LETS CHAT: Max & Justin Wong on Marvel Vs. Capcom 2

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[@C.Dat.guyoverthere]

28:17 "How incredible would it be if this game was on Switch?" 6/18/24 Nintendo: "Say no more."

[@allainangcao28]

Two dads talking about MvC, man I'm getting old...

[@lautarol1803]

And then, nintendo said.... "i wanna take you for a ride"

[@triples561]

Who's here after the announcement?!?!

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Me!

[@monogamousmatt546]

WE'RE SO BACK! MAHVEL BABY

[@ZarelidT]

Pretty sure if evo2020 went through with the MVC2 invite it would have caused a wave of something like this to already happen. It’s unfortunate how forgotten that epic event was going to be 😢

[@Jose-se9pu]

I think there was going to be some kind of announcement regarding a re-release, but...we'll never know.

[@ZarelidT]

@@Jose-se9pu I think so too. UMVC3 was making a comeback on parsec as well. Just seemed like a good year for something to happen with mvc. But now we will never know 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ZarelidT]

@@Jose-se9pu AND nothing mvc2 wasn’t even talked about til max said this recently 🤦🏽. So unfortunately forgotten.

[@Choom89]

I was really looking forward to it too

[@wanderovrponder]

This shows how 2020 was a terrible year for a lot of things, and It was a year of wasted potential.

[@heefmvc]

Really happy you’ve been trying to bring back Marvel 2. Hoping you succeed!

[@arturozenteno7524]

Played it at a barcade last night and enjoyed it lots. I wish I could buy it online for my 360.

[@nore5888]

@@arturozenteno7524 I have the demo on my 360 but i can't buy the full game

[@herosshade2247]

This dude willed Dan into SF5, I believe he can make it happen.

[@TlelocGaming]

I hope he does!!!!!!!!!!!

[@CC42_]

@@nore5888 is there anyway to buy it on 360? Digital or physical?

[@luis_6507]

2 legends, talking about a legendary game. Calm down guys 😭

[@strawberry-kk3dp]

These legends never disappoints us 🙌😄

[@KingOfAnime247]

Legend 3 Squared found.

[@georgehernandez2156]

Only justin is the legend. Max doesnt compete or do anything substantially besides upload KZbin videos.

[@thebloodedge284]

That made my day

[@SolBuster]

@@georgehernandez2156 So we're going to just ignore EVERYTHING he's ever done for the FGC community? Fucking yikes. Like what was the point of downplaying Max? You have any idea who he is?

[@MoTheFreakiiNinja]

Full fuckin circle boys! It's beautiful. 😭

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Hell yeah bro

[@gogreengameon2146]

Omg... I'm nearly at the end and just realised this is 2 years old!

[@jusan1617]

This is the first time I've heard of the Philippines' way of playing MvC2. It's interesting how a meta changes just from lowering the damage to the lowest setting.

[@user-lm9gz2kv2j]

as a Filipino and a player of this game, I confirm that what Justin said was true.

[@Kara-de5cz]

@@user-lm9gz2kv2j that's so fun

[@Arz2003]

Philippines setting MvC2 suck. I hate it with a passion. Wish they would play it normal

[@aminoacid6633]

@@Arz2003 gitgud.

[@fountgarde]

Kinda interesting, I used to live in the Philippines and when I play at home casually, (now in the US) I always set the damage to the lowest setting if they give me the option. Never knew it was an actual thing until now.

[@tomasparant8901]

I've said this 1000 times and I'll say it again: Jin Saotome is a sick-ass character that deserves a spot on _any and all_ Capcom crossover games... Also it's a _SHAME_ that Asura hasn't appeared in a fighting game despite duking it out with Ryu and Akuma in his own game.

[@TheShoe1990]

Yes and yes.

[@dukemagus]

Jin Saotome, Asura and Gene from God hand would make the perfect Capcom underdog team

[@aaronsilverman837]

JIN IS MY BOY!!!! LET'S GO!!!!!!!! BLODIIIAAAAAAA

[@magnificent10304]

The most violent Jin playa on 360 an ps3 right here! BLODIAAAAAA!!!!

[@tomasparant8901]

@@dukemagus Truly a man of culture, I see.

[@SuikodenGR]

Ohh the way things will play out 2 years later 😊😊😊😊😊

[@thesameHINOKAMI]

Who's here AFTER the ANNOUNCEMENT? 🎉🎉🎉

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Me!

[@twill5626]

Fortunately, now in June 2024, this video is now considered “foreshadowing”. Turns out we ARE living in the best timeline.

[@Jose-se9pu]

Marvel: "Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover ever" Max: "hold my Benny"

[@billiswillis4087]

😂

[@TheDario64]

28:16 if only he knew

[@icedcapplord710]

MvC2 is no joke, one of my favorite games of all time and I'd kill for a proper remaster on current platforms. It's nice to see more community awareness surrounding probably my favorite Capcom fighting game and Capcom fighting game series

[@TwistedSoul2002]

Unfortunately Disney won’t allow the characters to be licensed despite Capcom’s requests.

[@20skr20]

We all would . You know we could all just shit on Disney …… that’s what ppl used to do in the past

[@bryang5638]

Yo

[@Lakeshow_boss]

I hope you’re alive for this

[@BlueChickN]

Did you kill somebody?

[@multidinero]

I play Guile, Charlie, and Captain America and I ran my neighborhood arcades like a boss! I always knew I was playing what people considered low tier/ mid tier characters, but I just lived on the machine and played EVERYBODY! Getting around heavy range styles would always make me have to rethink my play. I still love it!

[@bernardocatrilef2846]

Same team here haha

[@valkrieknights]

I played Guile, Charlie, and Captain Commando!! Literally the only team I could win with.

[@pomps8085]

Team America!

[@saadhasan2518]

I played Juggernaut,Charlie and Cyclops

[@sambo416]

@@pomps8085 world police

[@alesbrewery]

Clicked on this faster than Capcom gave up on MvC:I

[@chidorisnake22]

As much as I loved MvCI gameplay wise, this made me spit out my drink. Lmao

[@Spicypuff]

I swear that game came out at the worst possible time. Had they waited they wouldn't have had to worry about many of the issues regarding the roster and the rights to certain characters like the X men. Also it would've benefitted from a delay to overhaul look and presentation. It really didn't help that DBFZ came along and blew that game out of the water.

[@TlelocGaming]

OMG LOL!!!

[@driftingswordsmanzer]

I remember as a kid I figured out hayato had a secret special where he turned into B. Hayato like a raging demon type of move; I practiced for weeks to do it, then landing it in a match against my cousin. It was so satisfying.

[@saadhasan2518]

Hayato was really fun

[@dragons_hook]

@@saadhasan2518 indeed! I really wish I coulda seen him throw down with Sol.

[@Enzo575]

I wish Capcom released this for modern consoles. Or make an anniversary collection of Vs games.

[@georgehernandez2156]

I'll pay $60 for the entire marvel fighting game set. X MEN COTA, Xmen vs Street fighter, Marvel Super heroes, marvel vs street fighter, marvel vs capcom 1 and 2

[@Enzo575]

@@georgehernandez2156 that's exactly what I meant. I' feel the same way!! Lol

[@volcanickjoe08]

Or at least, available on Steam, dammit.

[@SlickRick4EVER]

@@georgehernandez2156 - $60? Nah man... I would triple that. Don't be that cheap...

[@spreadthevegemite8064]

That would be so dope

[@makik5340]

Makes me wish Max had a podcast.

[@chidorisnake22]

I would love a podcast where Max talks nothing but retro and modern fighting games, and maybe some RPGs as well. If I can't have Fighting History back, I want to at least see that happen.

[@itzcornbread2.060]

The doodcast?

[@rafacastillo9611]

I love it but i don't keep my hopes up for that, you can tell how much his content time has been cut since he got his newborn, and that's for the better for him, he's gotta balance that shit

[@jpcoqueran]

No frillz podcast is what you're looking for friendo

[@oliverjones1845]

I second no frillz if you looking for a Fgc podcast. Some eps they go from fgc to just “ barbershop talk” which is fun

[@yami-kay9099]

Love that this came up now that mvc fighting collecting has been announced. Seeing them have this conversation gets me ready for their triple KO episode that follws up on this, now years later

[@duffman1876]

That algorithm ah muhfukka lol now we got the New Series coming out😎🍻🍺

[@slobdaddy]

Hell even the jazzy music while fighting makes it great

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

It would be really dope if someone modded this game and made the top tier (Gods) average. Then you would see ALL the potential of the other characters!

[@ScootaGray]

Is this hard to do? Seems like someone would have done it already.

[@izaianicon]

Just change the damage level into 1 star damage. Things change

[@BlackOpsDan]

Who else is watching this after the June Nintendo direct 2024 after they announced marvel vs capcom fighting collection 🤣🔥

[@xxnike0629xx]

The day that they finally announce a Marvel vs. Capcom collection, Capcom vs. SNK & SNK vs. Capcom collection, and maybe even a Tatsunoko vs. Capcom remaster on modern consoles (PS5, XSX, Steam).... That will be a day to remember.

[@bit427]

I need tatsunoko vs Capcom.Such an underrated game

[@dragons_hook]

@@bit427 so sad it was only on the wii!

[@bit427]

@@dragons_hook ikr!

[@shantaehalf-geniehero4318]

And switch too!

[@xxnike0629xx]

It's crazy how Capcom, SNK, and Tatsunoko are not addressing how much people have been wanting this. They skipped out the PS4 gen so hopefully we can get it on this gen on PS4, XSX, and Switch.

[@tycen3082]

Melee has had some longevity. Hopefully we can see mvc2 make a comeback sometime soon

[@technogale]

It was a blast to watch this video! Watching these 2 legendary and passionate players talking about old school FGC + MVC2 really brought the hype and nostalgia to me.

[@Traviee04]

Can y'all do this with Darkstalkers? It literally needs a "resurrection".

[@ZexionZeroThe2nd]

Facts

[@SK91NO]

Hm I dunno, Max and JWong have a passion for MVC2 like they'd clearly be biased for it in many scenarios its easier for them to speak on this especially since they're both involved in the scene (sorta not really Max) but with Darkstalkers I think the only thing that's happened between them is that JWong played in a tournament a bit ago

[@tyronjasonhuff]

Gia¿😎

[@flumestradamus]

The Darkstalkers Resurrection compilation game still exists for purchase/download on PS3/XBox360. The lackluster sales of the game is one of the reasons Capcom still hasn't given us a new Darkstalkers game. Buy the game and support the franchise if you can!

[@ejbricks2831]

This really needs to be done.

[@blountman747]

This is one of the most legendary moments in all of KZbin and will forever be etched in the archives in history as one of the greatest videos of all time 2 Legends meet together to talk about a Legendary game

[@rafaelramires5883]

And thats How TKO was born. 2y later, its intresting to match.

[@CQCGRID]

This is like Superman and Batman talking about that time Luthor was President and made them Public Enemies. You two are legends!!

[@tyronjasonhuff]

Curry for 3!!!!

[@jpcoqueran]

@@tyronjasonhuff miss!(sorry I hate curry lmao)

[@wiimaster06]

This game is truly something special. It's the game that I would actively seek out whenever I was in an arcade and if I found it I basically only played it the whole time I was there. My greatest memory with the game was playing one time at Disney Quest I ended running a long set against another guy (I think it ended up turning into a FT10) and we ended up attracting a small crowd. But also playing MvC 2 on XBLA with my friends was some of the best times I have had with fighting games.

[@YuzanYoshida]

Seeing Spider-Man in a fighting game as a kid blew my mind. I owe this game my love for the FGC. We gotta make something happen!

[@tomking3975]

MAHVEL'S BACK, BABY

[@kojiroh30]

Kinda funny this shows up in my recommendation 2yrs from its recording. Triple KO podcast incoming...

[@somethingoriginal1707]

LET'S GO JUSTIIIN

[@neok1yte494]

*Earthquake

[@cashordeals3672]

MvC2 on modern systems and crossplay would be 🔥

[@scarrface28]

Amazing looking back with confirmation that it is released!

[@GeneralAnonymity]

We need a part 2 now!

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Yes we do 😭

[@Amesang]

_MVC2_ was one of the few fighting games I just didn't "get" - especially with those HUGE jumps _("Where am I?! Where's my opponent?!")_ …but _damn_ was it fun as all Hell. I need to see if I can get my 360 to work again…

[@georgehernandez2156]

Problem is, competitors ruin the game by just using the same teams

[@ubergamer2010]

@@georgehernandez2156 the low-tier tournament that Yipes did commentary for in 2019 was THE BEST. Watching a tournament with no Magneto/Cable/Storm showed how much more fun the game is without them

[@eem2wavy133]

@@georgehernandez2156 well they are the best characters so it’s understandable they will be used more often than not

[@kenshinvxat]

We need to make MVC2 comeback again, new generation of gamers that didn't get to experience that much fun we had back in 2000 and why it remains as one of the best fighting games ever made.

[@saadhasan2518]

2000 was a great for me when it came to fighting games Kof 2000 MvC2 Tekken Tag Tournament 1

[@kenshinvxat]

@@saadhasan2518 Yeah Kof was a blast too!, but i wasn't too good at tekken tho didn't get to practice enough to challenge anyone.

[@saadhasan2518]

@@kenshinvxat Kof 2000 was the last game made by OG SNK before their bankruptcy (until Kof XIV) after this SNK Playmore took over the franchise and gave us some really amazing games such as Kof 11,Kof 13,Kof 2000,Kof Neowave and NeoGeo Battle Colliseum.

[@amirjubran1845]

Crazy how MVC2 art style is more appealing than 3 or infinite, despite it being 20 years old.

[@pugman9672]

I have a soft spot for everything marvel 3 so like it’s style

[@deeannchesebro]

@@pugman9672foooll

[@kholdkhaos64ray11]

When Justin was talking about how fast time flew for the babies, that fucking hit. I can't believe Ripley's 1 already too

[@riftph]

And now its back!!

[@StockeTepes]

Everyone manifesting Marvel vs Capcom coming back while Evo is right around the corner… coincidence?😳

[@JermyLerm]

MAX KNOWS SOMETHING I AM CONVINCED

[@scrublordesaka3678]

@@JermyLerm well, it’s gone on record that Max can will things into existence Eg: Dan in sfv

[@jpcoqueran]

@@scrublordesaka3678 he's like asmongold lol they are very aware of the power that they possess

[@Kara-de5cz]

@@scrublordesaka3678 Max makes stuff real

[@ckimels1479]

These guys should start a fighting game podcast together

[@ThePlasticBowl]

Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic but on the chance you’re not they do it’s called Triple KO

[@drewstar8611]

Coming back here after they announced the MvC collection!

[@mikeestill1672]

I had the DreamCast version. That was the VERY best version aside from the arcade of course.

[@therock238360]

The HD versions too

[@aoclive6710]

I played this game on ps2 . I was looking at my games tonight and I found a black label copy

[@robbyrobot3303]

​@@aoclive6710they printed none of the PS2 port. I worked at a GameStop in 2003 and we'd get one or two copies. The newer fighting games weren't selling but people were always asking if we had MvC2 on PS2

[@darktigersharkmax4432]

Crazy how much influence and impact mvc2 has

[@zata100]

WE NEED A NEW VIDEO OF THIS TOPIC

[@DiegoDeschain]

I love this type of content, just watching you guys talk and chill, it's very relaxing.

[@franklee538]

I remember seeing X-men vs Street Fighter for the first time in my small town and it was one of the most amazing things ever. My dad never took us to the mall but whenever we went, I was so excited to go see it become MvC and then MvC2. Good times

[@EpyttnelisYT]

Coming back to this after that amazing announcement gives me hope for the future

[@philmayf]

I dumped thousands of hours into exploring all kinds of characters back in 2000-2004 in college. The low tier characters are so fun to explore.

[@mme1vis]

Was watching J react to a Max video yesterday, and the top comments were asking for this Collab. Please make this a regular thing. Love both of y'all

[@MylesMartinez]

Something else that contributes to MvC2's enduring popularity is the varied cast of characters. We've got X-Men, Avengers, Street Fighters, Spidermen, Darkstalkers, and even classic Capcom Characters. Something for everyone.

[@rogersnick17]

WE BACK BABY!

[@WingZX1103]

WE NEED MVC2 BACK DAMN IT

[@jpcoqueran]

All they gotta do is add new music, stages, and new artworks and call it 2.5 remix lmao I'd pay 60 bucks....while waiting for mvc4 in the same art style 👀

[@Gangstafather]

Thanks for the talk with Justin. Would love to see more of it with some other OGs. Maybe Mike Ross?

[@gamemasterbob9]

Loved this talk

[@BlackMasamuneX]

Once this is successful, you can work on bringing back Capcom vs SNK 2.

[@happyfeet17gus]

I came from the Future to annoucne MVC 2 with rollback on the Switch has been announced

[@Marosire]

Max I love just hearing you talk about your passion for fighting games and you gotta start a podcast!!

[@onilao]

Loved this chat between two legends, seemed really down to earth...just two doods who want there fav fighting game back in the light! hope it happens since i would love to play it against people!

[@CanalBillCast]

The "Let's go!" in the intro was cutted... ;-;

[@guardian4452]

I played this game alot with my cousin at my uncle's house and we had so much fun with it. I hope this game gets ported to switch and other modern consoles

[@albatross990]

12:05 This reminds me of a cool MvC2 tournament concept. There was a tournament Justin entered where you had so many points and characters cost points to be on your team. The higher the tier the more points they cost, making for some interesting team compositions!

[@LeonoEnamorado]

Love that this got recommended in the year of our lord 2024

[@dablaccaiyan9152]

Awesome video, this campaign Max started is blowing up....saw the shit on Google and Twitter....hopefully they re release this Gem of a fighting game ( even though I'm good I have it on hella things including PS2 ) and possibly idk maybe we'll be closer to receiving MVC4

[@dragon_turtle]

I still have my copy of MvC2 for Dreamcast . its one of my most prized possessions. I just don't have a dreamcast anymore lol. Here's to hoping it gets a re-release someday 🤘❤

[@RomnysGonzalez]

This was so much fun and interesting to hear. You should do Yipes next !

[@claymckenzie1380]

Never forget I was 16 years old in 2000 and my local arcade in the mall had MvC2 and there was always a line to play it took forever! Thankfully later that year I got it on Dreamcast. My favorite fighting game ever!

[@aoclive6710]

Mine to . Me and my late best friend played every single day minus family holidays and school exams . Such awesome carefree days

[@smurfyeah3744]

I'd like to see jazz covers of each character themes added.

[@ShadowCoH316]

If we get that MVC2 remake I'd love a built-in Ratio Mode with online ladder. That would bring me back so fast.

[@myrmidon2537]

Hey Max, I wrote a piece on the Philippine MvC2 meta (level 1 damage) on the Marvel vs Capcom 2 facebook page back in 2014. I was also the one doing commentary for the match that Jwong was commenting. The arcade hardware also has a function to change timer *Speed*, so we were set for the longest time to Damage 1, longest timer so that the players would get more play time on their tokens. I believe the console versions don't have a setting to change timer speed so it was very hard to recreate the arcade experience in console. Its only until 2 years ago that people were starting to explore playing it in US/Evo/Default settings.

[@spoogtastic]

2 years later and we are getting thr mvc collection! Ahhhh

[@MentalLiberation]

And now, they meet...and all was right with the world

[@orlanzo2621]

They met WAY before this man, lol. I remember Max posted a video of him, Justin, and a bunch of other guys like Marn, Floe, James Chen, etc playing MVC 3 at his house from like 2011.

[@MentalLiberation]

@@orlanzo2621 holy smokes. Talk about a murderer's row

[@Lalaphive]

We did it baby. MAHVELS BACK!!!!

[@mrfo0l68]

Two legends!

[@cambodianboy3683]

God damn this was such an epic chat between two legendary figures within the community

[@cRaZyGaMeR415]

Growing up we always played on damage level 1. Makes the matches last longer.

[@Spicypuff]

"Hayato is still trash" But he has a cool beam sword tho

[@RepublicOfUs]

He *does* have that beam sword. Can't be overstated.

[@Kheydinss_]

played strider and hayato to have "guys with swords" team, just didnt have a 3rd sword guy

[@down-timegaming]

@@Kheydinss_ Silver Samurai ?

[@Kheydinss_]

@@down-timegaming 12 year old me was stupid . why didnt i think of that

[@zachculberson4457]

This is sick. I love these two dudes.

[@juliogaytan20]

I think my favorite part of this video were just two dads talking about their babies. I live for that wholesome content.

[@marcusmoller5985]

Two awesome doods talking/playing an awesome game!

[@TlelocGaming]

AGREE man

[@zeedelahostria]

Happy that the Philippines is on Justin's map! Fighting games were the shizz here back when arcades were a thing. We still have a solid (albeit niche) community here, and I would sell my soul for a resurgence after the pandemic. 😁

[@RelatosDeUnReploid]

Epic crossover. I gladly appreciate all the work you people make to bring MVC2 back to the mainstream. Here's for a succesful comeback!

[@maziio646]

This video made me so happy for some reason

[@lynxishd9587]

How sick would it be if this was a series of talking to legends, about legendary games, and then playing some sets.

[@clenchingpluh]

Would love if you could do this kinda of an "interview" with Yipes at some point

[@lerozitos]

YES!!!!

[@LoneWolf81684]

He recently got back into doing his No Frillz podcast. Maybe he can get Max to talk about MvC2 over there.

[@guymanjoni]

D00d this was really cool! I wanna see more episodes with u and jwong talking about the good ol days

[@BigBenFTW]

Please make these conversations a regular thing. It's gold

[@mr.yanganagi7479]

Two games that needs to exist and bring back MvC2 and CvS2

[@kingofthesharks]

This revival movement needs the perseverance of Justin's Cyclops

[@JohnLML123]

2 legends have come together! I wanna get this game, so I hope we can get this game back!

[@AVENTUS03]

Allowing option for matches 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, and RATIO MODE, would be insane to bring it back with that versatility. Also, allowing at least 4 players or possibly a full 6 players to all jump in when tagged ala an enhanced version of CROSS FEVER brought to Dreamcast MVC1, where all 4p each on their own controller, could all play on screen at once for a quick burst. REMATCH button, record and playback, and Ratio mode or 1v1, 2v2 modes would all be epic additions.

[@omarnuno8890]

Another mvc 2 vid