@ Beau: please Stick it to the top. I know - you are modest and probably did not do so simply because someone might’ve that as „selfish“ because it may get views but many will try to find it and you could make their search much shorter and successful. Thx
@cmax522769 Жыл бұрын
Who did it better?-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXWmqJhqps6bbpI
@theveteransergeant Жыл бұрын
The real band that history teachers need to focus on is Rage Against the Machine. 30 years ago they were singing about stuff from 30 years before that, and here we are, and it's all still 100% relevant.
@chrish564 Жыл бұрын
As a 90's teen their music was party background and I didn't pay any attention to lyrics. Last year I started looking up their songs with lyrics and I have been blown away by how much they tackle. Yes, classes could be done around their music!
@christinacody8653 Жыл бұрын
I agree. They Might be Giants have several science friendly songs as well (including a less famous response to "Sun is a Mass of Incandescent gas" which is basically a retraction and correction of the first.
@erinmac4750 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. It's one of my GenZ son's go to bands.
@neuralmute Жыл бұрын
@@chrish564 Too bad you didn't listen to their lyrics back in the 90's! The lyrics were why I fell in love with Rage back in the day, and I learned a whole lot from them - they were one of the many things that helped to shape my worldview at a formative age, and they rocked hard!
@scottward1002 Жыл бұрын
MY VOTE IS FOR…. TROUBLE COMING EVERYDAY✅✅✅✅ FRANK ZAPPA ……..1965……..🌶🌶🌶🌶
@KDubs107 Жыл бұрын
Billy Joel was going to be a history teacher before he was in music.
@chrisdonovan8795 Жыл бұрын
I think Sting was an English teacher.
@9753flyer Жыл бұрын
@@chrisdonovan8795 He was
@sonjaleesloth Жыл бұрын
Billy Joel wanted to compose classical music the last I heard in an interview.
@Grumpy_Hobbit Жыл бұрын
I would argue that he was a history teacher.
@Palindrome78 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not in my history class but my friend's class had to summarize all the events Billy Joel had in his songs.
@chrisdonovan8795 Жыл бұрын
Fallout Boy: You're out of order. Me: You're out of order! This whole song is out of order!
@buckiesmalls Жыл бұрын
I read that in my best Al Pacino voice, cadence and inflection.
@jeffking887 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many (or how few) will get that reference.
@petemavus2948 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffking887I got it, most halfway scentsible people will too. 😜
@warriorwaitress7690 Жыл бұрын
Plus they never even once mentioned the global freaking pandemic. Huge oversight. Billy Joel wouldn't have made that mistake. 😂
@warriorwaitress7690 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffking887 Yup, I got the reference, too. ☺️
@KellyBergerDeusVult Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure which is worse. The fact that most people didn't know that it was in order, or the fact that I didn't realize that most people didn't know that
@JackStraw1961 Жыл бұрын
People do disappoint.
@FelisTerras Жыл бұрын
Same here. Then again, looking at the state of the world, people do seem to take little interest in learning (from)history.
@geoffwilliams4478 Жыл бұрын
Indeed it is. People don't take the time to learn history and don't care to learn from it
@ileneahrens8741 Жыл бұрын
When the original song came out, in 1989, I experienced some of the events in real time. Anything referenced before my time was taught in school.
@yurmomsaccount Жыл бұрын
Haha i feel the same. I also thought " I am SUCH a nerd. 😂"
@MJ-we9vu Жыл бұрын
The most depressing thing about this video was when you said your history teacher used the song in class. Geez Louise. I already had a job and car payment when the song first came out. OMG, I'm old. Where's my walker?
@Bildgesmythe Жыл бұрын
I'm so old I have no idea who Fall Out Boy is.
@robertshiell887 Жыл бұрын
I feel your pain
@Wednesdaywoe1975 Жыл бұрын
It's ON YOUR LAWN!
@MJ-we9vu Жыл бұрын
@@Wednesdaywoe1975 ...What's it doing there? GET OFF MY LAWN!!!! 😀
@MrCanuckDon Жыл бұрын
Got me wondering if English teachers still use "Ode To Billy Joe" for study and class discussion. 🤔
@davidbryden7904 Жыл бұрын
In 8th grade, I had a history teacher that stressed events and their chronological order, over dates and names. His style helped to gave me a lifelong interest in both history and politics/current events. Having some historical context has really helped me to navigate and try to understand some of what's going on today. Thank you, Dr. Willard Saucerman. 🙏 Happy huMp day, internet ppl. 🤗
@littlebitofhope1489 Жыл бұрын
Once you have the line of events down, it's easier to put dates to them if you need it. Most of the time you only need a ballpark.
@arcanewyrm6295 Жыл бұрын
I think the proper order of events is far more important than the specific dates, anyway. The chronology establishes a solid sense of cause and effect, which is extremely important in understanding the "how" and the "why" of historical events, not just the "when" and the "where".
@skepticaliam5857 Жыл бұрын
brain washing starts in pubic schrool, especially history and science.
@littlebitofhope1489 Жыл бұрын
@@skepticaliam5857 Where exactly aren't children influenced? At home?
@olmostgudinaf8100 Жыл бұрын
@@skepticaliam5857 I don't disagree with you, but I am willing to give them the benefit of a doubt and concede that it is probably out of convenience rather than a deliberate conspiracy. It is easier to teach a subject (ANY subject) in the form of an enumerated list. It makes it easier to quantify how much the students learned. The drawback is that it doesn't give the context and the students don't learn to understand things, only to memorize things (and forget them as soon as the test is over).
@ninemoonplanet Жыл бұрын
Beau, Margaret Atwood said that everything, every scene in her books has already been done, has happened. That's what history can do, put the story into contemporary times with "The Handmaid's Tale" along with her trilogy on the possible outcomes of climate change. Both are unsettling, both have truths, both show humanity, or lack of it.
@nocheapthrill7 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, have you read the MaddAdam trilogy? Yikes…
@nocheapthrill7 Жыл бұрын
Oh maybe that’s what you were referencing at the end of your comment. That’s what I get for not reading the whole thing first.
@christinef7739 Жыл бұрын
She said that but she didn't give any references. She didn't say when or where some the those things happened. If she wants people to believe that, she needs to provide the supporting facts.
@jcspoon573 Жыл бұрын
@@christinef7739 No, she doesn't. You can try to debunk it if you like, but it isn't up to an author to hold your hand through what is already recorded history.
@patrick247two Жыл бұрын
I cannot wait to stand in a circle and piss blue out onto the plain.
@vexingcat9813 Жыл бұрын
I hear what you are saying and I get it. Please allow me to spend a few moments to share my perspective. I'm 53, my Son was born in 1987 My son is 35 he will be 36 in October by my best reckoning. For me, these new lyrics have a lot of meaning to me on a number of levels. This sums up all the things that have happened during my sons lifetime. His timeline overlaps my time line. It ties us together, I parented him not only from my life experiences before I had him, but the events there where happening during his formative years when he was asking questions about his world. This significance of the time period and the events, on how I parented might be hard for another person so grasp. I get that. Since the late 80's the world has felt more and more chaotic and disjointed. We all transitioned through the 90's into a new age of news and information overload. The internet was in its toddler phase, learning to walk and by the early 2000s it was letting go for the coffee table and learning, not only to walk, but to run. The chaotic nature of these lyrics, in no respected order, makes sense in the world that has become inundated with news of everything all at once. I know I didn't explain that very well, I wish I could say it better.
@sarabaker6286 Жыл бұрын
i wouldn't be surprised if that was fall out boy's intention. when Billy Joel released the original, news often came in chronological order by way of newspapers or tv news but now with social media being so prevalent I don't even remember the last time I heard news in chronological order not to mention the amount of times I see stories on the same thing over and over again till its everywhere, I think that social media alone makes this song impactful in ways that older generations can't even begin to imagine, sure Gen X and even Millennials were around for the inception of social media and even the internet but it even shocks me and I was born in 88 and grew up with all of these things but how fast information travels and the chaotic nature of it all just puts me in awe of what technology has achieved.
@vexingcat9813 Жыл бұрын
@@sarabaker6286 So you are my son's age. The world you where coming into was getting smaller as you grew up. Literally, the year you where born, it was easier and more affordable to send a letter to friends or family in the next town over, only 50 or 60 miles away. The cost of a long distance call added up fast. In city limits you could call anyone you wanted without an additional charge. To talk to someone out in the rural area the long distance kicked in. Now on a daily basis, I speak to my friends in the UK, Slovakia, Denmark, Germany, South Africa, the Philippians and all parts of America. Discord makes it as easy for me to connect with people and their ideas and perceptions as my next door neighbor. We can sit together in voice, stream the news as it happens and talk about what it means to each of us. On the other hand my brother is still stuck in the much smaller world.
@elizabethmcglothlin5406 Жыл бұрын
Applied to climate change, we definitely started the fire.
@Lodurrson Жыл бұрын
The song is from a generational perspective. So no, we didn’t start that fire.
@alumpyhorse Жыл бұрын
ouch. most definitely. We sure are a bunch of earth-desecrating, warmongering creatures. Sure hope we get it together. Grateful to Beau, sanity-saver that he is. keep fighting, peeps. We have a lot of work to do.
@myrecreationalchannel7181 Жыл бұрын
Well no, everyone who started the industrial revolution which started moving things died over a century ago. So WE didn't start it, but we can most definitely take control of it now that we are around. It is the primary issue governing how I devote my volunteering, donating, and voting. Get involved, stay involved. In my case particularly locally, but we can also effect things on a broader level as well.
@dude2499 Жыл бұрын
@@Lodurrsonwe didn’t light it but we’re trying to fight it
@lucasvyner1502 Жыл бұрын
No we didn't, been happening since before the human race existed, will still be happening till our sun expands itself or our orbit decays and it's all moot. Unless we go back to living like cave men and get a whole lot more callous about protecting our weak and elderly there is no slowing it down, regards of what the snake oil green side preaches.
@richardleatherman5075 Жыл бұрын
At 66 years, I am re-writing those lyrics to support the chorus "...we didn't start re-tired..."🎶🎶
@littlebitofhope1489 Жыл бұрын
You know thinking about it, that song would have been a great response the the "ok boomer" trend. I'm going to have to remember that the next time I see it. Boomers didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning.
@aylbdrmadison1051 Жыл бұрын
@@littlebitofhope1489 My versions chorus.. Nobodies born a bigot. But the grooming starts when politicians hid it.
@grmpEqweer Жыл бұрын
We didn't pick the liar, He's been lying and his fans were dying, We didn't choose the con-man, He's a big disgrace, get him out of the race!
@skepticaliam5857 Жыл бұрын
@@aylbdrmadison1051 grooming an interesting phenomenon today.
@timdowney6721 Жыл бұрын
Since I’m 70 with a leg injury, I’m rewriting Natalie Cole’s “Someone That I Used To Love” into “Something That I Used To Do.” 🤣🤣🤣
@krisfrederick5001 Жыл бұрын
As a songwriter, I'm just so grateful Beau's words are being used in classrooms and beyond as lessons. Subterranean homesick of the status quo blues. 🎵
@CalliopeLyric Жыл бұрын
I'm on the pavement thinking about the government. Same.
@mrjules1982 Жыл бұрын
@@CalliopeLyric You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows
@judithgockel1001 Жыл бұрын
‘They’re rioting in Africa, They’re starving in Spain. There are hurricanes in Florida, And Texas needs rain. The whole world is festering With unhappy souls; The French hate the Germans, The Germans hate Poles. But we can be tranquil, And thankful and proud, For Man’s been endowed With a mushroom shaped cloud. And we know for certain That some lucky day, Someone will set the bomb off And we will all be blown away.’ Tom Lehrer - The Ode to John Foster Dulles
@maartenvandam344 Жыл бұрын
Twenty years of schooling, and they put you on the day shift.
@marka6327 Жыл бұрын
Dylan did rap.
@bravejango12 Жыл бұрын
I was writing a history report on the original version during my 11th grade history class in the computer lab. While researching the cola wars our teacher wheeled in one of the big TV's on a cart and turned on the news. It was the morning of Tuesday September 11th 2001. 5 minuets later the second plane hit the world trade center. We watched in real time as our whole world changed and none of us at the time knew what that really meant.
@hannahdyson7129 Жыл бұрын
The British poltcains sex line is really sad. The young women involved got all the blame and the poltcain who took advantage of her off lightly Her life was ruined after being taken advantage of by a old man
@douglemay7989 Жыл бұрын
The same old story.
@elloowu6293 Жыл бұрын
Same thing happened with Monica Lewinsky. Although that was consensual, there was definitely a huge power dynamic, and she got dragged through the mud
@krejados1 Жыл бұрын
@@elloowu6293 But you gotta love her for answering "Are you thinking of changing your name?" with "Why? Is he going to change his?"
@hannahdyson7129 Жыл бұрын
@elloowu6293 By take advantage Of mean he took advantage of her naivety She was, however, under serious manipulative pressure
@elloowu6293 Жыл бұрын
@hannahdyson7129 Yea, it wasnt a great situation all around
@laurasmith14 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!! That drove me crazy about the fall out boys song… No order whatsoever. Considering 9/11 was my generations “JFK“ or even “Challenger“ moment, I was shocked that they didn’t mention it until the third or the last verse!
@utility63 Жыл бұрын
When I was younger there was a show called "Connections" and each episode went chronologically with one scientific discovery leading to another and how society changed as a result. A lot of it was unexpected. I should see if it's still as good as I remember.
@erinmac4750 Жыл бұрын
Loved that show! Saw it in bits and pieces as reruns my dad was watching when I was a kid. The first time I saw one all the way through, it blew my mind. Had a second epiphany when I realized that's pretty much how things really work, especially in history. I believe there are still some episodes on YT, though they might peak out at 360 quality. It would be awesome if BBC would re-release the series on either Blu-ray or streaming.
@coriolass Жыл бұрын
Great show.
@thevirtualtraveler Жыл бұрын
He wrote books too. I first encountered [James Burke] in his book, The Day the Universe Changed: How Galileo's Telescope Changed the Truth. Which follows the same basic layout of neatly explaining how people viewed the world, WHY they viewed the world that way, and what caused our outlook to change. We tend to view ancient peoples as stupid, and I really enjoyed that he portrayed them as sane, logical, and smart as us, just operating with a different knowledge base.
@paulc5333 Жыл бұрын
Am I old? I was already almost out of school when the song came out... as an HS history major I was well aware of these events.. Still a student of history and politics.
@RoninXDarknight Жыл бұрын
As someone who had a history teacher in HS have an entire lesson that revolved around us looking up the events of the original "We Didn't Start The Fire", I can say that that was one of the coolest lessons of my entire school career. The previous year our English teacher had us write an essay exam on what we thought the song "Good Night Saigon" was about. That one was less fun because at the time I had never even heard that song before so had absolutely no idea what it was about.
@angelairidescenceartglass6289 Жыл бұрын
Saw Billy Joel in concert in HS - my dad drove me. He was a Vietnam Vet. A combat medic. Goodnight Saigon begins with the sound of a Heuy coming in for a landing. Watched him turn pale and check out for awhile. PTSD trigger. Dad wasn’t able to listen to the song until he was able to get ahold of a tape he could fast forward past the sounds of the roters.
@paldrighetti Жыл бұрын
@@angelairidescenceartglass6289 In concert, the rotors were terrifying and made to be that way. What an atmosphere. When I saw him it was the tour for the album and he started the concert with this song and it's effects. Extremely scary.
@johnchedsey1306 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a teaching tool when I was in high school because the song came out while I was still in high school. Gonna just go shop for a nursing home now
@jazzman. Жыл бұрын
It's so ironic when history comes to humans in reflective song and we still ignore it and pay attention to the shiny objects. Vote Blue y'all.
@shawnr771 Жыл бұрын
Look keys. Good afternoon Jazzman. Hope you are keeping cool in your part of Texas.
@Matty272 Жыл бұрын
I’m Canadian, so no.
@jazzman. Жыл бұрын
@@shawnr771 Howdy.
@triplesluck Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about this song, I will need to listen to it.
@nealskrenes2612 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!! *History is chronological.* How did “fall out boy” misunderstand that?
@ajiththomas2465 Жыл бұрын
I mean, "World trade, second plane, what else do I have to say" as the last line is a pretty hard act to follow.
@jennsantry Жыл бұрын
I'm sure they understood that and did the best they could. The original was a near masterpiece and that level cannot be recreated. It's still powerful in its own right.
@UTubeHandlesSuck Жыл бұрын
This assumes there was any attempt to understand it in the first place, rather than a standard music industry _"Hey, remember when that guy had a hit years ago, wonder if we could do something like that?"_
@imandan1966 Жыл бұрын
@@jennsantry masterpiece is a bit of a stretch
@longforgotten4823 Жыл бұрын
As a historian, I don’t think they put in the effort to understand the point. It’s a catchy tune, and they can make money off of that. That’s all.
@longforgotten4823 Жыл бұрын
My high school history teacher did this on a fun day. The entire class loved it and it became a friendly competition to see who could get the most references just by listening to the song. I will also be utilizing this in my future courses as a history teacher. The reason why history teachers use this piece is because of chronology. The order in which events occur are extremely important to History and Historical perspectives. Evidence matters and chronology matters. It’s also really fun.
@angelairidescenceartglass6289 Жыл бұрын
Fun exercise for teaching after they identify the references - have students write additional verses in chronological order. Can break it down into a small group project with groups assigned time periods or have individual students pull years from a hat depending on class size and goals. Pulls it from identification up Maslow’s hierarchy to analysis and application. Another possible extension exercise is have students choose an event and do a 1-2 page (or longer) report/summary/class presentation of one event mentioned with an explanation of the significance. For that one I’d say either have them choose from a pared down list (maybe with years attached as a focus as “Ole Miss” and “John Glenn” have more than one reason to be significant if you haven’t already made the chronology clear) to concentrate on the “historical significance” events. Or, do a group presentation and assign years/blocks of time to groups to make sure they have both types of events to cover. Problem with year groups is that some are really pop culture heavy while others are very “history” heavy (Begin, Reagan, Palestine, Terror on the Airline, Ayatollah’s in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan vs Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn’s got a winning team, Davey Crockett, Peter Pan, Elvis Presley, Disneyland). Or could make the list based on the events they couldn’t identify. Again - depends on the class and goals but a way to get them engaged and doing some research.
@Opus313 Жыл бұрын
Fall Out Boy didn't start the fire, but they did throw gasoline on it...
@tombrown4683 Жыл бұрын
LOL,good one !
@michaelgreaves2375 Жыл бұрын
The right wing bloggers are already having a conniption fit about the song.
@tombrown4683 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelgreaves2375 I haven't heard the FOB version but if it pisses off the right wing I already like it .
@fairycat23 Жыл бұрын
Oh come on, the song is mid, not gasoline-on-a-fire bad! Fall Out Boy didn't throw gasoline on the fire, they just kinda stared at it and went, "Whoa. That's a lot of fire."
@grannysquared7140 Жыл бұрын
Paused to go listen, now I'm crying. Why am I crying?
@thomasozburn6358 Жыл бұрын
Reading some of these comments is definitely brought tears to my eyes. Happy tears that some are actually paying attention Is two history
@howlpoint4709 Жыл бұрын
Will the last real person to leave please remember to hit the lights!
@donttrudd2310 Жыл бұрын
Jeeze. It's been years since I've heard 'We Didn't Start the Fire'. Pulled it up after Beau's video. Still same reaction - helpless tears. Too many memories. I lived through those times. Everyone I loved who helped me feel safe during those times is gone now, as they are for nearly all of us. Now, it is our turn to make sure there is a future.
@gitchegumee Жыл бұрын
For my generation, we had been out of school for awhile when this song came out. We thought it was a look back at the events we grew up with. I can remember many of these events from grainy black and white tv news while eating dinner.
@marilynjackson2693 Жыл бұрын
Agree. Billy Joel song that has been a favorite. I didn't understand the significance of the time-line as Beau states, although I knew the reference to events I lived through. Not all, but many. Currently 70 Years old. ❤😢
@JesterTop Жыл бұрын
This updated version "We Didn't Start The Fire" covers my entire memorable life (Born In 87). I definitely noticed it wasnt in order. But seeing it all put together in one place is somewhat impactful just to see (some) of the long list of things that we have really seen in 35 years.
@sharongarrett4356 Жыл бұрын
Here's a story-- a friend and I sat in a pizza joint one day and wrote a song about a disheartening news story that had just come out. We lived near the beach and it was upsetting, and true. Our song was called "Needles on the Beach." It was fast and catchy and a little punk-y, written quickly but thoroughly on a nice-sized napkin. Not too much later, the Billy Joel song came out with its reference to 'hypodermics on the shore.' We were amazed.
@mychiee Жыл бұрын
I’m not a teacher but I feel like the facts it’s not in order really just emphasis the fact that so much happened it’s hard to keep straight, it’s also sad how many things referenced in the original are still happening and referenced 34 years later
@kittykittykitty883 Жыл бұрын
Billy Joel's version definitely sparked my passion for history when it came out. I was 6 years old. Started the fire for me, at least. 😉
@moxiebombshell Жыл бұрын
That's so great. My kids are 6 and 9 and have been obsessed with the song for the last few weeks, and I have no idea where they first heard it! I remember seeing the video when it first came out; I was only 9, not much older than you were, and it had a similar effect on me - Since the song is basically pure, uncut Boomer history and I was an inquisitive kid who liked talking to adults, I was in heaven; I'd ask my parents and their friends about events being the lyrics all the time.
@kittykittykitty883 Жыл бұрын
@@moxiebombshell That's so neat that your kids are into it! Standing the test of time...
@seraphonica Жыл бұрын
I never realized it was in order. I'm not saying I'm not dense, but one would think some kind of reference to a fuse would be a natural choice to evoke that linearity.
@lordmonfort Жыл бұрын
Just watched it...that was rough. This was the Woodstock '99 version of the original.
@Alsatiagent Жыл бұрын
Beau vids used as a teaching tool is very good news.
@laurietx7714 Жыл бұрын
Boy I feel old. Been out of school for four years and had a four year old when the song came out. Yes, I knew it was in order. Thanks!
@SeasonedCitizen Жыл бұрын
I can make you feel better. I graduated HS 14 years before this gem hit the charts. You're welcome 😊
@geraldmahoney4856 Жыл бұрын
I was 28 and a Ssgt in the Marines when that came out. I loved that song. It let the young ones know that the world didn’t start when they became teenagers. It’s still relevant today.
@carmelinacappetta3154 Жыл бұрын
I referred the song to my son. He used it in his studies. He had never heard of it.
@AlleyBetwixt Жыл бұрын
Hadn't listened to it yet, so just did. Got me kind of emotional. I'm 37 so it neatly covers the timeline of my conscious life. My folks had a copy of Billy Joel's 'Storm Front' that I listened to a lot as a kid and 'We Didn't Start the Fire' was always really fascinating to me. I had parts of it memorized. Haven't thought about it in a while, so hearing a new version with events that are intimately familiar to my own lifespan so far was really a trip. I don't mind it being out of chronological order since it seems more thematically pop culture memes, but it definitely makes it less viable as a teaching tool. Only thing I'm really surprised by is that COVID doesn't get a mention at all. Lol.
@samsanimationcorner3820 Жыл бұрын
Both songs feature the Suez Canal. Shit always be going down there.
@blakebond211 Жыл бұрын
Badwolf did a great cover of Cranberries "zombie" that's one that can still be used today.
@erinmac4750 Жыл бұрын
I read Beowulf instead of "Badwolf"! 😹
@MemristerBoogieDown Жыл бұрын
Oh, they no joke did Dolores proud with that one.
@acrodave9287 Жыл бұрын
There were some references to pop culture in the original, Beatlemania and Punk Rock come to mind, but what Billy Joel seemed to have done was find important events (from a US perspective, obviously) happening year by year and finding a way to get them to rhyme! Sounds simple, and it is, but deceptively so. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to explain this to people who say "Oh, it's just a list of stuff that happened..."
@lolowilderkind Жыл бұрын
Beau would be a good teacher.
@terrycuyler5659 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine had an English teacher who loved Iron Maiden’s Rime of the Ancient Mariner because it was so grammatically correct so she played it for her class every year. The band also got me interested in History, Literature, and classic movies.
@neeleynonea Жыл бұрын
Good Afternoon Fellow Travelers 🏵️🏵️🏜️🏜️
@brenttaylor4245 Жыл бұрын
100% agree on the whole teachers use in classroom thing. Had a teacher who did also. I disagree on the impact. My 15 year old daughter just showed me this song just a couple hours before you posted this video. Then she Got interested in what every word meant and then went on to listen to the original and started looking all that up. The generation with knowledge at their fingertips. It will make an impact in a way my slightly older generation can’t even understand.
@jamespulver3890 Жыл бұрын
Yea, I feel like understanding chronological order for history is important, but that a large part of the "usefulness" in a pop culture song bringing people to history is *awareness* at all of the events. My school history classes always ended with WWII so much of the original song I had (probably still have) little knowledge of the events outside of being inspired to look them up. In another 40 years, we'll have the same position for lots of people on many of the references of the new one. I also think like some of the other comments, taking the chaotic reference fest that's out of order and turning it into history is a useful exercise especially when consuming various social media where older threads are brought back years later, where you might see things out of order in a feed, etc. It's a different lesson sure, but we will still have the original for *that* lesson. Recent events / primary sources aren't crafted into a chronological narrative yet by historians.
@cravensean Жыл бұрын
I am a practicing student of culture and what you say here is not just legitimate commentary. This is useful instruction for culture workers.
@c.michellesparks2925 Жыл бұрын
This is so Gen X and I am totally here for it!
@mcsmokey9884 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to thank you for your channel and all your efforts. I stumbled across your channel yetas ago and almost immediately wrote it off based on your appearance and accent....thank you for bringing my biases to my attention. Im a bleeding heart liberal from California. My ignorance to the possibility that i was as bad as the right wing bigots in regards to judging a book by its cover is something that i was immediately ashamed of. Thank you for helping open my eyes and bringing my own unknown biases to my attention just by being you. You do amazing work, and I find myself not only agreeing with almost all of your takes, but it also gives me more faith in humanity and especially America than i previously had. Thank you
@deborahbarnes6741 Жыл бұрын
I did the same. The first video I saw was after one of the mass shootings & I expected an entirely different take. I thought I would be outraged & instead found a group of internet people I could relate to.
@shbr8369 Жыл бұрын
Me Too!!! Say it again for the people in the back...we ALL stand to learn something new 🤯🙏🏽🥰
@shbr8369 Жыл бұрын
@@deborahbarnes6741 RIGHT?!? ME TOO!!!🥴
@KMCA779 Жыл бұрын
my first video of Beau's is the one titled something like "how I came to love the red hat" and it ended up being about how useful it was to show people who wear it what discrimination looks like
@paulinelarson465 Жыл бұрын
Beau dosn't have an accent ! ! Well not THAT much of one. You should hear my stepdaughter's 37 yr old son! He is from Beau's area but sounds like he just came out of a WV holler. When he moved up here, Ohio, in his early 20's, my daughter-in-law (then late 20's) made a major effort to teach him to speak "Ohioan". No one understood him and he couldn't get a job. He moved south again after a few years, regressed, and is now back here taking remedial "Ohioan" lessons. His 14 yr old cousin had the entire family cracking up with her assessment - "I taught him how to speak once, it should be easier this time. I'm not four anymore." KIDS ! !
@Dave01Rhodes Жыл бұрын
Not only is it in order, but if you look in the liner notes for Storm Front, the years are listed with the lyrics.
@MMuraseofSandvich Жыл бұрын
Billy's going to need 3 verses for every month of the trump administration if he manages to find all the wild stuff that happened...
@Jeffrey-ed8sz Жыл бұрын
I love you Beau for being honest and trustworthy.❤😊
@jannegrey Жыл бұрын
Hello Everyone!
@kellahella5286 Жыл бұрын
👋🖖
@pameladwyer2244 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Jan!
@DetStoraMisstaget Жыл бұрын
Tjena fan
@jannegrey Жыл бұрын
@@kellahella5286 🤗💛♾
@jannegrey Жыл бұрын
@@pameladwyer2244 Hello Pamela! 🤗💛♾
@keithpodhradsky1314 Жыл бұрын
When you are younger, what is happening at the time is always the ONE thing that will forever be remembered. Then that gets erased by the next big thing.
@Reed_0024 Жыл бұрын
Shoulda picked up where Billy Joel left off and carried the tourch while putting these events in order... why are these events not in order like the original?
@markrenfrow9873 Жыл бұрын
Hey Beau and internet folks,
@zackamania6534 Жыл бұрын
🎵late thing recent thing very long ago thing/early thing before that thing very really recent thing/🎵
@d.donner111 Жыл бұрын
I understand why the new song, not being in order, cannot be used as history teaching. Yet, I find that the sheer overload of themes in the lyrics goes well is the media products of today: they present us one raging theme after an other without any lapse, without any time for us to digest the overflow of information. There are pop culture references in the song, that is part of the news cycle because this is presented to us a shiny distracting toy.
@jacobvaldez8794 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was okay, and enjoyed the punk aesthetic. They're not even remotely in Billy Joel's league as lyricists, but the randomness of the song does make it an excellent reflection of meme culture and short attention spans that are so common now.
@sarabaker6286 Жыл бұрын
@@jacobvaldez8794 which is why I think its extremely relevant, think about your social media feeds, is that ever in order, sometimes I might see a news article about something from 3 weeks ago and then something more current will come up after it, as i said in a comment above I think this song could be a really important research task in history lessons to see how kids retain/filter information to put this song in chronological order.
@AndrewAMartin Жыл бұрын
@@sarabaker6286 One of the worst things Facebook did was remove the chronological order of the user's Newsfeed. I rarely look at my feed any more... I also think FB's notification system is a mess -- I often get notified of a 'recent' post that in actuality was posted hours or even days previously. I think Instagram is still in chronological order, but Meta can still screw that up with so many sponsored and suggested posts that I can barely find the posts of the people I actually follow sometimes.
@nvidiotaus Жыл бұрын
It was an absolutely horrid version I'm utterly disappointed with that atrocious attempt.
@susanne5803 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, your family and your team for your help and work on and off screen!
@kerrinmurphy1033 Жыл бұрын
Former teacher here... this video made me very happy.
@amandamcquade1272 Жыл бұрын
🩵 🌎🌍🌏 Thanks again Beau. That's Proactively, Retroactively, and Always. 🔥♻️
@emilynelson5985 Жыл бұрын
"It doesn't work if you don't do the lyrics chronologically" is easily the best take I've heard on the matter.
@erinrogers9718 Жыл бұрын
My Art Teacher in middle school created a giant bulletin board around the song. Then we matched the names with photos. He was always teaching more than art. He was great!
@KabobHope Жыл бұрын
Now we just need an update of REM's "End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)" because of all the new ways the world can be destroyed.
@zaaz1471 Жыл бұрын
yep. it's in order. but.. the new version is more like our new chaotic world, so it kinda fits.
@zaaz1471 Жыл бұрын
fractured... i think i really mean _fractured_
@ronaldmorrison2765 Жыл бұрын
My history teachers never mentioned the song, "We didn't start the fire". Is that because I graduated in 1970 and the song wasn't released for another 19 years?
@alexiscrualnvseorm4775 Жыл бұрын
Howdy Beau! Thanks for always keeping us common folks informed. ❤❤❤
@rve420 Жыл бұрын
My gut tells me Weird Al could nail it. But my gut tells me a lot of things.
@markstevens9004 Жыл бұрын
I have ALWAYS thought Billy Joel needed to do a new version of the song, picking up RIGHT where the last one left off, with all the crap that's happened he'd have the material. Just like Ken Burns the 10th inning. Same idea.
@Soapandwater6 Жыл бұрын
Great idea! Someone should ask Billy Joel to do that. I'd bet he would.
@derkeheath5172 Жыл бұрын
Billy Joel is NOT a fan of We Didn't Start the Fire - he has referred to it as obnoxious and horribly repetitive, and hates performing it live.
@markstevens9004 Жыл бұрын
@@derkeheath5172 I know. Artists don't know what if what they make is good or bad ...or at least they shouldn't. Let's hope he changes his mind.
@KarenHawes Жыл бұрын
👍 Beau's videos 👍 and Billy Joel's songs
@lesleyedgley8371 Жыл бұрын
Hi Beau's peeps!🤗
@gypsydonovan Жыл бұрын
I remember Beau doing that. It was making me feel insane. He’d drop a line from the song in a video, another Line in the next video… I thought I was losing it. I even messaged him to see if it was intentional. Didn’t hear back but a few weeks later he came out & said what he’d been doing.
@sanmerci Жыл бұрын
As a teacher (I'm an English teacher, but I try to include a lot of history and philosophy in my lessons,) I was all ready to ask you to do an updated version of your previous video... but then I listened to your explanation and, regretfully, I have to agree with you. The lack of chronological order, in particular, would make it less impactful, and that would be a problem.
@RandomFandomDragon Жыл бұрын
In our history class, it was explained the original song is a paratheses around the cold war; my history teacher used it as the basis for our research papers. I absolutely love the original song.
@JadeStone00 Жыл бұрын
I've often thought that someone should release a new version of "Anything Goes" every December to make note of all the weird pop culture shtuff that happens in a year. If you want a snapshot of life in the 1930s, look up the lyrics to that one.
@007ndc Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we won't see the like of Cole Porter ever again 😢
@adamcuthbert4383 Жыл бұрын
My high school history teacher had us figure out the events in the song I think back around 1995 or so.
@suegeew9727 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I only took 1 history class in high school. (Because 'you're only going to get married and have children anyway.') Forty years later I watch every history thing I can find. Kids absolutely need to know history, good and bad.
@blechtic Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about The Descendents' 'Merican?
@ruthharris9664 Жыл бұрын
Its a great song period....it was originally sung by the only person meant to sing it
@kodioverholzer6281 Жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed it's not in order to however it does kind of fit the chaotic feeling of the last five years to a decade that feeling of not knowing when things happened was that two years ago or 4. As someone who grew up on Fall out boy it works for me
@rogerthat4545 Жыл бұрын
Made me think of the new "Fight the Power" by Public Enemy
@michaelgraziano8038 Жыл бұрын
Me, reading the lyrics to the new version: "OK but this is in like no kind of order whatsoever it makes no sense to..." Beau: "A lot of people don't know something really important about the original version: It's in order." Me: "THANK YOU!"
@SidewalkCitizenLA Жыл бұрын
I have to say that Joel DID mention pop culture, the difference being back then it had a more significant impact and therefore worth noting. Today pop culture is transactional and therefore less significant.
@iquestion8493 Жыл бұрын
👋 Thanks Beau and crew 😊
@tombrown4683 Жыл бұрын
And , as always, thank you for questioning ! 👋😀
@iquestion8493 Жыл бұрын
@@tombrown4683 I did watch the pinned video. 👋💙💙😊
@rebeccacamacho-sobczak4282 Жыл бұрын
Listen, Beau. As a retired teacher, I know my compatriots will fins a way!!!
@jenniferupton-ross845 Жыл бұрын
Our jr. High 8th grade history class uses this song as an assignment already. I love it when they get totally into it.
@angeloavanti2538 Жыл бұрын
Great original tune. Told the story of what we saw first hand.
@catwilliams7538 Жыл бұрын
As a History Professor...I love Billy Joel's Version...and I love Fall Out Boy's new version, too. But, you're right...Fall Out Boy's version is not in order...
@Ubotit_Unaymit Жыл бұрын
Howdy
@OutdoorLonghair Жыл бұрын
👋🥇🎉
@lesleyedgley8371 Жыл бұрын
😊
@Ubotit_Unaymit Жыл бұрын
@@OutdoorLonghair😊✌🏼
@Ubotit_Unaymit Жыл бұрын
@@lesleyedgley8371😊✌🏼
@Erin-Thor Жыл бұрын
Afternoon Ubotit Urockit! ❤
@carlosmattessich3883 Жыл бұрын
Let’s just say the new song is FIRE I’ll see myself out…
@dimon37 Жыл бұрын
I knew the original was in order. and its videoclip is pretty amazing. When I listened to Fall Out Boy's version, I knew something was off pretty much right away, I finally realized - it was out of order :(
@tombrown4683 Жыл бұрын
Well Beau, when you said a teacher used it when you were in school you made me look it up. God ! I didnt know it was that old ! (I knew I was)
@kenzzutube Жыл бұрын
Going back to listen to your previous video about this made me even more grateful that I've found this channel. Thanks!
@drlarrymitchell Жыл бұрын
I just shouted "THANK YOU" at my screen!
@Bebe.B. Жыл бұрын
When Billy Joel wrote the original, he made such a masterpiece, and it is in order of how history unfolded - AMAZING! I still listen to it to this day. I was a teen when it came out and it actually made me curious enough to look it all up back then.
@nochillwill4667 Жыл бұрын
As a MASSIVE Fall Out Boy, I'm happy to see Beau talking about them.
@MGood-ij1hi Жыл бұрын
One thing to take away from that song is that the world has always been a mess; but not a complete mess, there was some good too, just like today. As an older person I don't understand other older people who talk about the " good old days" when everything was wonderful ; or young people talking fondly about a time they didn't live through. To quote the lyrics of another Billy Joel song "The good old days weren't always good and tomorrow's not as bad as it seems".
@Queldonus Жыл бұрын
Anyone that says things were better back in the day was either privileged or ignorant back in the day.
@SeasonedCitizen Жыл бұрын
The older I get the more progressive I become. Sure memories are nice but it's the future I look forward to living.
@joshuaabe4832 Жыл бұрын
History teacher here. I use the original. I was excited for an updated one to contrast to. My heart SUNK when it wasn't in order
@lloyds7828 Жыл бұрын
Thalidomide should have been mentioned alongside Tuskegee. That way not so many would have been eager to jump on the Big Pharma bandwagon
@jijitters Жыл бұрын
This concept is foreign to me. No teacher ever even mentioned this song at any point in any of my years of school.
@josephcooter5763 Жыл бұрын
oh god that song makes me feel old. I was a freshman in college when it came out. Or maybe I was a senior in HIgh School. I don't know. It was a long time ago.
@sonjaleesloth Жыл бұрын
I know! 🫤
@TheVincentKyle Жыл бұрын
Eighth. Grade. Ugh.
@mandywalkden-brown7250 Жыл бұрын
Stop it! It was not that long ago (1988) and I’m not that old. Oh, yes I am.
@josephcooter5763 Жыл бұрын
@mandywalkden-brown7250 ok now I remember I was a senior in High School .
@theUberduckMashups Жыл бұрын
Words we're currently missing: - Cobain - Monsanto - Twilight - Fukushima - Cambridge Analytica - Cubs - Spielberg - Unabomer - Bobbitt - QAnon - Fyre (I'm sure we have a homophone, though) - Michael Phelps - Tiger King (?) - LeBron - Shinzo - Meghan Markle (Good on you, Beau!) - Burj Khalifa - Metroid - Serena - SpongeBob - Keaton - Kaepernick - DeLonge - Avatar - SSRIs Beau, just to put your mind at ease, this is based off of KZbin's automatic CC generation and some python code I wrote a while ago to take a large corpus of KZbin captions and see if they could be edited into, well, exactly the sort of video you're talking about. It was a fun weekend exercise to stave off boredom. Didn't expect to see a practical application for it. While we're missing a bunch of what we'd need to make the new We Didn't Start the Fire, you have said everything required to cut together a full version of Never Gonna Give You Up.
@natalieharless1715 Жыл бұрын
Love that song! Did Billy Joel get a Grammy for it? Saw him in person years ago. He was AWESOME!!!!!👏👍😁
@daryljohnson6738 Жыл бұрын
I was just talking to my wife the other day and I said we should update that song. Now I need to hear the new song.