Let's Talk Anti-Drama In Wuthering Waves.

[@TopTOBiiiii]

3:08 You reached that goal from my side

[@TheShyOne__]

The only drama Wuwa has is the one people create on reddit or yt like you guys with tectone etc. Outside of that bubble people literally dont give a shit or dont see it.

[@ZakuZuko]

Very true.

[@Violet-0]

The problem with all the dramas is how it’s always ‘scripted’ in a sense of being able to predict it during a certain period: dry patch or end of patch. It’s indeed content for the community. As for me, I still play the big 4 gachas or other genre of games. So I have my personal content I can cycle through, while drama is legitimately like a live action show entertainment.

[@letsrank9349]

I feel like outside of Tectone's clique (no offense), the Wuthering Waves community is really happy and chill. Rexlent, GambaAJ, Jordinkun, GlaiveKiyo and so much more people that I can't remember. It's a really chill community. Most of Tectone's clique deliver negative perceptions of people that do not play Wuthering Waves (Twitter, r/gachagaming, etc.) either for engagement or journalism.

[@redfoxakame]

Bro Tectone isn't even making content recently. He was only back for 2 days?? The only WuWa content he put out was his reaction to the trailer and tell me which part of it was drama baiting. But people have been talking about this "drama in gacha community" for awhile. I think y'all shouldn't blame Tectone all the time just bc you think he's toxic. Plus the dude didn't even put out any hate video towards WuWa. He loves that game, you know?

[@PikachuPolice]

​@@redfoxakamewatch tectone dramas video views and then say

[@ZakuZuko]

​@redfoxakame lol u for real? His the king of drama content. Yea his been gone for couple of weeks but that doesnt change what he has be doing. 😂

[@redfoxakame]

@@ZakuZuko I was talking about the WuWa community as the commenter has said. Do you guys have reading comprehension? Not bc bro covers drama doesn't mean everything is his fault.

[@letsrank9349]

​@@redfoxakame i know, it's his friends who are the issue. Tectone himself reacts to drama but never starts it, but Mr. Pokke for example, yikes.

[@Doro-bashi]

Just now on Facebook there's a drama, where Wuthering Waves Global has been overtaken from Hoyostans and are shitting in the game non-stop without proper moderation The majority of Wuwa players are now migrating to Wuthering Waves Café, running from the sabotaged page 😢

[@VxVFiction]

got links? hit me up on discord!

[@Doro-bashi]

@@VxVFiction done!, my job as reporter is completed

[@renjouji]

Like wow :o gladly im on wuwa cafe group .. and they are moderated completely fine.. i didn't know that and quiet shock since im on fb too

[@renjouji]

Well i guess maybe fb is such a close space ..

[@haru_sohma1219]

​​@@Doro-bashiso you are one of us migrants eh? Been fighting with the sh!tposters for weeks now. I just left that group, mods are ignoring baits.

[@22peanutt]

I'm glad to know that gacha itself are evolving, nte, wuwa etc. but i enjoy the game as it is, i don't mind about revenue wars, drama whatever. I play game to enjoy, spread my love, people just forget why we play games in the first place.

[@Goldberry1303]

Yes!

[@AleASanti-mw5wv]

"I should be the only mf getting praised" at the end

[@GenuinelyTired]

So... - content creators stirr up drama between each other. - they generate community interaction and it does in fact generate a spike in views. - content creators realize this could be the new M.E.T.A. but not long term. - proceeds to milk/farm the concept making it the new trend (A.K.A. M.E.T.A.) - it starts to get (to the majority) over saturated, bland, boring and the community points it out. - it in fact starts to drop as a trend due to regurgitation but also due to the creation of unhealthy and unregulated ecosystem. - content creators start to clap back claiming the community is toxic. - the community that's not toxic claps back that they're also all in one box, (going an eye for an eye) and claim majority of content creators are all the same chasing the trends. - this makes a new trend that falls into "drama" but it's actually two sub categories in the main category, (Gacha space) beefing with each other. - things get out of hand and content creators start admitting they "spiced" things up, but there's nothing wrong with it. - they start claiming that drama is a part and it doesn't mean it's negative, also claiming not all was in fact drama rather "open discussion" - the community that wasn't toxic that clapped back due to misrepresentation, claim they've been saying this all this time. - both community and content creators agree that in fact most "drama" was 'nothing burgers' . OBSERVATIONS: - absolutely dilute the inception of the whole saga, which was the root cause of the general issue. - extreme use of the Droste effect in a inspirational sense, due to the nature of Droste effect. - unintentionally escalate the situation (questionable/arguable) - raise awareness of the situation, and proceed to act as the peacekeepers. - draw the conclusion that in fact one side is to blame, and begins to restart the process with a different perspective. Moral of the story: "Wisdom is knowing what to do next. Skill is knowing how to do it. Virtue is doing it." Explanation: The creator is the ultimate winner, due to the immense power the creator withholds which is at core knowledge. The less knowledge one has, the harder to go against one that has knowledge. ☕ *Edit* ***VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO CLARIFY THE WORD 'CREATOR' HERE*** I don't mean creator as content creator rather in the sense of who created a specific scenario.

[@2BAMaster9]

Facts

[@Gepardosaurus]

8:00 No that's not how the algorythm works. i never watch any genshin videos, punishing grey ravens or aether grazer since those games are bad in my opinion. i only watch some news regarding wuthering waves but i still get consistently recommendet videos about these 3 games because the algorythm thinks i want to see this, i don't. No matter how many times i press don't show more/block channel it will always come back withing 1 week. sometimes even the exact same video. I do not care for any drama in gacha games since i don't consider myself part of the community anyway. Still those videos pop up and infest my recommendations.

[@MO-nj7tj]

yep i reported this channel for spreading hate and here we are still getting recommended. i feel if they actively spent money to advertise this channel even if you block them it will show up.

[@shiroeikami8467]

If you're using PC, when your let pointer hover then stay for few sec on thumbnail, it get autoplayed and it also consider as you viewed it and it'll be registered to your history. If it's on mobile, when you're scrolling through, some video might be autoplayed, that also considered as viewed on your history. Part of it, I think that's because of genre that's attached to Wuwa. It shared a lot of genre with Genshin, it's from same company as PGR, Aether Gazer also an action game. All of them is gacha games. People who play WuWa most likely had tried these other games. You might also accidentally give view to "drama" for few seconds from different source. Not necessarily from game. Then it will registered on your history as well. And the algorythm will pick that up.

[@Gepardosaurus]

@@shiroeikami8467 I have it disabled that hovering over it will autoplay. I don't use KZbin on phone either. The algorythm chooses videos to recommend based on Tags, Categories and a few other factors which is why it will continuously give me those recommendations. I don't understand why you want to explain to me how the algorythm works but it doesn't matter to me. If i press "Not interested" on 3 games specificaly then it should register that i do not wish to see videos containing those games. The main point was the misinformation given by the video that if you watch drama that you get drama recommendet which just isn't true.

[@Meteor-ThunderBears]

​@@shiroeikami8467The problem is there's so much Hoyo ads that I can't skip. And that's where this recommendation came from. I can't even 5 yt shorts without any Hoyo ads at all.

[@shiroeikami8467]

@@Gepardosaurus Oh, you'll be surprise how many people don't know about this stuffs, considering this has autoplay and can gather info from your phone then display ads based on what you recently talk. The part of don't click has truth to it. You'll get exponentially more if you click one. Like if I click Dr.Mike video, I'll temporary see more health stuffs on my recommendation.

[@Starrky923]

4:30 that's true for all the online games tho- patch comes out, 2 weeks later everyone is done with it, wait 2 months for next patch. If anything it's less in gacha due to way more frequent updates

[@Nox_ee94]

I dont know... its 1 thing if we are taking all reaction content and slamming it with al the drama but thats not it, I think you took this in a too personal perspective instead of looking at the drama that this space went through. take the recent Gachasmack pokke situation (note this is NOT the most egregious but just the most recent i can think of rn) that thankfully just died quickly instead of going back to back for a few weeks. there is a difference to disagreeing and starting a conversation against someones perspective and pausing the video before someone finishes making their point because you are fishing for what to criticize and put them down on, unfortunately the format alot more creators use to structure reaction content in order for it to be transformative comes at the detriment of not giving a fair and honest critique at points where its due. Some of the drama is warranted, like the Iyo situation in a vacuum its not but when you see the twitter comments he made the community response is warranted somewhat and when u see his comment section his own reaction is warranted somewhat, im not bothered particulary by that kind of drama and im fine just tuning out when Ivehad enough. However when there is little drama to be had you will see CCs reach harder than a golden fishing rod to start some shit and EVERYONE covers it as if it really required EVERYONE'S take on a nothing burger of a bad take and thats where you all lose me personally. but drama is drama, nobody can say its not competitively easier to grow a channel based off it if its in abundance because if that were the case reality TV on cable when we have all these streaming services would have or be on the verge of shutting down by now. I would also like to add this doesnt come solely from CCs, as the CCs gravitate to this so does the community and vice versa both feed each other down this path in my honest opinion. like when Legionz was dropping ZZZ and gave his valid PERSONAL reasons for doing so, it was a very opinion driven video and nothing was stated as a matter of fact TLDR he was bored and he is busy. However the community will react exccessively over this, then hop on ur twitch channel 1st time chatter spamming for the 1st time in they life for you to react to this shit and boom you react to nothing THEN original CC gets mad at reacting to a react he didnt care for cos HIS chat had same ppl spamming to react to ur react and presto..... drama straight from fucking Narnia it's tedious watching this happen in many different ways but same basic framework.

[@VxVFiction]

you got some decent points there, some are valid some i don't agree with but all in all i get your point!

[@KriskaLariska146]

The only 2 dramas I know about Wuwa are: 1. Wrong translated description of the event sword, but Devs apologized and gave everyone pull/pulls. This drama wasn't big at all 😅 2. Second is about haters on reddit, it's not about wuwa players even, it's about Hoyo players shitting on wuwa just because they want Wuwa community is more relaxed I quess. Never seen something from their side, they all are happily playing the game and that's all.

[@zekeaffy9647]

I would like to assume r/gachagaming because that subreddit is filled with Hoyo shills.

[@Meteor-ThunderBears]

At this point, no one cares anymore. Both communities have made their boudaries I guess, except for some. Wuwatards won't touch or engage in content regarding Hoyostreams and I guess Hoyotards also will do the same. Except if one is provoking each other.

[@TopTOBiiiii]

I have to say tho that some of the wuwa community got kinda toxic after zzz's release. I myself, as a wuwa player who deslikes zzz, saw others shit on the game and who plays it But that's not a wuwa community thing cause all the communities just hate this game lol

[@Yuria_en]

It's one thing to have critiques on the game, but it's another thing when the drama itself doesn't even involve the game itself and takes a back seat in the conversation and the content creator themselves becomes the topic themselves is where I think the problem occurs. The whole thing with Iyo started with him doing a Wuwa vs ZZZ (which is fine), but once he pulled the honored one moment is where any and all conversation stop regarding the game itself. Most if not all reactions that happened afterward was regarding his hot take and Wuwa was just a backdrop in the conversation at that point. I think the most "healthy" drama that came so far was the 44111 and 43311 conversation because it was a clash of what of should be considered the best, people coming from all sides giving their own insight data, charts, math in order to answer the question. I don't think you should be included or feel offended because even if you do reactions, you're not doing it out of malice, you're not bringing other people down you are giving your own insights you're not trying to take them out of context or bring them down for it. You're being neutral, while still giving them some pushback on their ideas.

[@TopTOBiiiii]

I think the drama of a topic that is outside the game shouldn't be considered that game or that game's community's fault. The Iyo drama, for example like u said, started from wuwa and zzz but it's not wuwa or zzz community drama. Everything regarding it was about Iyo's actions

[@MO-nj7tj]

this channel pretty much describes what drama does with no quality content on it. inconsistent views and prolly negative channel retention but gl.

[@ZakuZuko]

Without drama they get no views so that's why most of them go out of their way to create one.

[@Aruzien]

Oh hey thats me LMFAO

[@22peanutt]

V is preaching 👍

[@Starrky923]

9:50 tectone all the time lol

[@j4nk3n]

Next up : all the big gatcha CCs get into religion and politics 💀

[@keru4393]

Thing is it’s either this meaningless back and forth between creators or it’s pretty much nothing else, people are bored and when they’re bored they fight each other, the root cause of it is having no content in all these games when they inevitably run out of steam

[@redfoxakame]

You know what's annoying to me? Not the drama, but the people overreacting to "drama" when there's almost none, at least not a major one. You think Hoyo stans going over the fb page of WuWa to sh*t on it is drama? You think people criticizing things is drama? You think everything that isn't chill is drama?? Holy sh*t the internet is sooo sensitive! I _love_ drama and the only one I'm getting lately is MrBeast's! I haven't seen anything "drama-worthy" in the gacha community lately except for Pokke trying too hard but it's not even a big deal! 2 dudes had a disagreement so?? What's the deal?! Iyo?? That already died down and we got cool memes now so?! Like... hello?!! Where's the drama y'all have been talking about cause my tea has been lukewarm for awhile now!

[@clawsthewolf89]

To be honest I feel like a lot of these dramas have been happening in the gacha space lately have been mostly nothing to raise an eyebrow about People saying theres all this drama could just ignore it and play their game of choice

[@redfoxakame]

@@clawsthewolf89 yes! Maybe it's bc there's nothing that when there's something "ignore-able," people notice it too easily. XD

[@TopTOBiiiii]

The Iyo drama was absolute cinema tho xD We also have the genshin could never thingy that is never outdated lmao

[@clawsthewolf89]

I feel like these people don't understand is that talking about a drama or giving your opinion on something isnt really drama its just giving your opinion on the internet

[@chesterkuro15bernoulli75]

In a civil fashion, please ... please ... please get something for your boring background, hell even get a picture of tecie for the memes, do something 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤😂😂😂

[@VxVFiction]

buy it for me and i will 😂🥰

[@GESHU_L1N]

But Gramps Gacha-Drama is a niche I genuinely enjoy 🍿🍿🍿

[@VxVFiction]

exactly!

[@Celica_42]

Stop kuro from nerfing bosses, make them stop from listening to wrong people.

[@Yuukine2365]

They aren't nerfing it because it's hard, they're just nerfing it because he attacks too much and waste your time to get 3 stars because you always dodge instead of hitting, This mostly isn't a problem for pc players but it's hard for mobile players specially if they're f2p

[@Enkaneo]

Fellow diamonds

[@Giztodo]

I think recently this drama is getting too personal between people. Drama is fine when it’s just entertainment and not going around starting shit with other creators for the sake of starting drama. No one can even have a discussion that’s respectful of each other’s opinions anymore.

[@asteriskonline3494]

Tectone was right, drama kills viewership in the long run. The Gacha community has been covering drama for far too long that people become tired of them, making many of them to leave and unsub, even if drama was not the primary focus of that channel.

[@kascimo]

Most "good" content creators from my country left KZbin and only the ones who make drama content are left now they represent the majority of CCs, but there is still some CCs who are pretty large and take months to make "quality content" and once they upload they take all the views and one more thing "whoever says that they don't like drama is lying" ~THE HOMIE TAO

[@MO-nj7tj]

this is complicated. na-west culture pretty much capitalizes on this coz they lazy on producing their own content and just want to react* and rage bait. they say genshin is dead and i see a spanish youtuber pulls 30k viewers on genshin tcg. the thing is if you cultivated your viewers to just wholesome content they will still watch you but if you hate the game and community along with it.. you become tectone. hated by every community he is in.

[@latitude990]

The past few weeks of gacha content on yt has been mostly trash. The new games came out, all the interesting content was made and now there's nothing left until a new character/region/content comes out. The drama circle jerk is so boring ffs

[@bserver2424]

Drama content just fell off in general. No one cared about it as much because it's mostly just nothing burger. There's a lot leak content and fan animations in recommendation as of right now.

[@k-BlazeWW30]

Lmao typical Hoyoshills ..

[@ZakuZuko]

Trying to grow with negativity...it's not sustainable. Better to stay away from drama or you become synonymous with nothing but drama farmer CC.

[@bigfootisreal_]

Isn't majority of the "drama" videos basically making fun of dumb takes made by clowns on twitter or CCs? I think its just funny. Stop being a clown online and peoole will stop laughing at you. 😂 Also "drama" is what's keeping the space alive. Like..how much entertaining content are y'all supposed to make from games with 3-4hr content every 1.5 months?

[@kostum3585]

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[@RomenVoid]

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