Minisforum, MEGA POWER! Checking out the Minisforum HX99G

[@rabbirt]

YOOO WENDELL LOOKIN' FLY IN THAT JACKET

[@Marin3r101]

Fly for a white guy? Why you racist?

[@brianmccullough4578]

I'd do him

[@rabbirt]

it says there are 3 replies, but I see only one. are we shadowbanned or is this channel just the blacklist-zone?

[@FunctionGermany]

reminds me of NVIDIA CEO

[@Dboyle1209]

I just bought an HM90 from minis forum for a home lab and its been awesome so far. Dual nic, nvme with expansion for 2 sata ssd, 32GB of RAM. Really love the tiny form factor and its pretty much silent. Unless you are going hardcore for a home server/lab, this form factor really provides all the basics.

[@Sebyllis7350k]

Yeah most ppl don't really need a traditional server these days.

[@Bob_Smith19]

@@Sebyllis7350k Most people will be fine w/ a commercial NAS. Prevents the setup headaches and the majority just want file backups and a media server.

[@brianclarke8503]

Did you put a hypervisor on it? like esxi? What kind of nic do these units use?

[@alfwaibel4773]

Preordered mine today. Can´t wait for it! It´s to replace my I7 4790K, GTX 1080, 16GB RAM machine, which i use for half a decade now. As I am no triple A gamer, just enjoy more "classic" titles, from retro to 2010-2015 games at newest, I think, this little PC will give me the power I need, coupled with a SFF, and much less power usage, as energy prices rising like hell.

[@alfwaibel4773]

@qtsssim You are probably right, but not much (less than 20%, GPU-wise, as I found out). For the price of much more electricity used. I will keep this machine, but will only use it from time to time. Want to have the HS99G for my everyday PC with Internet, work, gaming. And I just have an 1080p monitor, and just use to play games in 1080p, so I see no problem. ;) But thanks for the advise.

[@alfwaibel4773]

@qtsssim After receiving it and finalizing it with two 2TB Samsung M.2 NVME SSDs, 32GB Ram, and some testing, I can confirm, that this little machine deranges my worthy good old gaming PC with the specs, shown in the main post. Although, you were right - the GPU power is a little bit less, but not much - around 5-7%, I guess. Probably it´s the more modern architecture with the fast lanes and better RAM. But for that electricity used, and with this quite silent performance, the HX99G is an absolute blast. Recommended!

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

The new "4090" laptops from MSI and ASUS have 320 Watt power supplies. So the 260 Watt in a SFF desktop seems downright reasonable by comparison.

[@josemachado7830]

Looks like a fantastic machine for development as well.

[@michaelthompson9798]

The future of home PCs right here 🥰💪🥳. Lower power, excellent performance, decent thermals in a SFF build which can hide behind a monitor or strapped under a desk etc 🥰🥳😱🤤

[@post-leftluddite]

I cannot wait for miniPCs with the new AMD Pheonix APUs with RDNA3 graphics....those will be awesome....I won't be able to afford one, but they're still going to be awesome

[@davefroman4700]

Yeah, but this one will be $499 next year. And likely $219 the next year ;)

[@blasphemous24]

Beelink GTR7 utilizes it

[@MountKash1]

I just ordered one od these last night. I was debating on going with the HX99G or NUCXi7. They both look great and will save space with the small form factor and vertical stance. The NucXi7 is a little but more powerful (with a laptop 3070 built in). And looks similar to a PS5 design (would fit right in side by side lol). But with the HX99G having the USB4 ports. I figured it could have potential for more upgrading such as eGPU (maybe a work around to attaching a desktop 3080 or higher if I change my mind off space). Tech is moving fast. But as far as small footprint & power. Think I'll be happy with it. Should be easy to travel with. & I have too many laptops as is. So I wanted something different for a small form factor.

[@paulwratt]

the best part about the Minisforum AMD units is that they can comfortably run on a 24 volt (mobile) power system, being that the power bricks are 19 volt laptop equivalents (all be it at much higher power ratings, thats still MAX, not MIN, unlike the Intel units). This also means that if they are under-clocked, then they can also be comfortably used on a (good / suitable)12 volt power system too

[@matteorano5347]

So can minisforum AMD run on a powerbank 100w 30000 mah? (Aohi brand)

[@PlanetFrosty]

Way to go Wendell! Conquering a mountain of clutter getting to the opportunity.

[@donvineyard8654]

Got my Neptune a week ago. Wow, loving it. Runs everything at max display + Ultra. So much fun. Cinebench is 13,000+ multi-core for reference. I love the dual gpu. With casual activity the lighter gpu runs instead of the beefy gpu. I'm running on W11, not Linux on this particular box. I have another Minisforum (this one) and it runs Linux superbly...so I have no doubt they will fix the issues.

[@Christobanistan]

Did they fix for Linux? I just ordered one specifically for Linux compatibility, so this is disappointing to hear. But I haven't got it yet.

[@daysiewaysie]

you have lost some weight and you're looking great for it !

[@binaryflawgic5713]

Thanks for making me feel bad for convincing myself I want a laptop, turning into an Applelad... I hope they keep on making these great things. And you, too.

[@GewelReal]

For the price it's fantastic! There's isn't enough "NUC-sized" computers with dedicated GPUs

[@markus.schiefer]

Indeed. I wish AMD would give this more priority, but they are holding any interested manufacturer back by not providing enough quantities and delaying delivery for SFF every generation.

[@markus.schiefer]

Does anyone know what exact power brick this one uses? I've been trying to find out where to get a second one because that would allow me to use it in two locations without having to always bring the power brick. It's a shame they didn't just use one of the more common ones like the 330w that Dell and many others have been using for at least 7 years now.

[@davidhenrryt]

I have the HX90G and it's a little tank, wish I get my hands to this new model HX99G

[@graemecollis52]

Great to see the *Steve* focused top

[@CTWilliams89]

I picked up two of these for science.... one for a Harvester node, and one for a proxmox node or both for either. Did you have any luck doing pcie passthrough? I know in the video you talk about the pcie tunneling, but wasn't sure if there are certain other bios settings recommended to passthrough the gpu.

[@pippylongstocks6310]

I'm debating between minisforum's NUCXi7 and the HX99G for gaming. I've been going back and forth. Any guidance?

[@chazlewis8114]

I'm torn between them as well (but leaning towards the HX99G. Did you end up picking one?

[@pippylongstocks6310]

@Chaz Lewis I went with the NUCi7. So far, so good. I haven't played anything crazy fps yet but it's great for multitasking

[@chazlewis8114]

@@pippylongstocks6310 Nice! Is there anything about it that you're particularly unhappy with?

[@MountKash1]

I was also torn between the 2.i ended up ordering the HX99G last night because of the USB 4 ports. The NucXi7 is slightly more powerful. But I figured I'd save a little on the HX99G and the USB4 ports are AMD legit so there could be expandability through that in the future (egpu etc for more graphic card options). I really like the look of both of these mini PC's though. & the SSF.

[@zkam83]

Does the usbc displayport still work if you disable the igpu from the bios?

[@pmcmpc]

I'm waiting for the 7800HS and 7900HS mini pcs. Those should be awesome for gaming. Also much cheaper than this.

[@bernds6587]

Doubt that. It'll be newer and more powerful - why would they make it cheaper?

[@Vhalikuporamee447]

@@bernds6587 Because they'd be using integrated graphics rather than the 6600M dGPU.

[@efr89]

The value king is the HX80G. For 615€ you get a 5800H and 6600M. There is no beating that with a 7900HS for gaming, not by a long shot. 6600M scores about 2.5 times higher in TimeSpy than the 780M in the 7900HS.

[@TTempje]

12:51 I would really like to read the guide, but there isn’t a link to it in the description (and couldn’t find it on the website)

[@samdeur]

Cool I was just looking at this wanting to compare it with the um690. I don’t game but there are more uses for a gpu like pass true and this system has a better cooling then the um690

[@eduncan911]

Watching this on my Lenovo Thinkpad P1 Gen 5 - with a 300 Watt PSU.

[@JR34MZ]

I love that hoodie lol, great for the family

[@SuperMari026]

Looking great Wendell! This might be a good candidate to replace my good ol' A300 from ASRock

[@maeltech8038]

cuanta diferencia de poder existe entre el modelo HX90G que tiene la misma rx6600M pero con un ryzen 5900HH? otra consulta sabes si la rx 6600M es PCIe 4.0 X16 o X8?

[@VideogamesAsArt]

el ryzen 5900 es similar al 6900. Es la misma arquitectura, lo que cambia es el I/O. Es decir, hay menos de 15% de diferencia entre ambos, no lo notarás

[@maeltech8038]

@@VideogamesAsArt Bueno si a nivel de procesador no hay mucha diferencia, lo único relevante es que ya viene con PCIe 4.0 y aprovecha mejor las tarjetas de video que también son PCIe 4.0

[@VideogamesAsArt]

@@maeltech8038 no sabía que el 5900HX no tenía PCIe 4.0, pues muy cierto! Tampoco no notarás mucha diferencia, ya que cuando tienes 8x o 16x, el ancho de banda es muy grande incluso aunque sea de la generación anterior (es solo 4x que empieza a tener una diferencia, como se ha visto en el 6500 XT

[@maeltech8038]

@@VideogamesAsArt Claro pero resulta que la rx 6600m es PCIe 4.0 X4 entonces es mejor usarlo con un procesador que es PCIe 4.0

[@shaunmadden545]

Wendle is looking like he has dropped some weight and that jacket is looking good mate.

[@jonathont5570]

My issue is that the usb-4 only connect to the 680m and not the 6600.. strange.

[@colezimmerman5187]

Ive got some 5600 ddr5 from a different labtop, will that work with this machine or should I purchase some 4800?

[@budthecyborg4575]

Just imagine a 7900XTX with a Zen 4 CPU chiplet running beside the GPU die, you could have a no-compromise APU. The 24GB DDR6 is more than enough to run your OS and games, adding a CPU to a GPU board design is much better than running a GPU off of desktop DDR5. This is basically how consoles are built, they effectively just run the OS inside VRAM, there is no good reason PCs can't do the same.

I am confused, I can buy laptops that at least on paper have better dGPU and similar CPU for a similar price... So why should I buy this computer instead? eg. ASUS TUF Gaming A15 2023 FA507NV-LP041--> AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS 16GB 1TB SSD RTX 4060 sells for a similar price in Europe....

[@mmdragon3722]

What is the current in the USB 4 sockets? Is it possible to supply current to the monitor via USB 4?

[@neil1026]

Will the Razor Core X Egpu enclosure work with the HX99G?

[@arabianknight2096]

Hello sir i bought this device i turned it for the first time and i got stuck in the bios and cant open the windows screen

[@Razear]

20 years ago, a device that size would only be fathomed to be a cable modem.

[@Christobanistan]

So did they fix the PCIE?

[@m4nc1n1]

Love the intro music lol

[@movingstair]

Wait a sec...would this work IOMMU group wise for gpu passthrough of two VMs? Maybe even a USB Controller each (not ports)? I am getting excited feet over here.

[@dominusbelial]

That means some cool virtio tricks

[@shrimp_p4rm]

Do these use standard mini-itx motherboards?

[@bill_and_amanda]

My Dell G7 7700 (i7-10750H, RTX 2070 mobile) has a 250w power brick so the wattage isn't that crazy

[@OneAngrehCat]

I wonder where the value of Minisforum ends at this point. Tiny PC with slightly older components that offers good value in one well-rounded package? Great. Tiny PC with powerful components that is spilling a lot into full blown desktop PC performance and price? I'm not so convinced.

[@kevlarandchrome]

I really wish these things would include a single USB 2 port for my Logitech wireless receiver, other than that it looks pretty nifty.

[@markkeilys]

I've had mine plugged into a usb3 port for the past few months and haven't had many problems with it

[@iiimadmaniii]

So what do I have to do in order to get my um690 more GPU? Currently only 2gb. I thought it was 12gb but that is for something else... I only want to use it for gaming and it doesn't run hardly anything other than the same 4-5 games every frickin youtube channel demonstrates. I want it for Ghost Recon Breakpoint, and now know I need at least 8gb... And I don't know what else to do since it is a mini PC other than sell it or hope they take a return and refund me so I can tough it out and just get a tower, which I really never wanted to do in the first place.

[@samgoff5289]

Dude you don't buy a mini pc like this if you want something to upgrade...you get what you get and the one you bought specifically doesn't even have a dedicated gpu like the one in this video. You basically bought a weak pc made for web browsing

[@iiimadmaniii]

@@samgoff5289 yup I know now... games noobs play.

[@dobrzpe]

262w?!?! YEA, that's CRAZY! *looks at my alienware 330w power brick* :/

[@Andrew-dj1wd]

How does Minisforum UM790 Mini-PC with Ryzen 9 7940HS and Radeon 780M compared to Minsiforum Neptune HX99G Mini-PC with Ryzen 9 6900HX and Radeon 6600M?

[@efr89]

It has better CPU performance (probably around 15%) but way worse GPU performance. The 6600M scores about 8200 in timeSpy. The 780M in the 7940Hs will score around 3200.

[@Andrew-dj1wd]

@@efr89 I'm not sure if to go with the better CPU in the UM790 Pro or go for the dedicated GPU in the HX99G. I am shopping for a Minisforum Mini-PC to use for Day Trading Stocks with 4 monitors (LG 32 inch). Have lots of stock charts to display and to submit trades in real time.

[@efr89]

@@Andrew-dj1wd Hmmm well then I think the main thing is to check how many displays you would be able to connect with just the integrated graphics vs with the dedicated graphics of the 6600M. I don't know the answer to this as I only have a single display so for me this is not something I would be able to test.

[@Andrew-dj1wd]

@@efr89 I contacted Minisforum. They said: 1) UM790Pro is the best product our company has launched so far, with overall upgrade in all aspects 2) UM790 Pro with USB4 can support eGPU. 3) AMD 780M is good enough to handle stocks trading. (Best AMD iGPU). Can add 3GPU if needed. 4) 4 monitors can be supported on either UM790 Pro or the HX99G for twice the price as UM790, the ASUS TUF Gaming A15 (2023) Laptop, has AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS and dedicated GeForce RTX 4050

[@Andrew-dj1wd]

@@efr89 Both UM790 Pro and HX99G can support 4 monitors. I decided to go with the UM790 as it has the better CPU and can easily upgrade with an eGPU if needed.

[@goblinphreak2132]

I honestly think steam, you know the steamdeck, needs to make their own mini-pc using a suped up version of their custom SoC from AMD. They would kill the market instantly. Every gamer would want one.

[@Bob_Smith19]

Every gamer would not because you make compromises w/ Proton. If you want the best performance possible you will be playing in Windows, not Linux. Now streaming to a mini-pc would be great but then you have the power draw if both systems instead of one.

[@goblinphreak2132]

@@Bob_Smith19 as someone who legit uninstalled steamos for windows 11 on my steamdeck, i honestly dont care about your response about proton and Linux. While they can ship steamos on a mini pc, we the end user can just install windows 11. So its a non issue. Thanks for playing. Bye!

[@markkeilys]

so resurrecting steam machines as a first party product? I would like that, but give it a few years for the supped up version and start a tick tock cycle of console -> performance parity portable -> higher performance console with new hardware every 5 or so years. .. ... or they could just release the a console and a portable at the same time with the same chips and same performance every 7 years or so... ether way sounds good to me.

[@efr89]

@@Bob_Smith19 perhaps you haven’t tried Proton in a long time. There are plenty of games that run at a same frame rate as in Windows and some that even run better. That doesn’t mean Windows isn’t great for gaming though. But it’s definitely an OS that has different priorities and because of that it’s hard to use with a joypad.

[@jonathont5570]

@@Bob_Smith19 1 year later and SteamOS on handhelds is 1000% better then windows in the experience column, only anti-cheat it left to conquer.

[@matteorano5347]

Does anyone know if it can be powered by a 100w and 30k mha powerbank?

[@ericneo2]

These devices really need 2 NICs...

[@AI-xi4jk]

How does this and similar pcs compare in performance to Mac mini? I prefer to run linux on something like that but what’s the bang for the buck?

[@blkspade23]

The mac mini likely will have more raw horse power but you're going to give up most of utility you'd get from the PC. You'd probably give up even more to run Linux natively on Apple silicon. The PC will let you expand both ram and storage with standard off the shelf after market components.

[@thepeakoflife]

AMD 32 core mobile chips are coming out this year... :)

[@Dan-Simms]

Threads I think, so 16 cores

[@Bob_Smith19]

They’re making mobile Epyc CPUs. it will be 16 core max.

[@konic40]

whoa!

[@somehow_not_helpfulATcrap]

"What laptop is 260 watts?" 3080Ti mobile can be configured for 150~170 watts. Any laptop that comes in will probably have a power brick of 300-400 watts.

[@cwins10]

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[@williamthesoccerstar]

Just buy a Mac Mini pro or Studio.