Let's Talk...The Raw Data ILS

[@dayanand1190]

These are the real videos of KZbin. I was enthralled with the style of explanation, displaying wisdom and experience. I am not a pilot, but generally interested in avlation.

[@Highspade]

Thanks so much for the ILS presentation! Your clear and engaging style made complex concepts easy to understand. Really appreciate the effort you put into making the material accessible. Now, just hoping we don't have to wait another 7 years for the next video! 😄

[@mikedegroot99]

Love this video. You have got a great ‘old fashioned’ way of explaining which showed an abundance of experience, very engaging. It just might be helpful to introduce some pictures or even better videos when you describe how to fly ‘the bird’ when intercepting the localizer (and more importantly..keeping it where you want to keep it.) other than that: more like this please!

[@troyfly71]

Its challenging for some because they rely of automation 99.5% of the time. Learning approximate pitch and thrust settings makes it much easier. Good video

[@joaomelo1203]

Amazing detailed explanation. Thank you Captain.

[@paolonespilotslounge]

Thank you for the detailed briefing! I am sharing this video to my students...

[@richardjacobsen2026]

Cavemaning an Airbus -classic phrase!

[@edwardcheung1626]

What if there's an IRS failure? Even we put it back to ATT mode, the plane no longer knows where it is. Do we still get the track heading i.e. the green diamond?

[@abdullahfahad8145]

Man thanks a lot, I just wished if you could explain this on a home sim at least.

[@kiss4luna]

Chuck Yeager is basically the Chuck Norris in aviation.

[@randofax92]

Do you recommend RAW data ILS to be flown early stablized or still decelerated?

[@ChrisM541]

09:56 Why isn't this an automated function? The FMS after all knows where you should be here, for this specific scenario, thus should know how to correct when the aircraft is out of alignment.

[@Boeing-xj5hh]

Great content as always! I also wondered which airplane types you have experience on?

[@gregschuster13]

I've flown both Boeing and Airbus...but, mostly (and currently) Airbus!

[@Boeing-xj5hh]

@@gregschuster13 Nice😁! Which Boeing's if I may ask?

[@robertscheu9746]

This guy is a real pro. Great vid!

[@jesperschmidt4948]

🇩🇰 Top nutch 👍

[@evanm6739]

Wish Boeing had the Olive on the Martini Stick feature

[@LocalConArtist]

Very cool video. I am shocked that an ATP would struggle on this. 1000s of instrument students have learned instrument approaches with all of them being raw data.

[@xyzaero]

@@LocalConArtist because in the airlines these lazy suckers stop flying and just play tue video game. In some airlines this is unfortunately mandatory, but all other pilots have no excuse to fly raw data on a regular basis in fair weather and low traffic conditions, especially for currently purposes. He even opened the video by saying that most will just need raw data if systems have failed. That’s unfortunately the state of airline flying, but the presenter if the video at least knows very well what he is talking about 👍🏻

[@TomSherwood-z5l]

@@xyzaero How about, ATP approaches are alot faster than in a bug smasher?

[@jamesbooth3360]

"Because you are so degraded ..."😂 Because you have to hand fly the airplane, you have to "Fly The Damn Airplane!" Typical for any private pilot. This video leaves me with zero respect for ATP rated pilots. It seems that hours logged have become hours since they had to fly the airplane.

[@xyzaero]

@@TomSherwood-z5l Flying an approach in a civilian jet is much easier than in a single engine piston. Just because you are much faster does not make it any more difficult. Your mind has to be way ahead of the game and the adding 20 to 100% of speed dies not make it more difficult, because a lit of other advantages reduce your workload a lot. MULTICREW is the most important factor.

[@JustMe00257]

I frequently fly raw data with a wide body aircraft. It's not the same as with a slow aircraft - it's typically twice the speed. The main issue is that your scan must be faster than with a slow aircraft because any deviation evolves at twice the speed. If you're extending the flaps, the transient aerodynamic effects must be anticipated and compensated for quite quickly and appropriately to avoid significant deviations to develop. Other than that, in still air, the aircraft is very stable. Many pilots fly raw data departured/arrivals, it depends on company policy, culture and operational environment, among other things. There's no such thing as "ATP's" as a whole - it's like saying that every people are the same without any nuance; it simply shows ignorance.

[@shrey761]

Do they not fly RAW data ILS in the US with bird on?

[@gregoryschuster5611]

While it is optional (except for the Dual FCU failure, where you always get the bird) - it is HIGHLY recommended!

[@xyzaero]

Thanks for the very well explained video, I just really don't like the "opener" of the video wich suggests that a raw data ILS is only flown because of a system malfunction, wich forces you to do so. A pilot should fly raw data approaches and without auto thrust on a regular basis, preferably in low intensity airspace, during daylight and "good" weather, just to stay current, as long as your SOPs permit it. Raw data is not a punishment, raw data is the basis on wich our entire daily flying is build upon. Maybe a misunderstanding on my side, but even if that is the case, it is important to understand that every pilot should periodically fly with minimal automation for safety/currency reasons. If you don't use it you lose it !!

[@12345fowler]

You are nit picking

[@xyzaero]

@ No not at all, that is ESSENTIAL! To open the video like that was for sure not meant like that, but what I said is absolutely essential and not nit picking!

[@andrewferguson3535]

Absolutely should never fly regular raw data approaches with auto thrust off! That is not what the jet is designed for and not to be encouraged. There’s very good reason it is not mentioned anywhere in any Airbus manuals. Use maximum automation at all times to maximise SA, reduce workload, assist decision making and crew coordination.

[@xyzaero]

@ and end up like the AF guys who didn’t know to reduce AOA to get out of a stall 🤣 Manual and raw data flying in good weather and non busy airspace is crucial to stay current, no matter what jet you are flying. Most guys in our industry are dead once the boxes go dark … NOTHING TO ENCOURAGE !!!