Let's talk about the reaction to Juneteenth....

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[@johnwall7968]

The fact that Charlie Kirk sees Independence Day and Emancipation Day as conflicting tells you everything you need to know about the far right.

[@intuitionz1198]

underrated comment for sure! at this point I think it's best just to ignore them. I mean really ignore them like they do not exist. they do not matter. I'm just embarrassed I share her color with these people. 😔

[@AirCicilia]

...and about Charlie Kirk.

[@PhilLesh69]

Dominionists need to have a small minority white apartheid government that controls the larger nonwhite majority.

[@bleep1976]

add in the fact that Kirk can't/doesn't even remember the June 14th holiday - Flag Day shows what a "patriot" he isn't.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@@PhilLesh69 : _"Dominionists need to have a small minority white apartheid government that controls the larger nonwhite majority."_ If they do think that, then they don't even know what the word _need_ means.

[@ShinigamiSparda]

“If you don’t know who he is, don’t bother looking him up, it won’t add anything of value to your life.” *S A V A G E*

[@grmpEqweer]

I know who Kirk is, and Beau is spot on.

[@CCEkeke]

Beau drops facts on facts.

[@intuitionz1198]

I've never listened to a thing he said but I've seen his face on KZbin thumbnails. that alone maybe keep scrolling.

[@LazyIRanch]

Yes, I strongly advise NOT looking up Charlie Kirk, his face makes little children scream and flee in terror, and for adults he is visual Ipecac.

[@zinaj9437]

He could have said, "Consider yourself lucky."

[@ericapelz260]

"Two summer holidays!" Nobody tell Charlie that Christmas and New Years' Day are only a week apart and one is based on religion.

[@IAmValenwind]

OR! that some denominations of christianity, such as eastern orthodox, celebrate christmas on jan 7th and new year's on jan 14th, so they get TWO christmases and TWO new years- one is religious, one is federal.

[@almitrahopkins1873]

Or that Juneteenth is in spring. Summer starts on the 21st or 22nd of June.

[@Wayne-O-5169]

And both Christmas and New Years have roots in paganism. Gasp! I would add some snarky comment about America having lost it’s “Christian” principles, but that happened long ago.

[@ellenmgregg1111]

@@almitrahopkins1873 This! So glad you mentioned it.

[@gabrieleghut1344]

@Eica let's not forget about November and Thanksgiving. Two month in a row to celebrate 3 holidays in a time of 6 weeks 🤦‍♀️ unbelievable.

[@celticandpenobscot8658]

Frederick Douglass' "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July?" should be required reading in all high schools, public and private, just like the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.

[@The10thManRules]

Yep! Good point. Context is everything.

[@cheriann6461]

Yes!

[@goodguy...badrep.]

👏🏾

[@KillyHurts]

Amen

[@simpothyforthadevil1148]

Mr Douglass was based as fuck but not many people could identify your quote. Sadly the black community identified with martyrs not heroes. I pray that can change. Floyd and Lebron isn’t it. Douglass and Malcom X. Condi Rice.

[@bellhopwalrus2517]

_Juneteenth_ has been flying under the radar of most white people in this country for ~150 years. It's about damn time that we recognize it as a positive step forward for the country as a whole. The larger question should be: _Why did it take so long in the first place?_ Edit: Fixed 100 yrs to ~150 yrs. Thank you, Ms. Johnson.

[@blakenelson4158]

agreed did not know it was a thing till recently.

[@steveboverie9432]

I have been aware of Juneteenth for many years. My viewpoint is that slavery degrades both the slaves and the masters and the emancipation freed both. I don't understand the mindset that thinks it is good to own people and treat them any way they want.

[@steveboverie9432]

@Annette Johnson Semantics.

[@bellhopwalrus2517]

@Annette Johnson Thank you, Annette. I'm embarrassed to say that I had the chance to correct my error about an hour after posting, but was too lazy to go back and find it. So while I'm here....

[@Leonaza7]

So, Americans are granted the holiday but state laws say they can’t be educated to learn why the date is historically important…

[@tiffakang4525]

.......😤

[@bruh.4992]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gX7Hh4qXiLBgY7M ,,

[@joannecullen1011]

Be a outlaw and teach the children.

[@webman1956]

Exactly. The right says that you need to wait until you get out of high school to learn about the past because you might learn some ugly truths about our nation that still haven't been learned by many people.

[@melodyleffler7798]

And that is why I teach my children about it myself. I won't allow them to grow up ignorant the way I did. We must do better.

[@moverbob7409]

I’ve been saying it’s not a black holiday. It’s an American holiday.

[@bruh.4992]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gX7Hh4qXiLBgY7M .

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

Accurate

[@PhilLesh69]

Proud boys feel intimidated by black people. Plain and simple. Makes them feel less special.

[@zinaj9437]

It's a holiday that will show progress towards the more perfect union. I'd like to see MLK Day changed to Civil Rights Day and celebrate all who raised the dignity and social standing of people.

[@kevinathans4191]

That's exactly it...to these people it is only about race and black people aren't American.

[@canvasjockey4628]

It’s not a Black holiday, and the fact that this American holiday that has mainly been celebrated by Black folk up until now tells us how far we still have to go.

[@INRASHSkin]

I get the sentiment, but it is a black holiday. Most non black people hadn't heard of it half a decade ago and most black people I know would prefer yall not to water it down. There's already talk of it turning into the black Cinco de Mayo and I'd rather yall just go back to pretending it doesn't exist than that.

[@nhagan001]

Blackish was the tv show that introduced me to the idea of this holiday. To know I was so blind to this concept.... Damn.

[@goodguy...badrep.]

@@INRASHSkin You can thank the American education system for that. 6 states still don't want students yo learn about the inpact of racism in our country TODAY. Clearly, we can learn something from Germany as it pertains to teaching our actual history in order to avoid any mistakes from recurring.

[@annmarieknapp]

How can someone call Juneteenth of all days a holiday only for people of color. That's awful. It's a holiday for us all to think of what happened to good, honest hard working people and to remember that what happened was a tragedy. I It's an ignorant comment to say it's a holiday for just one race or two. Frankly, I don't even understand such thinking. I don't think of MLK's holiday like that. Nor do I think such ridiculous thoughts about other holidays named for people. Wow. Have we grown so little that people can't acknowledge what happened and want to honor those that were hurt, killed, or their livelihoods ruined and more? If that is the case, we are in even bigger trouble than we thought. No one blames a given religious group for 9/11 so why are we going to limit Juneteenth to a holiday that is only for POC. Not only was it a horrific series of egregious and inhumane acts committed that day, but it hurt everyone in the long run. We all suffer when even a single citizen of this country is harmed, character assassinated, and God forbid died during that event

[@annmarieknapp]

Damn straight! And man do we have a long way to grow!!!

[@ericmuschlitz7619]

The same people who say Juneteenth is about race are the very same ones that argue the civil war was not about slavery.

[@shawnr771]

Lmao so true.

[@debradipiazza844]

Read Frederick Douglass’ “What to the slave is the Fourth of July?” Then understand why we need Juneteenth.

[@snowytyler3793]

Powerful speech!! My friend teaches that one in class!

[@mrtonod]

Should be read every July 4th.

[@williamfisher4663]

What we need to do is chop they head off ...only then will we be free. You willing to bust yo gun to get it

[@SavageGreywolf]

Imagine being mad at a holiday celebrating American history that's been celebrated by Americans for over a century with barbecue, baseball games, rodeos, blues festivals, street fairs, and other joyous displays of American culture. Maybe Charlie Kirk should move to Russia if he hates America so much.

[@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531]

Bingo. Shitstain 45's fans are obviously very pleased with a hateful, xenophobic, authoritarian type ruler figure (or someone who acts like one, despite the tiny hands and bone spurs) .. they would be happier under Putin. At first anyway. Before he shows them what authoritarians do with stupid people who they have no further use for.

[@kevinathans4191]

I'm sure Putin keeps a room available for him.

[@theelephantintheroom8016]

The Republican prefers to white wash history to hide the stains of the past.

[@mattwong5403]

Charlie Kirk complains about how this generation is full of "soyboy metrosexual beta males" who hate hard work and personal responsibility when he's a billionaire funded college dropout who blamed his rejection from West Point on affirmative action

[@cherylalt101]

@@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 Have you ever heard Yuri Bezmenov’s Warning to America (1984)? His take on socialism is a bit off IMO as many good governments have social democracy or democratic socialism now and at the time this predatory capitalism that is killing us now was only just beginning. Otherwise, he describes the demoralization of a country in a way that describes tramp supporters unbelievably accurately. There’s a short clip on a channel called West that pretty much says it all.

[@vertigo4236]

How weak and insecure do these people feel about themself, that they have a problem with getting remindet of their past? I'm German and I have no problem with that, I didn't do these things (obviously), but I damn well make sure they won't happen again here.

[@danielr.y5261]

I'm a Spaniard, and I have no problem with my country's imperialistic past being dragged to the light for scrutinity. The more we call a spade a spade the better, I say. I do not feel guilt because I myself didn't do any of these things. But I won't stop calling our country on that past just because it's my country. Conservatives believe that admission of mistakes and self-reflection are weaknesses. It's not just a stupid attitude to have. It's not only childish either. It's primitive and animalistic. They make apology for barbarism.

[@smoke301]

@@danielr.y5261 Man why can't more people be as open minded and educated as you?

[@brandonangstman]

@@danielr.y5261 im irish and German in my heritage with a wee bit of French. Ya take the good with the bad and ya don't beat around the bush, thats how I was taught ta see my families history.

[@Bakchoi13]

Thank you for that! In terms of past deeds…. Americans can’t get over it. Germans are a wonderful example of how to discuss and get past horrible things. May the wisdom and maturity of Germany visit us here!

[@ChrisPage68]

@@danielr.y5261 The last thing to do would to disband the Guardia Civil, Franco's former henchmen.

[@Alverant]

It's not a zero-sum game! Adding one doesn't take away from another. These are the same people who think allowing same-sex marriage someone takes away the rights from hetero-sex marriage.

[@PhilLesh69]

They have guilty consciences, obviously. We all have conservative friends and family, especially the more devout Christian types, who become visibly uncomfortable when the topic of racism comes up in discussion. Even in a quiet movie theater you can hear grumbles, people shifting in their seats and lots of coughing and hackling if a scene in the movie touches on anything suggesting racism or injustice toward black people.

[@kendallsmith1458]

Columbus Day could go...

[@neuralmute]

These are also the same people who think that any gains in equality made by women automatically make men somehow "less equal", so their logic is obvious less than stellar.

[@bunnyslippers191]

@@kendallsmith1458 I could get behind that!

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@@PhilLesh69 : Holy crap. It must suck so bad where you grew up. It's like each day I hear some horrific bullshit that makes me so grateful I grew up in the SF bay area. I've never experienced anything like that in a theater before, even back in the 70's. I just hardly know what to say sometimes. I always knew all forms of bigotry were abundant even there, and that it was much worse in some places, I just had no idea how prevalent it was. I'm very curious to know what cities or towns these experiences happen in.

[@RiiDii]

Talk about your "cancel culture." Funny how this holiday is viewed with such negativity; as if instead of adding to the concept of freedom America is founded on (really "making America great" versus "making America racist"), it is taking some freedom away? What freedom is being removed from anyone by adding this holiday? What liberty is being compromised? Christmas is a far more anti-liberty and anti-freedom holiday since it celebrates a single religion in the face of many others - in a country where religion is supposed to be separate from the state. But if we tried to balance those scales, there would be the cry of "cancel culture," right?

[@audreyquinn73]

@RiiDii: Excellent comment! You have eloquently and graciously explained exactly what I was feeling about this. Well done, you! Love from Ireland. ❤️🇮🇪🍀

[@sophierobinson2738]

It's not even the day Jesus was born. The flocks would be wintering, not out in the fields. April is more likely.

[@rotwang2000]

Pure bullying tactics, if they are not viciously attacking everything, they fall to the ground crying, saying they are the ones being oppressed.

[@dragonslayer616]

Best comment.

[@bigearl3867]

The thing I'm happiest about is Ms. Opel Lee living to see this become a holiday. Ms Opel has been fighting for this and helping this day stay alive in Texas for longer than I've been alive. She is another reason why I'm proud to say I'm from the South Side of Fort Worth.

[@jazzman.]

Did we go to UTA together?

[@karenjohannessen8987]

And if your want to watch her response, see Stephen Colbert from Thursday.

[@bigearl3867]

@@jazzman. What year we talking?

[@laurettelaliberte8864]

"Juneteenth was an attempt to make good on that promise. " Well put!!!

[@dalegreene6839]

I like it!

[@laurettelaliberte8864]

@Sal Valestra I think that's why he said attempt. It's a start, though late in coming.

[@nonnyena4267]

"Kirk. If you _don't_ know who he is, don't bother looking him up: *_It's not going to add anything of value to your life."_* Man, when Beau goes for a burn, he doesn't just half-piss around!

[@kevinathans4191]

Lol when he said Charlie Kirk I rubbed my hands together and said "this is going to be good!"

[@ericb.4313]

Beau goes for the jugular.

[@jasonreed6262]

yeah but i mean now i HAVE to know. he was right, it didn't really add anything, but my brain can't be told "don't look this up you don't need to know it" and then actually follow that command. that's not how brain works.

[@nonnyena4267]

@@jasonreed6262 It depends on who tells me i don't need to know something, the subject matter under discussion, and whether it sounds condescending or patronizing when i'm told it's not something i need to know. If it's a "Don't-worry-your-pretty-little-head-about-it"tone, there is no way in heaven or hell that i won't not only look it up, but i'll dig up any & all extraneous facts out there and bring 'em _all_ back and school _that_ assh*le. Not the case here.

[@timothyernst8812]

"If you don't know who he is, don't bother looking him up. It's not going to add anything of value to your life." This is the single best thing that could ever be said about this individual.

[@susanhewitt5602]

If Beau says that, I'll take him at his word!

[@DarkShroom]

but unfortunately now i will end up looking him up anyway lol

[@timothyernst8812]

@@DarkShroom He lives like a capitalist everyday: in his parents' basement.

[@reggieoverton4437]

Funny... but you know we got to look him up just to see who the ignoramus is...🤔🤔🤔 hahahhahaha's have a wonderful safe and happy Juneteenth holiday weekend God bless us, ALL...🙏🙏🙏

[@dolcevita5032]

Charlie, Lincoln was assassinated in April 1865 and Juneteenth was - well. . . Lincoln didn’t know about Juneteenth because Lincoln’s emancipation proclamation was not yet manifest, not until (Sigh) June 19th 1865. You do see where I’m going with this, Charlie. Charlie?

[@brandimcgee9781]

As a black woman, I have to say I really enjoy your content. You are fair, balanced and honest. Thank you.

[@thelonecabbage7834]

In an attempt to veil bigotry, people keep saying "We already have too many federal holidays. It's just another day off for the people who made it." Those same people tend to get quiet when you suggest swapping it out with Columbus day to minimize federal time off.

[@bighungrybrownbear]

Agreed, and why do we need to minimize Fed holidays? I work with Brits and they have a ton more days off and England is doing ok.

[@TheSuzberry]

Are these the same people who didn’t want a MLK Day?

[@qiyamahl9255]

Arizona still doesn't observe MLK Day

[@Jay-ho9io]

Yeeeeeeep.

[@docdirtymrclean3610]

Yes. Si. Da. Hai. Ja,. Haan.

[@denisemcdougal6445]

As a young black child in school I never understood why I was supposed to celebrate 4th or July. That day didn’t represent anything to black peoples. I’m happy for Juneteenth. It’s about time this country recognizes and takes responsibility for it’s evils

[@skippss01]

Yup I've never cared about the 4th cause they didn't consider us people. I'd rather have a Juneteenth bbq than a 4th

[@MrDaChicken]

As someone else said, just make it one big long holiday'! We already do that here. Canada Day is July 1. So near the border, which is damn near all of us, we just party from the 1st to the 4th. Like a zillion fireworks!. And now we have an excuse to go from the 19th to the 4th? I'm gettin old. Will need a nap break in there. But yay! Also, on a more serious note. Congratulations. It's a big deal. It Matters.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@@skippss01 : As a white kid I didn't care for it much either, as it represented the genocide of Native Americans, and the enslavement of black people. Both of whom I had friends who descended from. I don't care what color you are, or what shape you are, I care about your life and your hardships. Because I know the only path to true freedom is for is all to take responsibility for the freedom of everyone else. Junteenth is on a track to freedom for everyone. On a track to responsibility. I can get behind that.

[@a.d.w8385]

@james robinson Americans also celebrate Juneteenth.

[@denisemcdougal6445]

@Christopher Hoch I personally have gratitude, however what you expressed is Equivalent to that it happened a long time ago just get over it line

[@grannypeacock]

May I propose June 2nd marking the passage of the Indian Citizenship Act.

[@Jay-ho9io]

I adore that you said this, appreciate it, but doubt that enough will care.

[@reggieoverton4437]

YES, you may...Glad you did...please do. Natives, this is rightfully your land....🤔🤔🤔

[@joewilson3575]

I like the sentiment of this, but is commemorating the citizenship act more of a kick in the teeth to Indians? As I learned it in school a lot of them at the time were pretty resentful of US rule and didn't want citizenship, they rather would have had independence or at least autonomy. Giving them citizenship was the government stopping them from being "wards of the state" more or less to make them pay taxes or stop receiving benefits like they had been. Maybe there's a big cultural significance to Indians of the Indian citizenship act like juneteenth is to Blacks that I just don't know about but if not then it might be considered tone deaf. Perhaps something like Oneida v Oneida, New York (if I remember that right) would be better since I believe that was the first time the government gave stole land and self rule back to the Indians or whatever act overturned Termination or perhaps the date of the Indian New Deal would be better?

[@autumn.redhawke]

I LOVE this idea!

[@Jay-ho9io]

@@joewilson3575 There is no one Indigenous point of view in central North America (just like it would be ridiculous to expect all the countries in Europe to agree on something) and opinions have changed over time in regards to citizenship. The Act isn't a moment for most Indigenous communities that I know of, and certainly not like Juneteenth is. In that, I think you're correct. (The "benefits" recieved either presently or historically are no such thing. You don't pay benefits to your landlord, you pay them rent. When someone steals something from someone, pay the person they stole from "benefits" they pay them restitution. Indigenous Americans receive no benefits from the United States, or any state agency. It is impossible to benefit from those who have colonized your land.) So yes, it's a very different thing for Indigenous folks than it is for Black Americans. My only suggestion is that you remain aware that there's a WIDE range of political opinions in Indigenous spaces. Just because whites and everyone else treats them like a monolithic block, did not suddenly make 256+ separate countries, cultures and communities start thinking like one. And thank you for being more aware of actual events (like Oneida v Oneida). Appreciate that. 👍🏽

[@jeffhidalgo198]

Our collective history is all ours. Acknowledge it or relive it. Peace!

[@tonyantoine5823]

I hear so many people complaining about black people complaining. As if we just want to complain. Imagine how many of our complaints would stop if we were given full access to a country who respects our very existence. Thanks for always sharing clear thoughts Beau!

[@24gmj2010]

Well said young man!

[@Leonaza7]

This seems a bit of a let down. Like a pat on the back and "good job" to people who have fought for racial justice in the United States. This should be supported with tangible policy and systems change.

[@tiffakang4525]

I'm over it Leo, I'm over it. Let's talk about yt farmers complaining about the black farmers qualifying for loans and protections that are used to make up for CENTURIES of discrimination. 😥 I'm tired of this.

[@belkyhernandez8281]

Reparations.

[@meh.7539]

I like to think of this as a 'good step in the right direction' but I completely agree that it must continue with ground up reform of, ya know, all of it...

[@louisejohnson6767]

The elderly woman who has spent decades working tirelessly to make sure Juneteenth was recognized as a national holiday in America, she seemed pretty happy about it.

[@magpietexas9475]

@@belkyhernandez8281 @Tiffa Kang I think a lot of people are scared of this word. Reparations. When I first heard of it, I thought it would mean some kind of 'tax' on descendants of slave holders and paid to descendants of slaves. (pretty ignorant, huh?) This might be a metaphor for what people are actually scared of - white people are scared of losing their white privilege and having someone to feel "superior" over. Deep systemic change is absolutely necessary. I feel hopeful that there is progress being made. If an old white ("I'm not a racist") lady can gain more understanding, hopefully even more of the younger generation will carry it forward.

[@datbruvaful]

As a "Texas Boy" my family and I have been celebrating this holiday for the past 40 yrs of my life. Jus' glad to share✌🤣😊

[@princessnahema]

What no one on this board seems to get is that recognizing the day and celebrating it ain't wrong. It's that those dipshits in washing dont deserve another paid holiday. How about instead they use the day to fix inner city schools and infrastructure. Helping instead of going boating on their yatchs.

[@datbruvaful]

@@princessnahema I agree ma'am❤✌

[@mistermyself1128]

If you are from here, you should know it was a complete farce and the Emancipation Proclamation never freed anyone. It was a joke if anything. Written by a Lawyer to confuse people and make Europe stay out of the war, the North was about to lose if the South made the deal with European Nations, to start trade in the Gulf of Mexico.

[@michaelnurrenbrock7845]

I have been robbed of this joyous occasion until now. Progress has been so slow :/

[@princessnahema]

@Bro. Yahawadah nahema is actually daughter of Lilith and princess of the succubus demons. I like mythology and folklore alot. Now, people celebrating juneteenth is totally cool, I just think that given how bad both parties are they don't deserve another paid day off. And my heart is guarded, I am careful who I trust. Rich and powerful people tend to so things for money and not for the greater good. Minorities and lgbtq should be careful who they consider a friend. Why do these people claim to support me? Are they making money? Distracting from a scandal? Etc? I think all this support coming from corporate america and the deep state is not true. That's all.

[@dawnmarieallenkent2495]

There is at least one other holiday that needs re-naming... Columbus Day! Should be Native American Day of observance. Another horrible stain on our history and our first mass Genocide.

[@shawnr771]

Colombus Day is a waste of time. He.wasnt the first one to sail across the ocean. He was the first one history remembers.

[@Shadowman4710]

I love how the Reich Wing now supports July 4th as a "unifying" Holiday when it was purposely NOT celebrated in most of the South for 100 years out of spite.

[@briannichols9491]

Im not from the South...I dont care if someone chooses to celebrate or not

[@gingerfurrdjedi6211]

"Don't look him up, it won't add anything of value to your life" Never thought I'd hear Beau say to NOT look someone or something up.. I looked him up, Beau's right, not worth a damn.

[@MsBlue-dt6sh]

Next time you'll listen to Beau! 🤣😂🤣😂

[@Seamonkey555]

I'm so glad you're bringing more light to Juneteenth!

[@theengine5436]

Who can be against the end of slavery?

[@kathryncasey4114]

I have met people who would like to own other humans. Some of them admit it.

[@eleedee6046]

those who wanna stay in power!

[@cherylalt101]

@@kathryncasey4114 Comedian Paul Mooney died recently. Have you ever heard his thoughts on slavery or the last time white people were really happy? Edit: There’s a clip called White Folks Are Mad We Got Away. I think there’s a whole bunch of truth behind what Mooney joked about, especially for the United Daughters of the Confederacy and our confederate states who have worked tirelessly to change the narrative about the Civil War and claim it had nothing to do with slavery. They spread the lie that it was about states rights and put up all the statues and monuments celebrating confederate “heroes.” They have championed this “lost cause” idea that it was a war of northern aggression slaves were like part of the family and they have a great deal of political power.and funding still today along with preapproval of textbooks in the south and now all across America. These ladies have quietly been working since the end of the Civil War and are still at it. They’ve been very successful indoctrinating Americans with this false narrative. We have the actual history written by the governors and leaders of each confederate state with the reason they chose to go to war, but these ladies just pretended this info didn’t exist and rewrote history and they’ve gotten away with it. Anyway, Mooney’s very funny, but unfortunately, there’s more than a little truth behind it.

[@kendallsmith1458]

Stockholders of prisons for profit.

[@perrydon57]

Exodus 21?

[@filovirus1]

"we're still working on it. it's not over. because we still have people who think like you, Charlie" - _whippish_

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Only one thing stops us all from having peace and prosperity: bigotry.

[@marc21256]

2 years later, the "controversy" over acknowledging that Black people are citizens has not died down.

[@Ray-fr8iy]

It’s a unfortunate that kids will never understand why we celebrate Juneteenth because the right is adamantly objecting to crt

[@doloresreynolds8145]

What is crt?

[@Ray-fr8iy]

@@doloresreynolds8145 critical race theory

[@pmclaughlin4111]

Opal Lee's original thought was to make the two weeks between June 19 and July 4 as a Mardi Grad like celebration of American possibility.... it's just a thought

[@grmpEqweer]

Anything like Mardi Gras _totally_ has my approval. Freedom!

[@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas]

Well summer weather is better than Feb weather to going around flashing people. ;p

[@neuralmute]

I'd just like to point out that Pride is right in the middle of that window, so it would be a *perfect* time to be celebrating the beauty of diversity and freedom with great big parties!

[@grmpEqweer]

@@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas Yessir. A red white and blue pair of short shorts on a hot dude, a giant frozen hurricane in my hand, fabulous drag queens, joints getting passed, big-booty women in tight shorts, a happy crowd full of chill, weird people of every ethnicity imaginable... That is my America...😁

[@grmpEqweer]

@@neuralmute Yesss! Yes indeed.😁. We're gonna have so much freedom! 🌈

[@humilitybeforehonorsmk2311]

I've been celebrating Juneteenth so making it a federal holiday doesn't move me as much as passing the John Lewis voting rights act, the George Floyd police act, infrastructure, etc. Passing Juneteenth will not pacify me. Ijs.

[@Wednesdaywoe1975]

And it shouldn't. But look at the backlash. There wouldn't be all this hate directed at-what? Taking a day off in June to bbq?BBQ?- if it didn't matter.

[@LadyPinkster]

I was about to say the same thing, I'm glad Opal Lee was able to see this in her lifetime through.

[@faithfulgrl]

I am 62 yrs old. Last year (2020) is the first time I had ever heard of Junteenth. So much for our education system. Thank you Beau. Blessings to all 🍃😇🍃

[@valeriecharboneau308]

I’m 54 and grew up in Ohio and I never heard of Juneteenth until the last two years. Utterly written out of the history books where I lived.

[@TraceyJean]

In Jamaica, Independence Day and Emancipation Day are pretty close together - August 1 and August 6. They're both national holidays so the majority don't work and we just have a lot of celebrating. I can still remember going to parades as a child and dancing in the streets. It's always a good time and a history lesson combined.

[@CSXIV]

"We shouldn't have two end of the year holidays with family gatherings, so I can't support this Thanksgiving holiday because it forces you to choose between Christmas and Thanksgiving."-Nobody. Not even some guy whose name rhymes with Tarley Jerk.

[@davizshawilliams1787]

Bring it home with Christmas and New Year's Eve AND New Year's Day within one week of each other...

[@debrasmith4675]

One man named Beau sure has a lot of clear, balanced and fair thoughts!

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Yea. And he's attracted a whole lot of like minded people. Let's make this world a better place for everyone. ^-^

[@mytobytobster]

Now on to Federal Voting Day!! Charlie Kirk will have a stroke.

[@terracebrooks320]

Yes! That could counter the over 400 bills designed to keep certain people from voting.

[@Cookie-sf6fs]

Oh now that would be unAmerican - and lord forbid more voting statins and water being handed out

[@donnasantiago9245]

Good!

[@WinterSo1dier]

One can hope

[@juliecrable3443]

I whole heartly support Juneteenth and believe it is long overdue.

[@suqmadiq68]

"All men are created equal"* * Some restrictions apply, not available in all states. See your owner or husband for details.

[@akeylawallace4420]

Omg

[@payanyprice4710]

🤣👍👏

[@sabotagesavant5277]

Your comment should be placed higher in this list so less obsessive readers would see it. Good One !

[@rtyertrt7876]

And if you have additional questions call 1 800 1-800 180 service may be out so please stand by your phone for at least 3 to 7 months

[@brendasmall8178]

Thank you Beau for making this Holiday clarity to the minds of Americans that refused to acknowledged freedom for Black Americans By White Americans !!! 👍🏾

[@jonathanknoche6371]

I m just irritated that we demand deep systemic change and Congress goes, "Best we can do is a federal holiday that your bosses will make you work anyway."

[@shawnr771]

And Congress gets to take the day off with pay.

[@roannathephoenix8561]

Maybe "all men are created equal" should be changed to "all humans are created equal". It's just a thought. Y'all have a good day.

[@kendallsmith1458]

At the time it only applied to property owning white males. That's federalism for ya!

[@rimbusjift7575]

Or we can be honest and add a *not* .

[@randomgirl3po]

How about an equal rights amendment, then maybe mras will finally shut the hell up

[@tammystockley-loughlin7680]

I've interpreted it that way since my 4th grade teacher read it to us...thanks Ms. Wilson. Positive vibes from New Hampshire and remember to be kind to each other and yourself

[@shawnr771]

@Joseph Norm Good point.

[@charlesjumper7801]

Why don’t we have MORE holidays celebrating freedom?

[@LazyIRanch]

Maybe because a third of our country doesn't want freedom, they want a "Kim" style dictatorship with an endless trump family member as "dear leader". I live in the midst of rabid trumpsters that are STILL saying that we libtards are going to be crying when their militias start their "war" next month so that they can reinstate 45 in the white house in August. They love Qanon around here. I hope these bozos do try something. Then we can lock up some more dangerous extremists.

[@fayetarajcak8799]

To form a more perfect union!!!

[@medusagorgo5146]

Wait… is there some sort of limit of the number of holidays that we can celebrate that I’m not aware of? Because I’m pretty sure most people are always up for holiday, at least I am.

[@maryanneslater9675]

A Hindu guy once told me that a lot of Hindus appreciate Christmas. "Another holiday where families get together to give each other gifts and eat too much good food? We're down for that."

[@judithjanes5738]

Let's run them together: National SUMMER Holiday, Juneteenth to July 4th! Everybody takes off work with pay! Would that make old Charlie happy?

[@krystle2312]

We have something similar in Australia and the most people with kids take the entire time off (our summer is Dec-Feb). Christmas to Jan 26 (Australia day). Those without kids typically go back to work after New Years and then take the rest of vacation time when school is in session.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@@krystle2312 : That sounds awesome. I would love if we had your voting system even more. You guys have your messes too, but you sure do some things way way better. That multiple parties thing alone makes me wish I lived there.

[@nightshadow73]

fSouth Korea and China both have major holidays that takes about two weeks of the year.

[@alanai1981]

I’m with that movement. Like golden week in Japan

[@nathanh6439]

That would be awesome! Except about 75% of workers in the U.S. are in service jobs. Restaurants, hotels, grocery stores, gas stations, everything would be closed. It would be one heck of a learning experience for many people, though. Surviving for two weeks without McD's, Walmart, or Amazon. I'm in!

[@melissamiller2696]

Let's really mess him up and declared the adoption of the 19th amendment's ratification, the women's right to vote, another summer holiday: August 18. That pretty much encompasses the bulk of Americans then. All three declare freedom as a natural right through a major event.

[@LazyIRanch]

Melissa, I LOVE this idea! I think workers deserve more federal holidays, and November's election day is another that needs to be a paid holiday. Most civilized European countries give workers long paid holidays, at least 2 weeks worth. Our country could give a paid day off once a month, there are always historical events throughout the year to commemorate. One day off won't kill any companies, but it sure would help the workers that the companies rely on to make them rich.

[@j.maguire5781]

American summers of freedom, every year! This is beautiful!

[@bethwaller1789]

YES!!! Hell yes!!!

[@whoamI-in9jq]

What about HR1 or the George Floyd bill? This is a bandage on a gun shot wound!

[@MrDaChicken]

Look at it more like the " planting a tree you won't get to sit under " type of thing. It's inherently good, and they could get it passed Quickly and easily. Even most of the r's weren't ballsy enough to vote against it.

[@Bakchoi13]

It’s window dressing. The protests last year were about cops killing blacks. Juneteenth will become reality when THAT stops happening. It’s been said before “Keep your eyes on the Prize”

[@thomasridley8675]

Those inconvenient parts of history can't be ignored. Or we end up with a false view of how we got too this point.

[@donnasantiago9245]

And this Country did things that were not right and we need to figure out how to fix this properly. We had slave owners and they owned black people as slaves. No one should ever own another human being. I don't care what color they are. This behavior was wrong and must be acknowledged as such in order to take a step into a new future.

[@thomasridley8675]

@@donnasantiago9245 Very true ! Ignorance is bliss ! And totally voluntary.

[@k33k32]

My company made Juneteenth a holiday for us a few years ago. As a Southerner, i can't tell you how happy that makes me to feel like we can take another small step toward walking the talk.

[@tolowreading6807]

"If you don't know who he is, don't bother looking him up. It won't add anything of value to your life" Thanks for the morning guffaw!

[@vxicepickxv]

It's some brutal honesty.

[@tolowreading6807]

@@vxicepickxv I agree. Hearing it in a resonant voice with a cool accent makes it a little less painful...

[@Joseph-ro6wq]

Columbus did not discover America! Nor did he ever step foot on the continent but we have a national holiday for him.

[@shawnr771]

Yep we should get tid of it. He was a slave trader.

[@lateralus0678]

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union... Sometimes my fellow Americans forget that this Union is imperfect, and we will always be working to form a more perfect Union.

[@dustfreequeen5151]

They gave asians protection and blacks a holiday! 🤔

[@fredericrike5974]

They passed a law we shouldn't have needed- now will the already undermanned PDs step up? The people who do these things are not all entirely crazy- they look for moments when they think no one else is looking or any retribution will be slow coming. But it was a good sign. FR

[@RevelationsUnveiledDetroit]

If All Men Were Created Equal, JUNETEENTH Would Be Unnecessary.

[@rtyertrt7876]

Not really one doesn't want to work he worked to death so holidays are Central so we all can take a breath and chill

[@candacea7914]

Hey Beau!!!!! Thank you for always speaking truths & being an ally. ❤️

[@margaretnicol3423]

Now keep it going and make a federal holiday of Voting Days so everyone can get to vote!

[@marvmonti8608]

In my Trump so called s hole country the Gov makes business give time off to vote....while the Beacon on the hill country example of Democracy continues to make it increasingly harder to vote.

[@drinkiceteaable]

@@marvmonti8608 So what you're saying is... That you would also support having the federal government make election day a paid holiday. Great, glad we can agree on one thing. Could you tell that to the republicans in Congress too because house democrats have tried to pass legislation to do just that and they were blocked multiple times.

[@marvmonti8608]

@@drinkiceteaable Agreed 💯

[@marvmonti8608]

@@lindaj4918 They give us 2hrs and we roster ourselves so we don't stop work flow.

[@margaretnicol3423]

@@lindaj4918 Tough! They'll have to organize shift work. Staff do 4 hours instead of 8 but still get paid for the full day.

[@iversonmatthew]

If they really wanted to help… They would right the injustices. This just seems symbolic to me.

[@simonrmerton]

Symbols are powerful things. Your flag is one.

[@margaretjohnson6259]

symbolism has a purpose. it's a uniting factor.

[@iversonmatthew]

@@simonrmerton I owe a country and society that chooses for me to beg for my surgeries absolutely nothing.

[@shelbypowell9919]

It is symbolic, and an attempt to wash hands, but it’s still a net win for us. The US government has declared emancipation as worthy of celebration. That makes it a hell of a lot harder to defend slavery.

[@PhilLesh69]

Don't forget that the Christian conservative answer to tragic gun violence is, has been and will always be "thoughts and prayers."

[@truthurts1692]

" 'cause we still have people who think like you, Charlie..." truth is we have them in abundance here...

[@conradsurak6060]

Guess it's easier to create a holiday than it is to create equality for its people

[@magpietexas9475]

Good morning Beau Peeps :) HAPPY JUNETEENTH!!!!!

[@HALee-]

Interesting pun!

[@d123mahesh2]

Fourth!!! 💐👍🏾

[@Andrea.1tree]

🌻👋🏼😄

[@d123mahesh2]

@@HALee- Beau Peeps? That’s the name we’ve had for a couple of years now. Also Beaugles (long story).

[@HALee-]

@@d123mahesh2 yes, I know that. I was referring to Little Bo Peep of the nursery rhyme. Little Bo Peep has lost her Sheep and doesn’t know where to find them.

[@Leonaza7]

Such a paradox: Reading all over the news that some states are banning teaching critical race theory in public schools, while their legislators voted to establish this as a national federal holiday.

[@tiffakang4525]

😡

[@discingaround]

The 'Party of Lincoln' should embrace it. Just a thought.

[@olmcmonnie7445]

Well said

[@FireFlamazo]

A comment I see concerning Juneteenth is that there still were slaves that didn't go free until later when the 13th amendment was put in place, so therefore it wasn't the day slavery was ended. Please be sure to remark that July 4th is our independence day, however the vote for independence took place on July 2nd, the Declaration of Independence being approved on July 4th, publicly reiterating the fact. But noone whines about that, because we understand the spirit of that event, it is a day chosen to commemorate our independence. Consider also that technically we declared ourselves free, but we still were fighting the Revolutionary War for several years afterwards, arguably not free yet in practice. Juneteenth is a great day to celebrate, whether it's celebrating slaves in Texas finally getting their freedom, or generally marking a moment in time to celebrate the abolishing of slavery... ...Although the 13th amendment would give a loophole for convicts to be enslaved, and convicts today are most definitely being used for dirt cheap labor, and an entire ecosystem formed around incarceration to feed into this cheap labor pool... but that's a story for another time. We got a lot of work to do but enjoy the little moments.

[@shawnr771]

Also a loophole for voluntary servitude. AKA as volunteering for the military. While in the military, Constitutional laws are replaced by the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

[@almitrahopkins1873]

Slavery didn't end in the Oklahoma territory until the 1880's. I don't remember the exact year, but slavery was legal for the Cherokee and Choctaw in the territory until just before statehood. That's the origin of the Freedmen. They're black, but the BIA kind of half-assed regards them as Native.

[@joehiser845]

Let's talk about how the founding fathers had issue with saying all men are created equal while owning slaves so where's your outrage now charlie

[@somethingclever4563]

I'm happy they did that But it also pisses me off. If they can do it for this then why in the hell can they not make election day a federal holiday so everyone can vote?! Oh wait that's bc the GOP doesn't want everyone to vote. That's stance alone makes them a clear and present danger to our fragile democratic republic.

[@bruh.4992]

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[@GetMedQ]

I guess you don't seprate slavery from EVERYTHING else

[@silkcitysocialist420]

Agreed! I'm in NJ. We just just had a primary on June, 8th. My husband had to rush from work and made it to the polls with 3 minutes to spare! It's hard to participate if you can't find the time!

[@DarrenWaters75]

The GOP didn't want this either, the only NO votes came from republicans.

[@metsfanal]

Manchin is holding up the voting rights bill, but he counter offered a bill which includes making election day a holiday. So hopefully it passes and we'll get that too. This world needs a lot more holidays to just sit down and decompress. Seems like tensions are running so high. Plus we need to stop commuting for global warming sake.

[@LoveWhatuDo33]

Symbolism helps nothing for that specific community just saying they need bills and laws passed not a holiday.

[@blacksmith67]

Agreed. This can go either way, bringing attention needed to spur on real change, or making the powers that be complacent by believing that they have already accomplished something.

[@intuitionz1198]

I said something similar to this last night. I could be wrong but it really seems to me but the purpose of this is to say " lookie lookie, we did this for you. now shut up for another couple hundred years".

[@UnknownVir]

@@intuitionz1198 I honestly think it's less about "shut up" but more about "allies" patting themselves on the back. Popular support is an important but fickle thing. Just like dog whistles, it's not about the people using them but rather those that can't hear them and think people who can are reacting over nothing.

[@thisrighthere]

We need crt, i see a lot of y'all need it.

[@garrettperez9439]

Only thing people need to know about Charlie Kirk is that his head Is shaped like a potato

[@ninjalokust]

And the longer you look at his facial features the smaller they become in relation to the size of his potato head.

[@brentwalker3300]

Is Charlie the Mr. Potatohead all the conservatives are screaming about? LMFAO.

[@Dave1507]

tbh, everybodies head is shaped kinda like a potato.

[@PhilLesh69]

Saw a headline today that said several tubers were lost on a river in Georgia and I thought to myself that we used to call them goobers but they could also be called potato heads, I suppose.

[@railroad7401]

Damn, now i gotta look up Charlie Kirk! I want to mock him too!

[@tford8129]

Took them two years to get out that slavery was over.

[@sneese850]

Too many people just LOOKING for something to be outraged about. As far as I'm concerned this is something that should have been acknowledged and celebrated a long time ago.

[@margaretnicol3423]

I saw some comments along the lines of ''I don't know why black people should get a day off. What about the rest of us?'' I guess they didn't understand 'federal holiday'.

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

They believe in "Rules for me and not for thee" legislations, so I guess they assume everyone else operates on the same principle.

[@railroad7401]

Holidays are a good thing. Breweries love holidays!

[@PhilLesh69]

Remember what "greaseman" said on DC101 FM when they made Martin Luther King day a national holiday. That's how these Christian supremacists think, talk and act.

[@margaretnicol3423]

@@railroad7401 In that case we need to share the love. Hic! I do what I can.

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

@@PhilLesh69 Please, remind us

[@billd9667]

It’s now codified that Texas held out on freeing their slaves. THAT is the problem in Texas. They don’t want a national holiday enshrining their cruelty. To them, I say “It wasn’t you that did this. The people that did it are long gone. It’s up to you to move on.”

[@nightshadow73]

except that Texas has been celebrating Juneteenth for years. Even teach it in their history. I'm from the Pacific NW and never even heard of Juneteenth until 3 years ago.

[@donanders2110]

It has been a state holiday in Texas by law since 1980!

[@billd9667]

I’m happy to admit that I was wrong 🙂 Now, if only Texas would stop trying to disenfranchise black voters....

[@epona9166]

Declaring a federal holiday doesn't codify anything. At best it acknowledges it.

[@reggieoverton4437]

So, tired of the caste system, we are ALL, human beings...no one absolutely not no one is better than the other regardless of what skin tone you were blessed with...🤔🤔🤔

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Indisputable facts. Classism is the original form of bigotry. And once there were different classes, the elite needed a way to control everyone, so they invented racism and monotheism, followed closely by misogyny and homophobia, and on and on until bigots all across the world would even die to keep the wealthy elite rich in their positions of power and wealth. And here we are thousands of years later. But we *are* winning over time.

[@reggieoverton4437]

@@aylbdrmadison1051 Hi, fellow Internet Person... I know it's also about $$$, ( funding & etc.) too. Shm 🤔🤔🤔 have a wonderful wonderful safe and happy Juneteenth weekend... Harriet Tubman said, I FREED a thousand slaves & I could have freed a thousand more, if only they knew they were, slaves... 🤔🤔🤔 Peace.

[@ferinzz]

Thank you for this. I had no idea what this holiday was yesterday when I saw all the American staff getting a day off. This IS indeed an important day to commemorate. Thank you for putting this so well.

[@celieboo]

Yes, Juneteenth is important, but as a black woman, making Juneteenth a national holiday was not a priority. Black people didn't ask for this. Our "betters" are throwing political crumbs to the black community. Black people have asked for an antilynching bill, police reform, Healthcare, student loan forgiveness, reparations, etc. Those things will actually help us. Making Juneteenth a national holiday doesn't help the Black community and just gives corporations another reason to have a special "sale".

[@Kazutoification]

Right? If they wanted to do something for the Black community (or just all communities), they should've made Election Day a holiday. Or a week-long holiday.

[@nealskrenes2612]

This is the type of “critical race theory” that white supremacists don’t want taught in school- I think it might be more valuable to you and addressing racism than you may have first realized. www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/style/opal-lee-juneteenth.html

[@anthonynorman7545]

@@Kazutoification a week is a long time without pay for hourly workers.

[@anthonynorman7545]

I agree with all of this, but it'll be easier for me to explain why I don't celebrate the 4th of July.

[@mattplein381]

I couldn't agree more. I'm a little conflicted because sure, it's nice that it's been made a federal holiday and I do think it's important to recognize it's significance but also it kinda feels like a wasted opportunity to do something actually meaningful. Ultimately this new holiday will become like many others, a day where some people get a paid day off of work and others don't

[@equious8413]

I'm so early! Love you Beau. Screw the Right.

[@blacksmith67]

Most excellent observation and setting of context. I swear that ignoring context is half of the arsenal on the conservative side of the culture war.

[@blacksmith67]

@high creative blood.. شگرف

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Ignoring reality is the other half.

[@d123mahesh2]

👋🏾Add: Juneteenth, MLK day….anything to honor the history of CP is something that seems to set their teeth on edge.

[@Andrea.1tree]

👋🏼🌻 I could say something impolite about their dna, and it’s need for diversity. A joke comes to mind.

[@d123mahesh2]

@@Andrea.1tree A way to be rascist without being rascist.

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

@@d123mahesh2 I think she meant the white supremacists and bigots could use some genetic diversity

[@d123mahesh2]

@@sluttyMapleSyrup Oh. I know. I was just talking in parallel that’s all.

[@railroad7401]

Why would anyone bitch about another excuse to get hammered?

[@Mawethu2]

Voting day up next 🗳

[@tonyroc8423]

Thank you for that Beau, I usually use what you say when dealing with my friends from different socioeconomic backgrounds as myself. It’s very much appreciated to see others understand.

[@MrJondon76]

👍 it’s a step in a journey forward

[@sedonasky7314]

"cause we still have people that think like you Charlie" ❤️

[@reggieoverton4437]

Think what he wants, it is what it is and gon be...life rewards those who honor what is great...and for the most part black people have made a way, out of no way...🤔🤔🤔👏👏👏👍👍👍👊👊👊

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

I'm really proud of these parts of America's history. Those who overcame the many struggles imposed upon them. Stay strong brothers and sisters. We are all one family, whether the racists like it or not. Whoever you may be who reads this: you are my sibling and that means something to me. We can *all* have peace and prosperity, only bigotry is stopping us. The sooner we all start acting like a team, the sooner *all* of our lives will be enriched in multitudes of ways. This includes bigots. It's in their own best interest to stop being bigoted.

[@reggieoverton4437]

@@aylbdrmadison1051 Wow, you are AWESOME !!! Well said, SPEAK... may God always keep you and bless you

[@acupunctureclinic4216]

So well said

[@reggieoverton4437]

@@aylbdrmadison1051 bigotry IS ONLY STOPPING, them from being comfortable in their own life, in their own skin... So, sad too bad for them. It was MG.Gordon Granger & the Union Soldiers, that made 1863, possible that day in 1865... Juneteenth, is an event, HUMANITY, SELFLESSNESS, DETERMINATION, A PLEDGE to let a group of people know they were FREE @ LAST... AMEN🙏🙏🙏 I FREED a thousand slaves, could have FREED a thousand more...if only they know they were slaves...🤔🤔🤔 Harriet Tubman...

[@vaughncook8815]

Black men also fought in the revolutionary war under their own accord after earning freedom from slavery in the hope that all men could be equal in this new nation...

[@finnmcool2]

The founding of the USA did not establish a reality, it assigned homework. Freedom and equality are the tasks that were set by the people that came before us in this country. We've barely started on it nearly 250 years later. Largely because, like most group projects, too many people are just dragging the whole group down preventing progress.

[@matthewdunham1689]

Hey Beau!

[@d123mahesh2]

Second!!! 💐👍🏾

[@devilsdaughter938]

Speaking of summer holidays, the solstice is coming up 💙 blessings to all who celebrate

[@sabotagesavant5277]

Yep, right around the corner. I will be observing the solstice.

[@fredericrike5974]

So Mote It Be! FR

[@GeeksandGrub]

For those wondering how Conservatives like Kirk claim that there are two competing Independence Days, the name of Senate Bill 547 is, "The Juneteenth National Independemce Day Act." This is the bill that recognizes Juneteenth as a federal holiday. I can only guess that because "Independence Day" is in the bill title, Conservatives like Kirk are no longer able to distinguish between Juneteenth and Independence Day.

[@yvonneplant9434]

Many of these conservatives, like Kirk, have never set foot in Philadelphia, never been near Independence Hall, never been in the Liberty Bell Pavilion, Constitution Center, Franklin's house/center or set one single toe on the exact place where Franklin is buried. Or the Graff House although, yes, it is a reproduction. Don't have a clue where the Phila. colonial churchs or colonial cemeteries are. Betsy Ross' house? They don't know where that is either. They just talk about freedom and independence. That's it.

[@treeboar711]

At least 35 countries (including the US) celebrate an Emancipation Day, and 65 countries celebrate Independence from Britain (on average every 5.6 days somewhere on the planet). The ignorance of the indignant is impressive

[@a-donflores4836]

The face you have when you say "don't bother looking him up it's not gonna add anything of value to your life" is just my default face now😂 I'm so tired of these people

[@christineesposito8169]

I for one was thrilled to see the elation at the signing. I hope this is the beginning of systemic change and not just a token.

[@cf87]

Maybe another way to reach those on the right...Veterans Day and Memorial Day. The holidays go hand-in-hand, but don't compete. If we can't have similar holidays...then we should just have one day to honor those in service. See, that aint gonna happen, because Memorial Day and Vets Day comemorate two different aspects.

[@dvhughesdesign]

True. But many on the right love to disregard specific aspect of either of those days and simply fetishize the military equally on both, and will also throw in July 4th as well to "thank you for your service" and "respect the troops." Juneteenth does not give them the opportunity to wrap themselves up in a flag.

[@stephenjames2690]

Juneteenth commemorations were limited to Black people in Texas until very recently. I disagree that the date marked the beginning of the nation's attempt to live up to its principles, in 1865. Texas slave holders knew in 1863 that Lincoln had issued the Emancipation Proclamation. It was only the arrival of federal troops that forced them to comply. I think making it a national holiday now is much more significant. I also agree that there needs to be a national day of recognition for American Indians. Not simply to condemn the past, but to show where we are today.

[@lynn_thinks]

I think Beau meant that making it a holiday (and the education that will come from that) is the step towards making good on the promise.

[@stephenjames2690]

@@lynn_thinks I agree. I just think that it represents more about change in the US today than it did about principles in 1865. It's a good thing.

[@fredericrike5974]

There is a whole discussion we could have about reparations- for all minorities in the US and Territories. FR

[@stephenjames2690]

@@fredericrike5974 I agree that there needs to be a discussion; but, I think there is a gradual acknowledgment of that need. I wouldn't say that it's about minorities. After all, "White" men are a minority, in relation to the population. Some are complaining that "cancel culture" is giving them actual minority status. For them, any discussion or presentation of history offends them. So, they attempt to repress it. If Juneteenth does nothing else, it'll spark a discussion. That is, if it just doesn't become a shopping and barbecue opportunity as meaning-ful as J4.

[@fredericrike5974]

@@stephenjames2690 There is that. It shouldn't take more than a short bit before a larger connection between Juneteenth and Memorial Day becomes apparent- both were found first in the Black minority community post Civil War. By the time of WW1, Memorial Day had been inducted into the formalities at Arlington National Cemetery and Juneteenth and the Emancipation Proclamation were a five minute presentation and done classroom exercise before going to lunch. So, Stephen, I guess you and I should keep our eyes peeled and vote every chance we get. My little Windstar has seating for six, eight if cozy is your thing- when I go to the polls, it is always my ambition to fill as many of those empty seats as possible. How about you? FR

[@UstinkOfFea3]

Couldn't said it better honestly... Great video sir👍🏾

[@renrick]

Frederick Douglas, July 4, 1852, look up his speech about the former slave being asked to speak at a 4th parade. Poignant speech...