Battlefield 1 Gun Mechanics Explained | BF1 Alpha Gameplay

[@BFFsEngineer]

01:12 Why does lvlcap bring up a picture of empty ocean? I can see nothing but water

[@Simpletoph]

What? No black stripes floating in the air?

[@floydelta7822]

The dazzle camo was mainly used to make the ships range of direction it's heading harder to make out, but I get your joke.

[@MinibyteGaming]

Touché

[@BFFsEngineer]

The Dazzle Camo was used to camouflage a ship containing zebras

[@rawwar6642]

Turn it to the left.

[@filmmaster987654321]

the abstractive paintings on the ships where to make the ships harder to hit. because of the weird stripes and all it was hard to guess how fast the ship was going and its direction. so the enemy couldn't aim as easily

[@anonym3017]

And we don't use it anymore because a thing called radat got invented and is now used on all warships.

[@4tonnesoffury329]

+Ano Nym we dont use it anymore because modern warships use missiles not cannons for its offensive armament, radar was used on ww2 ships btw.

[@ROBOTBOYINITIATIVE]

Another primary use was for disorientating torpedo tracking. Again, the methods of stealth have become way more advanced since then.

[@lucasschigart2721]

camos where used in WW II for 2 reasons ... the radar was not invented at the beginning of the war, and (in the passific war) the japanese painted their ships green to blend them with islands, so even if they where detected, it looked like a tradar malfunction (detecting a village ore base, not a ship). this actually costed the US some cruisers, that were lured in ambushes, even though they had radar.

[@lucasschigart2721]

also missiles were invented back in WWII, guided missiles on the other hand were not invented before the 60's

[@Sangth123]

LMGs shouldn't be used at close range. Jesus, LevelCap, it's about setting up in a position and firing. We know, you hate bipods, you love running and gunning and not playing the objective. But some people do.

[@aarnerissanen6628]

jesus Sanght, you should stop ranting about how people play a game and play them yourself. that is one of the main reasons videogames exist.

[@Sangth123]

BoS knight This guy has bitched about almost every change this game has made.

[@aarnerissanen6628]

Sangth then unsub

[@Sangth123]

BoS knight Alright

[@Axisoflords]

BoS you're bitching at a guy criticising a content creator, something that's quite apparent? Are you sure you're being smart right now?

[@lucasschigart2721]

SHIP CAMO INFO the ship camo pattern was made in a time were you just had optical detection by humans. they had to guess on how large the ship is based on details like doors and gun types of the ship in order to find the right shooting distance for the main battery. these camo patterns made it harder to see in which exact direction the ship is traveling and how big the single parts of the super structer are. these camo pattern become useless when in world war 2 radar based aiming systems were invented

[@ZapCannon5]

I was going to comment the same thing, thank you for saving me some time. :P

[@okthen1166]

Perfectly explained

[@nayhem]

"Is it a destroyer a mile away? A dreadnought five miles away? _We just don't know!_" srs, it's pretty cool how much you can tell of a ship's location and course by looking at things like how far it kicks up water

[@xXMegaUltraNinjaXx]

+nayhem only if you are close enough to see the water, which is harder as the range increases, as it gets darker, and as you get further away from the waterline.

[@Spekter2500]

they also used "countershading" on the guns and turrets and other stuff on the deck to make it even harder to see how far they were by making them almost invisible

[@zachhaigh5535]

Most of your bf1 vids seem to come down to you complaining that classes actually have different roles and aren't all effective at all ranges and engagement scenarios.

[@letsgoiowa]

+Detective John Kimble He understands nothing of game balance yet assumes he knows everything about it. Ugh.

[@wistfane]

Preach on brother. All these e-celebs are massive casuals.

[@zachhaigh5535]

Right? Why on earth the most effective long range anti-infantry class would also carry the most effective short range anti-vehicle equipment is absurd, and I don't understand why he continues to preach it. Unless you run out of bullets and c-4 there is no reason to play anything other than recon with a dmr. OPAF. Bring back tanks that aren't glass cannons with weak cannons

[@wistfane]

+Declarus_ Tanks have been getting progressively stronger with every game. Back in bf42 you could solo them easily as anti tanker now it takes a dedicated squad if 5 pple to bring it down. It a living nightmare since most servers are instand vehicle respawn

[@zachhaigh5535]

***** Tanks were fair in bc2 and bf3, where you could do damage if you played it safe (-airsupport). But in bf4 they suck big hairy man balls. I'm excited to actually have to run from them again, and to have to switch classes to deal with them

[@Ashfielder]

Dazzle camouflage is designed to make the enemy not able to tell what it is. A destroyer and a battleship might look the same as the colours and shapes blend the features together. It's redundant today thanks to radar, sonar, and other detection systems.

[@AkAxsMaLLzZ]

also to mask which direction is it facing therefore making it harder to judge how to aim and engage.

[@rizqialvaro3874]

toby why do i always see u on phlydaily baronvongamez sherman slickbee and devildogs chanel now here?!?!

[@barneyruckus]

Interesting

[@Ashfielder]

+Rizqi Alvaro Because I watch all of those channels?

[@SquireComedy]

Hello, Toby. Toby gets around a lot.

[@JustCantGetRight]

dazzle camo worked. It wasn't meant to conceal the ship, it was meant to make it difficult to distinguish the direction the ship was headed in. You can't conceal a ship in the horizon, it literally stands out, but you can make it difficult for the enemy to calculate an attack on the ship effectively.

[@nolanshuey2512]

The dazzle painting of the Battleships as transports during World War 1 were very affective. U-boat service men would become confused in the direction in which the ship was moving.

[@simcopter1821]

They still occasionally use some type of camouflage on modern ships.

[@cyberschn1tzel997]

+simcopter1 might be useful with new ships to hide the exact shape of it. Also used with prototype cars

[@nolanshuey2512]

Clayton Hanson They don't use it today because of Modern Tech it would be severely ineffective. Because of effective range finders and aircraft.

[@simcopter1821]

Clayton Hanson 43% of the dazzle ships sank, compared to 54% of the uncamouflaged; and similarly, 41% of the dazzle ships were struck amidships, compared to 52% of the uncamouflaged.

[@joshuaosborne9203]

+simcopter1 where did you find that info? Wikipedia?

[@TheMeanConservative]

1:16. In case you wanted to know LevelCap, from what I've read about painting battleships in that design it was to confuse enemy rangefinders by making an optical illusion.

[@jonskeggi6132]

They were used to confuse the enemy to make it harder to hit torpedoes at longer ranges. as it was hard to realize the shape of the ship.

[@rambojr6429]

They were painted in that style to prevent the spotters being capable of calculating range/speed precisely making it substantially harder to hit a boat with a torpedo

[@Tadicuslegion78]

still disappointed that the standard bolt action rifle, which was the most common weapon of WW1, gets thrown out the window for a bunch of auto/semi auto guns because hey why have trench warfare when we can run and gun.

[@johncamp1277]

I am so aggravated at the idiots who say "Oh, but bolt action rifles." Seriously it's a battlefield game! Do you think dice would have knowingly made a game with only 5 maybe 10 weapons? All being bolt action! I feel that people need to get over the fact that BF1, or any Battlefield game for that matter, isn't a hardcore shooter. Sure it's grounded in reality, unlike CoD, but it will never become Arma, or in this case, Verdun.

[@echo4567psn]

Or you know fuckin weapon /class balance. Stop complaining about something so trivial. I hope to god DICE doesn't listen to you guys asking for bolt actions to be a all class weapon, seeing how to would fuck up all of the balancing that's been put into the classes.

[@johncamp1277]

Also a BF1 that wasn't "run and gun" but instead focused on ONLY trench warfare wouldn't be fun and would likely set the franchise back similar to how Hardline did.

[@farmerboy9029]

just thank matimio and all the people that cry because of imbalance so that is why we dont have country specific weapons or authenticity

[@jkl15pr]

There will probably be a hardcore mode that has bolt action only

[@Dayrahl]

dazzel commo worked wonders we dont usebit because radar and ships fight beyond the horizon not withing each others sights..

[@davidluozhang5251]

yeah like it made it near impossible for enemy gunners to properly aim and estimate distance etc. nowadays, radar guided guns have made these camos ineffective. Now its all about jammers and sharp angles.

[@joshuaurbany6468]

Hey level, the reason for the ridiculous Dazzle Camo is to confuse the enemy. It makes it hard to detect what direction that boat is going also it makes it hard to see if the gun are aiming at you. Just thought you may want to know

[@RA-ij5td]

boat*

[@joshuaurbany6468]

how dare you correct me. I will still correct it

[@joshuaurbany6468]

good for you

[@1337billybob]

Also it no longer being in use for that size of ship is more due to better sighting technologies. Radar to begin with and many other optics that are run by computers, which also give the benefit of shooting over the horizon. We still use camouflage for river boats at least.

[@hairychris444]

Yep, and most dazzle patterns had false "bows" painted on to confuse U-boat targetting. This would cause a torpedo to pass behind the ship. Also true about targetting technologies. Dazzle works with visual only. Radar, sonar, magnetic, audio etc are not affected by paintwork. Going for dull grey may minimise visual spotting, dazzle was only really for confusing visual submarine targetting which is no longer used.

[@EderStudiosHD]

Holy Shit "the Snipers in this game blablabla" The Bolat Action Rifles where the standard weapons in this War... Everyone is so hyped about BF1 and WW1 and all we see is Urban Warfare with LMGs used as Assault Rifles. Why not like BF Hardline? Rifle for every class?

[@arcticridge]

Sprint animation delay is back (or should I say was never removed, seems like a strange feature to put back into the game so one could assume development of bf1 began as early as late 2013 during BF4's release window), people complained about it in BF4 claiming it took too long to begin sprinting so they removed it. Keyword: *animation*, it doesn't actually affect the player's speed in any way, it just adds a visual weighted feel to the player's movements.

[@kabloosh699]

No iron sight battle rifles? Those were the guns that most soldiers used back in WW1. They have too much firearm diversity in my opinion which is "neat" but I think finding some other ways to incorporate them would be better since it just silly seeing 60% of the fighting force sporting marksmanship rifles, and crew served machine guns. The game looks like BF4 with a WW1 skin on it. Just seems odd to have so many automatic weapons being utilized in a war where most soldiers had a bolt action rifle. Really like the bayonet charges though.

[@bohelton4511]

how would you balence all kit bolt action rifles? im asking everyone whinning about not enough bolt actions

[@svartorivigt5016]

Just give me the option to take a iron sight bolt action rifle for any class.

[@specialagentgeralt9763]

There are going to be bolt actions with only iron sights. Only for the scout class but they will be in. The Lee Enfield SMLE is one of them.

[@bohelton4511]

it would be the same as verdun then im glad there doing something diffrent

[@NYG5]

lol iron sight bolts dont need any other balancing because they will be fucked by automatics at close range. The same reason why the universal m1903 in Hardline is no trouble at all.

[@CorndogOnRC]

ships were painted like that in world war 1 to distract submarines/U-Boats, as it was much harder for somebody to distinctly tell apart what they were looking at (and what part of a ship they were looking at) through a periscope when looking at a camouflage like that compared to the sea. it was done like that as someone proposed to the navy during world war 1 that you cannot camouflage a ship at sea as there is nothing else there apart from the sea so even a ship with camo on it would stick out like a sore thumb. because of this the navy decided to focus more on distracting the enemy and making it harder for the enemy to pin point parts of the ship. (sorry for the long post :). )

[@ManlyMcBuff]

Did anyone else see the helmet fly off the guys head when he headshots him at 5:54?

[@Alphagaming55-s2x]

Yeah looks bad ass

[@yonkocommandersmoker9240]

thank you for pointing that out it makes me happy

[@johnlee7377]

haven't seen that since cod 2

[@Jay-fq5kq]

it was his helmet

[@FaZeAcryllicGaming]

LevelCap loadout The NOVRITSCH sniper loadout Primary: M40A5 Attachments: Nothing but an 8X Scope GRASS AUTUMN camouflage Secondary: G18 Attachments: Muzzle Brake (to give you a "brake" with the recoil) SPRAY WOODLAND camouflage Gadgets: C4 only (or with PLD if you want) Grenade: Smoke Specialization: Assault Knife: BOOT Soldier Camouflage: any Digital-based camos Story: You are Novritsch, an Austrian Spec-Ops sniper turned into the most popular Airsoft personality on KZbin. Today, you decide to take on the wide-open maps of Battlefield 4. With no FPS limits and a newly installed Hop Up, you can shoot out GoPros and Coyote sights from miles away.

[@Brokkolesz]

The lack of bolt actions is just sad. Everyone is running around with automatics.

[@nicholaspuchta]

Do you want fun or realism. Quit bitching about something stupid. If you want realism, find a ww1 first person simulator. Not battlefield.

[@Brokkolesz]

ArmyOfNike Ninjas It's not realism, it's just dumb as fuck. I want bolt actions, since it's WW1. If I wanted all automatics and SMGs, why didnt they just make it WW2?

[@kre1187]

Verdun should suit you. I find realism fun, so instead of buying this I'm going to buy Verdun.

[@Brokkolesz]

Kre1 My only problem with verdun is it's so clunky and ugly that I just couldn't get into it.

[@nicholaspuchta]

+Malacovics because then they can't get the vision they have out without people bitching "omg there are trenches? This is ww2! This is bullshit and unrealistic!" If you want realism and more bolt actions, play verdun.

[@Soulseeker223]

Dazzle camouflage was quite effective. Due to the fact that ships always skyline themselves on the horizon, it was basically impossible to prevent them from being spotted. Dazzle camouflage distorted the outline of the ship, making it hard for enemies to identify what they were looking at. You can find some pics of it from and distance and it does a pretty good job.

[@Arthurzeiro]

The need for camouflage in ships vanished since radar localization advanced a lot.

[@MrLaedu]

disruptive pattern camo for ships was extremely effective. makes it hard to tell the ships exact properties and, most important, its direction

[@XzLPlAY3RzX]

I'm ready for a beta I really want to see other maps.

[@theeatifier]

Beta will either be just this map still or a single new one. Won't be more than two maps :P

[@charliebartlett5768]

+Raven Wood didn't the hardline open beta have Downtown and Dustbowl?

[@LouSassol69er]

+Raven Wood the beta could be rush mode in the Italian Valley map. Hoping for both rush and conquest in the bets tho.

[@Angelo-ll7qn]

Is it open beta?

[@idk2865]

Yeah they can't show more then 2 maps, I'm betting it'll be this map bit might have bug fixes etc.

[@specialagentgeralt9763]

I LOVE the diversity here! It really emphasizes playing the different classes because there is no "one class to rule them all" anymore. This will FORCE players to make compromises and choose the right weapon for the right situation which is great from a gameplay standpoint because it adds depth. It aint casual and that's a good thing. Also like the idea of machine guns being meant for suppression SUPPORT and the attention to bolt actions on scout for us more historically minded people.

[@NinjaGuidane1]

If you r crouch moving does the flare still spot you?

[@MrdotKstar]

Asking the right questions

[@ocean29]

ahaha

[@idk2865]

Yeah but it only last for legit 0.5 secs

[@MisterK9739]

+Mr. K* the only question I have for you who came first :D

[@MechaGodzilla141]

+Mr. K* this isn't a reason you wouldn't be spotted tho?

[@galacticgam3r105]

Something awesome I noticed is that the gameplay doesn't seem to lag at all, and THIS IS THE ALPHA!!! This is awesome for everything! :D

[@lolr1829]

damn that luger p08 camo looks AMAZING

[@grant8171]

Right? I haven't seen anyone use a Luger in the alpha though :-(

[@Ashfielder]

+Grant Look up Stodeh. He uses the Luger, as well as Marble Duck.

[@23134234r5512345]

+Grant 1911>luger

[@lilianavotruba29]

Luger or gtfo.

[@HaloFTW55]

+Molly Schindler Hi-Power > M1911

[@aggressivesloth4675]

The ship painting was extremely effective... it meant you couldn't target your torpedoes because you couldn't work out where the front and back was. Radar is the reason they no longer look like that.

[@williamgarcia356]

Does anybody see something weird with the scope in and out animation I can't put my finger on it but it was hurting my eyes

[@wifoutteef]

I noticed this as well. I can't put my finger on it either - it might be the way it fades away

[@Axisoflords]

It's the ADS FOV scaling, it isn't complete yet, the option was in BF4 to tweak it and you'll be able to here.

[@poodlemeister22314]

It's kinda like when you fly out of the map and the textures start blurring together (happed a lot in the early MoH games) and it looks like the scope is trying to do a proper reflection of what is seen through the scope rather than just a dark scope, like it is in BF4

[@2bae642]

Are you talking about the scope texture, or the zoom-in animation? They both look like they're placeholders/ not in the game yet.

[@The_Blog]

It's almost as if the image that is seen through the scope when zooming out doesn't change during that animation. Like a snapshot.

[@ControlTheAirwaves]

MORE INFO ABOUT THE SHIP CAMO A quick google search will tell you that it was not ineffective (for it's time). It was used to hinder the enemy when it comes to detecting how many knots the ship was going, since you had to manually calculate the speed and bearing, which makes it way harder to judge where to fire your ships artillery. You have to remember that everything for the most part was manual, there were no laser guided rockets. Judging where to fire your main armament involved tons of math and calculations. Also, it helped camouflage the ships while docked in port. It also was hard to tell which was the bow/stern of the ship, which forces the observer to try to use the wake of the ship as judgement, which was a lot harder. Sure, they're pretty obsolete now, but at the time, they served their warships well.

[@paolowolfart2847]

It's 2016 and broken trees still don't have physics :\

[@pronto6013]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CANT YOU SEE THAT ITS A CLOSED ALPHA

[@HighwayHeight]

Plus why are you focusing on trees?

[@energetically1]

Cos trees give him wood *ba da dum tss*

[@Mrfireballs2002]

theres only 3 more months until release ... thats not something that they add or fix during this time. During this time its gun balance and shit like that

[@Mrfireballs2002]

net code etc

[@Tcflohr]

good find on the dazzle ship. the pattern, as others said, is to disorient the direction it's going as well as make it more difficult to judge depth and distance. it's the same concept applied to camouflage patterns today with MARPAT and ACUs.

[@Wurstsalat501]

There are no normal Bolt action Rifles ?!!? only snipers ?

[@AtopTheHouse]

that was probably the worst thing i've ever read.

[@OneManInHiswaistCoat]

Because they knew the fucking casuals would cry.. They only made this a WW1 game for the novelty of the setting not to actually make a WW1 game

[@Wurstsalat501]

yea or dmr´s (designated marksman rifle) so yea technecly all snipers i think ...... kind of rubbish when u think about a ww1 scenario..........

[@williamgarcia356]

The mechanic with the machine guns is a god send because now support players can play there role and support their team in BF4 you have people treating machine guns like they are assault rifles with box mags running and gunning

[@intruder313]

I worry SMGs are going to ruin the balance, maybe Assaults should have had shotguns with even shorter range

[@williamkent2446]

I don't think they will. They have taken their healing capabilities away which will hopefully make the player think more tactically. Also, they are forcing the assault class to close the distance and actually assault, which I appreciate. No more will we have snipers, assault, supports, and engineers all fighting within 15 meters of each other (Operation Locker) causing a giant clusterbomb. For any given capture point, people will find Assault is best inside the capture point, Medics and Support circling around the perimeter, and Scout providing longer range support. Ideally, the classes in bf1 are much more defined and will encourage the player to play their respective positions on the battlefield...which I am a HUGE fan of. It is one giant step towards encouraging teamwork and playing the objective.

[@RhodokTribesman]

About the dazzle camo, watch The Great Wars episode in it. The zebra stripes made it very hard to judge distance, speed, orientation, size, and class of the ship, making it hard to range your guns and shoot at it

[@joelbns]

Will there be bolt-action rifles for all classes?

[@SeenaSpeech]

no, unfortunately

[@RushBaeCyka]

No,not all.I can't remember which classes have them but i think it's only 2 classes.

[@samuelstamp1443]

I'm pretty sure they're are only for medic and scout classes

[@Doovess]

Medic Semi/Auto Rifles and Sniper Bold Action.

[@PillzSufrie]

+Samuel Stamp Scout only. Medics get semi-automatic rifles.

[@IrishSpyHD60]

+LevelCapGaming The warships weren't really painted with those patterns to "distract" the enemy. They were painted that way because it made it hard to tell from a distance which way the ship was moving due to the way the stripes appeared to move.

[@GhostWritersParanormalPortal]

breaking down mechanics in an alpha game (gimme more views)

[@mortadahasaad530]

Here is how dice want us to play the support class : You have to follow the squads stealthily who are heading for the objectives and put your bipod on a ledge,window,etc and watch for their backs and support them by suppressing the enemy

[@ilikelampshades6]

09:18 . Shoots someone point blank range in the throat and doesn't get the kill! WTF make bolt actions one shot kill are close and medium range

[@MisterK9739]

one shot would be incredibly boring gameplay. Spawn, run boom dead.. with 2 shots you at least have time to do sth

[@darkdeath4523]

I can tell you dont know how real gunshots are, you dont die emidetly even close range, when shoot in the stumach you bleed to death and still have a change to kill the fucker who shot you. I shoot with rifles and i have also talked to a soldier who has been shoot and have killed and i can say he was a lucky fucker.

[@ducphanmanh1203]

balance reasons

[@GreyShot254]

Dazzle Camo doesn't distract, it makes it much more difficult to tell where the ship begin and ends and which way it is moving. When you have to lead the round 15 seconds ahead one small calculation area can mean you miss by 100 meters

[@sirtoast8314]

Snipers should be a one shot kill if you hi someone in the chest

[@gahamhumphrey4812]

Some troops had body armor in WW1 which had saved them from those hits from time to time, if they arent wearing body armor it should be 1 hit, if they are then idk

[@darkdeath4523]

+Colton Scharf you have a chanse to live when you get shot in the chest but not for long tho, you need medical cear ASAP when shoot with something like a sniper if not you bleed out and die Sortly after so. I dont like how people forget that you can live after one shot but will die if you dont get help soon after or you'll die of blood loss...

[@bob6129]

It's not cod

[@funkymonk0429]

thats why i play hardcore. none of this bullet sponge crap

[@sentrybravo]

They're 1 shot if they're at the right range.

[@stevenadams7055]

the dazzle camo was defense against submarine attacks. it made it harder to judge speed,direction ect.

[@HARaZAC]

so theres no reason to use the classic world war 1 bolt actions rifles like in Verdun... ok?

[@jacksonlarson6099]

Because-wait for it-this isn't Verdun! This is Battlefield, and no matter what setting it goes to, it will still be a Battlefield game.

[@HARaZAC]

+Jackson Larson nice meme, but there will probably be camping missions, as well as a nice trench level that allows you to do this, this is only the start of the PR campaign because - wait for it - that's how marketing works, cock teases till release

[@jacksonlarson6099]

Захари Прит Are we even talking about the same thing?

[@HARaZAC]

+Jackson Larson I thought we were talking about battlefield

[@jacksonlarson6099]

Захари Прит Yes but I was pointing out that you seem to want this to play like Verdun with vehicles rathet than Battlefield (not to mention using a bolt action with iron sights is still viable, it's just not your only option.

[@crazydudeofcrazyness]

The flashy camo on the Warships was incredibly effective at the time, During this time, weapons on warships had no form or targeting computers, nor did they have advanced enough Sonar to create movement projections for targets. It was fantastic at forcing manually fired torpedoes from periscopes miss by enormous distances as the firers couldnt tell the facing, oreientation and speed with direstion of enemy ships, due to the angular design and the way the light interacts as it travels atop the surface of the waters reflective surface. Some seriously fascinating stuff

[@ian-op5fv]

so a ww1 game but only recon has bolt actions, what the fuck? bolt guns were the main infantry weapons in ww1 and in ww2. machine guns were few and far between, submachine guns semiautos were very rare. i know its supposed to be an action game but shouldnt bolt actions be somewhat effective or at least available to every fucking class? whats the point of a ww1 game if your just running around in the open and don't have to worry about people at long ranges? a solution might be to give bolt actions an advantage to compete with machineguns and semi autos, maybe BAs could have a long lasting and effective "suppressive" effect or they cause enemies to blead to death. something other than bf4 with blimps and funny uniforms.

[@kre1187]

The game Verdun is a lot more realistic than this, and always will be. Battlefield is Battlefield, action and to most players fun, takes over realism. I find realism more fun than this. I would only get this because Verdun isn't getting vehicles anytime soon.

[@kukluxkarl159]

+Christian Quiles What aspects? Please elaborate your statement!

[@chadkingoffuckmountain970]

Ku Klux Karl Let's see... The fact the guns don't jam in dirt or at all The fact that you can't get killed by your own team's poison gas The fact that there's no bullet drop The fact you can use a BAR in maps taking place well before 1918

[@kukluxkarl159]

Christian Quiles You are saying it's not realistic. And yes. It isn't. But it's historically accurate.

[@kukluxkarl159]

Christian Quiles Still better than BF1. That's where I have to choose :/

[@TheTripleDubya]

I don't know where I read it, but as I remember the purpose of the Dreadnought stripe camo was to confuse U Boat periscope operators as to the direction that the ship was travelling in and also at what range it was. Unlike we're lead to believe, periscopes of the day weren't crystal clear at all times and weather and waves could obscure the view, so getting quick confusing glimpses could cause confusion.

[@RainbowPotatoGaming]

LOL WTF A handheld Lewis Gun lmao

[@gamingzeus4020]

Lewis guns were very versatile and actually were sometimes held.

[@thetragedyofdarthplagueist419]

by 2 people

[@RainbowPotatoGaming]

ah ok refreshing my knowledge with Wikipedia: [W]ith the weapon beginning to be generally issued to the British Army's infantry battalions on the Western Front in early 1916 as a replacement for the heavier and less mobile Vickers machine gun, the Vickers then being withdrawn from the infantry for use by specialist machine-gun companies.

[@gamingzeus4020]

Prysma I dont do my own research, i just get my information from Jackfrags or LvlCap or something like that lol.

[@koekiejam18]

The razzledazzle thingy works against submarines without laser guided torpedos because the lines get mixed with the sealevel making it harder to decide what your aiming at especially when looking through a messy telescope

[@fortworths]

The camo on ships wasn't for distraction; the pattern broke up the shape and lines of the craft when viewed over long distances.

[@Moholeoel]

It also made it difficult for the enemy to predict direction and distance when aiming torpedoes, etc.

[@Looser4kHD]

they used this type of camoflage since at longer distances (where enemy ships usually were) the ships trajectory was really hard to figure out and that resulted in miscalculations when shooting torpedos.

[@anonymus8876]

The dazzle patterns were meant to make it harder to zero in on a ship. Not just to look fabulous.

[@ponycentaur1456]

1:20 they had all sorts of water camo. The stripes were MAINLY to confuse aiming systems on which way the ship was heading or turning. THey were effective agaisnt subs, BUT were no longer used due to the visibility by aircraft when they became more and more used in combat. Look up PINK cammo on ships, and even ww2 jeeps .

[@iflexx123]

Dazzle camouflage was used to confuse the enemy. When you look at the black and white patterns from afar it becomes nearly impossible to tell the distance. The pattern makes it difficult to tell the exact shape of the ship as far as calling out different parts.

[@ray4lsd]

The dazzle camo for ships was not created to hide ships. That is almost impossible anyways as they will allways stick out, or depending if they used coal or oil had a huge exhaust cloud giving the position away anyways. The thing is, you still have to manualy range in your weapons or you want to know what type of enemy ship it is just by using visual methods, like optics etc. And here is where the dazzle shemes shine. With advancements in rangefinding like radar the camo became obsolete.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Dazzle camo makes it hard to tell if a ship is moving towards or away from you. It also disguises the shape and size of a ship, making it hard to tell what kind of boat it is. It isn't used anymore because Navy engagements tend to happen with guided weapons over the horizon.

[@wb8864]

Dazzle Camo was actually extremely effective. It's purpose was not really to mask the ship from eyesight, but to disrupt the outline thus making it difficult to calculate how fast it was actually going.

[@Radintoriov]

Radar trumped the use of Dazzle Camo, but back in WW1 when you had to visually gauge direction, angle and range with very little mechanization every little bit helped with impacting enemy artillery fire.

[@stephenmarshall3771]

level, the dazzle camouflage on warships is actually meant to distort depth perception of the gunners on an enemy warship, in theory this was thought to decrease the accuracy of the enemy ship firing back at you

[@warthog2022]

The dazzle paint job was stopped once radar was fully introduced. The dazzle paint was pretty effective at messing up long range shooting of the plotters.

[@dmcc5110]

The dazzle camouflage worked, it was too primarily stop submarines and mess up where they'd fire torpedoes not hide the ship, as it becomes hard to identity individual ship parts. It became obsolete after sonar e.t.c

[@geooooooooorge]

Do you have to use presets? I would rather use my weapon how I want, not how DICE wants.

[@jacob8997]

Dazzle camouflage was used on warships and mostly supply ships to throw off submarine attack. It was pretty effective

[@squirreleater]

dazzle paint was not camouflage. it was meant to keep the enemy guessing about what type of ship you where, and made it very difficult to determine the size of a ship when seen by itself

[@grrr111222111]

The objective of Dazzle camouflage was to present a confusing profile of a ship in order the obfuscate your heading and speed, something that you need to know very well considering the ranges that naval guns can reach out to. The advent of radar, as opposed to visual, targeting system renders this type of camouflage obsolete.

[@davidcbird]

The Navy camo was used to distract you eyes and make it much more difficult to Identify and target the weapons and other key areas. as you may see in levelcap's provided photo it can be quite effective, only increasing at range.

[@Aesthetic-Hollow]

the dazzle camo for the ships wasent used for distraction too much, it was ment to confuse the direction it was going so the enemy knew not to or to shoot them down because it could be going to war depending on the direction.

[@NeonVars]

At 1:53 I was already rolling my eyes at the idea of red dots sights being in a ww1 game, until I realized it was just the spotter circle perfectly aligned with the iron sights.

[@sweast8302]

The painting on the ship is called "Dazzle Camoflage" the stripes and the angles make it hard for the enemy to see what kind of ship and what guns it was by hiding it's true angles.

[@Haulvarn]

The camouflage on the warships was supposed to confuse the eye. THe idea wasn't to hide the ships, but to make it harder for a spotter to identify the type of ship, since it was a lot harder to distinguish its features. When ships with the same camouflage pattern would drive close together multiple ships might even appear as one to the human eye. Also, as mentioned in another comment, it made it harder to estimate distance, speed and course of the ship. This worked very well until the late years of WWII when naval ships were equipped with fairly modern radar systems (for the time) Sincerely, a german navy NCO

[@ElFourTwoZ3r0]

no one is more right and accurate about battlefield info than level. props dude keep it up!

[@justinpyke1756]

Dazzle camouflage was extremely effective if it was done right. It was not to "distract" the enemy, but to throw off fire control solutions by making it seem like the ship was, say, moving slightly away rather than slightly toward the observer. It worked particularly well against coincidence rangefinders. Not all dazzle camouflage worked as intended, and the stuff that worked was limited to specific engagement ranges: tiny lines like the ones shown there were better at close ranges, while thick lines were better at long ranges. At long range, thin lines would blend together and it would lose its dazzling effect. Same with thick lines at close range: they would be too large to fool the observer. There were lots of other little tricks, like painting false bow waves in order to give the impression that the ship was moving faster than it was, or to paint a false bow in an effort to make the ship appear shorter. All of this was done to throw off enemy fire control. The reason dazzle camouflage has fallen out of favour in modern navies is because range-finding is no longer done by the Mk. 1 Eyeball with some optical assistance. It is done with radar and other such things. However, modern dazzle camouflage, particularly on small patrols vessels and the like, does still exist.

[@willmayhew2787]

The Dazzle camouflage was used to break up the outline of the ships stern and bow. The idea was to make it hard for enemy Uboats to know the ships heading, making it harder to torpedo.

[@KipperStudios]

On the topic of camouflage for ships - it was HIGHLY effective at its job. But what was its job? No, it wasn't to make boats invisible. It was to protect them from torpedo attacks, as its a lot harder to target a ship with zebra camo than it is a plain grey ship, especially with water & sun glint all over the place. Sounds silly, but it worked.

[@anthonyramos169]

Level, the reason they painted stripes was to disorient the enemy ship's, when both the boats rocked back and forth combined with the zig zag's your enemy couldn't tell if you were moving, got nauses and would make it really hard for the enemy war ship to fire upon you. Also keep up the good work, I love your video's!

[@jamesfischer8667]

the razzle dazzle camouflage was meant to make it very hard to judge the distance, speed, and direction in which the ships were going. Yes it did actually work.

[@ACRBARF2]

I really like that when you shoot some guns the gun itself actually tips up a bit in your hands, I do t really like when in bf4 when using anything other than pistols it would just make your screen tilt up and not the gun itself

[@SoccerChris6]

The ship skins were originally made submarines couldn't see what way the boat was moving. This made it so they couldn't aim where the boat is going, but when sonar was popularized they could use the sonar to track the ship.

[@dense_and_dull]

They didn't use dazzle camouflage to distract the enemy. They used it to confuse U-Boat captains. It was effective in masking the direction and speed of the ship. It is no longer used because we use other methods to mask our ships from Sonar and Radar and not periscopes.

[@bliesberg]

Dazzle camouflage wasn't designed to hide the ship, it was designed to make it hard to determine the shape and direction of the ship. It worked well enough to use it past WW2.

[@NeuXNeumann]

The Watchmen Edward "The Comedian" Blake bf4 load out- primary:Remington 870, no attachments but full choke and buckshot-secondary: 1911 with no attachments but heavy barrel-class: support-gadgets: ammo box and xm25 smoke -grenade: m67 frag-knife: boot-field upgrade: offensiveI really hope you do this load out LevelCap. I am a major fan of watchmen and love the comedian, I use this Loadout when running shotgun I hope you have fun with this load outkeep up the great quality vids!

[@RukaSubCh]

Levelcap the reason they used dazzle camouflage back then is because only navel guns from battleships was how ships fought each other. So since its impossible to hide a battle ship on the open ocean. The only other way to prevent people from hitting you is by confusing them by preventing them from guessing your speed, direction and range. Hence dazzle camouflage was effective. Today we have cruise missiles, radar that can see pass the horizon and navel gunfire is not as prevalent because of aircraft carriers are the dominant force also nukes are more effective than having a bigger gun.

[@calipto4605]

The reason the ships were painted like that is so that it is hard to pinpoint certain areas of the ship, see what way it is facing, and generally cause confusion. Pretty interesting optical illusions if you ask me.

[@platy7730]

The mechanic of machine guns getting a tighter grouping isnt just a mechanic, its how they work. The weight of machine guns counter acts the recoil, making the machine gun become more controllable the longer its firing

[@Alpha2307]

The battleship camouflage was not to distract the enemy, it was to make it harder to tell how far away it was and the speed of the ships movement. We no longer use this because it has no effect against guided missiles, laser targeting or aircraft.

[@KamikazeSeatbelt]

Thank God we have you to explain to use lowly users how to use the weapons Lvl. God forbid we had to think for ourselves.....

[@Blargability]

Dazzle Camo was used to confuse the enemy not distract. Made long range targeting difficult because the zig zags made it difficult to figure out the exact heading and angle of the ship.

[@nicholastazza2798]

The Dazzle Camouflage was not meant to distract the enemy, but rather to not allow U-boats to effectively set the range on torpedoes. Hence why the shapes move in and out of each other.

[@jerregaming6009]

The lmg mechanic replicates the fact that LMGs were first shot and the they see where the bullets land, and then they adapt their aim in order to kill

[@saigonrider]

tbh whenever i watch bf1 gameplay i keep getting the feeling that the players are playing Abstergo Entertainment games where they emerge into history as world war 1 soldiers, which explains the female announcing voice, the overlook of the map & the zoom-ins when you spawn, plus the gun skins and behemoth stuffs

[@Skenderbeuismyhero]

It wasn't meant to distract the enemy. It just broke up the outline of the ship so an enemy would have a hard time telling what type of ship you were. This made it harder to gauge the ships range and hit it.

[@Kardia_of_Rhodes]

3:12 this is my one complaint so far. Back then most of the MG's were too heavy to be fired like that, you had to deploy it on a bipod and then shoot to provide SUPPORT not ASSAULT.

[@stepanmatousek8186]

Authentic classes Infantry: bolt action rifles, grenade launcher Assault:Smgs, anti vehicle weapons medic:Semi auto rifles, medkit and syringe. engineer:bolt action carbines, vehicle repair accesory support: machinegun scout: sniper rifles

[@BasedHadrian]

Yo level I watched like 3 streamers say tanks were insanely overpowered as well. You were right

[@BearOfNorway]

I must say that the way your character holds the pistol looks a lot more dynamic than in previous bf games. Might be the fact that he doesn't hold it that close to his face or that he moves it a lot around the screen, making it look more mobile which a sidearm is.

[@le4kyf4ucet54]

dazzle ships were super effective. it threw off the enemy's depth perception of an enemy vessel, making it near impossible to hit with a torpedo

[@seaworthysloth2375]

The ships used dazzle camos not to conceal themselves but to confuse u-boats so they could not tell the size or speed of the vessel, making hits with torpedoes harder to score

[@MegaOriginalSinner]

The different classes having different effective ranges is going to make playing the objective harder. If your machine gun works better at middle ranges, you're going to be outside the capping circle for flags and missing out on a lot of points.

[@kirk_7632]

dazzle camo works by making it harder to gauge the size and range of the targer