Vi and Jayce TEAMUP?! | Arcane Fiancé Reaction | Ep 8 "Oil and Water”

Following the EXPLOSIVE end to last episode, Vi can only watch as Silco takes Jinx. After an attempt to convince the council that Silco is a threat and must be dealt with, Vi realizes there is only one way out of this situation: punching. All the while Victor worsens and Jayce is sent further and further down the war path. Things are looking TERRIBLE, but we can't WAIT to see what happens next in this incredible series!
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[@LettsReact]

ALL OF ARCANE POSTED TO PATREON NOW! HTTPS://Patreon.com/LettsReact Also, EPISODE 1 of OWL HOUSE, DRAGON PRINCE, and YOUNG JUSTICE posted now!

[@bryanmcclure2220]

Young justice

[@0Defensor0]

Can I vote for all 3 of them? I know I'm not helping, but all of them are great! Maybe start with Dragon Prince, if you're lucky the fourth season will be available by the time you finish the first three.

[@kimjulyn9601]

I would love if you guys watch the owl house

[@poopsock411]

OWL HOUSE 🤩🤩🤩

[@JerkyD]

Of the shows listed at 1:20, I'm most hopeful for TOH. I'm still hopeful for "Harley Quinn" & "Camp Cretaceous", both of which also have lots of good action, representation, & discussion content for a psych major ;) I also recommend AppleTV+'s "Prehistoric Planet", a new "Planet Earth"-type series w/music by Hans Zimmer, narration by David Attenborough, & the best CGI dinos/prehistoric animals you've ever seen (which would greatly complement CC).

[@evilsforreals4903]

"Is he gonna fall into the shimmer?" *collides with the ground like a cannonball* "Nah i think he's just dead"

[@joshhignett8186]

Lol

[@gmcanepa]

I love that when Victor runs, there's boats in the back. The first time we see him try to run, as a child, he is chasing his toy boat.

[@Hohum37]

... and that in the flashback he stumbles and the boat gets away from him, but in the later scene he's overtaking the boats

[@HaydrogenBomb24]

@@Hohum37 Exactly. This show is SHEER GENIUS

[@TheAutisticBrewer]

If you watch that scene and don't cry at the fact that "he finally beat the boat"... you ain't human.

[@TechnoArpan]

@@TheAutisticBrewer I teared up so hard

[@ALJ9000]

@@TheAutisticBrewer I never tear up at anything in a fictional setting. I think I have a disassociation going on with that

[@taesto3204]

Caitlyns dad really told Caitlyn to go rest, knowing damn well the girl she just brought over is waiting in her room, he knows whats up.

[@HaydrogenBomb24]

Dads make the best wingmen

[@mathies3598]

Well i still think they just rested

[@Sassynbluntaf]

In his childhood, Victor couldn't chase his boat. Now he's outrunning one in the background.

[@HaydrogenBomb24]

Caitlin's mom barging in on her and Vi breaking into her house is still the FUNNIEST scene in the show thus far 🤣🤣🤣

[@CrazeeAdam]

Feel like it's a very relatable moment for many LGBTQ+ people watching. And maybe just relatable in general to anyone who's had a "secret" relationship or a boyfriend/girlfriend that they weren't ready to introduce to their parents. The expressions on Vi and Cait say everything. Probably not the first time Cait has done that either

[@elheber]

And the way she refers to Vi as her "friend".

[@iSmartMan1]

Fun fact: according to the writers, this isn't the first time Caitlyn snuck a girl into her room through the window ;)

[@TheAyme83]

@@iSmartMan1 so the cupcakes on the balcony are a proto-trap... For girls? Now we know how she had the idea of her yordle trap.

[@The_Price_Shippers_Have_To_Pay]

Caitlyn's Mom: *Barges in with a gun like she was outside the whole time* Caitlyn and Vi: *Surprised Pikachu face*

[@Marta-uv4id]

Don't you just love it when you and the girl you have totally platonic feelings for have an intense breakup in the rain before you even get together?

[@HaydrogenBomb24]

And then the one who got left behind recounts said platonic friend's departure in the shower, in reverse?

[@LadyDoomsinger]

My favorite bit was when they platonically looked deep into each other's eyes while platonically caressing each other's faces.

[@GaranNoDou298]

@@HaydrogenBomb24 Thinking about your bestie in a hot shower is the best form of platonic friendship there is.

[@nathi060200]

Vi: *does anything Both of them: *deeply blushes

[@Hohum37]

The transition from the most tender moment in the show, to the most grotesque, is so jarring, and so perfect. (Caitlyn gently touching Vi's face / Jinx contorted in torment.)

[@TheAyme83]

One of the best transition I've seen.

[@diego3]

The fact that you both explode everytime Vi just does something it's hilarious and relatable

[@HaydrogenBomb24]

These two both being bi makes watching them simp for characters VERY entertaining 😄

[@marcusolarte3764]

The rain scene says that Vi’s and Cait’s relationship is oil and water, two things that can’t mix; however, the shower scene suggests that they’re actually blood and water, two things that can mix - just some food for thought 🥰

[@Krusesensei]

Can mix - if you are hurt enough?!

[@user-pt5cl2ro6f]

@@Krusesensei LMAO

[@mathies3598]

Blood & water, blue&red

[@strawberrylemonade8799]

Why is everyone so hot in this show?? Even minor characters like Sevika. Everyone is so ATTRACTIVE WTH. Like, Vi?? Mel?? Caitlyn??? Jayce? Y’all have NO business being this pretty wtf. The eyes, the hair, the attitude. I’m in love.

[@realKhalilG]

Arcane! We've got milfs, we've got dilfs. We've got twinks and we've got petites!

[@italianspiderman5012]

Because it’s nice to look at pretty people and things,something that Hollywood forgot about.

[@HaydrogenBomb24]

That's French animators for ya

[@JamesHeller-if5kg]

@@italianspiderman5012 what do you mean by something Hollywood forgot about????

[@italianspiderman5012]

@@JamesHeller-if5kg because in today’s wonderful world of Hollywood you are a sexist and an incel if you’re enjoying looking at beautiful women, “sexy” is a no no too, because apparently it’s toxic and sexualising of women is somehow bad, but only women, it’s ok to do it to men.

[@sweetiebella2571]

I love how Silco very clearly cares about Jinx a lot

[@zavs350]

Same. Read somewhere that it's what having a kid does to you, you just become softer as a person.

[@gazelle_diamond9768]

Yeah.... like you care about your most valuable and irreplaceable tool.

[@th3voice]

@@gazelle_diamond9768 I own a lot of tools. Some I've bought recently, but some are heirlooms from my grandfather, tools he made with his own hands. I love those as much as anyone can reasonably love a tool. Yet somehow, whenever one of them has gotten damaged or scuffed, I have never, not ONCE, kissed them on the forehead. If you think Silco cares about Jinx only, or even mostly, because of her utility to him, you are looking at some things in a very prejudiced manner - because Jinx has not been very useful to him at all, and he KNOWS this. She has been a net detriment to him by causing turmoil in his crew, killing several Enforcers during her little heist (which HE in turn had to spend time, money and effort defusing with Marcus), and causing him concern. Not to mention she downright assaulted him last episode. We just saw Silco, groggy from having been drugged unconscious, pick up a scalpel and threaten Singed out of the mere worry that he had failed to save Jinx' life... and Singed has been not just useful, but INVALUABLE, to Silco's operation. If he's willing to do THAT to an ally that valuable, it seems entirely unreasonable to even THINK that he would remain seated while Jinx stabs him in the cheeks just because he thinks she might prove useful some day. Heck... if Sevika had done something like that, he would have had her killed without a second thought. Silco's outlook on Jinx' future potential is not glee that she'll be able to be useful to him... it's a parent's pride that she is growing and becoming all that she can be. Only a parent would indulge her the way he does.

[@gazelle_diamond9768]

@@th3voice It's impressive that the writing of this show is so good the obviously evil and manipulative villain still manages to fool some of the audience into believing him.

[@th3voice]

@@gazelle_diamond9768 Not sure if you're just a troll... regardless, you're not presenting any ideas or points, so I'm going to ignore you.

[@soulstice94]

A common and very probable fan theory about the monster story Vi told Cait is that the real monster that showed up wasn't Silco, it was herself when she hit Powder and demeaned her with the "Jinx" title. There's so many little details that if you go over them again, or watch some breakdowns of the episodes/characters etc that it's absolutely mind blowing at how much love and care they put into this series. For example the scene of Viktor running for the first time: in the background are boats, a call back to him with his toy boat that he could keep up with as a kid, now Viktor is running past the boats in background.

[@Hohum37]

I agree with this theory - the monster was her own anger. She's had many years to consider this.

[@Fangtorn]

I personally don't buy that theory. It's clear that Vi has a lot of guilt and remorse for what she did to Powder, but I don't think she sees herself as a monster, nor do I think the show is trying to suggest she's one. To me Vi tells Caitlyn the monster story as a way of saying what happened to Powder _was_ her fault because she didn't protect Powder from Silco. Silco is her monster and part of her determination to take him down is to make up for running away the first time.

[@Real_Genji]

I thought the monster was the LITERAL monster which was the blond kid on Shimmer who killed Benzo

[@soulstice94]

I see both Vi and Silco as the monsters being a pretty valid view point. I personally think the point of the escalating monster story was to hint that Vi feels that she was the monster, except instead of being able to chase imaginary monsters away, she couldn't chase herself away to save Powder in that moment. When she punch Powder, and saw the blood on her hand, she had a very clear moment of realization of what she had just done and I don't doubt for a second that she wouldn't think of herself as a monster for what she did. I also don't believe the monster she was talking about was the Shimmer punk kid as when he showed up Vi didn't run she tried to fight him, then Shimmer'd Vander killed him before the building collapsed.

[@n0bleonline222]

@@Fangtorn Recall the line Silco said in Deckar in Chapter 2. "There's a monster inside all of us." In that moment, Violet brought out the beast within.

[@brunoalves-pg9eo]

Wow, I never thought about the Pink and Blue in respect to Shimmer and Hextech (and not the obvious Vi and Cait), and it makes a lot of sense that Viktor, someone that uses both, has a purple theme. That's a great observation.

[@TheAyme83]

If I remember well, the completed hex core is orange. He still could add another form of "chimic-magic" to achieve the core... Maybe something to do with the green liquid that Singed use in the game? It could be interesting to explore it in the second season.

[@UncleMilo]

1. I'm not sure if you guys recognized Skye as the young girl who we saw very briefly in Victor's flashback. He's known her all his life pretty much and she came from the Undercity like he did. 2. A tiny detail I love is when Caitlyn's mother motions for her to go after Caitlyn when she leaves. I love the Caitlyn/Vi relationship... and that moment when Vi really opens up and tells Caitlyn about their time as children is just another sweet moment. Love them both so much!

[@FrizFroz]

21:35 My favorite scene of the entire series. Beyond the glorious fights, beyond the politicking and the drama, is a man finding that he can run for the first time - only for his world to be swept off his feet just moments later.

[@SwordTune]

The Vi panic is too real.

[@Specter177]

I have to cast my vote for The Owl House. Y'all will absolutely love it.

[@wyattchandler6359]

God yes.

[@Blanca-qt3kh]

seconded!!

[@HaydrogenBomb24]

Here here!

[@vee._x]

YESSSS

[@violetkerridge4154]

Fifthed!

[@johnnysomething153]

Kenny so perfectly explained why Silco isn’t using Jinx but just wants what’s best for her even if he is immoral etc. It’s so fun watching them express their differing opinions on shows I really hope this happens more

[@klydemeneses5559]

@امير مادرا no wonder there's always war in your country, I hope you'll be one of those cannon fodders during the war xd

[@shayasims]

silco is 100% using her for his own gain, he just happened to grow fond of her, if he actually cared he would not continuously try to erase vi from her life or encourage her to be jinx instead of powder lol honestly i’m concerned for people who cant see through silco

[@boggless2771]

​@@shayasims Silco knows, just as well as everyone else, what Sivika said. Jinx is about ask good for their cause as she was for her family. He later says, "What do I lose but problems". The only thing Jinx did that was beneficial was getting the hextech gem, and even then its debatable bc it brought a ton of unwanted attention.

[@KingVasuki]

@@shayasims because Silco is damaged, as well: he sees Vi as what Vander was to him, a betraying sibling that only brings painful memories. And, in a way, he's right: every interaction with Vi makes Jinx hurt. Is it healthier to just bury the feeling and, instead, nurture Jinx's socio and psychopathic nature? No, but that's Silco's love language.

[@shayasims]

@@KingVasuki uh every interaction with vi makes jinx hurt because silco lied to her …

[@Dannydarko27]

"I wish they would've given me something when you went into surgery" The fact that Singed had to drug Silco is proof enough that Silco loves his adopted daughter.

[@Marta-uv4id]

I'm so glad we finally get more insight into Mel. Before this episode anyone could have easily placed Mel under a label of someone that was just manipulating everyone around them for their own gain, and while it's true that Mel set the game up so the outcome turns out to be beneficial for her, she also genuinely does want to avoid conflict. We all asumed that she wanted to start a war between Piltover and Zaun when she asked Viktor and Jayce to build Hextech weapons, but the scenes that truly changed my mind on that were the opening scene with her mother and the scene with the Council. Mel's 'sentimentality' that got her banished was truly on full display there, especially when talking about war. I really hope there's more of her in season 2 because it would truly be a waste if that wasn't the case.

[@HaydrogenBomb24]

Agreed. Not to mention the introduction of her mom, who became one of my favorite characters in only two episodes.

[@filipeoliveiraladislau4533]

as Elora says about her contacts on foreing countries "pilover looks vunerable", evem P1 she was alread the most rich and influential singular person on piltover and began prepare to the international stage.

[@Calder90]

I really love Mel, she's a great character and she provides some much needed nuance to Noxus. I can't wait to see more of Noxus in season 2. I really hope they introduce Swain.

[@FlatMarssSociety]

@@Calder90 They might introduce Camille as another villain too. Along with some of the minor clan leaders and chem barons now that there are power vacuums in both Zaun and Piltover.

[@theBSDude44]

Victor has a couple things going on. His leg problem is something he's had since childhood, and it stayed basically the same; but his lung issue is a degenerative condition that's only gotten debilitatingly bad recently. He tested the mutation on his leg, because losing the leg wouldn't kill him before his lungs did. He only tried replacing his lungs after he knew it worked.

[@iSmartMan1]

Owl House please! It's an incredibly well-written show and deserves as much attention as possible.

[@HaydrogenBomb24]

You said it

[@thecakeracha]

I was going to comment the same 🤭💖

[@iSmartMan1]

@@thecakeracha Do it, they might count it as a separate vote

[@kathansell4179]

absolutely!! owl house is one of my top 5 shows and i would love to watch y’all react and pick it apart

[@theredhorn]

I going to say them same thing

[@TooKorky]

13:34 The Viktor running thing was him finally for the first time in his life being able to run like a normal person as shown in his backstory where he tries to run and he trips. Its a cathartic release for him and pushes him into going further and doing more culminating in this scene where it all goes bad

[@TheAyme83]

Yes, and without that, he still was condemned. He had to try it on his chest anyway. The first attempt only had cured his leg.

[@slip-n-slide4807]

So I just realized something about that scene with Jinx hallucinating while getting injected with shimmer.. in the part where she visualizes Caitlyn while Singed is telling her "I'm afraid this will only get worse," I always thought it was just her mind making her believe Caitlyn was enjoying torturing her.. but then I realized that even tho Singed was trying to save her, he also probably remembers that she's the one that caused the explosion that burnt his entire body, making him be more ruthless during the process even if it did end up reviving her...

[@Uzkodas]

I’m not going to lie, Ma Madarda has some serious “death by snu snu” energy.

[@Kunoichi4ever4]

My read on Silco is that he does care and in his own way love Jinx. The issue is, he has is own abandonment issues which i think show in this episode - where he is willing to do anything to keep her alive, but also previously where Vi coming back scared him to death, coz he knows he could lose Jinx coz of her. I think him and Jinx actually love in a very similar way, very strong but very selfish types of love. Jinx cannot handle the existence of Caitlin coz she is a threat to take her sister away, Silco cant handle Vi coz she is a threat to take Jinx away.

[@RizZy28]

The amount of story that there's left to tie up in the last ep is ridiculous, even more so the fact that they manage to do it so well. What a great show.

[@Marta-uv4id]

The choice to have a huge action scene that makes your blood pump and has a song to hype you up, amazing choreography and animation to just end it abruptly by having one of our main characters end the life of a child was absolutely brutal. It really makes the fact that all of the workers in Silco's Shimmer factories are children hit so much harder and is the entire reason for all of Jayce's actions in the final episode.

[@AzNightmare]

*Are we supposed to be leaving spoilers in the comments? Or I guess they don't read the comments.*

[@Marta-uv4id]

@@AzNightmare They already watched the episode. In fact, they've already watched the entire season.

[@kenjutsukata1o1]

Not all of the workers are children, we saw adults too. But that doesn't change the truth of what you said.

[@chrisdang2927]

Loved the parallel of Viktor couldn’t run after the toy boat when he was younger and now being able to run with the boats in the background. Sky (his lab assistance) was also the the girl in his backstory. You can hear other kids calling her name.

[@JOfnT]

I would absolutely ADORE an Owl House watch through by you two. I think y’all would love it, and I think it would open up many folks to a series they might not have checked out!!

[@paulg5507]

I love how they make us question ourselves after the Vi and Jace battle scene. We cheer for them but once the kid dies we feel guilty for doing so and are confronted with how war always has the innocent suffer the most. So the battle isn't glorified in any way

[@toamszkozak8822]

A Little background of a region that Mel comes from, she is from Noxus and Noxus is known for a strenght and absorbing nations, this is probably what you saw in the beggining of this episode Noxus attacked some nation and the girl that was killed was some kind of ruler, Noxus values strenght over anything, you prove that you are strong enough and they will gave you everything

[@T0RSE]

the guy mel's mom was uh.. "sampling" was actually called Local Cuisine in the files

[@20000dino]

6:05 I know what Kenny meant, but I don’t think he explained it well enough to Montana (which was frustrating because I used to think like her until nearly the end of the show). What truly matters above all is how every single time Jinx causes him trouble, Silco will still ALWAYS deflect blame to someone else, whether that is Sevika or Marcus. Not once did Jinx do as it was expected of her - in fact, the repercussions of her actions are astronomical and sometimes far out-weight the benefits provided -, and yet, she’s still Silco’s number one. Sevika and Marcus are constantly pointing this out (“she’s a problem and we all know it”; “she’s gone too far this time”), for which Silco dismisses and even threatens them. Those aren’t the actions of someone who only sees you as a tool. Those are the actions of someone who loves you. This is clearly a discussion that the show wants to be had (thus, I'm happy that Kenny and Montana disagree at the moment), and, ultimately, I think the answer is a mix of Silco recognizing her potential as both a tool, and as a human being - who he deeply relates to and loves for it.

[@n0bleonline222]

++👍👍

[@trueblaze84]

Just realized the council meeting is the only time in the series Vi calls her sister Jinx. Goes to show the disconnect she has between the two and how she refuses to acknowledge they are one and the same. It wasn't her sister Powder who was responsible, it is as Silco's pet Jinx who did it.

[@ravotheAnimeking]

Mel is such a complicated character when you see what she could have been she said that she did not live up to her family standards a couple of times but to understand what that meant when you see her mom and how ruthless she wanted her daughter to be

[@saiyasha848]

The scene with Heimerdinger and the little girl hurts so much. It shows that This City is _chockful_ of Inventors. This little girl is scrapping and he just ignited her curiosity. Maybe now she'll want to find out how and learn herself. But her mothers mistrust and defnesiveness show us that this will probably be stifled quickly, because when you need to survive, there is no time to explore.

[@Wuffskers]

viktor was trying to transform more of his body the way he did to his leg, also kenny is right on the money about Silco, so many people see Silco as a villain and so they make assumptions about his character and make him more 2 dimensional than he is based on their expectations of what a villain like him would normally be

[@demosteneswiggin5122]

Yes, first season took 6 years but creators already said that second season is not gonna take that much time. Is not gonna be ready for this year, but probably for 2023 or 2024. Since they already have everything that took a big part of that time: backgrounds, character's design, etc. And probably they already had planned and scripted the second season long time ago. Also, on the meantime, you can watch "Bridging The Rift" a Making of Arcane mini documental on League of Legends KZbin channel. It's amazing!

[@timidwolf]

Interesting you have a 'Jayce hasn't been to the undercity' counter despite it being mentioned in the first episode that he has. He bought equipment from Benzo and Ekko followed him home, that's how Ekko got the tip for the heist at the beginning. Surprised you didn't talk about the "real monster" Vi was talking about, because deep down she didn't mean Silco.

[@saiyasha848]

about Silco: I am not sure _he_ sees it as eplotative. He _believes_ in the Nation of Zaun. Everything he does is for the greater good. Whenever he 'uses' Jinx, In his mind she is fighting for a righteos cause. Same with the babtism scene: Silco _believes_ that this will heal her, make her fully Jinx and bury Powder once and for all. He equates his own self with Jinx, which speaks to a certain amount of dissconect, but not malice. He cannot see that Jinx and he are fundamentally different and have very different approaches to trauma. Jinx doesn't care about Zaun. I don't think that has _ever_ been a priority for her. She cares about her immediate surroundings. SHe wants to prove herself to Silco, she _wants_ to be loved and Silco is giving her what she needs in that regard. What she _doesn't_ want is confronting her trauma, which would be waht she _needs_ to do to heal, preferrably with a licenesd Therapist....

[@Mi_Z]

Jinx has always felt a need to prove herself to her family ... be that Vi when she was younger, or Silco currently. When she killed enforcers, it was to prove her worth to her 'family' (again, Silco). And I agree, I see no evidence that she really cared a great deal about Zaun or revolution... and even referred to the gemstone as 'that stupid stone.' Regardless, her little murder sprees are certainly not due to Silco using her as an assassin (which strangely some people still cling to as his motive w/ Jinx). As for confronting her trauma, that'd be nice. Silco could use a therapist as well. Heimerdinger probably should see one too... maybe get a session on how time works and how humans tend to not live forever... Unfortunately the only licensed medical professionals in Zaun are that that toothy potion maker who needs to find a new office after Vi destroyed her neighborhood... and Dr Singed and his cave of horrors.

[@Starrider.]

my favourite unobvious small facts about this episode, that I only noticed after 3rd time viewing: The girl, that spoted Victor as a boy, as he was playing with his boat was called by the name "Sky!". Also the genius parallel of him not being able to outrun his toy-boat as a kid (running from left to right of the screen) compaired to the scene here, where he runs (from right to left) against the parallax effect of ships in the background falling behind! I mean, that's just so poetic

[@ivansmoll4818]

Victor's run is one of my personal favorite moments in the entire season. So simple yet beautifully composed.

[@CrazeeAdam]

So Silco loves Jinx as much as he can as a father. But note, that he probably NEVER had a caring family either. That's not something that is ever looked into in this show, it's not something that is discussed, but we can guess through how he treats others in general, and where he is now, his family life was never great either. It is DIFFICULT, although not impossible to be a good father, without having a good upbringing yourself. Like I said, it's not impossible to be a good person and good parent, but it is more difficult. (A real life example of someone who turned out to be a good father to his children without having a good upbringing is Eminem). So I think Silco genuinely tries to show her love and care, the best ways he knows how. Not only is she in a high position in his faction, but he takes special care of her, pretty much gives her the freedom to do whatever she wants for the most part, lets her get away with more than he would others (where he would just probably kill others if they did the things Jinx does with him), trusts her 100% with both dangerous, and sensitive things he wouldn't let others know or do. Not only that, but he gives her guidance when needed, confidence when needed, and stern words as well when she does do something that is over the line. So Tl;dr, Silco trusts Jinx, cares for her, and loves her, but may not show it in traditional ways as he himself is a broken person with a hard past.

[@LS-tk7hp]

actually season 2 is already done being animated, you should watch ARCANE-BRDIGING THE RIFT which is a 5 part making of documentary on leagues youtube channel, which also goes into detail as to why this show took so long (finding the right people for certain things, the show not being green lit that fast and almost canceled, and fortiche also needed more time to develop their animation style/system, etc) and is also worth it because it gives more context to the effort that went into this from the beginning) and at some point in part 5 they say that season 2 is done being animated so editing, sound etc will take some time but since fortiche already figured out the animation its not like they start completely from scratch which is why it "only" took them a year to animate the second season (also they had to massively hire for arcane and season 2 was pretty quickly announced and green lit so they probably will keep the staff, saving them even more time)- im guessing some time 2023 probably later down the year but id be surprised if it released in 2024

[@silver9wolf6]

Wow, they're done animating already? I thought they were just done writing 😀

[@LS-tk7hp]

​@@silver9wolf6 in episode 5 of briding the rift at 17:08 they mention that theyre on the trip visiting fortiche trying to lock down the final episodes of season 2 (if you didnt know fortiche is the animation studio behind arcane, if im not wrong everything else is done in house with riot games)

[@silver9wolf6]

@@LS-tk7hp Ok, I remember that part! I just thought they were still in the story phase since the scene after is Alex and Amanda talking about figuring out the season ending. I think they still consult with Fortiche before they start animating so Riot can make sure what they're proposing is possible :) But I'm sure they're getting closer now 🤞Hopefully a release next year! 😃

[@vee._x]

I'm voting for the owl house, it's such a good show and is definitely worth the watch

[@MTG_Scribe]

If it helps when deciding the next show to watch, Netflix just announced a new season of Dragon Prince coming in November. It's a fantastic show, and you could be right in time for it to drop!

[@bcalriss8906]

It’s good timing

[@kenjutsukata1o1]

It might be hard to go to a beautifully animated show like Arcane to a show with really sub-par animation. Maybe they should wait a few shows before watching in order to avoid quality whiplash.

[@andre7869]

I just realized that sky was going to talk to viktor because she had a project in mind and she wanted his opinion, so what the heck was she working on??? I hope they reveal it in season 2

[@LettsReact]

Comment below which series we should watch next: -Owl House -Dragon Prince -Young Justice Comments count as votes!!

[@zagnose]

Owl House imo

[@caseyurich9190]

The Owl House

[@sweetiebella2571]

Owl House

[@Purple_Cat9]

Dragon Prince

[@alexlegault835]

I vote for Owl house, I think you'll both enjoy it.

[@LuciousLoire]

Singed mentioned that nature has man intolerant to change but the variant shimmer Singed gave to Victor gives them the capacity to change. The first time Victor injected himself with the variant shimmer it allowed him to survivie the first transmutation but since Victor didn't have anymore of the variant shimmer, I'm guessing it used up Sky's life force to keep Victor alive through that whole transmutation process, something like equivalant exchange.

[@Pilek01]

Silco has those 2 buff guys with him but he decides to carry Jinx himself. Shame that you did not notice it.

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

That’s a great point

[@Jason_N7]

That thing with Victor was so powerful, it actually caused a power outage. Talk about immersion!

[@JamesHeller-if5kg]

lol right

[@griffinhatchling]

Viktors first transformation was with the shimmer variant and runes in his leg. At his second transformation attempt he carved runes all over his body and arms but was out of shimmer and the hex-core would have killed him, but then Skye, his assistant, came in contact with him and the core took the energy from her, evaporating her to dust. In the end it was just enough energy to transform his right hand. So Skye, his assistant, literally became his right hand. 🤯

[@katiepie6529]

for the next series my vote would hands down be Owl House, i think yall would love it and with the finale of it coming out soon it would be the perfect time to start the series as it will bring in more people who are freshly watching the finale and wanting to see other people reacting.

[@shanedonnelly729]

Oil and water can actually mix with the introduction of an emulsifier and I think that might be a metaphor throughout the show. Piltover and Zaun, Vi and Caitlyn, Hextech and Shimmer, none of them "should" work together as we find them in nature. I'm hoping with the introduction of the right conditions, they can and we can enjoy all the amazing characters getting a happy ending 😅

[@gabbyestrera6452]

THE OWL HOUSE IS AMAZINGGGG

[@parzivalkni110]

My vote is for you guys watching owl house out of those choices., I would also suggest watching The Sandman, as in my opinion it is up there with Arcane as one of the best shows ever!

[@procrastinator99]

YES ON THE OWL HOUSE!!! I'm a 35 year old man, and I think its awesome, if that says anything.

[@nikolettolar523]

Have to cast a vote for the Dragon prince and the Owl House. You're gonna love both of them.

[@NeahMinto88]

Oil and water can mix with an emulsifier

[@markdaniel3084]

Viktor didn't catch his toy boat but now he surpasses the boat vessel in the background

[@LadyDoomsinger]

I love how, when Finn says Sevika is "a scary lady" - Sevika just looks up at him... all scary-like.

[@caoimhecoady5783]

Owl house is my vote! 🦉🏠

[@nicolebelov4766]

I think you guys will love owl house especially the development in season 2

[@val63994]

DEFINETLEY OWL HOUSE THE LORE IS INSANE

[@dominiccaciappo970]

I am sure someone has already said this, but the entire arcane production was extremely interesting and Riot has a great like 5 part documentary - basically it took 6 years to make but they should be able to put out 2023 if not 2024, they got the process down, riot had to learn how to become a show runner, the studio had to upsize from making music videos to full lengthy episodes, so really the 6 years wasn't exactly creating season 1 of course, it was a lot of things because it was very experimental and pushing into an area that doesn't usually yield success

[@CULeeisMe]

I think Young Justice is a great show. In particular, they handle the aging and maturing of their heroes very well, imo.

[@Deadpoetsociety.]

Definitely recommend the owl house as well as the dragon prince but you should start with the owl house especially with season 3 coming out in october

[@maianaflor8308]

I just know how much you guys are gonna love The Owl House, it’s my comfort show rn 🥰🥰

[@Moon-wy2co]

I always thought it was funny that people hate Jayce because of his decisions and way of thinking when vi one of the most loved characters has almost the same way of thinking

[@hawkins347]

Except that Jayce learns Vander's lesson really quickly and tries to do the same thing Vander did - make a deal with the other side to avoid more bloodshed. Vi is not there yet, she wants to fight whatever it takes. It's ironic that she says Silco will never back down when that's very much her approach as well.

[@km9833]

Its not exactly the same since vi actually lived in the impoverished side while Jayce has only lived with privilege. I think that makes all the difference really, plus Jayce is actually in a position of power to change things ( and tbf he does try but he's to naive about what actually goes on in the undercity until its too late). I think that's my main problem with Jayce cause unlike a similar naive character like Caitlyn, he's been friends with Viktor for years but somehow is still blind about the horrors of the undercity.

[@Moon-wy2co]

@@km9833 obviously they come from different places but that doesn't automatically mean that their way of doing things are good because they are or aren't from a privilege standpoint, also Jayce has only been in the committee for like a few months and immediately when he sees something is wrong he stops doing it, in just a year he started seeing dead people, being one of the most important people in the city, getting a handful of information hard to process and more, I think honestly think he handled things so much better than majority of people

[@brenoborba5433]

the next show has to be owl house. it's so good

[@Poosley]

1: I love the USA theme counter (worth noting this is also true of other nations but, point is well taken and accurate) 2: I'm almost positive I've said this before but lots of people have segway'd from this show, to a video "The world of Riot's MMO is already complete" by Necrit. I do not play League, I do not want to. But I became infinitely fascinated by the lore, after this show (the gray areas, the themes of duality and nuance). (Not spoilering)- it's not in the video but for example, Singed (the bald doctor)'s lore is fascinating. The video I mentioned is a great (but shallow) overview of the whole world, of Runeterra, and a glimpse into each major city. To quote creators of the show "I could see myself telling stories in this world for 30 years". And the lore really backs that up. There's a lot to love in this universe- super-popular MOBA game with an imfamously toxic fanbase be damned.

[@FallenOne669]

The bridge scene is what made Silco consciously realize he cares about Jinx. Before that, he likely explained away his feelings for her as recognition of her skill and intellect. Edit: To clarify, I am not saying Silco did not care for Jinx before the bridge. I am saying he did not CONSCIOUSLY REALIZE that he did until he saw his daughter dying on the ground.

[@Hohum37]

I think he cared about her from the time he accepted her in episode three. Why else raise a child he was planning on killing, who has no particular utility? It may be the first time he realizes how much he cares about her though.

[@FallenOne669]

@@Hohum37 He cared for her like a skilled subordinate. At least, that's how he justified it to himself. It wasn't until he saw her dying on the bridge that Silco's thoughts went from; -"She is a genius."- To; "She is my daughter."

[@Mi_Z]

The evidence doesn't really support that, to be honest. We can see how he treats her in episode 4... different than Sevika. He expresses concern for her in a fatherly way in the previous episode where he wanted to go look for her. He has knick-knacks on his desk, a mug and ashtray, made by a younger Powder with her designs on them ... very much like a father would. It's not like he viewed her simply as a tool, or just appreciated her skills/intellect. If that was the case, he would have treated her in a very different manner previously. And he'd probably not undermine his crimeboss persona in front of his underlings with a Jinx-y coffee mug sitting right on his desk. -- SPOILERS -- If you have watched the entire show, you can see how he really feels about Jinx. There are multiple scenes demonstrating his love for her in the final episode. To say he just 'all of a sudden' realized he cared for Jinx, after 7 years of raising her, and after everything in the final episode... well, that'd be nonsensical.

[@FallenOne669]

@@Mi_Z Silco never CONSCIOUSLY realized he cared for Jinx until the bridge. It was always there subconsciously but seeing her dying broke down any walls he had from that realization hitting him full force.

[@govind.m86]

I completely agree. I feel like up until the day he died he didn't quite understand fully what he was doing. He was caring for her on autopilot. The bridge followed by Jayce's ultimatum later brought his character to completion.

[@DarkRaven4649]

It's not that Viktor has to recharge - rather, he did his "test run" with only his leg. You can see in the previous episode that he engraves the runes on the leg brace and nowhere else. In this one? All over his body. He intended to fuse his *entire body* with Hexcore magic, and heal himself completely, now that he knew it worked. And, desperate after a whole life of being crippled, threw caution to the wind and decided to try without the shimmer.

[@Moskarth]

I’ve watched this show so many times and never noticed jinx was actually behind catlyn in the bathroom with her glowing eyes haha

[@yate0128]

Fingers crossed for Owl House

[@Spacehog1981]

Mel's mom, as nasty as she is, immediately assessed the situation in Piltover and predicted what would happen. The carrot works great when it works. Sometimes the stick is the only tool for the job though.

[@Marta-uv4id]

The entire reason Silco is as nuanced and praised as a character so much is that he is shown to *genuinely love* Jinx. He is a bad father and even worse man, but his love for Jinx is genuine, despite how twisted and toxic it is for both of them. I feel like the writers did him a great service by not having him betray and leave Jinx once she was no longer useful to him just because 'he's the bad guy and that's what bad guys do.' I absolutely despise him as a person but he is absolutely one of the best characters of the show.

[@hotshotgamer1176]

Once again casting a vote for The Owl House. Fun and imaginative animated show with a bunch of fun twists to the formula of its premise. Great characters and overarching story that I think both of y'all will find plenty to analyze and talk about as you go.

[@kelseyoconnor3951]

24:15 HAHAHA It was so funny to see that the power outage happened while this moment happened lol

[@The_Sigillite]

Can I just take a second to highlight how well they write men and women in this show. We get a full range of personality types, strong to meek, on both sides, and yet they still feel like men and women. No one feels like a gender-flipped characature of what someone thinks a meek man or strong woman should be, they're just themselves, they fit, and I love it.

[@kenjutsukata1o1]

The worst thing about Mama Medarda's decision to kill the girl? She was probably right. History is FULL of examples of conquerors showing mercy to the former depot, only for them to come back later as the leader of a rebellion. So she's not wrong about only one needing to die vs potential thousands. It's the fucked up reality of a warfaring state. Also, being a warfaring state in the first place is fucked up, but that's another discussion entirely. Oh, an addon: It's not even necessarily the old leader's fault for the rebellion. An example is Toyotomi Hideyori from early 17th century Japan. He was the son of the former leader of Japan, and the one who took over (Tokugawa Ieyasu) allowed him to live and simply sent him away (Hideyori was a young child when it all went down). However, over time a bunch of the prominent lords who had been on the losing side when Tokugawa took over began to rally behind the grown-up Hideyori, using him as their symbolic right to rebel. Hideyori seems to have been pretty hesitant about the whole thing, but he ended up being the lords' excuse to begin stirrings of rebellion in the name of restoring the Toyotomi to their 'rightful' place as leaders of Japan. Tokugawa saw what was happening and deliberately provoked Hideyori in order to get him to take a stance, and he ended up choosing rebellion. Thus Tokugawa had two of the last great sieges of the era. In the end he was victorious, Hideyori committed seppuku, and Tokugawa had Hideyori's wife and children killed to avoid any future problems of the same sort from occurring. Fucked up, yet his decision led to 250 years of peace in Japan. Another addon: *spoilers for last episode* the Council was wrong, but so was Vi. She was blinded by her own perception and hatred of Silco, and her desire to get Powder back. She said that Silco couldn't be talked to, and yet in the very next episode he goes to negotiations with Jayce. Not only that, but if it wasn't for the demand of turning over Jinx, Silco probably would have gone through with it. So, while it's easy to side with Vi, since she's basically the main character (along with Jinx), she's actually very much wrong there. She doesn't care about what's best for the undercity in that meeting, she just wants Silco to get taken down so she can get her sister back. And as the real kicker, the *only* reason Jacye demanded Jinx is because Vi ratted her out to the council. Also, technically Jayce HAS been to the Undercity. It started the whole plot, in fact. He went down to Benzo's shop to buy illegal stuff for his experiments, leading to Little Man giving Vi the tip to rob him.

[@Mi_Z]

-- SPOILERS -- "And as the real kicker, the only reason Jacye demanded Jinx is because Vi ratted her out to the council" Yep, and I have yet to see a single reactor comment in their videos when Vi gives up her sister's name. It's a betrayal... but for whatever reason most people just let it slide. I guess because Vi is coded as the hero, so it's assumed she is 'right'. Pretty much everything she did at that council meeting was wrong. Her plan was stupid, she was wrong about Silco negotiating, and by giving up her sister's name, she, well, put her on the council's radar. She was blinded by her hatred of Silco. And the thing is, I can't say she was even doing it to get her sister back at that point -- I mean what was her plan, to bring down Silco, get her sister back (somehow)... then since she ratted out her sister, watch her get arrested and rot in jail? It's not like the council is going to let it slide just because Vi called her 'Jinx' instead of 'Powder'. Somehow I doubt that works as a defense in a court of law.

[@matilda5734]

I need to express my vote towards the owl house! i recently rewatched it and its just my favourite show ever. It definitely feels like a kids show for the first couple of episodes (heavy handed morals imo) but once the plot kicks in it is just amazing. I think you guys will really enjoy it.

[@Zapporah85]

When Silco runs towards Jinx, it zooms on his human eye, not the mechanical one. I think that's a deliberate choice to show how vital she is to what little humanity he has left

[@vee5242]

Owl House or Dragon Prince next please! They both have new seasons starting soon

[@idontcookie]

Montana needs to watch a very specific scene from Dickinson

[@stillcrashlanding]

Viktor did describe his experiments as "transmutation" earlier. Equivalent exchange ain't no joke.

[@andrewmakar2035]

I think Dragon Prince would be a good follow-up. It's got a feel and connection to Avatar (a few references too). Since Avatar is at least where I started watching you guys, it would fit well, plus the characters are very open to analysis, so Montana would have good input. (Owl House is great too though)

[@kylershaw1854]

my vote for the next series to watch is owl house, and I recommend that you look into adding RWBY to the list eventually I think it's worth it.

[@TheZombiecowmeat]

I don't comment much, but just felt the need to remind you guys that you guys are my favorite people to watch react to things

[@Ciercien]

One last note - Mel. Her flashback. Take a second look back. The necklace that falls in the blood after the woman is beheaded. When Mel wakes the painting behind her on her wall (which Im assuming she painted) the imagery that you see as soon as she pops up . Is the image of that necklace. Well the lack of paint in that space. It's in the shape of that necklace which tells you that imagery has haunted her since the moment it happened and it's stuck with her enough that she may be using it in that painting as a reminder of what NOT to do. That war is hell and diplomacy should be considered in all matters. just my thought on that.

[@lackingreacts]

A good parallel to pick up on is in a previous episode there was the scene with Victor as a child putting the boat in the water and running after it. He tripped and fell trying to watch it. But in the scene with him running, off im the distance are are boats in the water and he proceeds to run past them. Which is just a testament to how well this show was written. Great stuff

[@ShoNuff3K]

When Viktor merged with the hexcore thru shimmer, Jayce and Mel were "merging" simultaneously (ep5). When JINX was merging with shimmer thru the doctor, Cait and Vi were "merging" simultaneously. So yeah, they got it on off screen.

[@Malevolent74]

"Bigger fish in what sense?" Tahm kench: "Allow me to introduce maself."

[@raistormrs]

Question, do you think it is a coincidence, that right after he said "there are bigger fish than Silco" it cuts to the Arrival of a Noxian Noble? I think not.

[@TurboSke]

That old counsellor is still working on that child puzzle.

[@thesolitairegambit2556]

I cast my vote for the Queen’s Gambit! ❤

[@jman92091]

Nice

[@thesolitairegambit2556]

@@jman92091 right?😁 I’d love to see Montana’s reaction from her physiological perspective

[@jman92091]

@@thesolitairegambit2556 seeing as Kenny is a Chess Geek I'm sure they've already seen it though

[@thesolitairegambit2556]

@@jman92091 ohh no 😭

[@LilRedWitch]

Found your channel and I love every second of this analysis. I love your commentary and how you take time to discuss themes. BEAUTiful couple as well. I wish you the best