How To Make A Nintendo NES Repro Box - Let's Talk Retro (Episode 10)

Would you like to be able to make your own reproduction Nintendo video game boxes for your unboxed carts? If the answers yes then this episode of Let's Talk Retro is just for you. We not only show you how to make an NES box but give you a few tips and tricks along the way.
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[@RarivMorben]

A few recommendations: 1st - Edit the images before printing to change the tiny side flap's position. As is, whenever you look at it from the front, you'll see where the box was "glued" together, and that was not the case on the original boxes. It should be on right side of the rear. 2nd - Use a blunt object to score the folds, something like a thick BIC pen (without ink). That way the radious of the "bend" will be larger, and the ink won't crack as much. 3rd - It's good practice to only score the smallest part of the top flap with the box fully assembled. Sometimes using the side flaps as guides will result in the wrong size. This is critical on SNES boxes. 4th - The little cuts on the flap, in the original boxes, are actually a tiny L. Because that's hard to replicate, I usually just cut a rectangle of 3mm x 1mm to allow the side flaps to notch in those gaps. 5th - Take it easy and have fun. Usually these boxes look great on the shelves :)

[@EntropicThinking]

Thanks for the tutorial. Just printed out some boxes on a4 110lb white cardstock at Staples. Cost 64 cents per page and turned out surprisingly well.

[@Letstalkretro]

Hay thanks for the comment I'm glad it worked out well. It makes a nice change hearing a positive comment. Keep it retro.

[@commentbars2648]

Is the staples self serve? I was just wondering if they would allow me to print this

[@lazerbeam3]

Hey I’m new to the scene but do you remember the size of the paper you used? Was it just a standard 8.5x11

[@anderson_maker]

Where can I find the files for the game boxes??

[@natoman]

If you take a fine point sharpie, you can run it along the edges to hide where the paper has been scored. This is papercrafting pro tip for making models look less papery.

[@Letstalkretro]

Nice tip.

[@27GX76R]

I use a nail clipper to get the rounded ends. You'll love the results. Looks like it's been die cut

[@sonicclang]

I recently made my first NES game boxes and took it one step further. I figured out how to make the inner tray that the cartridge sits in so it doesn't just flop around inside the box. I couldn't find any templates for that so I just had to figure it out on my own.

[@Letstalkretro]

Good work fella. I’ve seen some people use polystyrene strips to fill the space in the box. I wonder why Nintendo went for a much bigger box than needed but they did the same with SNES and gameboy and n64. Yet anything else now would have just been wired. Thanks for watching.

[@kurisu3000]

Nice dude, you got a tutorial for that? Much appreciate it.

[@backdoorwolf666]

@@Letstalkretro It looked better on the shelf.

[@maximodejesus5001]

what type of paper did you use to print and make the design of the box

[@paulb4uk]

This is superb ideal for all the loose carts with no box at all .

[@samacvuk]

Thanks dude, my original FFVI box just gave up, I was sad, now happy.

[@dreamsofaudio]

Only thing is. The black toner/ink will crack on the folds. You'll see the white of the card stock used. On practically every folded corner edge. Other than that looks good

[@confederatefan]

I've just done my first one since watching your video yesterday, it looks so cool. I had battletoads, mario/duck hunt and marble madness without boxes so got them printed onto card and they look awesome

[@ooshiemaniac5188]

Love the game chasers shirt 🤘

[@CADinblack]

I followed this tutorial and it worked perfectly. Thanks so much :)

[@Letstalkretro]

Hay thanks for watching.

[@TheKiddhazel]

Tried bringing my files to several print shops. Wouldn't let me print each time because of copyrighted images. So annoying

[@anderson_maker]

Where can I find the files for the game boxes??

[@taptaptuguen3002]

Hi, nice work! But a have a question. How can I say the box dimensions (centimeters)?!

[@brandanessex]

Great video!!! Im going to try this for my gbc games!

[@Letstalkretro]

+Brandan Kai Thanks bud.

[@demit189]

Good video! I want a super mario 64 box for my collection, but I can't afford it. Thanks!

[@Letstalkretro]

Nuziburt Thanks for watching :-)

[@MarioTetris998]

What kind of paper do you use to make the nes boxes?

[@Letstalkretro]

It’s a4 glossy 350gsm.

[@MarioTetris998]

@@Letstalkretro thanks!

[@supermonk3y07]

Sorry I must've missed it but what type of paper did you guys use?

[@psovegeta]

I have some old Atari 2600 and 7800 boxes with manuals and documentation. I wonder if I should contact the website and scan them in for their use if it would help.

[@Letstalkretro]

It is well worth a try but I am worried they will not be interested because they mostly concentrate on nintendo. I made a few for my loose 2600 carts. IF they are not interested the folks at thecoverproject.net absolutly will be.

[@diddly206]

How do I adjust the size of the A3 file in photoshop to print onto A4. I’m not bothered about the inlay trays I just want a smaller version of the original box sizes to pop my loose cartridge into. Thank you in advance. Great video by the way 👏

[@foch41]

I wouldn't mind a reproduction box, If its just going up for my own collection n show a nice crisp repro box is fine by me.

[@JazzyWaffles]

"Other brands are available" As a non-brit who knows this sentence well I fucking WHEEZED in laughter.

[@Letstalkretro]

Glad something we made gave you a smile. Thanks for watching.

[@arkanogames5639]

@@Letstalkretro HELLO FRIEND WILL YOU KNOW WHERE I CAN DOWNLOAD THE FILE FOR THE SUPER NES AMERICAN BOX

[@dodemhmh]

can u add the link of which paper you use, I tried many kind and they not strong enough

[@chriswells506]

That was well done.

[@yourepostedinthewrongneigh1545]

Made a European box for my American Mario 1 cart haha thanks for the tutorial lads

[@Letstalkretro]

You Reposted in the Wrong Neighbourhood - the purists are not going to like that :-) thanks for watching.

[@yourepostedinthewrongneigh1545]

Let's Talk Retro They can stuff it xD And no prob, you got a sub from me.

[@mrbrownjeremy]

Gorgeous work, and really appreciate your thoroughness here! Thank you for sharing!

[@MrCavemanGamer]

since Sega used cases instead of boxes you can go to the cover project and download the covers

[@Letstalkretro]

+The Nintendo Noob The coverproject rocks.

[@MrCavemanGamer]

Let's Talk Retro It does!!!!

[@oliverbruce837]

There's a way to tell if it's fake the qr code now has the logo on it

[@MarioTetris998]

So if I were to print this out on SRA3, that would be the exact size of an original box? I have a loose super Mario bros 3, Tetris, ice hockey and rad racer so this would be very help full :)

[@LexLucario7922]

Think I'm going to use this method to get back a box I lost (if I can't find it)

[@Letstalkretro]

Yeah do it. I’ve made so many for my loose nes games. It’s not perfect but it’s just nice seeing what the box was like.

[@karonte6969]

Hi, ever since I saw this video I've been trying to get the templates printed by professionals with no luck (copyright infringement and stuff). I want to invest in a printer so I can do it just like you. Can you please tell me the specs of your printer. Even better the exact printer you have on the video. In short, what should I look in a printer in order to get the great quality of your boxes. Thank you so much!

[@Letstalkretro]

Canon ip7250 is a cracking budget printer.

[@doublepickaxeyt3400]

Can you do a video on SNES carts? Because I would love to make a box for Super Mario World.

[@Letstalkretro]

Hi its pretty much identical give it a go.

[@doublepickaxeyt3400]

@@Letstalkretro Ok thanks! I would love to make some boxes for BS Zelda, Super Mario World and Mario All Stars.

[@Letstalkretro]

@@doublepickaxeyt3400 I’m sure they have all those. Let us know how you get on.

[@doublepickaxeyt3400]

@@Letstalkretro All right I'll update on how my retro game box making went.

[@doublepickaxeyt3400]

@@Letstalkretro I made a Super mario world repro box, it looks all right there's just a lot of tape. 1st ever box i made. Next up imma do a repro mario all stars box.

[@matthewgallagher9875]

Can you tell us how much the print job costed per box? Sorry if you mentioned in the video and I missed it. I've heard 1-3 euros but I can't imagine a print shop in the US doing it for that cheap. Did you have to supply the glossy A3 (300g?) to them, Or did the print shop supply it? If you do it at home, any tips for what kind of printer is needed? And last, do you know anything about how the original boxes were manufactured - printing on some sticker type sheet, then laying it over a gray colored cardboard is it? Is this practical for the common man?

[@VoxScripts]

exactly what i was lookin for! Thank you so much

[@SurvivingTheApocalypse]

I use a guy on eBay called Retrotendo64 for any boxes I need. The guy is a genius and has even made me boxes for Atari Jaguar games.

[@Letstalkretro]

Good stuff. For the boxes I have left to make decent scans just don't exist online. One you have a template with the correct sizes you can just paste artwork scans over the top.

[@worldgate989]

And this is why ebay is flooded with 'totally new rare in box' games, and then you get them and you realize you got fucked over.

[@Letstalkretro]

+worldgate989 You have a very good point. All downloads have the nintnbox barcode label but there is nothing stopping people adjusting the images.

[@worldgate989]

Let's Talk Retro I was unaware the barcode was changed and your right, takes little to no effort to put another barcode over it. Most sellers dont show the barcode, probably a good sign its fake.

[@Jack-mm2be]

Trying to get some English Pokemon boxes but they just appear to all be in french writing ?

[@Letstalkretro]

The site is French. You could try looking on the cover project for English variant and copy and past the artwork maybe ?

[@dusantoda]

Thanks a lot for this video! I would like to print some boxes for SNES games, but I am interested in one thing. When I download an image in A3 format, do I have to change some dimensions or can I let it print immediately?

[@Letstalkretro]

Hi. When printing it’s really important to make sure the size is not adjusted as they are actual size. Most boxes come in a4 or a3 but a3 is the way to go if you can.

[@ramgladore]

I wanna do this. I have a bunch of old nes and gameboy games and only a few of them are in boxes.

[@joshuamasonseight-bitbasta2451]

Off to make me some Dragon Warrior boxes for my carts. Thanks!

[@modernwize]

what card stock was used on original boxes?

[@fiatbravodriver]

Only Nintendo or their printers would know this.

[@Zeithri]

I'd love to do this. But I think I missed something or you didn't mention. What kind of a printer is this and what kind of paper would be needed?

[@Letstalkretro]

Hi I’d say any good photo printer would be good. One that feeds from the top would be best. Most popular ones that feed from a bottom tray will struggle with anything over 300gsm but 350 is the ideal weight.

[@t.d.j.dejong6285]

Hi, lots of the original boxes are grey on the inside, ruff texture, and soft/glossy on the printside. Do yo know what paper that is and do you have a link? Thanks.

[@Vinyl_guy]

I prefer glue when i stick mine together i always use 2 sheets of a4 on my home printer

[@zpickle7]

Where do I find the files for the game boxes?

[@christianramirez7910]

What Game?

[@hardrockinhere]

What about box inserts? Like the white card part in N64 boxes that holds the game in place

[@Letstalkretro]

hardrockinhere these can also be found on the site but it's far better to get them from eBay. Don't pay more than $1.50 though.

[@Va9ers21]

All I see are videos on how to make your own repro carts, labels and boxes. What about game manuals?? Is there a site that sells custom snes game manuals? Or a way to DIY it? You would think the internet would be flooded with ways. Alas, I find nothing.

[@Letstalkretro]

nintandbox.net offer free home printable manuals.

[@toasterpostinc3113]

Search up: *insert game name* game manual pdf

[@NicolasPotvin]

Seen the website and its mostly PAL version. Is there a site where i can find NSTC boxes?

[@x302justice]

NicolasPotvin look on google images for “NSTC SNES box art” and the spine, photoshop them together into a usable net fot a box and you’ve made the NSTC box art

[@LexLucario7922]

I've seen NSTC versions on the website.

[@anderson_maker]

Where can I find the files for the game boxes?? I really want to print some boxes for my pokemon games for the Game Boy...

[@kessu83]

great work. One Q: once you finish, does looks like the finish of the real box? I mean, those type of comercial boxes looks as if they have a final coating or thin film on top of the printing (sorry here, not an expert on this matter). Is that the case, did they apply a thin film after printing or can you get the same result with just top quality paper? thanks!!!

[@wigma]

can i suggest you buy a bone folder board its cheap and much better for creating the creases for the fold

[@Letstalkretro]

Anything to do a better job is great advice thank you. Can you recommend a good one to buy please?

[@wigma]

www.amazon.co.uk/Wilton-Brands-Martha-Stewart-Scoring/dp/B008X09DZM/ref=sr_1_16/278-3463656-3885558?ie=UTF8&qid=1466535886&sr=8-16&keywords=bone+folder this is the one i use whats good about doing it this way is when you actually fold the card you wont get any ink loss

[@Letstalkretro]

Thank you +wigma will be ordering.

[@johnpreston8120]

do you have the games lose in the boxes? Also what are you putting over the boxes before they go back on the shelf and where can I get them? Thanks

[@Letstalkretro]

Hi Chris. I use box protectors. There are always some on ebay. I also use inserts these are also on ebay.

[@petros-v4w]

Hello could you explain me the type of paper you are using???Is it good for the N64 games???? Great video!!

[@GliAmiciDeiNerd2527]

I went to the printshop yesterday , and when I printed the box gameboy super mario land 2 , I found the image bigger than the original box. Can you give me some tips ?

[@kinorecenzje2360]

Thx Very Much for this Video :)

[@maximodejesus5001]

what type of paper did you use to print and make the design of the box

[@Letstalkretro]

350gsm

[@dx-gameplay396]

​@@Letstalkretroart paper ?

[@arkanogames5639]

HELLO FRIEND WILL YOU KNOW WHERE I CAN DOWNLOAD THE FILE FOR THE SUPER NES AMERICAN BOX

[@confederatefan]

What shop did you go to for your paper? I tried Ryman and the works and they dont have any of that card

[@kikocuba1852]

hi. thanks thanks thanks for this tutorial. what software do you use to print the covers in the original format?

[@Letstalkretro]

kikocuba 1 thanks for watching. I use photoshop but there is a great free alternative called GIMP. Give it a go.

[@kikocuba1852]

@@Letstalkretro many thanks!! thanks to you and your video I made the boxes of almost all my games. you're a great one!

[@kikocuba1852]

Please would you do a tutorial to make the inlay boxes for snes and n64? :):)

[@leeyoung1633]

Need some advice, I recently printed out some boxes mainly snes, Super famicom and Nes, but the nes and snes have came out bigger than expected, the super famicom perfect, what size setting should I put before I print from my laptop?

[@RazorBucks]

Thank you for the video. I am sorry, but I am having trouble determining the paper size you said. Could you please tell me if it is one of these, (A2 420 x 594 mm 16.5 x 23.4 in) ~or~ (A3 297 x 420 mm 11.7 x 16.5 in) ~or~ neither. Thank you.

[@Letstalkretro]

Razor Bucks. Hi if you can print A3 or get A3 printed download the A3 file from the site and use A3. If you can’t print A3 you can download the A4 size file from the site and use that but printing to A4 you will have to stick two bits of card together. So A3 is best.

[@RazorBucks]

@@Letstalkretro Thank you for the reply, did you use matte or semi-gloss?

[@Letstalkretro]

Semi gloss or just gloss is what I use. :-)

[@RazorBucks]

@@Letstalkretro Thank you again.

[@mars0215]

@Let's Talk Retro What size do you print at? Do you print A4 size or Legal size, or what?

[@Letstalkretro]

Hi it’s A4. We are in Europe for now anyway.

[@beaglelad]

Hi great video,did you say the card stock was semi gloss? Also could I ask how much did the printers charge for the print?

[@Letstalkretro]

+Koopa Trooper79 hi thanks for watching. The card stock is semi gloss. The print shop kindly do me a great deal and its £2.50 each.

[@beaglelad]

Wow thats a really good deal 😆 thanks for the reply

[@gustavgmcsd]

Hi, I want to repro the Super Nes Console Box, but cannot find the art in that site. Any suggestions where to look for this box art? (the console nowadays is called super nes fat console

[@edwhiting1803]

Having trouble figuring out what size in pixels the image should be for printing. My print shop is having trouble saying my image is like 3000 x 2000. It obviously didn't save as actual size.

[@Letstalkretro]

Hi Ed. try this load the jpg in Photoshop then save a a pdf without changing anything. If they can't print that actual size they need retraining. Hope you have ps if not try Gimp or another package. Or email me will send you the PDF.

[@edwhiting1803]

Thank you so much! I will give it a shot 😁

[@user-xg8rl8zs9h]

I hope this works for my 2 nes games that didnt come with a case.

[@makedaevilmage]

What kind of paper/cardstock thickness would you recommend for making these boxes?

[@Letstalkretro]

Hi when we made this video the print shop used 350gsm card but lots of people have commented to say printing on sticky backed paper and then sticking the print to some card is better. Either way give it a go. I'm sure you will find what's best for you.

[@1mcdeluxe]

So today I had Supernintendo boxes in A3 printed at staples. But the prints are a bit too big. why is it ?

[@fiatbravodriver]

Sadly they must have adjusted the scale.

[@1mcdeluxe]

@@fiatbravodriver I think it should be the right size?!🤔

[@Santos47]

what paper use? thanks

[@ArcadeCabNBud]

sweet ! thanks for this man

[@smallsthetimelord4066]

The box I intend to make just so happens to be the Mario Bros./Duck Hunt so that's funny.

[@fiatbravodriver]

Glad you liked it. Drpengin

[@LeesInUSA]

How do you get inside trays?

[@thefostersgamesreviews]

so 300gsm card and when it's printing the image does it have to be adjusted from the website if so to what and was it A1 card

[@GENERALBLAIS]

i have 2 questions , 1st what kind of printer i need to do this and what kind of paper? thank you

[@Letstalkretro]

+Mint Blais Hi the print shop use 350gsm card and the printer is a colour laser but inkjet and glossy gives a better finish if you ask me. Some people on comments have said use glossy sticky paper and stick onto card after.

[@GENERALBLAIS]

Let's Talk Retro i know u said that to everyone but i want to BUY the printer so do u have any recommendation ? thank you

[@Letstalkretro]

The print shop use a Konica biz hub. I don't know what model.

[@GENERALBLAIS]

thank friend

[@Fettoccini]

Ripper video! :D

[@Letstalkretro]

Thanks Ash.

[@christianramirez7910]

What is the height and width for the nes games?

[@Sonder_stoic]

So let’s say I have original boxes... how much are they worth? Cuz literally nobody has them. I imagine they are worth more than the game itself at this point

[@Letstalkretro]

Cholise Jones bet you are right. Pick a few and check eBay for prices and see how you get on.

[@Sonder_stoic]

Let's Talk Retro I can’t find anything tho 🤣 it seems like no one has the original boxes to sell they only have the game cartridge thing itself

[@joshu1918]

I keep printing mine but the ink keeps bleeding and it sucks. How do I fix that?

[@Feeeeeeeeeeeesh_10]

You can’t you need to buy a new printer

[@marconius1341]

How do you prevent the ink from cracking when you fold the paper?

[@ulisescorpus1965]

instead of cutting the backside, you must press along the folding lines using something with a rounded end

[@NostalgiaOvertime]

Does this website even work anymore? To download a scan I need to register. Ok. But there's captcha to fill. Which doesn't appear.

[@callgrl]

I didn't sign up and I can download files fine, I don't know what you're on about

[@cpiep]

Do they have a template for the inner box?

[@Letstalkretro]

chris pieper hi they do. They are under the inserts section. Often you can buy inserts on eBay cheap and good quality. Thanks for watching.

[@danieljz1316]

where can I get the template for the retail SNES cardridge boxes??

[@Letstalkretro]

Daniel JZ hi it’s listed under the templates section.

[@danieljz1316]

I know I am risking making myself sound and look really stupid, but where would I find their *templates* section? All I can find is box art for what is already out there. Im trying to make myself a custom River City Ransom 3 snes retail box.

[@Letstalkretro]

Daniel JZ don’t worry. I will take a look when I’m home from work and sort something. I can always email you one if you like or you could download a box that has the style you want to use and just paste your artwork over the top. Will do my best to help.

[@mr.mentertainment]

Do you use glossy paper

[@fiatbravodriver]

Sure why not

[@superamario6464]

How do you dimension the download so that it prints off the right size ?

[@Letstalkretro]

amar parvez Hi, James is the expert but as far as I know once you have joined the site and logged in you should be able to download the box art as a full size hi res image. When printing I always open the image in photoshop for printing and make sure it is set to print at 100% in the print settings and it always then prints at actual size. I would imagine printing form other software would be much the same. Hope that helps, Colin.

[@thetonberryslair]

what if i print it on paper and tape it on thick card paper? because my library won't print it on the thick paper.

[@Letstalkretro]

Sounds like a good idea. Good luck.

[@thetonberryslair]

Let's Talk Retro ok one more question what sisze should it be when i save it to a USB

[@Letstalkretro]

If a jpg anything from 2-8mb or a photoshop pdf 3mb upwards depending on the quality. Hope this is of some use.

[@michellepotter4833]

Let's Talk Retro

[@RodrigoMetal87]

Can you do this but with genesis games?

[@Letstalkretro]

Rodrigo Romero hi because Genesis games came in plastic boxes you can get the artwork and print your own sleeves no problem.

[@RodrigoMetal87]

@@Letstalkretro yes i've seen many of them, but i wanted to do boxes like the ones in your video because first, i can't buy clamshell boxes in my country except if i buy them in a bulk of 25 pieces and they are very expensive (like 125 dollars plus taxes on the argentine customs) and secondly it Will be much cheaper this way. Plus i haven't seen any tutorial doing this boxes if not is done with NES N64 SNES catridges.

[@Letstalkretro]

Rodrigo Romero AliExpress do poor quality replacements but your best bet is to buy all the cheapest sports games you can and use the cases.

[@idhamsyakir6355]

did you use hard cardstock

[@Letstalkretro]

Hi its 350gsm Card Stock but loads of people say its better to print onto a sticker and then stick that on card but never tried that. Thanks for Watching.

[@idhamsyakir6355]

i just use normal what if i use cereal boxes?

[@johnmoruzzi2808]

I want to know how to make the game CONSOLE it's self

[@Letstalkretro]

John Moruzzi they now have a nes box on the site If that’s any good.

[@yoshirivalry]

Thanks

[@madcommodore]

You could use the blunt side of a butter knife blade, you only need to compress the card along where you need a seem not to score anything for 350gsm card. I couldn't find any such photo inkjet A3 paper for sale on ebay though. Great website link though thanks :o)

[@youssefelhamdaoui3599]

thank you su much brother

[@doubledragon1578]

What dimensions do these get printed in from photoshop, it said width 10'' length 8'' and they look like baby boxes, the cartridge wont even fit, can somebody please give the right dimensions before I waste anymore ink ?

[@Letstalkretro]

Hi the designs are all actual size. When you print or get them printed you must not use scale to fit etc.

[@ccateni28]

What about the cover project?

[@Letstalkretro]

The coverproject is amazing been an active member for many years.

[@GeddyRC]

I may be wrong on this, but I think Cover Project is mostly for replacement covers, while NintandBox is more focused on complete DIY boxes.

[@Letstalkretro]

You are spot on.

[@markhall1181]

I can't register on the website :(

[@Shauntendo64]

Nice video I found this useful. Is the box thickness about the same as an original box?

[@Letstalkretro]

Shauntendo64 Hi. The thickness is very close. I would need a micrometer to check but don't have one sorry.

[@oldchannel3916]

What type of paper was used?

[@Letstalkretro]

GyroThesia hi it’s 260gsm glossy.

[@SadButTrue__]

what paper are you using to make this box?

[@Letstalkretro]

mk l hi the paper is 350gsm card. Some on here say print to glossy sticky paper then stick that onto card but have never tried. You can also use 350gsm photo paper. Not all printers can take think card. My canon just about manages it. If it feeds from the rear you should have less hassle. Or print shop may be? If you have one.

[@Mezzabotte54]

Let’s talk Retro which Canon Printer you are using here? Kind regards

[@a1.70]

for people that want CIB but can't afford CIB I guess

[@christopherwilliams9418]

Also for homebrew goodies!

[@Sammickk09]

I live in the US and I've tried this a few times, but they don't turn out so well... Also looks like your fold edges cracked up really bad... i just started buying mine from professionals. google boxmygames...

[@thetonberryslair]

are they plastic or actual boxes?

[@Letstalkretro]

Card.

[@MrTHECLASSICPRO]

holy shit those jackasses sell 10 boxes for 80 bucks, are they crazy???

[@stephenbrodie5617]

Let's Talk Retro what exactly would I bring to the print shop so they can print a certain box art for me ? And what’s the cost around?

[@Mezzabotte54]

Let’s talk Retro which Canon Printer you are using here? Kind regards

[@Letstalkretro]

MAX I. MUM ip7250 :-)

[@Mezzabotte54]

Ty