool. I like the fact that characters can change because it makes them more real and relatable. Yes, he started off as a good guy, but circumstances and character development has molded him into a villainous character. I hope they develop Beast more, perhaps eventually have him lose the X-men belt buckle and develop his own brand. I also like the clone concept because it plays into the whole "real Mckoy" phrase.

[@Gambit2051]

The idea that Beast can Trust Himself is honestly hilarious atp

[@bajansamurai]

I'm sure there are risks to assuming he can 100% trust himself, but he's not Mr. Sinister who has a [possibly] tweaked up narcissistic personality and quirkiness that makes him overcompetitive and prone to betrayal. Beast can trust himself in the regard that he's single-mindedly focused on the protection of Krakoa at all costs (not bettering himself). That could mean sometimes doing away with a Beast or two for the overall goal, but still...

[@Gambit2051]

@@bajansamurai The issue is that inside of Beast...even he knows there is a Hero...and a Hero would stop him...(just thinking in written form and adding to the discussion...i feel that is necessary to state some times lol)

[@bajansamurai]

@@Gambit2051 True to a point. I posited that they're going to do this externally. There won't just be a hero in Beast, there'll literally be a heroic Beast on the outside. Here's what I thought months ago when people were lamenting that Beast was being ruined by making him closer and closer to a villain: "What if he left a backup of himself from before he started doing things by any means necessary?" OR "What if out of sympathy for who he was, a twisted thanks for doing what others wouldn't but was necessary, or out of respect for technically authorizing him to do whatever he saw fit to do, after a death they use an edited backup of pre-villainy?" As a spin on having once brought Beast and the other OG X-Men forward from the past, I can completely see an earlier version of Beast from a backup, who others wouldn't blame the same way for the things his older self did, being brought back. It may simply also be a necessity: 1) needing a Beast to bypass a biometric+ failsafe of his, or 2) needing someone who thinks like Beast to anticipate and counter what these Beasts are doing. Either way, they just revealed such a version of Beast is what he left behind after purging all of his other backups. I hope, I can't say for sure they will, but I do HOPE we get that pre-villainy, Avengers-Era Backup resurrection to give us back a Beast we can respect (even if it will be with the nervousness of knowing how far he could go given too much free reign). I also think it'd be neat if it's something he put in place with Professor "Shady" X that WHEN he goes too far and has to be discarded for his misdeads that he gets brought back as the best version of himself he thinks he was (and when others saw him as the bouncy, fun, philosophizing, quippy and heroic blue furball)

[@bajansamurai]

"Avengers-Era Beast" vs the "Council of Darkest Beasts" for the save? A little more literal stopped by the good in him than just a voice inside telling him he can't go further than he already has.

[@joshuadaugherty3594]

There can be No Doubt... Its really Dark Beast in a blue beast meatsuit

[@mjr8888]

You said he left behind memories of his time with the Avengers, etc. I bet this Beast dies, and the one they bring back is a younger Beast who isn't like this.

[@karmabum21]

Let me tell you, I knew Beast was untrustworthy ever since he turned on Cyclops way back in AvX. I feel like he is finally the Beast he has always been. I hope he isn't redeemed and goes on to be a major X villain from this point forward.

[@Thrillr]

Krakoa megazoid looks like “God” 4rm One Punch Man!!

[@antwan1357]

I think we have Sinister Beast you just can't see the Diamond on his head behind all that hair , and would explain better to tie it in to Mr Sinister.( and ) again I am loving that shirt man.

[@luisa.acevedo3326]

Beast is becoming Sinister 2.0. I hope he turns into Sublime Beast.

[@tyrojames9937]

MAN, the EVERYBODY Clonning thing is OUT-OF-HAND❗😂😂

[@ishryal]

An army of Wolverines gets controlled by Kid Omega who saw Beasts plans and hid in Beasts Krakoa separated backups - hence why Quinton couldn't be found in the Krakoan backups.

[@1187underground]

I think this is the Beast that has been building up for some time now. In almost every post-apocalyptic, future timeline Beast usually takes a darker path. His appearance is also changing to be similar to dark beast- the bottom row fangs becoming more pronounced. It would be interesting to see Logan take Beast down and the AoA beast be revived, if thats where theyre going with this

[@koushikraja331]

man becoming amanda waller/maria hill.

[@sawtooth808]

Well, there was Dark Beast, and Sublime Beast awhile back in X Men (think of a mutant version of Hannibal Lecture {evil with a capital E})

[@Jerry_jamboree]

I enjoyed his growth into Dark Beast or Sublime Beast

[@JM-gc7hz]

I didn’t like evil Beast. It’s interesting now. I still want “regular” or classic Beast back at some point. Let this play out and go back on it like they did years ago with Bishop.

[@Nikke283]

I can't believe it. That's the first time ever, I had read the specific comic BEFORE I saw the video …XD ! Great video!

[@serena77449]

Someone needs to pull a him on him. Hold a mirror up to him via Dark Beast to asuage him of this ends-always justify-the-means worldview bc he’s past hurting/killing (mutant) innocents atp. Hank has always had a hint of self-hate and negligence to him but there is a part of him that cares abt others. I’d argue a lot of it is self-importance, but not all of it.

[@IXthKingz]

Damn no idea you lived in Memphis! Guess that’s another reason to support you 💯 💯

[@blackphoenix77]

I really hope they use the remainder of Beast's backup to bring back the Avengers era Hank McCoy.

[@bblivid]

I am only keeping up with these storylines vicariously through you. Does this mean Beast's clones won't be sinistered because they don't get resurrected? And so beast can't be sinistered either? I don't know if the storylines meet up somewhere

[@sawtooth808]

My guess is this is probably the Age of Apocalypse Beast that was in Krakoa on the Quiet council. And Marvel if it isn’t, do bring Dark Beast in in a future arc of Thunderbolts where he acts as a Hannibal Lecture type profiler to help the team catch criminals (he goes over Hank’s file saying “I always thought there was more of me in him, than him in me”

[@nikothewanderer]

Dark Beast has already been shown on Krakoa. His disembodied head is in a jar in Sinister’s lab in Immortal X-Men, before Sins of Sinister began.

[@Tru3kisame]

This Beast and Sinister feel like they're taking ideas and aspects from the Sublime Beast in an alternate future

[@AtmosphereIVXX]

Man f**k beast 😂😂😂 Last thing beast needs is Logan pulling up with a psychic put them memories in all the clones lol

[@koozg7579]

And make it look easy!

[@treylakingz9029]

Beast done lost his mind. LoL. Yo Ernie you going to cover GHOST LIGHT? loving that dude so far. Marvel is 👑

[@johnharristheblackrogue1914]

Two things. That skeleton shirt if fire. And black jack and hooked shit is nuts lol

[@thomasleblanc9024]

Since messiah complex beast has been going on his own with anything he thinks is right

[@itchycroe411]

Used to get made fun of as a kid for beast being my favorite xman. I never thought id enjoy a villain arc from him .

[@richiepommells180]

Beast has fallen off Their no going back This change happen When him and cyclops Had a fall out Beast became a hypocrite towards cyclops he also had no Reason to send the originals kids X-men to The present and telling Them garbage how cyclops would end the world He even put cable life and future on the line as well because jean and Scott wasn t sure if they Should be together Even the watcher knew Beast went to far Now comes to think of it The watcher knew this was the path he will Go true villains He saw it

[@bradbradfordson9158]

At least they've set up Beast's path to redemption. I predict his whole situation will fail and Avengers era Beast will be ressurected.

[@bill930505]

Cordyceps Jones’ kind-of-legacy confirmed.

[@dorgenois100]

Iceman is the only original X-Man that hasn’t turned. Prof X included

[@charliemangethedon1869]

Dude! I didn't know you were from Memphis. Me 2!

[@tehjboney4249]

I mean looking at this this might be either Dark Beast taking the place of Beast once again as the leader of X Force.

[@johnrobbins4496]

Are we sure all pieces of Onslaught were gathered and destroyed??? Beast is just.... Off...

[@isaiahtr]

So if he can have clones of himself. Is that finally confirming that the original X-Men are all dead, and these books are about clones like the old Ben Riley run? Also, thanks for reading these comics. Because i've checked out of them and prefer to hear about them this way.

[@SensoriaMaRia]

Great question I've had since day 1 of the Krakoa era.

[@wakamoon1910]

im really tired of people like these. you can have multiple clones of yourself you know, also nightcrawler in legion of X proves these are all the original x-men who have the same souls that wind up in the body. its already been established in marvel if clones last independently and develop their own self whilst the original or another clone is up then they can have their own souls. also if you still want to believe in your headcanon then you should acknowledge that captain america is a clone now since he was resurrected their way.

[@isaiahtr]

@Waka Moon So when you say that out loud, that doesn't sound stupid to you. Sounds super convoluted. But Hey, it's a free country, and you can like what you like and dislike what you like.

[@wakamoon1910]

@@isaiahtr marvel has already been convoluted, you either accept it or don't. because if you followed the comics at this point even before the krakoa, the original captain america got his background and origins changed to being a hydra agent and the captain america after that event was created from the cosmic cube. original captain america has been corrupted and killed off. iron man also had some stint where he was dead but an AI version of him was made, as well as an AU younger version of him was brought in and underwent changes to be like the modern image of iron man to take his place. just saying that if you're gonna be hung up on this whole "original x--men vs. clones" then you should just drop comics all together because a lot of marvel characters have stopped being the "original" character.

[@isaiahtr]

@Waka Moon And when you say all that, doesn't it sound stupid? What's strange is why you and the people who liked your comment even care? I like pizza, and if someone said they did not like pizza, I would not give a flying fuck.

[@WTSD850]

I'm defintly getting some 'new x-men: here comes tommorrow' vibes

[@Gambit2051]

1 of those Beasts will turn on the others...I have never been on board with the version of Beast shown here...his Narcissism was 100% on Full Display when he chose to leave his Backup from his Days as an Avenger...that was a seriously Cringe Moment for me tbh...

[@t.d.h.2938]

Fingers crossed that Beasts super secret Beast Team, is the only mf shadier and more sinister than Sinister.

[@3dark7]

Beast turns into Rick Sanchez!!!!

[@austintrees]

Beast looks like Evil Grover 😂

[@nanonn56]

This is like spider man clone saga X-Men maximum clonage

[@Kingjames313]

X-Men! Din nin nin nin nin nin X-Men! (Batman theme)

[@deelystanonfightcade2]

You think Marvel will put out something like a “Krakoan Era” omnibus? Because…I need that.

[@drphot6050]

Hank is definitely sippin his own kool-aid lol

[@tyrojames9937]

Beast Pulled a Sinister❗😄😄

[@soulfulserenity77]

Krakoanzord!!!!!!

[@deelystanonfightcade2]

At this point I think krakoan beast has out “darked” Dark Beast. But has he out “blimed” Sublime Beast?

[@madelinemitchell104]

Hank McCoy was always one of my favorite Marvel characters. I hate what he's become. I sometimes think Beast doesn't have a single fan at Marvel anymore. It's really the only complaint I have about the Krakoa Era.

[@bajansamurai]

We may be looking at the return of heroic, fun Beast because of that Avengers-Era Backup. This is the TLDR version, but read below for the meat on how this could be the plan to "redeem" Beast by having our cake [early Beast] and eating it [out-of-pocket Beast]. Will they need [hero] Beast to help stop [villain] Beast? Did Beast leave behind a good version of himself to reap the benefits he can't after he commits to going past the point of no return to keep Krakoa safe? Who will be the real McCoy when all of this is over? Tune in below! 😅

[@bajansamurai]

It is awfully convenient that all evidence of this Darkest Beast is gone from Krakoa's cradles and the good-guy Beast is left, isn't it? It's interesting about the Avengers-Era Backup (AEB) of Beast. It hints at something I posited and posted months ago when Beast started down this villainous path: "The writers can make him a full-on villain over time then use an earlier backup of him to resurrect him with." It serves multiple meaty purposes, and I just realized how deep it could go. I was thinking that he has Carte Blanche as head of X-Force to go against the rules and Laws of Krakoa such as, killing no man, and not having multiples of a still-living Mutant resurrected. Technically, part of the deal was that these are not punishable offenses for Krakoa blackops (although they'd surely be disavowed if they can't politic it away if found out). [If these are punishable offenses, the rest still applies though...] Aside from just punishing Beast with the Hole, he may be too dangerous [know too much, and be risky like Sabertooth was] to put in there, or [for plot reasons] to stop him, he and the mechanism that resurrects him scientifically and technologically needs to go. All of which leaves us with: the AEB backup! As thanks for his service, to honor his exemption from punishment technically, from a secret deal he made beforehand, OR in need of someone [heroic] who can think like [villainous] Beast to stop the Council of Beasts. In this way, we could get the "redemption" of Beast without redeeming him by replacing him with an uncompromised earlier version. After all, we've already seen Beast bring his earlier self [with the rest of the First Class] from the past to remind them of their heroism. We could even see a flashback where Beast sits secretlt with Xavier and says, "To do this, I'm going to have to do things I can't come back from. Krakoa is going to have to get rid of me. After all that settles, bring back a 'ME' from before I do any of this. Me that everyone thinks was the best of me." [The Avengers-Era Beast].

[@SubzeroBlack68]

I'm guessing Beast thought that he could turn his body into a weapon to kill the individual who killed him. Or any witnesses in the area.

[@BlackHart730]

these councils with the same person is getting lame AF.

[@xerohcool]

Is Dark Beast still kicking around? Should have a team up at this point.

[@KenGKaiden]

Last time they showed Dark Beast, he was a head in Sinisters lab.

[@sawtooth808]

@@KenGKaiden okay then,

[@xerohcool]

@@KenGKaiden wow really? Didn’t know that. Makes sense though. Thanks.

[@Hazeyeforseen]

I never liked Beast. Never knew why. But guess I was right bout him.

[@ethandang212]

I hate what they've done to beast

[@shawnwilliams5461]

With the enviable relaunch of the x-universe by Disney on the horizon, you can feel the boiling point coming in the comics. All of this insanity with Moria and Orcus, kracoa and Beast, sinister and destiny is going to lead to one hell of a finale

[@deelystanonfightcade2]

I’m so excited for it. Whatever happens after this era it’s like atleast we had this!

[@mka6245]

How did joke cracking Shakespeare quoting Beast become this character? Has anyone done a video on this?

[@jonwoolner7026]

Does anyone have the read list for Beast's evil agenda? Is it just wolverine comics or x-force too?

[@DJKILLZOWNJONES314]

Woah Beast is tripping

[@tannerblack5249]

They left the avenger files so when they finally kill this beast they can bring back nice happy beast

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

Skeletor:what?!

[@goodapples.]

I wonder who's memories will be in those wolverine bodies.

[@theonewhowokeup9987]

@10:43 X-men legends 2 quote

[@KHaskins23]

No, not Beast! At one point this guy was the genius yet loveable big blue monster, now he's gone full heel!? WTF Marvel!?

[@nanonn56]

U know what im thinking this evil beast from axis series probably did same thing iron man did to stay evil 😂

[@NikFuryEndgame]

i hate the way beast is drawn most of the time.... why make him a beast if he looks like a dork. u could make him look smart and monstrous...its like they try to make him look as un beast like as possible while working within the restraints of the fact he is a beast... i do love the fall from grace stuff... i mean... he's finally not boring.

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

Why didn't he just put his mind in the Wolverine clones?

[@roadink-01]

Celebro from (scriber x) the villain inspired by Mark Hamils joker the ultimate villain

[@levesterthesamurai7930]

The last of us part X

[@YorchPineda]

X-Force is becoming ludicrous and contradicting previous stablished things. Aren't The Five needed to do a proper resurrection anymore? How is he reproducing the process. Also... A Krakoazord? A Clicker? What kind of Rick and Morty rip-off are we reading?

[@whiskeytangofoxtrot3861]

Cyclops was right.

[@richiepommells180]

Fall of x is coming I know beast will Be the down fall of Krakoa Also don t trust the kingpin now that he living in krakoa him and His wife is working a angle probably made a Deal with the u.s. government to provide Info on the mutants island just to get a pardon Beast must of erase kid omega back up and got him kill its all coming back to him wow

[@tyroneberry3605]

First let’s go

[@ronaldpeterson7717]

😢

[@user-followyeshua]

Being safe don't make you soft these false philosophy's brain wash ppl lol

[@jayhemp00]

Are we getting Dark Beast???

[@ijimenez5]

💯💯💯❤️

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

Skeletor:what?!