LET'S TALK NM HISTORY - EP 10 - History and Heritage!

Join State Historian of New Mexico Rob Martinez for LET'S TALK NM HISTORY! State Historian Rob Martinez talks about history and heritage, and the difference between the two!

[@josephschaumberg4136]

Thanks

[@ochervelvet9687]

Thank you for bringing this up. It can be emotionally confusing to feel defensive when the Conquistador monuments are removed, and at the same time feel shame knowing what those Conquistadors, our ancestors, did to the Native Americans already living here. How do you balance pride in our heritage against generational guilt? I guess we have to hold those contradictions and learn to live with them. They just are. We Americans are not very good at ambiguity!

[@robmartinez7517]

Thank you for watching. I distinguish between being proud of our heritage, which we get from our parents and grandparents, and learning about our history, which is something we should neither feel pride or shame for, rather we should learn about it and from it, and be open to all the possibilities, such as descending from both the conqueror and the conquered, which is very complicated.

[@newsandviews4595]

Thanks to you Rob we learned our ancestors were among the first families to settle NM. We know we had gone back to the 1800s but just wow. THank you!

[@damianperea702]

Hey me too! I was like Are you kidding me!! Amazing how far back we can research

[@alro11]

these videos are awesome! I am learning so much! thank you Rob Martinez. AND when you do a q&a that is going to be so great. will you do it on Zoom?

[@MacKenziePoet]

This is utterly superb! I love how Professor Martinez personalizes our history.

[@robmartinez7517]

Gracias!

[@Beatriz-Q]

I look forward to your videos , thank you! I got into research when I completed the AncestryDNA and found most of my family in the Santa Cruz NM and northern NM but had family in Chihuahua. Now realize New Mexico was still Mexico at the time

[@user-tm5em4vu7u]

Nuevo Mexicanos and northern Mexicans are very similar genetically. Both are predominantly Spanish, 65% and 35% Native American, on average. Really interesting history and genetics.

[@sierravista9013]

Great talk 😊 thank you

[@newsandviews4595]

So glad you did this. I suggested this to you before the pandemic.. Sharing!

[@platinumoregon1148]

Being the Eighth Generation of a family who's first recorded ancestor was born in Old Albuquerque in the early 1700s, I have always had a feeling of closeness to New Mexico, Santa Fe, Mora and the Taos communities !! Although things are much different, now, than when I was young, I still enjoy visiting the North Central area of New Mexico !! I regret that much of my family is gone and the children will never have the same reverence !!

[@TheUnholyPosole]

Can you do an episode on art?

[@christinamorales6887]

I love enchiladas ❤

[@vigillionaire]

Love your content. Do you have any material on New Mexico land grants?

[@christinamorales6887]

Can you talk more about Mexican indigenous people in NM

[@robmartinez7517]

Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWW9g6asett1n7M

[@grimmcheersii8601]

hi there, my name is Cory Montes, so i mine turquoise here in southern new mexico and my grandfather mined silver out here and so on hahaha it would be awesome if you could talk about the history of turquoise here in new mexico, ive researched into it but can ony find stuff from 1900 and onward but i know the spanish were mining the stuff because ive found old hatchitas y torneos while mining.

[@2knivesguzman400]

Im a Descendant of the Dominguez who came south after the revolt from Tome.

[@Nuevomexicano]

Where can I find in details and first hand accounts of the reconquista under Diego de Vargas?

[@robmartinez7517]

The six volume Vargas Journals series published by UNM Press is the best source. Ed by John Kessell, Rick Hendricks and Meredith Dodge.

[@Nuevomexicano]

@@robmartinez7517 thanks, please consider doing a video on Cristoval Maria Larrañaga and the many disease that plagued colonial NM

[@bearpawz_]

Rob~~ Maybe (just saying maybe) some day you could do a chat where we can send in our questions and you can answer what you're able to? Don't say no.... say MAYBE 😆 .. I don't mean like right now.. I mean, just one of these days? Pretty please with chili's on top? 🥰

[@robmartinez7517]

Honestly, that is an idea I have been planning on for 2023! Yes!

[@bearpawz_]

@@robmartinez7517 Yay!!!! 🤗

[@ErnieLA-]

I Agree 👍

[@user-tm5em4vu7u]

He should do a live and answer questions. That would be so cool. Professor Martinez is a very intelligent and good speaker!

[@sierravista9013]

They did it to Sicily too

[@NORTHERNKINGDOMPROPHETS]

Hi, do you do any thing with New Mexican family names as in Geneology?

[@robmartinez7517]

Yes.

[@NORTHERNKINGDOMPROPHETS]

@@robmartinez7517 I am looking for help and am willing to pay your fee please

[@robmartinez7517]

@@NORTHERNKINGDOMPROPHETS I am way too busy as state historian. Contact the New Mexico Genealogical Society, they can help. Also on FB go ti the Genealogy of New Mexico page.

[@NORTHERNKINGDOMPROPHETS]

@@robmartinez7517 thanks

[@SergioRPerez]

Just one thing to mention. You are right, there is a dark part of the Spanish entrepreneurs in the World but if we compare them with the logic of that time with other colonial powers. There wasn't a policy from the Spanish to eliminates natives. I can tell you that Brits, Belgiums and other had in place policies for example to don't mix with natives and in the case of the future US even eliminate the natives. "Good indian is a dead indian". That is not coming from the Spaniards. For example I invite you to learn about the marriage of Beatriz Clara Coya, an Inca's princes in the 1500's.

[@angelavelasquez78]

What's the best source for info on the missions Indians? My family moved to abiquiu in the late 1750s and the father of that ancestor came from San Felipe mission before thet period . How do I find my mission indian ancestors ???

[@robmartinez7517]

Check out Mission of New Mexico by Adams and Chavez, a 1776 report on the missions by fray Atanasio Dominguez. John Kessell's Kiva Cross and Crown about Pecos is very good, as is his Missions of New Mexico Since 1776. As far as ancestors, that can be challenging, though not impossible if you can find them in church or civil documents.

[@angelavelasquez78]

@@robmartinez7517 awesome thanks so much for the valuable info , new mexico has such a beautiful history glad to have people like you to help people like me know about our roots

[@angelavelasquez78]

I have several gggggreat grandmother's who were married and lived in Abiquiu during the 1750s listed as poor orphans or parents unknown, is this an indication they could have been Genizaro ? My family has obviously high amount of indian blood and have always known we have idian but not from which tribe , they lived in abiquiu for at least 4 generations about 10 direct lines descendants also in San miguel del bado , am I safe to assume we could possibly have Genizaro heritage and that's why they trib is not known ?