What is the Gospel of Judas?

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Asgeirsson, Jon (2005). "Thomasine Traditions in Antiquity The Social and Cultural World of the Gospel of Thomas". Brill.
Brakke, David (2012). "Gnostics: Myth, Ritual, and Diversity in Early Christianity". Harvard University Press.
Carlson, Stephen C. (2014). "Origen's use of the Gospel of Thomas". Uppsala University.
King, Karen (2003). "What is Gnosticism?". Harvard University Press.
Van den Broek, Roelof (2013). "Gnostic Religion in Antiquity". Cambridge University Press.
Meyer, Marvin (ed.) (2009). "The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of Sacred Gnostic Texts Complete in One Volume ". HarperOne.
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#gospelofjudas #gnosticism #christianity

[@abyssimus]

"Unlike the dry climate of Egypt, Long Island is not that" -- that's borderline Douglas Adams worthy writing there.

[@johncook802]

Have also been reminded of Douglas here, with all the differing sects. Douglas Adams summed them all up when saying, 2000years after a man was nailed to a tree, for saying would it not be better if we were a kind to eachother.

[@lizb7271]

Early Christianity is so fascinating. It is so easy to presuppose that the Christianities and Bibles which exist today were inevitable but so many people had radically different ideas about Christianity and Jesus.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

There's a natural winnowing process, you know? Some beliefs tend to be more compatible with whatever society they're in, whereas others are more fringe. Over time the fringe beliefs tend to fade, whereas the more compatible ones tend to kind of combine and conform. Evolution, basically.

[@georgew2014]

@@mahatmarandy5977 I'd say it was less about evolution and more about what the rulers and church leaders at any given time decided was "in" or "out." The Gnostics were critical of proto-Orthodox teachings; and by extension, critical of the leaders and power structure associated with those teachings. From a basic political standpoint, it makes sense that proto-Orthodox leaders would label Gnostics as heretical. People did hold deep beliefs. But we should not ignore the power games played in the upper echelons of any number of faiths.

[@SammyJ..]

@@mahatmarandy5977 Not simply evolution, but the activity of the Holy Spirit whom Christ promised would lead the Church into all truth.

[@Discipleofyeshuahamaschiach]

The contradictions is all we need to know what’s false. Anything Jesus preached in the scriptures we have is enough to say that we know Him.

[@FlyingAlfredoSaucer]

@@georgew2014 the Proto-Orthodox was always the majority view, other than for a short decade or so when Arianism was larger, and it seems Proto-Orthodoxy is the most true to the teachings of the historical Apostles and Jesus, so, it makes sense that it won out.

[@Zulu-Lemon]

Based on paintings Judas definitely had some personal space boundary issues

[@paulsteele8079]

😅

[@createwithme5458]

😂 😂

[@astanaKazakhstan22]

lolololololol

[@traildoggy]

He's the ultimate wingman. "Dude, I need your help with something... can you take one for the team?"

[@SamSam-vx7cs]

Jesus didn't need Judas for his Passion. The Jewish authorities still hated and wanted to kill him.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

@@SamSam-vx7cs Agreed. But it was important for it to happen at Passover, and Judas may have been a way of ensuring it happened when it needed to.

[@87krull]

“Promise me Ned!”

[@NosmoKing001]

This alternate view of Jesus, Judas and the Apostles makes my head spin thinking about it from the perspective of politics, and the fact that the winners get to write the history. This video is fascinating.

[@chasjacks9378]

The Jews killed Jesus and the bible and new testament are all written by Jews. Now you see why many books have been taken out. Just ask Enoch the man who walked with God.

[@mbell985]

There were no winners (in a humanistic context)…almost all of the disciples and apostles were killed for their beliefs

[@mikeroman5208]

Imagine if two thousand years from now some historians find the script to "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" and all excitedly start to proclaim to the world that this is an alternate view of Lincoln that the "mainstream" wanted to hide. After all, it was written only 147 years after Lincoln's death, so it must be true, right?

[@jemiahthesaiyanproductions3207]

@@mikeroman5208 great analogy that u are using

[@MrSirFluffy]

​@@mikeroman5208This is what I tell people who believe the Book of Enoch should be canonical. The Book of Enoch could very likely be a fanfic of sorts. As it was not written in the same times as the Old Testament nor the new testament. Could very well just be a fanfiction of the time period using the names/characters of Biblical origins. I imagine a lot of people wrote stories about the things that were culturally popular at the time. The Bible was the commonly known thing, it was their pop culture.

[@M0U53B41T]

old documents degrading makes me so mad. They just shouldn't be in private hands imo. So much has been lost already! At any rate, once again thanks for a lovely overview once again! your videos are always amazing and interesting to me

[@simonmagus2199]

same here. extremely frustrating that it was caused by human ignorance and greed. I'm not sure how much was lost, but it's a travesty either way. I feel the same way about the library of alexandria, and other instances of people intentionally burning texts because they were regarded as "heretical."

[@not_emerald]

Yeah because we all know government really cares about these things, right

[@Praise___YaH]

HERE is Our Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins ** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER ** - Ancient Semitic Cuniform of Moshe (Moses) - Isa Scroll (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.

[@meesalikeu]

@@Praise___YaH yah we know bro, but that is off topic

[@sarah07290]

@Nicholas Time *property is theft

[@SeekersofUnity]

What a superb presentation. Absolutely delightful to learn from you Filip. Thank you for all the wonderful work you put into this ❤

[@ScribblesOfOwls]

As a librarian, one with a deep interest in archives, the improper storage of the manuscript breaks my heart.

[@desidark1243]

As a long time watcher (from when you were at a few hundred!), I want to say that I appreciate the video interludes and production quality upgrades you’re making slowly but surely 😊

[@DysfunctionallyControlled]

In this version, Judas is basically the Severus Snape to Jesus' Dumbledore.

[@eimere]

I literally did a Harry Potter themed school-work out of that some years ago.

[@DysfunctionallyControlled]

@@eimere Awesome!

[@TheFourthPhilosopher]

I am not a religious scholar, however I do self-educate and I do so with your videos as a spring board into higher levels of religious knowledge. Thank you for the energy and time that you put into these videos, they are absolutely fascinating and beneficial for a person like me.

[@Praise___YaH]

HERE is Our Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins ** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER ** - Ancient Semitic Cuniform of Moshe (Moses) - Isa Scroll (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.

[@davidlafleche1142]

You're not going to learn anything from fake nonsense like the so-called "Gospel of Judas."

[@CosmicGardener]

I think that really cool! My major isn't in any particular thing but I studied alot of philosophy, anthropology, and history. And I really love these videos. It's such a cool way to peer into the mindset of the people that created it or their general environment at the time. I feel like I see amazing comments like yours under these videos and they're always swamped with incoherent ramblings.

[@KxngTsuGamingOGkxng]

@@Praise___YaH hkkulkkkkk Iiii K Juuku uuu

[@James-ll3jb]

He's actually accurate more than half the time. He's wrong about GThomas not being gnostic. All one needs to do is read it.

[@dillonbutler2004]

I have been waiting for this for some time. I checked my subscriptions feed earlier today in hopes of seeing this content. I am so pleased to thank you for this episode.

[@Praise___YaH]

HERE is Our Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins ** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER ** - Ancient Semitic Cuniform of Moshe (Moses) - Isa Scroll (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.

[@aaronbatitis2650]

@@Praise___YaH dude what is with u? R u a preacher or something? This vid isnt praising Judas so stop mumbling whatever verse ur trying to say here cuz what ur sayin doesnt make no sense at all, if u want to share ur verse, go to the chapel or church or whatsoever Ur trolling everyone here with ur bible verse

[@AbiSaysThings]

The existence of wealthy collectors is so frustrating. What's the point of hoarding a bunch of stuff when you don't even know what it is?

[@Iron-Waffle]

Reminds me of "Tomb Raider" where wealthy powerful men fund expeditions to find ancient knowledge, only to hide it or use it for their own gain

[@Facerip]

Early christiantiy/gnosticism is my favorite video topic of yours! Thanks!

[@MrMinecraftMan990]

I found a very old rebound copy of a prominent abolitionist novel once, and my first instinct was to preserve it in a large cigar box in an always dry room in my house until I could get it somewhere that will better preserve it. How someone found a literal lost gospel-RECOGNIZED ITS SIGNIFICANCE as he tried selling it for millions after acquisition-and put it in a random safety deposit box blows my mind.

[@SherKhan-ig1gs]

Watched your third Vlog, which I find informative & well researched as well as without biases: Good Job 👍

[@rmglabog]

Love this. More lectures from you this 2023.

[@ShabanaKhaanOfficial]

Thanks Philip, thanks for putting together another Gem of knowledge. Great work

[@ObjectiveEthics]

Agreed 👍

[@rodrigoiturrieta6476]

What a fascinating channel! I'm so glad I found it. Greetings from South America 🇨🇱🇨🇱

[@simonmagus2199]

I can't tell you how absolutely maddening it is that it was kept in a safety deposit box in new york, a place that has a significantly higher average humidity than that of egypt, and because of that, some of it was damaged and forever lost. just seems like it was done out of ignorance or negligence. I read it recently, and it's one of the most fascinating gnostic texts (in my opinion); it really is a pity, could have been avoided.

[@Praise___YaH]

HERE is Our Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins ** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER ** - Ancient Semitic Cuniform of Moshe (Moses) - Isa Scroll (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.

[@simonmagus2199]

@@Praise___YaH there is no god but Barbelo

[@wordawakeningny]

Great teaching Professor Holm.

[@CosmicGardener]

I went to a catholic private school for 5 years and this reminds me of our stranger danger alert. When we practiced it or whatever. If there was a stranger in the building, the front desk would say over the PA system "we would like to take a moment to say a prayer to Saint Judas" and I always thought it was a bit clever and a little funny. Idk

[@CosmicGardener]

@@alteredbeast7145 that's cool! Not really related to me remembering something I found fun/funny. I have never really believed in anything, if you care. I just try to enjoy life. That's more important to me.

[@CosmicGardener]

The announcement is meant as a joke bc judas isn't a Saint :/ Thought I mentioned that but ig I didn't

[@CosmicGardener]

@@scottpowell4267 it's was intentionally judas

[@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9]

Be careful in the Catholic Church. And from the pope. The saints are in the grave and will be resurrected in the second coming of Jesus

[@feikodelavieter7515]

It's nice that the front desk is warning the priests they need to stop f4cking the choir boy.

[@jonnylawless6797]

Been waiting on you to do this one, Filip.

[@lukefulton1766]

You're voice is so soothing 😌 ez learning , thank you 🙏

[@QualeQualeson]

Fascinating. Whether by complexity and/or humanity's deceptive disposition, throughout my life I've experienced that a lot of concepts are actually very different than what's generally presumed. I chew on a great many things, but I never swallow.

[@yum8666]

What a raw ass line

[@QualeQualeson]

@@yum8666 I had long since forgotten I made this comment. Yeah, it kind of was 😄 Thanks.

[@gabbyn.3049]

​@@yum8666it is indeed, a raw ass line.

[@almosrogacs8956]

I always love a video in connection to gnosticism

[@linalawson6612]

Thank you, this is really fascinating, just found your channel!

[@kirillzapple]

Thank you Thomas, I downloaded wondrium. I was always looking for a reasors like this

[@samwill7259]

At this point I'm gonna ring a bell every time a religious channel like this says "Gnostic BUT..." because it's one of those things that's always coming up

[@Praise___YaH]

HERE is Our Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins ** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER ** - Ancient Semitic Cuniform of Moshe (Moses) - Isa Scroll (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.

[@lakeshore2698]

​@@Praise___YaH you're funny

[@malikairadmanovick1248]

Tantalizing and provocative. Curiosity and wonderment dancing in tandem to the songs of possibilities! Thank you for this.

[@ianrundle5862]

I really enjoy your presentations.

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thanks so much for posting

[@daryanabdullah3898]

Much like every one else, you've been a great source of knowledge and inspiration. I wandered if you'd be able to do a video on the book of Enoch?

[@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9]

The book of Enoch contradicts the bible, please don't read it

[@anticosmicsatanism]

​@@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9 the book of Enoch should have been part of the bible but it was removed. I know another cultures christianity includes it. It speaks of the watchers. You shouldn't exclude books that are written around the same period as there is much to learn from them as there is in the king james version. Don't be close minded.

[@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9]

@@anticosmicsatanism The book of Enoch contradicts the bible. That's why it isn't in it.

[@cococonuts94]

Enoch & Utnapishtim need to start a glam metal band. Or one needs to name themselves after them.

[@neoquest2012]

@@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9The book of Enoch was written in the 2nd century- The Bible was compiled and edited in the 10th century. You have been conditioned to be scared of the Truth, for with it in your heart, they have no control of Gods creations abilties to find he exists within, always and forever. We were put here to Live in free will, casting off religious branding will free you Soul. Follow the Light of Love.

[@jmiller1918]

Excellent video. Great choice and use of visuals!

[@DioShiver]

I really love those gnostic topics, it is so interesting to see how diverse Christianity actually is!

[@Praise___YaH]

HERE is Our Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins ** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER ** - Ancient Semitic Cuniform of Moshe (Moses) - Isa Scroll (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.

[@insanoibro6331]

Gnosticism is Satanic

[@cheri238]

One has to admire all your lectures, as I know I do. Thank you always for your interests and intelligence. Happy Holidays ☃️ 🎄Reading is a passion of mine also.

[@faizafaiza6524]

Christmas is a paga* tradition

[@cheri238]

@@faizafaiza6524 There is a Santa Claus, I know that is true. Have you written a letter to him yet? Lol☃️🎄 Santa 🎅 🧑‍🎄 🤣

[@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9]

​@@faizafaiza6524 Christianity comes from the teachings of Jesus. And Jesus is God and the Son of God

[@faizafaiza6524]

@@cheri238 JESUS CONFESSED IN BIBLE THAT HE IS NOT GOD *******. 1- God Doesn’t Change His Nature (Malachi 3:6) 2- GOD Almighty is Greater than Jesus. (John 14:28 ) 3- No one is "Good" including Jesus. Only GOD is" Good" (Luke 18:19) 4- Jesus said he doesn't know when the Hour will come. Only GOD Knows. (Mark 13:32) 5- Jesus said that" OUR God is One GOD " (Mark 12:29 ) 6- Jesus also said "My GOD and your GOD" (John 20:17) 7- Jesus bowed his face down to the ground to GOD Almighty. (Matthew 26:39) 8- Jesus was tempted by satan for 40 days(Mat1:4), while GOD Almighty can not be tempted (Jacob 1:13) 9- Jesus said he is a man (John 8:40) 10- God is neither a man nor a son of a man (Numbers 23:19) 11- No one can see god (1 John 4:20) but people saw Jesus 12- God is the living and everlasting (Habakkuk 1:12) 13- Jesus always confessed he is just a prophet sent by god (Matthew 21:10-11) 14- God Declare Himself to be God, Jesus didn't (Ezekiel 20:20) 15- Jesus told his real mission was to preach not sacrifice (Mark 1:38) 16- Jesus desired Mercy not Sacrifice (Matthew 9:13) Jesus refered himseld as 17- Servant: Matthew 10:24, 24:45, 12:18 John 13:16 18- Prophet: Matthew 8:20 13:16,21:11, Mark 6:15, 6;4, 9;37, Luke 7:16, 9:8, 9:19, John 13:17, 7:16, 6:14, 7:40 19- Son of Man: Matthew 5:9, 17:22, 8:20, 18:11, 26:2, Luke 9:22, John 5:27 20- Slave: John 13:16, Matthew 10:24 21- Student: Matthew 10:24 22- Father is Grater than Jesus (John 14:28) How can someone can be greater than God? 23- Jesus was taught by the Father (John 8:28) 24- Jesus can do nothing by himself (John 5:19, John 5:30) 25- Jesus does not even has his own doctrine (John 7:16) 26- Jesus ascend to his God (John 20:17) 27- According to Christian Jesus died as recorded in Matthew 27:27-56 but Bible says that God is infinite Pslam 102:27-27 28- Jesus needed to Pray, Eat, Drink and Was Helped by Woman, as stated in Luke 8:1-3 but God in Bible is self-sufficient Psalm 50:12 29- The God remain the same in nature (Hebrews 1:12) 30- Jesus is the same human today, yesterday and forever (Hebrew 13:8) 31- Jesus could not save anyone as he was even not able to save himself (Hebrews 5:1-8) 32- Jesus said he was send to lost sheep of Israel (Matthew 15:24)

[@faizafaiza6524]

@@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9 All prophets were called sons of God in bible 👉Adam, who was the son of God.’ (Luke 3:38) 👉Jacob is God’s son and firstborn: ‘Israel is my son, even my firstborn.’ (Exodus 4:22) 👉🏻Solomon: ‘I will be his father, and he shall be my son.’ (2 Samuel 7:13-14) 👉🏻Ephraim: ‘for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.’ (Jeremiah 31:9) 👉🏻is God’s firstborn, common people are called the sons of God: ‘Ye are the children of the Lord your God’ (Deuteronomy 14:1) WHO IS THE FIRST SON OF GOD? 👉🏻Genesis 41:51 says MENASSEH is the FIRST son of God! 👉🏻Exodus 4:22 says ISRAEL is the FIRST son of God! 👉🏻Psalms 89:27 says DAVID is the FIRST son of God! 👉🏻Jeremiah 31:9 says EPHRAIM is the FIRST son of God! This clearly shows son means pious persons not literally meant as Christians believe

[@djnikx1]

Excellent presentation! Can you explain meaning of Barbelo bit more.

[@pipersolanas3322]

I love episodes on Sethians and Gnosticism!!

[@rayharris9160]

I really like your channel, I have searched through all your videos and have found no videos that talks about the old ones,

[@caincotterill5493]

Brilliant, I’m not religious at all, but am very interested in it. This has changed my day🇬🇧👊🏼

[@MarvelousSeven]

Go to church. It will change your eternity.

[@you457wx7]

@@MarvelousSeven The church is the people who murdered Christ, just read the words of Jesus.

[@gabbyn.3049]

​@@MarvelousSevenI do not believe in Church, I believe in Jesus.

[@ahmadchamseddine6891]

My friend met with a Alawites Sheikh and asked him about the Abdul Rahman ben Muljam (the Imam Ali disciple who assassinated him). The latter said: "They were in a very close meeting and Imam Ali asked "who would carry the weight of my death" then Abdul Rahman raised and volunteered. Imam Ali responded "You will carry the curse of the A'lamin"

[@Praise___YaH]

HERE is Our Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins ** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER ** - Ancient Semitic Cuniform of Moshe (Moses) - Isa Scroll (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.

[@tomtemple69]

@@Praise___YaH ok what is your point?

[@Praise___YaH]

@@tomtemple69 There is NO SUCH THING as a jesus

[@Praise___YaH]

@@tomtemple69 Wanna go back and read what I shared now?

[@tomtemple69]

@@Praise___YaHyeah, there is only THE Jesus Christ and He is God

[@user-ev6br5hs6n]

I enjoy your message 😀☺️ I think this is so interesting to hear from you.

[@livyintheskywithdragons]

Thanks!! This is SO FASCINATING!!!!!!!!!!!

[@juskelly5133]

The Truth is inside me the one and only Truth ❤❤❤❤

[@skysthelimit7579]

This hits hard.

[@3timesG.]

thank you 🙌🏽🔥

[@sharktiff1]

Very very fascinating video, love it.

[@MrLugine]

Love this

[@TheGuiltsOfUs]

The male/female pairs of the aeons were somewhat interesting, taken from the surrounding folk myths I imagine.

[@Ahrimanh86]

Good work Fil

[@Fustercluck06]

More videos on the gnostic gospel please! Any book recommendations would be cool too, very hard topic to research

[@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9]

The Bible is Inspired by God. Not the book of Judas

[@thegreatchipman]

@@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9 ok but theyre asking for more academic discussions on books related to those in the bible, not what the bible was inspired by.

[@douglasking6160]

Like your stuff.

[@thegovernmentshill]

*CORRECTION* around 00:15 into the video, when it is claimed that these non-canonical books “did NOT make it into the Bible” it should actually have said *many were in fact IN THE BIBLE, then REMOVED for various reasons* which is a very different thing.

[@attilaseyfullah8522]

"The Bible" was constructed by the Roman Catholic-Orthodox Church (they were together back then). It was like picking choice poems for a poetry book. There wasn't a whole to begin with except for the Tanah(Hebrew Bible)

[@ferencivanics9980]

Thank you!

[@helenbostock2350]

Thanks you guys

[@ahmedirfansamad]

Please make a video on the Gospel of Barnabas and the debate between Barnabas and Paul.

[@attilaseyfullah8522]

Barnabas Gospel is fabricated. Muslims also know this today. Although it is still taught as authentic by some people.

[@catlinboy]

So according to this text Judas is actually Snape. Like, on the surface the bad guy helping with or doing the murder of an important figure, but it turns out that the important figure planned it all along and it is only because of SnapeJudas' true faith and loyalty that they did the bad thing and took on all the hatred for it.

[@aberami6090]

Can you do a video on Aquinas? Thank you again so much for your diligence Filip ,n,

[@WilliamNewberry]

These writings are so important as is the search for the grail Godfrey de Bouillon

[@Aghora_Sampradaya]

Thank you for your wonderful efforts and great channel. Have you considered to talk about the missing years of Jesus and the legendary stories of him visiting India, and also said to have settled down in kashmir after the crucifixion?

[@thedukeofswellington1827]

Like the plot of the last temptation of christ. I always thought that it was strange how judas was vilified for doing exactly what had to be done

[@iesureloaded6139]

P.S. Thank you for the links.

[@davidnagy1046]

great video and fascinating topic! what is that painting at 18:44?

[@limbobilbo8743]

I love learning about gnostic thought and belief. I think its because I love the SMT games which are steeped in gnosticism. its such an interesting well to draw from when it comes to writing as well.

[@spudsbuchlaw]

Well, I wouldnt say _Steeped_ they have some Gnosticism in them

[@hizbee5524]

I'd love knowing more about Gospel of barnabas. Please make a video about that

[@hannahpocock4152]

It's a 15th century fraud written during the Ottoman reign.

[@ohamatchhams]

@@hannahpocock4152 More precisely to be 16th Century fabricated crypto-texts authored in Spain by a possible Morisco group It has mentions of goods discovered in Americas, which almost all of humanity at the time of historical Jesus haven't even known of the American continent and it's Islands

[@attilaseyfullah8522]

Even Muslims accept that it was fabricated around 15-17 hundred years after Isa Aleyhisselam.

[@hizbee5524]

@@attilaseyfullah8522 what was fabricated?? Whole bible or just a specific version?

[@attilaseyfullah8522]

@@hizbee5524 the "Barnabas Gospel" version

[@lolitaboykins4834]

Beautiful presentation, basics on TRUTH 🤔🤔 . May the peace of Our FATHER BE WITH YOU 🙏 🙏. Forbidden knowledge .

[@exoplanet11]

The last part of the film "Last Temptation of Christ" (1988) by Scorsese portrays Judas somewhat like the Gnostic depiction in the Gospel of Judas. I had assumed that this depiction came from Kazantzakis, author of the book. But now I am wondering if it came from Scorsese's reading of the (then rather newly re-discovered) Gospel of Judas.

[@angelawossname]

In 1988 it had been discovered, but nobody knew it was the gospel of Judas, and it had not been translated yet.

[@shayooooo]

I'm a master's student at the University of Hamburg & I'm going to use this whenever anyone asks me why I study manuscript cultures. The existence of ancient texts are capable of collapsing the core of an entire religion.

[@Principles_of_Psychology]

To the contrary: This manuscript enriches the Christian religion by adding an additional approach that differs from the traditional orthodoxy.

[@mat7083]

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[@shayooooo]

@@Principles_of_Psychology True. Evidently it presents a discourse that completely carves out a different path from the Christian tradition. However, one would argue that the sanctity with which the crucifixion event is appreciated by Christian adherents is much revered. To alter any aspect of its story telling, especially in a way that deviates away from the normative standard nominated by the church, and to further allude that Christ himself encouraged this thought process, complicates the crucifixion event in a disruptive way.

[@TheGuiltsOfUs]

Why would it? It has no authority.

[@shayooooo]

@@TheGuiltsOfUs is authority ever really needed to cause disruption or chaos?

[@elodiesalgado4739]

Thanks!

[@3rd_ear]

seems the canonical book of revelation also could be ''gnostic'', at least regarding 2-2 , 2-9 , 3-12 and the overall complex visionary nature of the text.

[@SubjectiveFunny]

I wonder if any of our stories will last thousands of years from now. If nothing else, this is a very impressive feat.

[@Max-zu8xj]

We've got the internet. Now practically everything might last ages

[@otonworldproductions]

The Bible is already like 2-4 thousand years old. I’m sure it’s gonna last 😂

[@FraterRC]

Amazing that Kazantzakis' Last Temptation anticipates the idea of Judas being asked by Christ to play the role of betrayer.

[@nefnef7474bepis]

Would love to see a deep dive video from you on historical ties to and context surrounding the creation of the Toledot Yeshu

[@camilleespinas2898]

So interesting .. it has changed my thought patterns a screw 25:48 !

[@elsasalah]

Can you do a video on Noah's ark or the story of Nuh (AS) being similar in so many cultures around the world as its really interesting that people from different geographical locations have similar legends around a great flood with a prominent figure in the center. Also amazing channel !!

[@dominikivankovic63]

Interesting topic. What is your reasoning behind it? I would say myth originated in one place and was gradually spread along the old World. It has more sense to me than the notion that all of these myths are referencing the same world-wide flood. I think this myth originated somewhere in the middle east which was a center of domestication and the birth of agriculture. Agriculture was spread through migration from Middle east to many parts of the Old World, and it's not unimaginable that those people/migrants who were bringing the knowledge of farming and agriculture to the rest of the Old World brought these myths and stories with them, which through the next few millenia became for every culture their own distinct flood myth. Problem regarding the flood myths in the New World is that we cannot go back in time and ask native people what is the exact story, we only have stories which were filtered through and written down by the 15th century spanish monks, who firmly believed in the story about the Noah's ark to be truth. That easily could have resulted, and most probably it did, in those monks trying to connect some stories about the floods in the New World with Noah's ark, thus making those stories from the New World seem much more simmilar to the story of Noah's ark than it probably actually was, maybe they were not even remotely simmilar. (mind you that in 15th century there was no spanish-native american dictionary, so much of the actual stories from the New World were highly reinterpretated while being written down and we will never know what the actual story was like) These are not mine ideas, I heard it from several archeologists and thus far it's the explanation for the world-wide spread of the flood myth which for me makes the most sense. Far from saying it's the actual truth, no one can know that, but that's what makes it a interesting topic for discussion.

[@asrarahmed5044]

@@dominikivankovic63 or it was an actual event that took place, and with time became myth with people adding to the story

[@dominikivankovic63]

@@asrarahmed5044 Yes I agree with that, sorry for not emphasizing it in previous comment. I believe there was possibly a flood in the place, or close to, where myth originated, not that it was a worldwide flood.

[@asrarahmed5044]

@dominikivankovic63 In islam there's no reference to it being a worldwide flood. It makes more sense to me the flood took place in a specific place as well. Allah knows best. But I do find it amazing how the oldest written text we have (epic of gilgamesh) talks about the flood and a prominent figure who built an Ark and put all the animals in pairs on it. It resembles the story of Noah/Nuh (PBUH) so closely, it actually gave me goosebumps

[@coreylouviere4466]

The area the ancient israelites/Judaens lived, known today as levant, back then it was called, Canaan. It was the connection point between africa, europe, and asia all the trade routes go through Canaan. (Hence way Egypt and the Hittites were fighting over that area.) This means goods, people, and ideas came through there all the time. Its less about a real world wide flood, but the melding of different peoples. Some of tells in the old testament were most likely influence by these tales and incorperated them and slightly change them to fit in. People of the bronze and iron age record history different, adding embellishments and literary devices (such as characters) to make theological points. The accuracy of the account mattered little, what did matter was what were they trying to tell you.

[@eprd313]

I was 12 years old when I first thought: if Judas hadn't existed there would have been no crucifixion therefore no salvation. If it was prophesied to happen, someone was already doomed to have to play that role since before they existed so sending them to hell would be unfair. It was the beginning of an endless questioning that led me to lose all faith.

[@adrian4565]

If Judas wouldn’t have done it someone else would have. Plenty of ppl would trade a man for money.

[@adrian4565]

It was foretold that people would get so evil that they would trade a sinless for money.

[@e.1165]

The Bible is actually very clear that Judas’s betrayal is ordained by God. It is spoken of in the Psalms, for example. The trouble with popular evangelical Christianity today is that it emphasizes the freedom of will. The Bible does not, nor has historic Christianity. You are quite right to point out that Judas’s betrayal, if ordained by God, is unfair according to a theological system that emphasizes choice (as popular Arminian evangelicalism and Roman Catholicism). It’s plainly inconsistent. However, many evangelical Christians, if they have such questions, are never given answers, and they are discouraged from asking them. If your upbringing is like mine was (fundamentalist, Pentecostal), then you were told “Just believe.” But belief without knowledge is nonsensical. Faith must be grounded in something real, or else it is stupid fantasy. I found answers to my questions in the Westminster Standards. My parents and siblings think I’m a heretic, probably, but by God’s grace I have been brought to faith built on knowledge, on truth, and not on mere feeling or wishful thinking.

[@Ricky_Spanishh]

People literally sell people for money in 2023....but a guy selling out his friend 2k years ago is shocking to you? Stay questioning then and hopefully God will eventually answer you.

[@joemac84]

Existing outside time and space and matter means that was is past and future are all happening in an eternal now. Things are known but they are still choice. These concepts are difficult to understand on this dimension but free agency is still real

[@jimboeernisse]

Though my career is in the private sector, I continue with some independent scholarly work in the field of Library and Information Science, with a specialty in Misinformation and Disinformation. And I find this fascinating from that perspective. It has several hallmarks and patterns of misinformation; its reminiscent of selective sharing; hyped has secretive, hidden knowledge within its own narrative; etc. Wild hypothesis here, It almost seems like part of a disinformation campaign when considering it alongside the Canon.

[@litteralfitness6113]

You have an excellent channel

[@kingkyooju]

I have the book that was released about 10 years ago and it tells you some interesting details of what the church does not want you to know.

[@nomanejane5766]

What's the name of the book?

[@tsnstonepilot5375]

@@malcmitchell9738 I don’t necessary know that I believe this gospel but within the context of the narrative it makes sense that Judas would commit suicide even if the gospel was true. It’s no different than there being a plan to martyr Jesus and scorn Judas. If scorning Judas is part of the plan, then having him commit suicide reinforces the appearance of guilt which makes his actions even more scornful and implies he was acting out of betrayal rather than loyalty.

[@CuzmicTarot]

Of course. The read why They had Yo present god and reword The character of god as a man who did atrocious work but with a twist of “because of Live You”. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@user-ht1vg5we2p]

the Gospel of Judas sounds like one of those fan theories that the villain was actually in the right

[@robdela3632]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it here but interestingly the flight of the feathered serpent by Armando Cosani came out before the discovery of the gospel of Judas. It has three parts, the first is an easy read, very inspirational and easy to understand for the most part. Second book is full of symbolism that can easily go over the head but the third book is an account very similar to the gospel of Judas only it was released years earlier than the gospel of Judas discovery 🤯

[@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9]

The Gospel of Judas could have been made in the 2nd Century. However, that doesn't mean it should be in the Bible. Because the Bible doesn't align with Judas

[@ancientdarkness3102]

How is this not talked about? It definetly changes everything we know about god

[@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9]

Peace be with you Friend ❤️ The Book of Judas is a heresy. Do Not read it.

[@ancientdarkness3102]

@@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9 not a good reason not to read it. It makes much more sense than what you probably know

[@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9]

@@ancientdarkness3102 If you want to read it, fine. But it isn't apart of the Bible. It isn't from God

[@JamesKP17847]

@@ancientdarkness3102how does this make much more sense? In this version Judas ends up as like overseer of the entire realm of everything after the world has ended apparently, so how does that make any sense? Judas was just a man like the other apostles but this version is like something you’d read in a crazy mythology

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

Old Testament pseudepigrapha is by far the most intellectually and spiritually adroit literature in the religious literature genre. 4 Ezra, specifically, is deeply profound in ways that other books of the Bible just fall short.

[@KbB-kz9qp]

Great presentation, thank you. Fwiw, the reason non canonical books “didn’t make it into the Bible”, is that they were deemed to simply be too confusing, or they were in error somehow, or that they were altogether wrong or just were not pertinent.

[@meesalikeu]

are you really mansplaining that to filip the scholar? 😅

[@Daniel-_Godismyjudge9]

The book of Judas contradicts the bible. So be careful

[@nogodsnomasters666]

or perhaps it didn't fit the narrative?...

[@FaithWalker-tm6yo]

I am sorry, there are clearly hostile people on this thread. Your videos are very, very good. Thank you so very much.

[@JJBushfan]

This accords very closely with suspicions I've held for years about Jesus's true ministry and the role of Judas. Good to know that somebody else got there before me nearly 2,000 years ago. And I do accept that we both might be wrong.

[@lucasbakeforero426]

I am an atheist, and yet I found these stories and different perspectives mesmerizing. Great video!

[@onlyenzoYT]

Jesus is King 🙏🏽❤️‍🔥he loves you. Repent

[@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745]

​@@onlyenzoYTno

[@melissabellemare7416]

​@@onlyenzoYTeveryone has their own path to walk in life. Be careful or you might trip on your ignorance and stray from yours.

[@you457wx7]

@@melissabellemare7416 You tell him to be careful when so called Christians will never enter heaven. I have found that atheists read scripture, while Christians are content with having it read to them, and prefer being lied to about what it reads, hence the closed minds.

[@fcweddington]

​@@you457wx7You are correct. There are many Christians who don't know The Bible. However, there are also many atheists who attack The Bible with ridiculous/ naive claims.

[@douglasfur3808]

The apostles in a state of "Confusion" is probably the best description of the development of Christianity. A group of people who thought they knew what was happening but then the expected revival of the Davidic kingdom didn't show up and oust the Romans, and the messiah was killed there was a lot of explaining to do. The sequence we have received: the proto-orthodox begat the orthodox who begat the orthodox who begat the schisms that begat contemporary christianity; would most likely sound as bizarre to the early Jesus communities as this gospel sounds to us. In The Gospel According to Me Judas is more an everyman rather than a great betrayer. His sins of greed, selfishness and egoism are not unique but universal. That we identify more with the apostles, that understand the way of Jesus and that our brand of Christianity is the true path is probably as confused as the communities of Paul, Judas, Thomas or Seth.

[@Praise___YaH]

HERE is Our Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins ** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER ** - Ancient Semitic Cuniform of Moshe (Moses) - Isa Scroll (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.

[@aaronbatitis2650]

@@Praise___YaH what the hell is with u man, stop ur mumbling already, nobody cares bout what ur saying cuz this vid isnt bout ur bible verse

[@mikhaelis]

The Demiurge proposition answers all those questions about why the Abrahamic religions are so contradictory to the physical world around us.

[@evelisisdavis7242]

Thank you

[@pezcore2142]

i remember being told in the early 90s at the baptist church i attended as a child that judas likely was doing what he did at the behest of jesus to fulfil prophecy.. they were best friends, supposedly, after all. ;)

[@AdvaiticChrist]

_Seeing early Christianity from the Vedic perspective has helped me in simplifying the understanding process of the Gnostic Gospels._ _I recommend Ādvaita Vedānta, Kashmiri Shaivism, Vijñāna Vada Buddhism and Shunya Vada Buddhism. These Eastern Philosophical systems will break down the Gnostic Gospels step by step for you so that a seeker may understand the deeper meaning what Jesus has ACTUALLY taught._

[@chrissyp9003]

Interesting. Thanks for posting this.

[@TheGuiltsOfUs]

New age nonsense. You do realize if there was a historical rabbi yeshua he would have been illiterate right?

[@iesureloaded6139]

7:59 The bread and wine offering goes all the back to the Melchizedek priesthood that Jesus belonged as did Jethro. Abraham entered Salam and was greeted by Melchizedek 🥖 🍷 The word “eucharist” in Judas is a translation.

[@NickVenture1]

Obviously when a religion needs a sacrifice because of a prophecy, there needs to be a sacrificed and a sacrifyer. All actors according to a book. No sacrifyer, no sacrificed. How can there be individual guilt in such a scenario.

[@olegkirovskii2720]

Seems that I am a manuscript myself, as I also would prefer Egypt to Long Island

[@dapooch2521]

This episode should have been called: loose ends, the lamb and the scapegoat. Interesting how the only one who had claimed to know of jesus's true nature and intentions winds up going along with the scheme making him complicit in some kind of otherworldly cover-up, and taking that truth with him to the grave. Trippy stuff

[@glendap.magpulong8518]

I really thought... He was saying shoe god... Made me research more on Thomas Gospel

[@drpigglesnuudelworte5209]

It’s so interesting how they use Judas and the Apostles as a metaphor

[@satohime]

with only one copy of this ever being found, i can't bring myself to believe it was anything but some early christian scribe's bible fanfiction. humans never change, i know in my heart that 1000 years ago there were still people who saw jesus and judas kiss and went "get me my quill and inkpot i have work to do"

[@jennasyde5677]

The number of copies we have today is totally irrelevant when you have a 3rd century source mentioning it by name as a popular heresy

[@colkbassad]

The use of "generations" and "stars" is throughout the translation I read (see excerpt below) and it's difficult for me to understand what is meant. Are these literal translations? Do scholars have to do a lot of interpretation and lean on generalized words to try their best to translate the concepts, stories, and teachings the author(s) were writing, that maybe would have been clear to readers of the time? Thanks for the video, I really enjoy your content. "...you'll do more than all of them, because you'll sacrifice the human who bears me. Your horn has already been raised, your anger has been kindled, your star has ascended, and your heart has [strayed]. Truly [I say to you], your last [… and] the [… the thrones] of the realm have [been defeated], the kings have grown weak, the angelic generations have grieved, and the evil [they sowed …] is destroyed, [and] the [ruler] is wiped out. [And] then the [fruit] of the great generation of Adam will be exalted, because before heaven, earth, and the angels, that generation from the realms exists. Look, you've been told everything. Lift up your eyes and see the cloud with the light in it and the stars around it. And the star that leads the way is your star." - gospels.net/judas