Letting the Apprentice Run an AC Maintenance Service Call Godzilla vs Rheem Condenser Who Will Win?

[@Zack-fu8sn]

Godzilla should diagnose and take a stab at every single service call you guys go to together. It'll definitely excel his growth and learning. As always great videos!

[@The-LongRoad-Home]

Absolutely man that's how we all learned! Hopefully investing enough of ourselves into our trade to be trusted...Go Go Godzilla!!!

[@chuckquinn8026]

Again, I trained people for 40+ years. Not only does he need to prove himself but he needs to show you that he can do the job correctly, safely, and most importantly, alone. You need the feedback to verify how he’s coming along and what his strengths and weaknesses are. He’ll get it in time...he’s willing to learn, and that’s 99%...

[@adamedwards2435]

If you're serious and want to learn, there's no bad students just bad teachers.

[@DA-PICKLES-VR]

The contactor on the unit was the original and it is a single pole. It says shunt on the plastic cover. That is a classic Ruud contactor.

[@wallacefan17]

Yelp lol

[@brianouellette6567]

Way to go Godzilla. Being put on the spot like this, for the world to see by your boss.. I wouldn't have like it You did good bud.

[@anneriordon4131]

What a difference it is to learn the trade from someone who is still excited about it and successful alot of guys end up bitter and could only work with a dog

[@joshuat2751]

couldnt say it better my self. luckily i learned from an old timer who was more than happy to teach me when i was as green as the grass when it comes to AC now in my 4th year in the trade and switched from Installing to Service and man do i love doing service way more haha.

[@Hodge215]

You got a good teacher Godzilla!! He has patience and wants to see you grow. Just keep paying attention to the master and you will become one. 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 #MikeyPipes #Gunzilla

[@bronsonmccall6845]

Great entertainment! Needed a good laugh thinks.. Mikey and Zilla!

[@HVACingMyWay]

Godzilla feeling the pressure now at least he takes the constructive criticism with a smile unlike kelvin

[@petertorressr7725]

Keep learning Godzilla and make Saint Mike proud of you.

[@dannykeane6565]

ALLWAYS WATCH WHAT THE OLD MAN DOESE , HE ALL READY F... UP WHAT YOUR THINKING OF DOING. 25 year in the trade

[@losferwords100]

You're a good teacher, you've got the patience for it. I think most guys would've loved to be an apprentice under somebody like you instead of the downright abusers we had to suffer under. The guy I apprenticed for would push you out of the way the second you took too long to do something and take over. Frustrating because you can't learn anything that way, you learn by getting thrown into the fire and figuring it out like this. These guys out here don't understand that you don't become a master day one, it takes years to gain the knowledge and skill to do something as efficiently as somebody who's been doing it for 30 years. Curb your expectations, guys out there act like they were never apprentices before. They were treated like garbage so they treat their apprentices like garbage. A bad practice that's unfortunately been passed on for far too long.

[@blahblahblah4632]

Hands on is the way to learn. Good job zilla!

[@FB-111A]

Your post update is my sentiments exactly. Personally I enjoy viewing HVAC videos. Your methodology serves the customer well.

[@jefferygrady3181]

Knowledge is something no one can ever take away from you Mikey pipes! The best way for Godzilla to learn is for him to actually do the work with Mikey pipes there to guide him!

[@robertengel2635]

Only need a single pole if there’s a crank case heater on those other wise don’t matter if it’s single or double

[@OleRazzleDazzler]

how do you figure

[@OleRazzleDazzler]

whats the difference of a one pole and a two pole for a crank case if you can just tie it in to the L1 lug on a 2 pole. L1 and T1 is thevsame on. a 1 pole.

[@robertengel2635]

@@OleRazzleDazzler there is no difference if you understand what your wiring but when they have a crank case heater that’s when you normally see the single pole contractor

[@robertengel2635]

@@OleRazzleDazzler but if you just go wire for wire and don’t understand what you doing then the heater will not work when unit is not calling so yes your correct there not different if you understand what your doing but some “techs” I’m sure don’t

[@OleRazzleDazzler]

yeah. those techs that barely can read schematics. i see what u mean

[@eldoradoboy]

+1 for another commenter that says take notes.. I still have my big 3 ring binder full of the info sheets that came with contactors, motors, gas valves, furnace boards, etc.. not every unit still has the nice wiring diagram in it.. one thing I didnt have when I was in the industry was a smart phone with a camera.. taking pictures, organizing them and saving them is huge.. I do it in my current career all the time.. I also take pictures before I unwire something... if my phone rings in the middle of a job im likely to forget where all those pretty colors were when I hang up.. refer to the pic as its quick

[@doncaranci2547]

What I like about your videos? You are on the east coast. You are funny and you are nuts.. Thanks for the videos.

[@denverlewis5087]

One thing I would have done with Steven, when he was wiring that contractor was explain to him what each wire he took off and reinstalled did and where it went to, Ie. the black wire was going to common on the compressor, the red wire going to run on the compressor, and the orange wire going to the capacitor, which in turn powers the start windings in the compressor and fan motor. I think he would retain the info better if he knew what they did. I'm really glad to see younger people getting into the HVAC field. Keep learning Steven and you will get it.

[@FG-tg9uk]

I think Steven "AKA GODZILLA" is a bright young man. He's shown me that he presents himself with a good productive attitude. He wants to learn and arrives everyday ready to work. Patience and the proper influence and training, that only Saint Mike can offer, will positively impact him and Pipe Doctor immensely. I'm confident and optimistic. If you don't mind me saying so. Thank you Mr. Mike for your great videos. Thumbs up.

[@larrybrocato1733]

Godzilla is truly Green lol. Trial by fire the only way to truly learn. Keep them coming Guys love the Videos.

[@peteverrelli5797]

You’re a good teacher Mike, Godzilla I think will be just fine

[@Keegeth]

Personaly I do horrible when I have a senior tech looking over my shoulder. When I don't have someone looking over my shoulder, I can bang shit out mad fast and correctly because of no pressure. I think with Godzilla he knows this stuff but feels the pressure so he can't really think straight, even though you're mad chill. 😂 So next time just give him a push to start then let him take care of it wile you chill at your van reading the comments on your vids. Just a recommendation.

[@jasonwb6884]

Holly hell those units are close together. All that heat in such a confined space.

[@nightone9720]

Okay first of all, I strongly believe that you have to understand what the parts do and how they work before you are allowed to perform a maintenance. When I taught my apprentice how to do a maintenance on an AC system we always start by taking the cover off of the condenser, name all of the components, and explain what they do. Then we stop! We then sit in the grass while we take a look at the wiring diagram on the cover of the unit. We start by reading the legend of of all the components the diagram lists. We then find and name all the components on the wiring diagram as we go down the legend. Then we start from L1 L2 and work our way through the diagram and follow the flow of electricity through the components while naming them again, and making our way through the schematic. Then we bring the schematic over to the unit and do it again while relating the schematic to the actual physical components/parts. This is the best way to turn the lightbulb on in the apprentice. Take it slow and create a no pressure situation by guiding them through. Guide them through, guide them through, guide them through, and now they see the system. Now they understand the system. Now they see it clearly instead of just a bunch of confusing parts and wires. It truly amazes me how well this method works. Take it very slow while going through the diagram because it is very important. And if you do this you will save months of the apprentice being confused and unsure of themselves.

[@leeit2me]

Hey, Can't knock that grasshopper from learning from his mistakes. One day, he will be telling Mikey Pipes what to do!.. LOL

[@stevehullings704]

In the age of smart phones and camera's, I always suggest to greenhorns that they should take pictures of the wiring before they start ripping them of their holders. Good that Godzilla is looking at schematic and charging chart . Keep going 37 years later I'm still learning everyday.

[@KurtMGibbs]

Hilarious thumbnail for the video! I'm reading the comments while shaking my head. There's nothing wrong with the way you're training Godzilla. He has to learn the fundamentals of the trade if he ever wants to progress beyond the apprentice level and that includes learning a logical approach to problem solving. Also, he needs to learn what each part of the system does... it's the only way one can troubleshoot a problem.

[@jamesboyd6174]

If I had a mentor like Mike when I started out would had been a better situation. Most tech when they teach you are d**ks and be yelling and talking only about your flaws. Godzilla you are fortunate and have good qualities as an apprentice as well. Both of you keep working the good path and one day it will pay dividens in the future.

[@joeyjennings9548]

a/c running in "Godzilla mode" 🐲

[@hvacmac6847]

Tell Godzilla to get him one of them HVAC 11 in 1 screw drivers!😂😂😂 He’s using a screw driver used for electricians!

[@leifhoganson6996]

That old contactor is a single pole with a shunt, shows on the cover.

[@killahbeats631]

I said the same thing

[@sirslabington3255]

Man Mikey reeming zilla in this video. Even though he’s wrong in saying it was a 2 pole buzzing to begin with, the thing says shunt on it 🤦‍♂️ Hahahahah thanks for the laugh

[@v65sabreking]

Keep trying kid he will make you a great tech .. In a year you will look back on these videos and laugh

[@tahoe6182]

That was me at the beginning of my hvac learning

[@antoniosantiago2770]

The only time a one pole contactor is needed is for crank case heater. I also put what goes back but it won't make a difference if you don't have the crankcase heater. Thanks for the oil tip under the fan. I'll check for that. TIP check across when unit is running from L1 to T1in voltage if you have voltage it's a sign of pitting contactor.replace it. You can also check with no 24 v at coil and going with continuity if there is resistance that means the same pitting not making completely. You have showed me some things when it comes to steam just sharing other tips that work. That method work with any switch. Last one gone from one side of coil to ground when you get 24v remove that side and wire nut it won't short. So you safe to do test. Put a wago 😂 take care and thanks for your time

[@antoniosantiago2770]

Excuse I write to fast. In continuity there can be no voltage you already know that you don't want to damage your meter. I do everything with voltage even capacitor if I get a voltage drop then I take.the disconnect off and remove the 24v by going from ground to each side of contactor find 24 v remove that from thermostat coming from air handler wire nut it then I do the manual continuity test. I perform that as a confirmation of the voltage drop test across the legs if I get resistance I replace . Makes life easy and once you do them under load all the time it becomes really quicker and saves call backs. Thanks for sharing comments.

[@nicolasrobles556]

Great job guys ,,, mr pipes got alot of knowledge to past down

[@andrewdonagher6497]

That's the only way you learn is making the mistakes but he needs to understand the electrical side of things. I think your very patient with him far play 👍

[@anneriordon4131]

My first attic i hung the air handler & coil on threaded rod but did not pitch towards drain house was ice cold i tested my drain with a gallon of water that i poured in directly well my customer got a brand new ceiling

[@EODagon]

Was that unit really 410A? because on a PT chart that's a 17 degree saturation temp. Pretty sure that EVAP coil is gonna freeze. I could be wrong. Did you take a wet bulb reading in the house? No disrespect just curious.

[@jasonthejawman5442]

Godzilla You are amazing

[@steveg6181]

Gunz has a long ways to go but there is no substitute for "baptism by fire" - at least he isnt in front of the customer adding embarrassment to the mix... good way to tell if he really is serious about learning or just helping hold the camera.

[@joshuat2751]

who in their right mind.... passed off on a damn water spicket BEING IN A DAMN BOX WITH ALL ELECTRICAL LOL

[@kennydonnelly8205]

It’s the best way to learn ! Get thrown in at the deep end learn by you mistakes but give guidance and go through each job and say what each thing dose that will make him a better engineer Plus have you posted my Stickers Mike ??? Kenny Donnelly from over the pond 👍🇬🇧

[@yakkiebush5671]

I’ve been a Plumber 40 yrs, could never wear gloves like you and Steve lav does.at least not for everything ya touch 😂

[@marvinhaglar1973]

He should always pull the contact coil wires off first secure them and then take off everything else

[@marvinhaglar1973]

Contactor***

[@esunetdude]

Steven is going to come out of this as a pro. You learn by doing, and he has an instructor that is teaching him how to do the job properly, not slipshod work. Godzilla, just remember the adage: Learn something new every day.

[@vtecispower]

You got half your money's worth out of gunzilla in this job.

[@BrickTop900]

This was too good 😂

[@Zack-fu8sn]

Hahaha righty tighty Loosey goosey like the screws on the top of a navian combustion chamber 🤣⚰️🤣⚰️

[@tjbee1905]

It's fine!

[@MariosACandRefrigeration]

i think the unit needed refrigerant more than a contactor or cleaning in my opinion do not hate.even a bosch with that pressure wont work,they all say they need routine maintenance.but there is always something wrong.

[@busman2000]

If you ever come across a contactor that doesn't seem to look the same as the one you are replacing ( although it's specifications are correct) you can check it's function with a multimeter on continuity . Then once you know which terminals do what you can normally visually swap terminal to terminal, however sometimes the new or replacement piece has double the number of terminals. That's where it pays to have a spare on hand just in case.

[@kevinpoore5626]

He's confident he's wrong he's confident of something LOL :-) :-) y'all both keep your feet dry LOL

[@OldguyinBelize]

he seems to want to learn and i hope some more field experience will pay off.

[@bradproctor6925]

I think you have done a great job teaching Godzilla, not sure if there's any hope for Kelvin though! The only thing I would do is to explain to The 'zilla is if he is replacing a part, contactor, cap, etc, is to explain to him what that part does and how it does it. It may help. I know it did for me when I was coming up.

[@traxxasman417]

Sometimes just have to throw em to the wolves... at least he couldn't screw up righty tighty lefty loosey on this one.

[@jasonwb6884]

The contractors in those units are single pull. Even the cover on the contactor says shunted on one side.

[@tjbee1905]

Watching Zilla install that contactor is like jerking with your left hand!! Painful bud!!! roflmao!

[@tcollinstom]

Godzilla keep at it, I'm pulling for you. I learned to be an electrician from my Dad, best education I got. Mikey's not that tough, it's more like a hazing. Yes, you need to go get the pipe stretcher and fill up the blinker fluid in the van. Once you learn the trade, then the next lessons are how to deal with your clients. Mikey has tact..he's Rico Suave. Pick up on those lessons too. You'll be just fine with Mikey Pipes.

[@craighvac1808]

I think you have too much of a "friend" type of work relationship with Godzilla. When you want him to get his hands dirty and you become serious obviously you just want him to figure it out but it clearly just makes him more nervous, he clearly doesnt know much of what he is doing unless he is being told exactly what to do. I feel for Steven because I knew nothing at one point to but I never had a guy filming me while struggling either, I'm sure that can play with his mind and even if he thinks hes right, your demeanor makes him question if hes doing anything right. Just my 2 cents

[@atlasfueloilinc.2421]

Did Steven take and check a pic with his phone first to verify existing wire placement. Steven would carry a pack of tic tac’s in your pocket. And give two to Mikey when he is breathing down your neck. So you get minty fresh hot air. After reading this all you have to do is pull the tic tac box out of your pocket and Mikey will understand clearly. Mikey likes it. This is how I have learned to get my point across with people. Very calmly. Thanks eric

[@yfdfireman2]

Hey St Mike, if you look at the 5:20 mark you will realize the L1/T1 is shunted making that a single pull contractor. You did say correct you so here it is.... lol.

[@yfdfireman2]

@@PipeDoctor lol.... don’t think of it as an attack, more a gentle correction... besides that, most of us here at YTPD wouldn’t do as well as Godzilla servicing the unit.

[@dougtesar8583]

I have been watching your site for a while love how you teach him best way to learn in thru experience. The previous contractors obviously didn't know what they were doing on putting in double pole contactor on those units.As you pointed out they have crank case heaters on them so the way they were wired before the crank case heaters never be energized all the time only when double pole contactor was pulled in. I am surprised that they didn't know that and void warranty on compressor if they were still under warranty. Can you imagine on a cool day below say 40 degree day start up on a compressor with cold oil how hard that is on a compressor?

[@kevinpoore5626]

I may be deaf but it sounds like a stuck contactor LOL Zilla is still a young Padawan LOL

[@HvacGregG]

love those bosh units my co.having a bosh reps coming out with there trailers and do a demo and class teaching on there systems next week cant wait

[@paulgilliland2992]

That was good stuff.

[@timfife2128]

Good job ,just relax

[@tinman4585]

Who else is making $40 something hr watching Zilla getting his balls broke? 😂 Good job fellas

[@tinman4585]

@@PipeDoctor $47 to be exact plus HC and company vehicle 5 weeks pto. Side work is five times the money

[@robzehendner752]

a 2 pole would work just fine on that unit.

[@stefano8809]

Great GODZILLA

[@countryfriedhvac]

Those were actually both 1 1/2 pole contractors.

[@countryfriedhvac]

Enjoyed the video

[@Spec360]

Hey we all still learning

[@leifhoganson6996]

Godzilla, recommend only removing enough wires to move the contactor and move one wire at a time.

[@tinman4585]

Pull the 24v wire nut Godzilla Jesus

[@Jimmyd2hvacr]

Come on Mikey pipes a two pole contactor is much better than a single pole specially safety wise when a two pole contactor is disconnected there is no power going to the compressor if somebody sticks the hands into it besides that it’s always better to break both legs of a two pole 230 V unit thank you

[@johnhegarty3491]

“How good are you at the game of operation” 😂

[@scobar0076]

for the master bedroom, I would have pick the best of the best, Mitsubishi, I know you are not a fan. But I have install them plenty and they works great... better than fujitso.

[@1UTUBEUSERNAME]

Bathrobe at 1:00 pm? Not all heroes wear capes.

That’s a single.

[@1UTUBEUSERNAME]

Always use a nut driver. Fuck those flat screwdrivers. Could put an eye out with those things.

Your pulling off a single pull and putting another in its place.

[@killahbeats631]

If you open up the contactor you could also had seen if it was a single or double fyi im pretty sure the one you took out was single as well

[@killahbeats631]

Yea because some single pole have a cover on the as well

[@douglasteetzel3552]

I agree. MP replaced like for like. The old ones had a shunt between L1 & T1- as shown on schematic. Bad MP.

[@killahbeats631]

@@douglasteetzel3552 that I was pretty much trying to say on the cover and schematic it said the contactor had a shunt idk MP I would double check that I actually found the contactor on Google and was single to

[@DavidBrown-lq2qp]

good job Godzilla

[@jerryforeman4543]

Godzilla is alittle bit slow for someone who went thru HVAC school!

[@eldoradoboy]

Logged in and started t owatch the video Premiere and then my work phone rang.. missed the rest... time to watch it now

[@eldoradoboy]

@@PipeDoctor dude!! brings back lots of memories of my first couple times..I didnt learn crap in HVAC school compared to what I learned my first year in the field! this is how its done! lucky early in the season and no yellow jackets in those units.. wait till he is up on a commercial roof and pops open the door of a 10 ton to be greeted with 100 hornets.. he needs to add raid to his fancy tool bag for the summer seaosn! I also always put a meter on each leg before I replace a contactor.. unfortunately ive seen outside disconnects bypassed internally! do you guys foam the coils or just rinse down? Zilla did good! he wasnt afraid to dig in even though you were prodding him.. thats Huge.. alot of guys woulda walked... +1 for Zilla!

[@northernliving2387]

Mikey what was the name of that book?

[@edcicione]

The lost art of steam heating by Dan Holohan

[@DetectingArizona]

Honestly, you should tease/test your help/workers. it helps to develop critical thinking, double thinking your thought process throughout the job. Makes you think, "what would (Mikey or any boss) catch/look at that im not seeing? i think he did ok, definitely needs to get one system at a time, killing all thermostats before you mess with a condenser. You might not have 24V coming in when you start working on a system, but if that thermostat starts calling and you accidently short it out. Like the Doc said, its gonna be a long day. Just keep working hard!

[@derekmc9580]

I just pull the low voltage from the Contactor and put some electrical tape over them so they don’t short till im done with the repair.

[@edcicione]

I disconnect from the wire nuts and cap it.

[@atlasfueloilinc.2421]

Ok Steven gets points because he did catch it was a single pole contractor when Mikey stated a 2 pole contactor. An obvious mistake Steven may have gotten lucky but, (right is right). Mounting controls is finesse and comes with experience. But I didn’t see Steven double check with stupid stick before disconnecting wires. Overall good job Steven.

[@altyndom7039]

Those 24 volts are wire utter take it off and play all you want with that contractor.

[@michaelmcewan5074]

If there’s 24 volts at the coil, the disconnect is pulled, so no high voltage, and the plastic cover shows single pole contactor “shunt”. What the hell is wrong with the contactor? It’s pulled in like it’s supposed to be. Love you Mikey Pipes and Godzilla but damn.

[@KrisFarquharPlumbingnHeating]

well done steven, u handled that great, great wee test mike its the best way they learn n steven read up on all yur books , there not for roach material lol always test the voltage is there then kill it , never ever chance it ,,,,, never play operation

[@User-pb8pd]

When I'm ready for AC, I'm gonna call you all. I'm just 1 hour away 😁 In a perfect world I'd use a mini-split system hyper heat which isn't a DIY.

[@User-pb8pd]

@@PipeDoctor Of course. One hours worth!

[@mackenziegray2090]

I want you as my teacher 😆

[@realestateservicessaleshea99]

Go to school.(formal) It's not gonna make you a master but E over I/R Will stick with you forever even if you forget it .😂 Stay safe. Retired keyboard super tech. Wear your safety glasses.

[@yakkiebush5671]

You go Godzilla,you tell em,got ya .lmao It’s the only way to learn is by doing it not watching all the time👍 Mickey you bad making him nervous 😬 Mike where did you get that nutdriver on the drill.I’m in Canada

[@craighvac1808]

Sadly I'm thinking the rheem is going to win, without a doubt

[@craighvac1808]

@@PipeDoctor cant work like that , you already know the outcome

[@benjamintimmins1656]

This reminds me of you and Kelvin lol

[@edcicione]

I agree it would have been easier with a nut driver.