Are You Part of This Heist? - GTA V: Heist F*around (#4)

[@CaptainMcCanada]

Gavin: "I Think maybe my gamma too low" It has been too low for literal YEARS.

[@cillianodonnell9442]

Much like when he "somehow has usernames turned off" for about 3 years haha

[@creativecookbook]

gamma is too low do you mean 3.6. Then it is not great, not terrible

[@YamiReigen]

@just a man I don't that will actually happen. They all have different eyesight so what is comfortable for one might be really uncomfortable for someone else. there's several video where Alfredo complains about adjusting to the other's settings. I don't remember if his eyes are bad or if he's just so used to certain settings, but the adjustment can cause headaches until their eyes adjust to the change. At least they try to meet in some kind of middle ground when they can Speaking as a person who has severe astigmatism and a horrible time adjusting to something as silly as font size.

[@joshuaw3157]

Gavin has been complaining about his gamma on and off for the better part of a decade

[@adamshearer4576]

ever think Michael having different day night cycles and winter still around might be a part of the broken shit??

[@Merrygate_]

Michael probably thinks everyone's is like that, so didn't say anything, so no one else knew that Michael's was bugged

[@therealasian6999]

Shhhhhhhhh don’t let them know

[@PumpkinChild1302]

I kept getting blinded every time it cut to Michael because everything was white.

[@InugamiTheHound]

I love how Michael is night time and snowing LOL

[@HD.Keem96]

He has transcended the mortal coil

[@kabbaage]

Big shocker that the entire audience wants them to do every single step in the heist. It's a damn heist. We love heists Matt!

[@teamredshirt]

Also unsurprising that they found A way to fuck it up and miss some.

[@Braydzz]

Because it's just going to go back to broken snipers vs stunters maps I don't think people make new good custom maps anymore.

[@kabbaage]

@@teamredshirt To be fair to them, a good part of it is Rockstar's fault. Like how it started the mission for Gav only

[@CoolGuyDude]

"Why is it Night?" "???" I fucking died lmao, props to the editor

[@Catdemondarkness]

It's the little edits like that always seem to be the funniest. Devil's in the details, they say. Guess there's hysteria in them too.

[@casualbird7671]

What time was that?

[@SH4D0W0733]

@@casualbird7671 11:52

[@casualbird7671]

@@SH4D0W0733 Thank you very much, I didn't notice that!

[@WillKeaton]

Armed men break into a secured building. "Give us what we want or we'll start shooting!" "Okay. What do you want?" "We don't know!"

[@creativecookbook]

passive aggressivenes at its finest

[@insaincaldo]

@@creativecookbook Are you sure?

[@creativecookbook]

@@insaincaldo maybe

[@SH4D0W0733]

ARE YOU PART OF THIS!?!?

[@JukeTD]

Something about already having the best of times from an AH vid and then reading comments like these crack me the fuck up 😂😂

[@ricoiglesias501]

This is the most scuffed heist I’ve ever seen

[@morgantaylor84]

Yeah, Rockstar's AAA developer was really showing in this one.

[@Recon_Riptor]

@@morgantaylor84 Just the one.

[@morgantaylor84]

@@Recon_Riptor Well to be fair it also was showing when they attempted Doomsday Heist Criminal Masterminds, but that's still a really good track record these days.

[@Recon_Riptor]

@@morgantaylor84 I mean just the one developer

[@ghostgurlgamer]

@@aldovesper1362 Something that is terrible or unbearable, I believe.

[@HunterX2408]

0:17 Michael comments on how they haven’t cleaned the snow up while everyone else is snowless and no one bats an eye 😂

[@Vintage_Davis]

There's a Reddit thread containing a list of glitches found in this heist - it has 66 entries. I think it might be a little bit broken :d

[@chrisbuttonshaw2088]

but is it Cyberpunk broken?

[@Iybraesil]

That's what happens when you just release new content for a game for 8 years without working on your infrastructure.

[@kjj26k]

@@Iybraesil Reminds me of Bungie's current day woes.

[@lggray1830]

@@kjj26k ahh a fellow light bearer how dp you do

[@casualbird7671]

I need to see this thread

[@supermario2100]

The Cedders story is absolutely gonna be an animated in the near future.

[@elvee88]

anyone have a link ?

[@3p1c_Mustache]

Which version? This one, or the 2012 one?

[@josephshepherd2351]

@@3p1c_Mustache the 2012 one

[@josephshepherd2351]

@Mrs. Faberry not at the moment but i can try finding it

[@metabolic329]

I think the story is in a gta v vid when ray was still there. I want to say gta v cops and crooks or most dangerous game (gta version)

[@XxChooseYourFatexX]

I wish that Michael said something about how dark and snowy it is so that the other guys would have been like wait wtf do you mean?

[@BTBSOUNDS]

I mean he did say it was foggy early on, no one noticed

[@XxChooseYourFatexX]

@@BTBSOUNDS true

[@deoredus]

0:41

[@stingingcashew2321]

They screwed around so much that reality itself seems to be breaking down around them

[@spyhunter7056]

37:24 when jeremy jumped out of the helicopter and fell down the stairs i couldn't breath

[@lazyfoxplays8503]

How about when Jeremy jumped out the window and yelled, “Express!” And then died? Hehe

[@Cm0N.]

“I can’t call in an already called in sub!!” *is hovering over the option to return the sub to storage*

[@samzawreck9869]

pain

[@illuminousloo]

Literally I shouted at my phone 💀💀💀

[@laurenoptified1701]

Gavin is the best pilot i I have ever seen that can't fly

[@kabi6096]

What are you talking about!? just look at these moves 26:59

[@Littlespree5302]

Had me in the first half

[@winst7765]

But...what about Launchpad McQuack?

[@teddobbins8135]

To be fair, most pilots who can't fly aren't around anymore.

[@LazyBoarding]

He is the worst pilot I have ever heard of but I have heard of him

[@Ttamlin]

Gavin: "This is nothing. This hasn't been anything...!" Me: This is the best GTAV video I've watched in forever!

[@MissRadi0active]

Yeah this whole heist has been gold. 😂😂

[@dragon_storm_4830]

Editor: "Why is it night" "???" Me: "Why is it only snowy on Michael's screen" "???" These are the mysteries that will never be answered....

[@PantsuGirl]

He is stuck in a time loop, have happened to me more than once, the in game clock goes a few "minutes" than rewinds back those minutes and then just keeps on doing it until what ever causes it changes in the game!

[@TheActualMrLink]

Michael is in Inaba after a few days of rain.

[@izlibug3628]

@@TheActualMrLink I'm playing through P4 for the first time, up to Rise's Palace now, it's so Good!!!

[@staryknight2452]

Basically the time and snow are client side. If you join a server before they get rid of the snow it won't go away until you leave the session.

[@dragon_storm_4830]

@@staryknight2452 That would make sense, if they didn't join a new session a little after 40:09 and Michael still has snow.

[@raybandolphin3820]

They joke about it a lot in the video, but these are the best kind of videos. They're just having fun no matter what the objective actually is

[@kabi6096]

I like how they always yeet themselves out of a moving vehicle

[@RickachuCXVI]

How else would you leave?

[@fleurdelis329]

I will never get tired of Michael's wit and his exacerbation whenever the game breaks or somebody is fucking with him, the way he does it so quickly too always fucking kills me, especially with Matt.

[@casualbird7671]

Remember in crimmies when Michael said "It's like we're fighting an unbeatable foe: the Rockstar servers"

[@norwoodeye2580]

I love the clear-sunny/dark-snowy switching.

[@GrouchyGander]

Gavin shot himself in perfect sync with the notification bell at the end. Nice job, editors!

[@RickachuCXVI]

Huh, one of Michael's first statements was him acknowledging he still had snow, unfortunately no one picked up on that

[@Lauren-zx3gx]

Michael’s pilot droll was so spot on.

[@julie_nelson55]

as someone who's been watching AH content for 8 years, y'all have *never* told the "Ceddars" story

[@adamd832]

They have talked about it a couple times....

[@idk5716]

I’m pretty confident u haven’t watched every single video they have ever made in the past 8 years so how would u know?

[@deoredus]

@@adamd832 care to share the links to the videos?

[@Flavoaw1013]

They've definitely told it before

[@e39purist89]

Someone needs to tally up the total amount they've spent on excessive travel arrangements.

[@JordanDragonAs]

It's over 10 trillion from last year

[@nomarsenrab]

The fact that they get out of their weaponized vehicles to get into the luxor to fly to a mission

[@KennethDevriese]

Took me 30mins to realise it is only snowy on Michaels screen 😂

[@MrOmegaDivine]

Which makes me wonder. Could he have whipped snowballs at the others🤔

[@cameronwilsey9334]

It first I just thought that something was wrong with his lighting settings

[@TrainerPlatinumSinnoh]

It has been how many years since they started playing this game and Gavin STILL takes off an hour before anybody enters any vehicle he is in control of every single time, usually running them over in the process

[@kjj26k]

'Cus it never gets old to watch! 😂

[@TheActualMrLink]

He’s impatient, what can I say?

[@vikshere]

i think the funniest thing about this is that 50% of the chaos is just the game being broken. like it's not even their fault theyre goofing around and getting nothing done because this heist seems to be a buggy disaster. also the weather being different on everyones screen is so weird. like michael has snow and is always at a different time of day, meanwhile the others sometimes have fog that another one doesnt. its just a mess.

[@marukomyon5596]

This is like the most disjointed heist I've ever seen. It's like someone frankenstein-ed a bunch of online missions and called it a heist

[@baldilocks2356]

I know, I feel like the whole thing was made by the Rockstar B-team or something.

[@ffffffffffffffff5840]

@@thunderbird7020 I haven't been able to play it, but it looks like it would have a lot of replayability with the different options

[@Nick-cs4oc]

You mean like everything ever released for gta?

[@Nick-cs4oc]

@@thunderbird7020 after it’s done a few times it’s super repetitive, there really isn’t much variation. And the prep missions are so simple it hurts. Sub prep is alright but still simple af. It does pay really freakin well tho so I endure it.

[@likecrazyhorse]

Gavin's garage is like the Island of Misfit Cars

[@sutekidane94]

That was a solid hour of only 1 thing being accomplished.

[@sleepyjean4071]

Like Jeremy, I always thought "Cedders!" was some kind of inside joke about Cedric Diggory...

[@catbernhoft69]

everyone: arguing gavin: not speaking and running over every possible thing

[@thunderbird7020]

I believe CEDDERS was yelled in the monopoly let’s play (actual monopoly, not Minecraft monopoly). Edit: just checked. It is part 1 of the monopoly let’s play at 8:20

[@Kirbopoyoo]

It’s also in Minecraft! Just don’t know which episode. Someone’s got it on the AH sub

[@kitkun7669]

Love how solid GTA is. No bugs at all.

[@omarpineda57]

All it took was a lot of heavy updates and patches. May we never forget how we used to get stuck in the sky.

[@baldilocks2356]

Rockstar really put the bare minimum into these heist preps, didn't they?

[@boboloboloo10]

Let's be honest, the only thing that isn't broken in GTA online is the microtransaction system.... Unless you count infinite processing screens. But hey, at least they still managed to charge your card.

[@informalnarwhals]

to be fair this heist is made to be able to be done solo. so even just this one running around to open the sluice and, seeing as the boat guns are useless, probably stopping to shoot the helicopters, would take way longer alone. they may feel bare minimum because theyre pretty straightforward tasks parsed into many preps, instead of the usual 'go destroy everything they know and love in 5 minutes also bring back pizza good luck' lol :P

[@esdraslouis]

Why is micheal in a whole other time zone?

[@aether1356]

@@thebandit0256 what does that even mean? Eastern what?

[@clonetrooper730]

@@aether1356 Eastern Time Zone ??? As in East Coast US prob.

[@scottakasprite]

@@thebandit0256 Jeremy is the one in Eastern Time Zone, everyone else is Central..

[@scottakasprite]

@@thebandit0256 Every time zone in this area snows during the winter.. Except Pacific, around the west coast stays mild enough.. Time Zones don't effect weather

[@plackt]

Wow, can’t imagine thinking that time zones (longitude) have ANYTHING to do with snow (latitude).

[@ATPokemon]

It isn't Achievement Hunter until someone unintentionally breaks the game (in this case Micheal).

[@jamesshelton1127]

Michael*

[@deoredus]

@@jamesshelton1127 It isn't Achievement Hunter comments section until someone unintentionally misspells a name (in this case @ATPokemon)

[@mr.moustachio6868]

1:02:20 I love how the editors perfectly timed Gavin killing himself with the notification bell😂😂

[@InugamiTheHound]

yeah that was awesome. The ring sounded covered up the bullet sound effect.

[@ColonelPeppers]

Rockstar has made billions of dollars off this game and it is still broken after eight years. They need to release more bug fixes.

[@GusUglySorola]

They've made billions off of a glitchy game, what's their incentive to improve?

[@RafaelValle12]

Bug fixes dont make money. It's the same reason politicians are for building new bridges instead of fixing old ones. Fixing them is necessary but not flashy. Building a new one gets a ton of praise.

[@Murph_the_robot]

Last heist: *impossible to do due to bugs* Rockstar: "lets release a new heist" I hate rockstar with a passion, amazing how AH keeps making good content out of a terrible game! Love these lads!

[@johnwatson8977]

Boggled my mind in 7 years of GTA they've never double tapped down to enlarge the map and fix the zoom in issue 😂

[@d4rkshua]

Well its like the fact that none of them press left on the dpad to throw grenades while aiming with a gun lol

[@johnwatson8977]

@@d4rkshua the fact that these same people can figure out all of that Galacticraft, Sky Factory, Stoneblock stuff, but can't figure out that if you return the submarine to storage you can call it much closer. Or that you just call the Sparrow to be like 2m away from you. Achievement Hunter are so entertaining yet so frustrating 😂 they're like the world's smartest dumb people. Or the world's dumbest smart people.

[@d4rkshua]

@@johnwatson8977 lol exactly

[@KallenVM]

True but this dlc has so many bugs that you rarely see the map glitch out like that.

[@boboloboloo10]

@@johnwatson8977 Bold to say they figured out any of the modded minecraft stuff. They still spend a few episodes trying to make something in a really convoluted way because they don't know to check the other tabs at the top of JEI

[@Solemn_Dullahan]

one of the highest selling games of all time; can't be bothered to make sure their content actually works

[@lordofsmore9765]

Hey Rockstar... Obviously no need for dedicated servers eh? This mess shows otherwise

[@stefbz4405]

i always love their gta’s but this heist is easily one of my fave series so far. every video so far is so dumb but so so good

[@garrettgerber155]

Michaels playing from an alternate dimension or something. He’s in winter and the opposite time of day

[@knight4today]

Gav is so lucky Jack isn’t there to kick off the mugging.

[@EnderofGames]

95% of the time they are in the same organization... can't mug org members, unfortunately.

[@samuelfawell9159]

I’m glad that Jeremy finally tackled the “cedders” issue, I am pretty sure that they never explained what “cedders” actually was.

[@josh2101]

Samuel Fawell they have in the last month or so, cant remember what video it was...

[@samuelfawell9159]

@@josh2101 that’s what I mean, I remember them saying “cedders” years ago, but never actually explained what it was.

[@2Grievous]

@@josh2101 That is what Jeremy meant, the last video was the first time he had ever heard it explained, and Michael and Gavin were sure that it had been explained years before.

[@FabledThunder]

Michael: Take your flute out and play it. Me: I understood that reference.

[@Rio..o7..]

Paah pu paa pu pu paaaah

[@aldovesper1362]

I didn't

[@Rio..o7..]

@@aldovesper1362 Green Ranger uses a flute/dagger to summon the Dragonzord

[@aldovesper1362]

@@Rio..o7.. Thanks

[@miltonaupperle9496]

27:04 - Jeremy : "Don't Go to Low" - Gavin crashes the helicopter into a barrier... Epic....

[@EnbyCatboyGF]

That was as Gavin would say "A cinematic plane crash landing" with the gold luxor 49:50

[@maxfern5701]

That whole sequence was amazing lol

[@zigzagarisen]

Rockstar has clearly stopped trying, and this heist is the perfect example. Maybe they have spent all their staffing budget on money counters?

[@thefuzzygamesYT]

I’m dying at the absolute mess of this heist, I love it. Also the fact it’s snowing on Michael’a screen but it isn’t weird to him 🤣🤣

[@jackdaw6095]

Snowing AND opposite time

[@thefuzzygamesYT]

@@jackdaw6095 when they are realising it’s broken I don’t realise how they didn’t think that this might be the result of a broken server lol

[@djFITZo8]

40:51 Cedders! Story timestamp

[@Splitzblue]

Perfect since that's the part that was animated.

[@lukeboulding4971]

I love the fact that it is night and day, snowing and clear all at the same time 🤣🤣🤣

[@williamautry3148]

GTA V is such a wonderful game, absolutely no bugs and everything works exactly as plan every time

[@FDKMOGAR]

Michael playing the song of the Dragonzord made my week

[@jacobdwyer966]

Loving the longer videos between these and LASO. Please keep the long multiplayer campaign stuff coming!

[@ectogaming20]

GTA V is a perfect game with no bugs and glitches whatsoever

[@MadisonPickleSteele]

These "heists" with this crew have been some of the funniest videos I've seen from AH in a long time. I always enjoy the content on this channel but I haven't laughed this hard in a while. Thank you for the serotonin!!

[@drskelebone]

I love that Moon Ball Rules apply to everything: Michael: Back up! Matt: Uhh? I'm OVER HERE!? Michael: I said, "back up." Matt: You did.

[@drskelebone]

I can't believe Jeremy fell down the stairs.

[@ToX1cPythonz]

I'm still blown away at how they don't realize you can press down on the d-pad a few times to zoom the map out.

[@chrisbuttonshaw2088]

well the game is brand new.....

[@TheActualMrLink]

They just aren’t smart. I can relate

[@Straitupsmith69]

the content they think is terrible i think is hilarious XD

[@Pezamont]

The chaos, the glitches and the general randomness of this is actually brilliant! This is probably one of my favourite Gta videos they’ve ever done!

[@atipruzlan]

After 7 years they still didn't know the Merryweather base lmao

[@retr0varietyshow]

I love that Michael is spliced between dimensions

[@FrostedParadox]

I've never heard the Ceddar's story before the last video.

[@monauralsnail0669]

The heists are always such a clusterfuck and I love it.

[@ocrimsonxiii]

Jeremy lied, Rimmy shot the sniper when he was next to the cops lol

[@robertmehal]

Their gonna end up redoin all of this, I have a feeling.

[@MissRadi0active]

Same....I dont know if its a good thing or not. Good thing for us, bad for their sanity. 😂

[@dirtybirdsf]

New things to do: Water World... you're welcome Myat.

[@BIGBodsta]

The plane landing was golden haha

[@FinalDisnerd]

25:51 "Matt why? You killed Jeremy?" No, Michael. YOU killed Jeremy, and I legit have no clue how.

[@trader9028]

11:53 editor asking the real questions

[@Wildcard-Jack-47]

This heist is so scuffed and I wouldn’t even say it’s AH’s fault it’s just the heist is made poorly

[@afatsackofflour5519]

Naw don't give them a pass. If you want progress don't invite gavin

[@Wildcard-Jack-47]

@@afatsackofflour5519 if I’m not giving a pass then it’s Matt faults for starting a heist mission without setting up the crew first but he couldn’t have known that would make it completely inaccessible Also Gavin messes a lot of things up but this time none of it is his fault

[@afatsackofflour5519]

@@Wildcard-Jack-47 yeah Matt's an idiot this game is almost a decade old and still hasn't figured out you can't start missions then invite crew. And gavin is the worst if you are trying to accomplish anything

[@Wildcard-Jack-47]

@@afatsackofflour5519 yea usually but this time none of it is his fault so I don’t know what you’re going on about Also Matt wasn’t trying to start the mission he was trying to look at it to see what they were doing but it started when he selected it

[@gsampson97]

Nah they were the problem this episode, if they had 1 person who knew how this heist worked they wouldn't have wasted so much time

[@Mabra51]

What a great idea from Rockstar to have missions that can't be retried if you fail, but make them really buggy so you always fail them.

[@bluesail4160]

You know what Rockstar needs to add to this game. A helicopter that can land on water.

[@ClearCardinal.]

I thought there was..

[@ethanswoyer8729]

The bell sound at the end for the subscription reminder was perfectly timed with Gavin taking the easy way out 😂😂

[@panama4819]

Big props to the editors for adding the pilot voice effects to michael at 48:55 . When they landed the plane I was in tears laughing! XD

[@Shadow-Wolf-]

48:02 - Michael's Awesome Landing! (and the Missing Golden Wing!) From the moment I saw this, and knew Michael was going to Pilot... I knew something was going to happen! I am so glad I was right! (lol) He needs to fly the crew more often.

[@Call555JackChop]

8:20 in Let’s Play Monopoly Part 1 is when Gav yells Cedders and that video is almost 8 years old

[@Darktempler424]

Honestly probably my favorite of the heists series! This whole heist is perfection with these 4 lol

[@stormman33]

I feel like Ceddars was yelled during a State of Decay full play Michael did and Gavin joined. If I remember correctly they were rather drunk and scousers were mentioned as well

[@termentir7257]

I think it was that video! I just watched it a few weeks back and yes they were both incredibly drunk, as much if not more than Geoff in one of the 3D Ultra Minigolf videos.

[@silverthespacefox]

37:25 its really satisfying to watch Jeremy fall down the stairs

[@bradythomas761]

We finally get the story of Cedders! after so long we finally have it also for Jeremy it happened in the first monopoly let’s play with ray gavin gets holiday funds card

[@dylangasche3480]

Oh my God Jeremy's "aim for the bushes" moment at 18:45 had me rolling🤣🤣 Jeremy looking over the water: "THERE A SUB IN HERE!" *Leaps off railing *Faceplants into concrete

[@kabi6096]

Well it wouldn't be a GTA let's play if it didn't start at night and them fucking around for about 10 minutes Edit: It wasn't just 10 minuets •~•

[@s3dchr]

You can't blame it on them, it's clearly the game's fault. Besides, do you not have fun watching them fuck around?

[@kabi6096]

@@s3dchr like I said it wouldn't be GTA without their shenanigans, and I never said anything about not liking it (well my comment does sound kinda mean and sarcastic) but I watch them not solely on the gameplay anyway since they are let's play/Achievement Hunter where just watching them is content as it is.

[@foryx8909]

Cedders content starts at 40:55

[@yungkidnf]

43:11 Gav's garage tour if anyone was interested, I can say I've waited YEARS for it.

[@PJ34437]

They should use the avenger and auto pilot it above the sea, and then they should dive off the top and see if matt can hit them with the big sub

[@GoblinmasterYT]

Can't wait for Spike Seagul to dig the cedders clip

[@dotkomist]

I haven't played GTA in a hot minute but this game looks so broken now

[@MrCrunchytime]

@@AlexParry95 I don't know, they physically can't complete Doomsday Mastermind because their progress keeps resetting.

[@kaymarx9677]

Now?

[@potatoCris]

now? when it wasn't broken? lol

[@gsampson97]

I think they were just in a bad lobby, I've had nowhere near this many problems, as others have said the different times of the day and snow probably shows it's a problem

[@scottakasprite]

@@gsampson97 Is there really a good lobby?? I've played with friends, solo, and never seem to be without R* screwups

[@blazemontoya6500]

i cant believe after all these years this game is still this god damn broken.

[@V3_Flash]

There's good luck, there's bad luck.... and then there's Bragg Luck

[@fauxfawks9645]

Good to see that for how old GTA 5 is and all the dlc, there still hasn't been a patch to fix it being broken.

[@InfinitePain_VODs]

That "horn" they're talking about is literally ambient music. They've been playing this game for this long as just now hear that? That's incredible

[@termentir7257]

This also has the same person who played Minecraft almost everyday and it took him over two years to learn the most basic of crafting. But that’s why we love AH!

[@drskelebone]

@17:50 This is the point where I spit all my drink out of my mouth because I was laughing at Jeremy's "all right!"

[@sharksfan2041]

Jeremy's swan dive off the wedge truck was phenomenal 😂😂

[@winksandblinks]

i love this video so damn much, it's just the four of them having fun and being silly and that is the type of content i enjoy from AH

[@knight838_]

Didnt they talk about Cedric Free in the last heist video? Its even on the Gavin Free wiki Correction its Cedric Dillman and part 2 of the heist

[@dragon_storm_4830]

I was going to say, didn't they explain that in one of the heist setup videos?

[@fettacheeze]

They did kind of

[@Luppo_01]

I swear I've definitely heard the story before and it was on something recent maybe even a stream.

[@Foehammer17]

They did talk about it in the previous heist video, but the disbelief from Micheal regarding not having told the story before comes from them not having said it in any other video before the heist one. And I am like 90% sure that they've never told the story before about "Cedders", unless it was in some podcast that I havent watched lol

[@Oldmanplum]

Yeah Jeremy even says they did but I think Michael misunderstood him. Jeremy was saying that before the last video he had never heard the story