LET'S TALK ROUGH RYDER KNIVES Vol.25 : Rough Ryder Reserve RRR021 and RRR022

[@bigfrankfraser1391]

ive been whittling for little over 60 years, although i never go anywhere without my knife roll full of my whittling knives, (so much so that the young folks in my little town know me as "mr. whittler"), i use a few of these rough riders when im out with the grandkids, the quill one looks like a folding version of some of my regular knives, aint a day goes by that im not fiddling with a bit of wood on a bench around town, one time i was sitting on a bench next to a kindergarten playground, and the little kids kept gathering at the fence near me watching me carve away, so i made them all little toys, im always happiest when i see someone smile from my craft, teachers dont mind because most teachers there remember watching me whittle when they were kids

[@BigRedEDC]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing your story!

[@bigfrankfraser1391]

@@BigRedEDC as my daughter likes to tell me "i could talk a graveyard to death" once i get started on my stories i dont seem to stop

[@BigRedEDC]

@@bigfrankfraser1391 lol! It's awesome to hear

[@bigfrankfraser1391]

@@BigRedEDC actually gave my grandson one of the quill ones for his 14th birthday last month along with a nice chunk of silver birch from my backyard to whittle away at, got ot say, if rough ryder stopped making cheap stuff and switched to only doing reserves they could actually make a name for themselves, only thing in my town rough ryder are called is "classier mtechs"

[@jerseyknifeguy6382]

Hey JB I couldn’t figure out why quillcliff the blade was so short and the handle was so long and people were telling me that’s a whittling knife it’s supposed to be a wood carving knife!!!!! The other one I didn’t pick up thanks buddy

[@edcjourneys]

Didn’t i already school you on this Pete?! They’re reusing the frame with multi blade models! ❤

[@BigRedEDC]

makes sense Pete! Thanks for watching!

[@jerseyknifeguy6382]

@@BigRedEDC lol when I got it I looked at it and said this looks weird lol 😂

[@jerseyknifeguy6382]

A lot of people are comparing the reserve line with the rose raft blades knife!!!!! Thanks

[@alpine1600s]

The Rosecraft Traditionals may use the same factory as RRR, but the modern folders use Artisan Cutlery factories. Until Rosecraft opens their Tennessee factory. 👍

[@BigRedEDC]

Yes they are for sure!

[@BigRedEDC]

@@alpine1600s Not all the modern folders are made by Artisan! 5 factories in all were used for this first line of knives!

[@tomweingart2337]

I'm liking the 3 bladed one!

[@BigRedEDC]

RIght on Tom!

[@kjgas6945]

Love them! Thank you for the video JB!

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks kj!

[@kjgas6945]

@@BigRedEDC 👍👍🎯🎯

[@timb4425]

Thanks for the review JB. I will say, the one blade models always appeal to me more. Have a great day!

[@BigRedEDC]

Agreed Tim! Thank you and have a great week my friend!

[@mikecurtis2585]

Great looking knives! The first one looks like a Seahorse Whittler with one blade! Both are great looking knives!!

[@BigRedEDC]

There you go! That's the pattern I was looking for! Thanks Mike!

[@sobxscooter8157]

Some of the traditional knives leave me wondering why 🤔 Thanks for another great review JB 🤗☕

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks for watching brother

[@MichaelR58]

Good looking knives JB , have a great day , thanks for sharing , God bless brother !

[@BigRedEDC]

Thank you Michael! Have a wonderful day my friend!

[@TheStreamingEnderman]

I love the Quillcliffe. I spoke very highly of it on my other channel. (possibly too much!) I noticed someone say it reminded him of an Ettrick. I collect those and love them. Fun fact: most Wharncliffes are based on old Sheffield designs! So you'll see many similarities.

[@BigRedEDC]

Right on! Thanks for taking a look!

[@slicknick332]

That 022 looks wicked; love the slender coffin handle!

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks for checking them out

[@rustyknifelover4463]

Great looking pair of knives

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks so much Rusty!

[@grimreaper6042]

I am not a slip joint fan but I like the look of these knives thanks for sharing JB

[@BigRedEDC]

Thank you very much Grim

[@grimreaper6042]

@@BigRedEDC You’re very welcome my friend

[@JoeSteel1]

learned alot on this...the single blade version, looks a little odd with that swell

[@BigRedEDC]

It does but its growing on me!

[@kevink.2719]

Man loving the rough Ryder knives

[@BigRedEDC]

Me too Kevin! Thanks so much!

[@christophwilhelm6431]

The secondaries on the 022 are light cuz if they were stiffer, the way the springs are set up the main blade would be a super hard pull 🤷‍♂

[@BigRedEDC]

It's possible I guess. Pretty light though!

[@mikereese15]

Love your RR volumes

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks Mike!

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

So this is really Volume 25 and 26! I'd like the whittler if the small blades were a pen and coping instead of Wharncliffes. I'd like to see that first knife with a spear or drop point. I love the shape of both handles - especially the coffin handle

[@BigRedEDC]

LOL...could be but thought I would do them together! Thanks Tobias!

[@rockets4kids]

As to your comment on the handle shape on the wharncliffe, it is a pattern designed to work in both the hammer grip as well as the edge-in paring grip. It's never going to be ideal in the hammer grip -- that's the compromise you'll need to accept -- but it still should be pretty good in both.

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks for watching

[@rockd8946]

I like the Dude. Gotta get one! Great vid I just subscribed!

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks so much!

[@bubba92473]

I first learned about this company from your videos 📹 BigRed and they just keep putting out great offerings 👍 Thanks so much for sharing.

[@BigRedEDC]

Awesome Marcos! Thank you very much

[@ColdHarborOP]

I really appreciate you making this video. There's next to nothing for this RRR pattern here on KZbin, and, until I saw this, I didnt realize how sizeable the Dude Whittler really is. It took the knie from a hard pass for me to an immediate buy, so I snagged two. Thanks for the video!

[@BigRedEDC]

Awesome...glad it helped

[@gregvanderlip7726]

It like a reverse swayback shape a swayfront lol little bit small for me most of em are great vid

[@BigRedEDC]

Thank you Greg!!

[@charlier8233]

Always cool to see new RRRs, these two look like a couple of keepers for sure. The Swish 0019 looks like the Sous Chef with a clip point and swing guard instead of the chef blade, both BIG! Love my Sous Chef. Thanks for the look.

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks for checking them out Charlie!!

[@WilliamsKnifeLife]

Try whittling with them & see which one feels better whittling.

[@BigRedEDC]

Might have to do that William! Thanks!!

[@FrugalShave]

I have the Dude Whittler and I love it. On mine the scales are just a bit proud over the bolsters on all 4 transitions. I bought mine to use for carving so it has never bothered me past the initial thought that it could be better.

[@BigRedEDC]

Right on! Thanks for watching!

[@sharpguyatx]

Picked up the 017 Barlow best RR to date! Ancient Spring slip joint I picked up recently has best walk and talk. Have you heard of them?

[@BigRedEDC]

Have not heard of Ancient Spring

[@whammofammo7346]

Great looking designs. When you laid the 0022 on the table its looks like Sam Eagle from the Muppet Show. :) in porfile.

[@BigRedEDC]

LOL....you're right...it does!!!

[@paul_schuette]

I like the look of both of these quite a bit. I wonder if the small blades on the second knife are light on spring pressure out of necessity to keep the main blade from being a nail ripper since it has twice the amount of backsping acting on it. I’m guessing that’s why knives of that three blade configuration traditionally use a split spring design (like a Split Back Whittler pattern) to keep only one spring on each blade tang. This is just a guess.

[@BigRedEDC]

That is a very good possibility Paul! Appreciate you sharing your thoughts!

[@skatepuunksurvivalist8536]

Cinnamon Bone Stag Whittler is the same action with the spring tension

[@BigRedEDC]

Right on! Just seems really light

[@davew5583]

I like them both, but isn’t the pen blade called that as it was designed to work on quill/pens.

[@BigRedEDC]

yes....that's correct

[@TopDog8762]

Dang that is a nice looking knife. So they uped the price and the materials, fair enough. I am not crazy that the blade steel is still mystery steel at this price.

[@annmarie9196]

Blade steel is D2

[@TopDog8762]

@@annmarie9196 Thank you, when I looked it up the listing said stainless steel I went no further. Knowing its D2 Changes things. A much better value.

[@alpine1600s]

@@TopDog8762 on SMKW the overview says D2 Tool Steel.

[@BigRedEDC]

Yep, all RRR have been D2! Thanks TD

[@TopDog8762]

@@alpine1600s Thank You for the information

[@jamesomalley4556]

That first one ! not a fan # 2 looks better to me.

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks James!

[@jeremyspaulding7735]

Good looking knives! The quill cliff is an interesting pattern. Definitely a great office knife. Great video brother 👍

[@BigRedEDC]

Thank you Jeremy

[@davidkurle5418]

I think that smaller knife would make a wonderful fifth pocket carry, or maybe a desk knife for opening mail. Pretty cool! And I like the coffin bolsters on that whittler too. Cheers, buddy!

[@BigRedEDC]

It would be good for both of those applications!!

[@lewisgreenway5065]

I have the Queen QN010 and it is exactly the same pattern as the RRR021 a nice little knife to carry, I think it feels great in hand as for the Coffin style no thanks and why three Wharncliffe blades? Like the black Micarta though.

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks for watching Lewis

[@andrewnawarycz3026]

Ordered a 022 to end 2022 with 👍🏻, hope it's as good a whittler as the 003.

[@BigRedEDC]

Awesome Andrew!

[@bamaninja929]

I prefer a single blade knife even on traditional knives but I h

[@BigRedEDC]

Right on Bama!

[@rocksandrocks]

My dude whittler has the same situation with the pull strengths, the secondaries are definitely weaker than i would prefer, and one even has a bit of a wiggle. My example also has slightly proud scales. Not the best quality for sure with this one, but the pattern utility makes it up for me!

[@BigRedEDC]

Right on! Thanks for sharing your experience

[@kenwilliams2219]

Not my favorite blade style but the black and silver is very attractive.

[@BigRedEDC]

Yes it is Ken! Thanks for watching!

[@David_Grun]

Those are peffect for whittling.

[@BigRedEDC]

I bet they would be!

[@jeroenvoss6231]

The Quil Cliff is a nice one, the handle shape reminds me of the spanish navaja knives, which also taper to the end. It's a matter of getting used to i guess. The whittler surprised me of having weak springs on the small blades, ofcourse the main blade runs on two springs, so that will be a solid one, but they could have been a bit stronger on the smaller ones. Shape wise i like both. Thank you JB.

[@BigRedEDC]

Both are interesting designs for sure! Kinda wish they weren't all 3 Wharncliffe blades on the Whittler! Thanks so much Jeroen!!

[@kevinmorrice]

@@BigRedEDC big one for trimming wood, small but wide one for rough detail, small thinner blade for fine detail, its a great "all you need" knife for basic whittling, so it makes sense

[@bamaninja929]

*but I have a RR Dr's knife that has a tongue depression blade and a sheepsfoot blade. That I luv.

[@BigRedEDC]

LOL...very nice!!

[@scottnorvell2955]

I love it!

[@BigRedEDC]

👍👍👍👍

[@KnivesFAST]

Excellent video my friend. Two good offerings from Rough Ryder. I actually think I'd like the quill cliff better because it's one blade and I enjoyed the English whittler that I had in a while back from Ben which is that same shape. Not a big fan of the other one because of the multiple blades and the light springs and having three of the same blade shape. But that's just me. Thanks

[@BigRedEDC]

Yeah...3 of the same blade is a little odd! Thanks as always KC

[@danbolton3180]

I bought an LTWRIGHT Bandit from SMKW and they threw in a pretty big Rough Ryder for free. The knife opened nice, but the blade lock release to close the knife is too stiff for arthritic hands. Opening folders can be difficult and is part of the reason I'm carrying a small fixed blade now.

[@BigRedEDC]

Nice of them to throw in the extra but understand your reasoning for carrying a fixed blade.

[@groundfog]

Cool stuff!

[@BigRedEDC]

Thank you very much!👊👊

[@forrestslrHankd]

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks brother!

[@bruceswearingen7718]

Those are Nice slip joints 🗡

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks for checking them out Bruce!

[@richardcasner7665]

I think I like the whittler the best. Still think I may start with something from the Appta series for my first traditional though.

[@BigRedEDC]

For sure Richard! That's a great series!!

[@timrodriguez1]

I really like that Dude Whittler, but wish the handle was a little shorter along with the main blade.

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks for taking a look Tim!

[@propblast82nd]

I wish they would use VG10 steel instead of D2 .

[@BigRedEDC]

I would love that!

[@shanecoursen]

No history on the quill pattern but am going to guess the handle shape feels weird because of where the front swell ends. You are stable at the fore of the handle but have very little to grab onto in the middle. A small bit of stabilization arrives again at the pinky, but not really enough to grab onto; it's mostly there just to 'steer' the tip of the blade. The pattern seems to aid in fine control. Just guessing. 😜 I like both of these knives.

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks so much for checking them out Shane!

[@stuartgross5728]

I love Rough Riders and have a ton of them. You said the quillcliff is odd. I find most of the RRR knives odd. The quality for the price is there but I guess I prefer the more traditional knives.

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks for watching Stuart!!!

[@Volkmannx]

Usually I like RRR, but these two? I don't know ... 🤔

[@BigRedEDC]

The patterns are different for sure!

[@ColdHarborOP]

I really like the Quilcliffe and took it up on myself to grab two recently when SMKW had them on sale for well under forty bucks each. Very sharp, exceptionally fine point, elegant looking, and very well finished; what's not to like? I do wish the blade were slightly longer to sort of fill out the length of the handle but I do appreciate the grip and control the knife gives as is.

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks so much for watching!!

[@_MiMo_]

The 021 reminds me of a Queen Wharncliffe but with an odd blade to handle ratio. If you like the Reserve series, you'd probably like the Brother Knives in VG-10, bone, cf or micarta!

[@BigRedEDC]

I really do need to check out some Brother knives MiMo

[@beeferbaron]

Both look nice to me lol

[@BigRedEDC]

Right on Cliff! Thanks brother!

[@darnellb85]

Looks good 2 me don't have a slip joint yet but bigger is better 😉👌

[@BigRedEDC]

Thank darnell

[@diverdave2179]

That Dude Whittler is fine, but coffin shapes are a no-no for me (cultural superstition). Looked up the Swish , and it's well into Case country as far as the price goes. At least they don't have gapping, not like the two Case knives I just acquired (I know we're beating a dead horse here :) ). Thanks JB!

[@BigRedEDC]

I really want to check out the Swish due to size alone...lol! Thanks Dave

[@BarlowPalminteri]

The taper on the 022 down to the smaller bolster framing the secondary blades may have something to do with their light pulls and probable wobbles (though you didn’t mention wobbles). Those blades are denser on other RR whittlers.

[@BigRedEDC]

Right on!

[@Pocket_EDC]

Thanks for the insights.

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks for checking them out

[@chanabhaji2726]

Personally would prefer Vg10, sometimes as is often is the case the ones coming over to us in the uk can be made with different steels. For the money they look okay to me.

[@BigRedEDC]

VG10 Would be awesome!

[@Jr-Mz]

I prefer a single bladed slip joint. Thanks for the look JB. I do like the the wharny blades👍

[@BigRedEDC]

I do as well Jr! Thanks brother!

[@billythomas8749]

What does a 5 pull mean?

[@BigRedEDC]

Describes how strong the back springs are and hoe much force it takes to open a slipjoint

[@happykt]

The shield looks like a fish, not a bomb to me.

[@BigRedEDC]

Right on

[@ck158]

The DUDE !!

[@BigRedEDC]

LOL...yes it is!!!

[@jerseyknifeguy6382]

Why in the world why you put all them washers in a knife that looks silly in my opinion that’s why I will don’t buy any reserve knives with more than one blade can’t do it 😊

[@edcjourneys]

I agree. Still stuck with the Barlow as my favorite RRR

[@BigRedEDC]

Right on Pete!

[@RubleInnawoods]

I’m definitely a bit more disappointed in these RRRs. Swish is really outlandish, the whittler just looks like a lot of unrefined choices. The Quillcliff is great tho, a lot like one of the Queen knives and I love it’s aesthetics. Besides that tho, underwhelming. I’m glad they released the 009BM tho, I got that immediately

[@BigRedEDC]

Thanks so much for checking them out!!!