Lets talk about Hitscan

In Fortnite Chapter 5, we moved from hitscan in Battle Royale to projectile-based weapons, and it split the community. Those who prefer hitscan claim it's easier, while those against it argue that projectile weapons are more skillful to use. But will projectile or hitscan be the choice for the bullet system in Chapter 6?
credit ‪@Klarque_Clint‬

[@Therapist_Demoman]

I think this kinda just made the balancing worse. It’s why weapons felt great. Like either choice you could win. But now it feels weapons are just, “ok I need this one specific ar, shotgun, and the new marvel weapons if I want to win” Could just be weapon design.

[@MrJayOWhy]

🤔 i guess

[@fish_R_stinky69]

Zero build *needs* projectile because you can't have a KBM pro lazering people from 1000m away.

[@lawabidingjoe7020]

As a primarily zero build player, I think a middle ground could be struck. I'm thinking *slightly* faster bullet travel as a counter to whatever OP mobility item Epic seems to add every season. Also I think that certain light ammo weapons (not the monarch pistol or thunder burst smg) should be hit-scan because their range is already so limited. Overall, both systems are good.

[@upisaurus]

real

[@Splatz007]

Iv suggested a mix of the two versions in the past. That just makes sense.

[@S1mekus]

I like projectile more than hitscan. Maybe they could make a hybrid system like warzone: 0m - 80m = hitscan 81 - more = bullet turns into projectile this would make long range fights not "too easy" yet close range gunfight more "responsive" since sometimes in closer ranges the bullets feel too slow + if you could have fully auto hitscan ar with the sniper scope attachment... you would basically have mk7, twin mag, red eye clones and it would be annoying to push towards zone when someone beams you from like 150m with ar for easy damage

[@braidynlavigne3020]

I miss hitscan ngl

[@Alex-po7fp]

Same. I stopped playing br in ch5 launch and started playing again when reload came out. I hope we go back to hitscan when ch6 comes out.

[@cheerful_crop_circle]

​@@Alex-po7fpIdk , to me hitscan feels too automatic after you get used to projectile. I think projectile is much better than hitscan but pls dont hate on me

[@ARHAANTALWAAR]

​​@@cheerful_crop_circle now people don't like to make things easier ok

[@aidinniplays]

@@Alex-po7fpI honestly don’t care but your opinion

[@Edvard6_]

Idk why you guys saying this system is better, we literally have bloom and on top of that bullet drop. There was a reason why tourney players preferred the thunder burst for 3 WHOLE SEASONS. With the right mods you could eliminate all the bloom and its drop was slightly better than the rifles this whole CHAPTER. Its pretty obvious we need to go back to the c3-4 era of gunplay with hitscan, scoped rifles cuz this shit is ass. Unless you want this game to become Sniper Elite 4, like in c5s1. Also this seasons mobility would be countered easily if we had hitscan

[@KalvinKoolAidKool]

Honestly hitscan made more sense since the game already had bloom. If they wanted to add bullet drop into the game they need to seriously fix how bloom works now since bloom not only messed with your accuracy but also your weapons bullet drop

[@ufab9058]

if weapon mods (specifically scopes) get the augment treatment then i think chapter 6 weapons will be hitscan. i prefer hitscan 100% but it can be overpowered sometimes, like the mk7. to balance it out, epic could just have a system where most weapons with no scope are hitscan, and all weapons with scopes are projectile. idk how that would work using the same weapon, because i imagine that switching ur weapon from hitscan to projectile would be buggy

[@MarianzYT]

Not at all, just make some logic to raytrace when hipfiring and spawn projectile entities when ADSing, very simple to manage in game design, Epic is just lazy and doesn't know what direction to take the game. Change for the sake of change is what they're doing and that is not good

[@Jackson-r3z7t]

I love fn, I also like this season, but I don't understand why epic always heavily change things no one complains about. Like hit scan and the locker UI. BTW, I want hit scan back

[@Fortniteman365]

For real, hitscan is so much nicer. If it’s not in chapter 6 that will be a huge let down

[@ryanfares263]

I think they want to test the waters that's why

[@ARHAANTALWAAR]

Fortnite is already a harder game so hitscan should come back especially in builds

[@cheerful_crop_circle]

Projectile is actually easier to use than hitscan, is it just me?

[@ARHAANTALWAAR]

@@cheerful_crop_circle now this is a question how does hitscan which just means aim on to the player and shoot is harder than bullet drop for which you have to calculate and aim high so that it can hit the player

[@empiyrr2133]

The problem is there’s not enough mod benches to add sights onto guns which would compensate for projectile and the floor loot doesn’t have sights in them usually

[@Lit-C]

Hey, that's me

[@theorangeninjagames]

People seem to forget that you could counter the bloom of hitscan if you tap fire which requires precision mouse placement and also it’s almost impossible to have ar long range fights now or even hitting people on high bases because the bullet will drop before it could go over the builds to hit an opponent so I want hitscan back and I actually have it the reason why I hate chapter 5 the most

[@Hamishplpls]

hear me out if you have a scope make it projectile if u don't make it hiscan

[@NomercyMohau14]

I don't like projectile simply because a lot of weapons in the loot pool loose their identity. If every weapon is projectile then what's the point of carrying another type of gun when the other version is just clearly better. For example the combat ar used to have certain positives and negatives to it because of its uniqueness to the normal ar but now there's no real positive to using it because there's uniqueness to it. As a comp player I hate projectile simply because although yes it removes the bloom rng it adds a whole different type of rng and that's you just don't get a weapon with a scope. How many games just get ruined because I didn't land the best Poi or because I didn't get lucky enough to get this type of gun. Another reason is that I forces me to land at the best Poi instead of landing at a decent one, especially in pubs. Like why should I land anywhere other than the mythic Poi cause I'm just gonna die to a person who did land there.

[@ImJustAnOtakuYT]

i feel like the only person who likes projectile.. idk if its cuz im on controller, but like it feels soooo much nicer tbh, i like having to calculate and line my shots before making them. and honeslty prjectile feels easier to me tbh, and its super satisfying to use

[@garrettrice4540]

i agree with the projectile, however i do think they should buff the bullet travel speed and reduce the drop a bit for some guns. the new striker burst feels super close to hitscan however requires skill to hit realllyyyy far shots or moving players and i feel like thats the middle ground we need. bullet drop isn’t making fortnite “not fortnite” ppl just like to whine about a change to a game and then when it gets reverted complain about how the game gets stagnant.

[@CheemsIsGod_]

I’ve played Fortnite since the start and hitscan never felt like an issue to me and making all weapons projectiles made the game more sweaty imo. Remember at the start of ch5 when snipers were used left right and centre? That’s because if it takes the same effort to line up a shot with a normal weapon, why not use the weapon that heavily rewards that kind of gameplay?

[@chemistrymike]

Hitscan is needed if you're going to have items like the jetpack in the game

[@ryanfares263]

Ch5 really feels like a whole new game because we got new movement, bullet drop, locker UI, lobby UI now this lobby UI was introduced in ch4 s4 before we went into Fortnite OG but it is the ch5 lobby UI, rarities removed, removing seasonal mythics for collab mythics, and age ratings these age ratings were introduced in OG but it is for ch5 so really what is Fortnite doing Reload is so much better than ch5 I mean cartoonish graphics from ch1 and hitscan who can't say no to that

[@ryanfares263]

Honestly I hope ch6 brings back hitscan

[@alvarobrufalgarcia86]

I get lasered in BR or zero build with the new famas anyways so I don’t really care anymore about hitscan or projectile, gonna get lasered either way

[@Dup_AR1S]

I would pay to get hitscan back nobody used to complain about getting lazered out of the sky every other chapter

[@MrJayOWhy]

Really 💀

[@Doom82828]

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[@MrJayOWhy]

2 you say give me a second

[@alexfnbr01]

i started playing fortnite in chapter 5 season 1 and i prefer hitscan just from playing reloads and creative hitscan makes the game so much more fun and whther its op or not i dont really mind i just want fun and hitscan is that

[@ameliamac5024]

Hitscan all the way honestly miss it

[@tonyxultra2279]

Hitscan weapons: Simple and easy to use. Bullet drop weapons: Complex and takes skill to use. Is it wrong that I feel more confident in using hitscan weapons than bullet drops weapons? I know this is a skill issue and all, but it's frustrating to use bullet drop weapons. I feel so burnout with Chapter 5 weapons. It was good in season 1, but over time, it had gotten repetitive and annoying.

[@MrJayOWhy]

That's what I was saying: one being easy and one being hard is still a point, but it's not an argument against either.

[@Roolucky_25]

I mean, for me just depend on the weapon like with strike a burst AR I think it’s better without hit scan, but then there are some weapons that I think are a little bit better with hit scan

[@raze-_-green]

I think hit scanned is a better choice because that’s What made Fortnite cartoonish Game. but a bullet drop system. I’m OK with it, but I prefer hit scan system. Epic games is making so much changes that it doesn’t feel much like Fortnite.

[@Klarque_Clint]

Great video Jay. I'm still a bit mixed on which is the best for the game moving forward. I understand that hitscan can seem unfair but it also creates a sense of tension when playing the game. You have to be more aware of your surroundings and it prevents players from getting comfortable standing still. Bullet drop also adds another skill curve on top of building. Which is why maybe having zero builds be bullet drop and builds hitscan is a viable compromise, but then again, even with the threat of getting beamed I like hitscan in zero build. Does bullet drop take more skill? Undeniably yes. However is it a necessary skill curve to introduce? I'm not sure. I can use both and have good games with both, but the weapons that use hitscan still feel better than these weapons. Just the way they fire and hit feels rewarding and you still need to have good aim with hitscan just not as good as bullet drop. Definitely one to think about. I'm personally still leaning towards hitscan but if they can buff bullet drop a bit that might also be the right move. Might make a lot of the new weapons feel smoother.

[@MrJayOWhy]

someone's going to be hung out to dry

[@Splatz007]

​@@MrJayOWhyagreed we got new players who have no idea how to properly use hit scan. I have some freinds who say they don't like reload. An domt play it. An im guessing that's why. They prefer to play zb instead. I'm fine with both. Love me some ar hit scan. An snipers are so fun.

[@MrSelioss]

I dont really care about hitscan or not its the problem with fort changing stuff rhat quite literally didnt need to change. Like why did they change movement animation and made walk and run speed slower just so they can have a bunch of bugs they needed to switch afterwards and having to adjust other stuff like zone speed or even the pickaxe animation, like who waw even complainibg abt that

[@ryanfares263]

I hope hitscan does return bullet drop sucks

[@cowboybaconbookey]

Like i said they’re both annoying but with hitscan it just doesnt feel right like take the micro smg for example its just way too much to comprehend

[@cowboybaconbookey]

but to talk about projectiles it’s something different. obviously take snipers for example you get used to it but its just so annoying especially if you get recoil on something like idk ar

[@fish_R_stinky69]

@@cowboybaconbookey Yeah, snipers blank a lot.

[@mrharryhd]

bro dont us ninja in ur thumbnail ur not him i thought u where

[@PulseKzio]

the real bullshit in this game is bloom not my fault my aim is good don't penalize me for it

[@Indie_Live]

All I can say is learn how to tap fire, it's super easy. If they are at a longer range, don't spray your gun. It's just common sense.

[@PulseKzio]

@@Indie_Live I know how to tap fire I’ve been doing what since modern warfare 2 (OG) the issue is if my crosshair is directly on you and I’m shooting my gun there is no reason I should be penalized for having good aim and 90% of my bullets fly into the void

[@Indie_Live]

@@PulseKzio your first shot should be fully accurate so I don't think that's an issue with the game if you are tap firing at range

[@fish_R_stinky69]

Fr, the bloom on the Reload guns is craaazzyyy.

[@PulseKzio]

@@Indie_Live tap firing is more used to negate recoil at medium to long ranges the only reason tap fire is in Fortnite is 1. Because of recoil which is fine and 2. Because there is bloom so it encourages you to take the time to stay still and be aimed on your scope/sights which is no where near ideal when you can get 1 tap headshot sniped it’s the fact that if you have above average aim and can keep your cross hair locked on a player from medium to long distance the game should not be penalizing me with bloom that makes half of my bullets miss to make it more “fair” to the other player