LEVIATHAN: AND I LOOKED UPON THE GREAT HIVE BEAST, AND KNEW THAT HOPE WAS LOST | Warhammer 40k Lore

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There is no time for peace. No forgiveness. No respite. There is only war.
Hive Fleet Leviathan had arrived, a new threat greater than anything that had come before. As the Great Rift tore the galaxy in two, Leviathan faced resistance from the Imperium, resurgent heretics, xenos armies, and even the daemons of Chaos. Kryptman’s machinations saw its tendrils slowed - caught in a cordon of exterminated worlds, or lured into a quagmire of Ork warfare in the Octarius Sector - but never stopped.
The Tyranids had their sights set on yet another Space Marine home world, this time the Blood Angels - but so too did the forces of Chaos. This ensuing battle between aliens, daemons, and around 30,000 Sons of Sanguinius led by Commander Dante left Baal and its moons even more ruined than before.
Here it seemed Leviathan had been stopped in its tracks, and Roboute Guilliman could focus his attention on the Indomitus Crusade. But it turns out Leviathan was far from defeated, as the beast’s maw closes on the beleaguered Imperium once again, from a wholly new direction…

[@SignoftheMagi]

-Tyrannids land on Catachan. -Catachan EATS the Tyrannids. -Jungle Fighters watch in confusion and popcorn.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

I want to see an alternative timeline Abbadon shatter Catachan with the Blackstone fortress only to end up with thousands chunks of the planet land on the black crusade fleet, causing a chronic infestation of Catachan ecosystem on their fleet (because of how resilient and adaptive the ecosystem on Catachan is). And since the planet seeded itself everywhere in the system after that, the Catachans just settle there because they have become addicted to the deadly jungle.

[@SignoftheMagi]

@@minhducnguyen9276 I'll do you one better. Abaddon uses the Blackstone Fortress on Catachan...but nothing happens. Then suddenly two titanic eyes open on the surface of the planet, followed by a psychic growl. The Black Legion immediately changes its name to the Brown Pants Legion.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

@@SignoftheMagi Nah. It doesn't need a psychic scream, it just fart a cloud of spore and random insects at the fleet and they'll have a chronic case of Catachan jungle on their ship decks. And it also spit back the Blackstone fortress right at the legion capital ship for good measure, the fortress would be filled with Catachan lifeforms of course.

[@SignoftheMagi]

@@minhducnguyen9276 flora vs fauna. I kinda like it.

[@lornbaker1083]

I can just imagine a couple of Guardsmen from the planet just looking at each other and talking About how it's so strange that this has happened At least 4 or maybe 5 times. Which isn't a lot. But the fact that it has happened In the first place to there planet. It's more than enough to make it seem very weird. Considering that Nearly everything else stops after the first time they failed. Tyranids just don't seem to get the message. Maybe that's why they made that giant moon. To go send it to eat all of catachan. After all, how do you Conquer a planet that quite literally eats your army. Every time you try to land on it. You make a planet to eat that planet.

[@Ben-sn9cw]

The votaan heard that the humans had a grudge to settle and immediately went welcome to the family.

[@davisdf3064]

When the subject is grudges, there's no one better to talk about it than the Votaan

[@Bluecho4]

Humans: "We bear a grudge that eats at our very souls. Our hearts are filled with rage, and our minds with thoughts of hate. We cannot sleep, eat, nor make love. All we long for is revenge." Kin: "First time?"

[@BenOtterson]

That’s going in the book!

[@vladimirmihnev9702]

That is going into the Book !

[@thegruntrepear434]

The votann just give them a blank book and welcomed them to the club

[@felslipes]

The norn killing 6 custodes is the vengeance of the 6 custodes killing a tendril

[@consolescrub4031]

I wonder how they scale with greater daemons. If memory serves the 8 exalted bloodthirsters and the army of khorne killed 2,000 custodes or something massive at the lion's gate.

[@felslipes]

@@consolescrub4031 tbh khorne fuckery is bizarre, but i think that the goddamn Bloodthirsters are strong as hell with warp juice and probally just turn the hell out apart of an Norn

[@consolescrub4031]

@@felslipes I think in this scenario it could go either way in a story due to the lack of lasting consequences following either outcome. I feel like on re-examination that a fight between a Norn Emissary and a named bloodthirster like Skarbrand or Ka'Bandha would end decisively in the favour of the bloodthirster unless there were some massive shadow in the warp shenanigans going on and that honestly goes for any greater daemon. Weaker greater daemons might be beaten but tyranids have never previously been as much about martial excellence in a single creature as they are about just having much more stuff than you (the swarm lord being the possible exception but it's mostly there for it's battlefield control with martial skill as a secondary benefit). I feel like if GW wanted to make the tyranids win such an encounter they would probably still swamp the daemon in bodies such as carnifexes.

[@felslipes]

@@consolescrub4031 the only thing we can know for sure is that the khorne deamons probally will enjoy a lot to fight this non ending bugs

[@consolescrub4031]

@@felslipes true although we know from Kronos that the hive mind doesn't oblige daemons where it can help it.

[@calebh373]

The more you describe Leontus, the more I'm like, "Karl Franz? Is that you?"

[@tanks608]

110% feeling the same thing

[@bonogiamboni4830]

I'm not a fantasy guy but tbh he kinda looks like him.

[@tanknerd7193]

I mean, he did kinda summon the elector counts.

[@honestkyn718]

@@tanknerd7193 and he was taken to his men

[@dougla517]

You're right, oh my

[@JellyCubess]

The dwarves being like "damn these humans just got abandoned...welcome to the family!" Is honestly sorta sweet.

[@CommissarMitch]

Supricingly wholesome for Votann, who are kinda known to not waste resources.

[@RanGoblin]

"They attack from above soaring on leathery wings, so we went below, there is was worse. They were there, their sneaking, leaping claws and talons. They coiled up in the smallest crevices, the tightest nooks. You could sweep a room for hours and be attacked when you turned away to leave." that is amazing

[@jacobthrasher987]

Imperium Scribe when a planet goes dark "Not my circus, Not my monkeys" he says not hearing the carnival music in the background

[@harolddix1336]

Or as they say on Letterkenny..Not my pig, not my farm

[@thezambambo2184]

The Imperium is the circus at this point

[@lornbaker1083]

I've heard that phrase before. Only i've heard it as, Not my cowboys, not my ranch. But I grew up in the midwest we tend to cowboy everything

[@gabrielespana319]

So even scarier thing about the dreadnoughts. A “score” typically means 20. It killed around 20 dreadnoughts

[@Zayamad]

I was going to make this comment, but then I decided to make sure no one else already did.

[@consolescrub4031]

Yup. Maths can be scary sometimes. I wonder if the goal was to block space marine reinforcements or it wanted something from the genetic makeup of the geneseed.

[@jjwang7597]

That makes more sense than 10, if another emissary managed to kill 6 custodians

[@anoninunen]

The Norn Emisary killed twenty dreadnaughts It killed twenty dreddies That's two times ten And that's horrible

[@jjwang7597]

@@consolescrub4031 now I’m interested, do you know if the tyranids have ever gotten their teeth on some geneseed? I feel like the hive mind could make some crazy tough bugs with that, maybe even their own space marines and that’d be crazy

[@sentient_trash]

What’s more terrifying than a constant swarm of hungry Nids? When the Nids stop coming But the Shadow hasn’t left And you can hear them just outside your trench

[@nhutchen1478]

Or worse, under your trench

[@drakobloodwing540]

There's a definition of we are inside your walls.

[@sentient_trash]

@@nhutchen1478 the clicking behind you isn’t the trench frame setting

[@robberyproductions1363]

"Hey Carl? Is it me or does half the Company look a little more purple than usual?"

[@gypdarin1458]

What are you a fan? Lol

[@quynlanvuorensyrja5484]

Wait a minute! So the whole reason nobody notices tyrannid invasions is because the imperial clerks are so overworked they just tune out and run on autopilot? Goddamnit, that makes perfect sense!

[@VitorSalsicha]

they dont have Excel to filter by region

[@jackmesrel4933]

Sounds like real life, specially the part were even with clear proof of whats to come the upper eschelons refused the reality of the situation. Guess we can point easily what gave GW the inspiration for 10th edition XDDDDD

[@MrThademon]

Isn't it the belief that no news is good news?

[@mezdemundi7115]

@@jackmesrel4933 Honestly can't tell if this is another brainless "10ed bad" post or something else.

[@jackmesrel4933]

@@mezdemundi7115 I was just joking about how the whole "War of Covered Eyes" sounds like a parody of how our goverments treated the COVID situation

[@ryc03]

At the meantime, the Tau are like, "I wonder what is happening? The galaxy seems to be a bit more quiet recently..." At the other side of the galaxy.

[@sheevismycity4789]

DK has said "wow they are not just mindless bugs?!" Every single episode about the tyranids, and even multiple times within them. My guy resets what he knows about them ever time they get mentioned.

[@itonieshi]

To be fair a looooooot of people fail to realize they aren't just mindless eating machines.. Despite the clear intelligence shown in previous lore and important characters talking about it. Maybe he's saying it constantly to reaffirm that point while keeping an air of comedic forgetfulness?

[@crr4482]

@@joshuafischer684 Audio books>>>boring reading simple facts

[@doxkowalski915]

​@@itonieshiYou are very optimistic, bless you.

[@subarashiboi600]

​@@itonieshi nah, I think DK just can't remember anything

[@urbanfrog]

DK is definitely playing a character lol, i mean, you can only be the newbie gullible fool for so long, but the podcast format demands it

[@GM-lx7ji]

You can feel the despair in DK's voice when Bricky says the Norn Emissary fought 10 dreads and almost killed all of them.

[@Talius10]

Somewhere, Kirioth is crying in a corner over the deaths of so many Dreadnoughts.

[@keaering5183]

So that's why the og dreads are getting the legends treatment

[@consolescrub4031]

If we're being technical it didn't fight ten dreads. Traditionally a score is 20.

[@thewitch7342]

"against all the evil the tyranids can conjure... all the wickedness the hive mind can conjure, we will send unto them... only you. rip and tear until it is done" -Lord Solar Leontus in his audio message directed to the chapter master of the Charcaradon Astra space marine chapter

[@znalniaskas]

Tyberos would go full rip and tear with those massive lightnight claws.

[@rynemcgriffin1752]

“Can’t hold on!” “Fall back!” “There everywhere!” “Causalities waver in the billions” “They’re breaking in!” - Imperial Guardsmen across hundreds of worlds

[@JudgeNicodemus]

SLAKE AND HUNGER TILL IT'S DONE!!!

[@henrypaleveda7760]

@@JudgeNicodemus slake and hunger must be fed

[@hisnotsolonely2961]

​@@JudgeNicodemus*Actives*

[@Demigodish4o3]

The location of the Fleet's Norn Queen can be located using the genetic sample from a node beast. It was done in the previous Tyranic War by the Mortifactors/Kryptman

[@loonylenny]

Oh shit! Well, I hope killing the queen actually puts a dent in the hive.

[@voltix54]

each hive fleet has multiple norn queens they usually just control a tendril thats why nids behemoth tendrils can still invade and coordinate even tho the main tendril was destroyed

[@BananenbaumEY]

wait wasnt this uriel and deathwatch and mortifactors?

[@Demigodish4o3]

@@BananenbaumEY Sorry, yes! Mortifactors simply did a ritual that unveiled to them of the existence of the Norn Queen. Deathwatch captured a Lictor which was used in the creation of a serum that could destroy the Queen. Then Uriel, Passanius and Deathwatch guys went on a mission in the Hive Ship.

[@telleqwin7266]

If i remember correctly doesn't it need to also be a first generation nid ? From that specific Queen or is that what Demi meant by node beast ?

[@sneeperysnoopery6716]

To be fair, Guilliman has been seen to be very diplomatic and to ask for things not demand, even though he's a primarch. When he woke back up, he even asked Calgar for permission to resume control of the Ultramarines when he very much could have just taken it and said nothing. Gulli-mum didn't raise a selfish boy. :D

[@lornbaker1083]

It does seem like he was the only one who had a Decent and almost normal Concept of an upbringing, all things considered. He got lucky because he had an adoptive mother who cared about him and Adoptive father who taught him how to be a proper man.

[@RedFourth]

as a nid player, the idea that in lore the tyranids have a brother moon has be thinking of some new sculpt ideas and paint schemes

[@Brigtzen]

don't forget tiamat just... started farming. And also constructing something. :)

[@kamiwriterleonardo6345]

@@Brigtzen MAKE US WHOLE

[@williamhanna9718]

What if this thing is connected to the Tiamat structure?

[@thezambambo2184]

Is the color scheme gonna be red with bone white/yellow? Maybe the rust coloring with blue accents like Isaac?

[@KillerOrca]

Oh I'm liking where this is going

[@hungryfrog3605]

"That is not native to this system" 40k makes me feel a great deal of emotions: joy when something cool or badass happens, disgust at the incompetence or cruelty of its denizens, sadness and fear and plenty of others I'm sure we've all felt. But hearing that, I think this is the first time 40k has every made me feel pure dread.

[@DeadGothicRed]

Props to that one time that a Blood Angel's Chaplin looked into the eye of the Hive Mind and then proceeded to pop the Tormengaunt straight in the dome and watch the cascading tyranid force jump into the "Spicy Water"

[@loganparry2676]

Are you referring to Mephiston?

[@DeadGothicRed]

@loganparry2676 there is that but during the Devastation of Baal there was a scene as I described.

[@matiasyannuzzi9655]

@@loganparry2676 "Xenos! I am chaplain Ordomael, Paternis Sanguis of the Blood Angels, second only to beloved Astorath the Grim. Fight me! In the name of the Emperor, come to my crocius and accept my blessing!"

[@lornbaker1083]

​@@matiasyannuzzi9655 how about no. You don't have enough to tempt us. That unprotected little agro world however looks very tasty.

[@TheKlawwGang888]

"They have taken the bridge and the Second Hall. We have barred the gates but cannot hold them for long. The ground shakes...drums, drums in the deep. We cannot get out. The shadow moves in the dark. We cannot get out. They are coming."

[@ArchangelAzriel1223]

Good reference!

[@draochvar9646]

"Oh No, the Nids have a Deathstar." My brother in the Emperor, the Necrons had a damned WORLD ENGINE! And the Imperium killed it!

[@AngryHomunculus]

Bear in mind, I think it took a whole Space Marine chapter to do it

[@lornbaker1083]

​@AngryHomunculus As well as the destruction of a very very large starship. Neither a whole chapter of marines Or a very Very large starship are cheap to Replace. I can Imagine the only reason the admech Did not throw a massive hissy fit is because they got to mess around with the remains of the world Engine.

[@draochvar9646]

@@lornbaker1083 a comparatively cheap sacrifice to make, compared to what a World Engine could cause.

[@TheYgds]

I think the operative word in both claims is "a". The Necrons had "a" World Engine, and the Imperium was able to deal with that singular entity. When have you ever heard of the Tyranids having just one of anything?

[@draochvar9646]

@@TheYgds That's a lot of assuming there, considering the Necrons are just awakening. I don't think we've seen the last of the World Engines.

[@terrorlizard]

I feel this needs to be said. The Tyranids have a unicron.

[@moga-hunter2410]

And now unicron medley is playing in my head

[@tombombadil7536]

The tyranid planet made me remember the final stage of Starbound, the planet eater, a biological mass with tentacles that smash on planets and eats them, while the parasites that live on it attack and eat the living creatures from the planets

[@lornbaker1083]

Wow spoilers

[@s.k4713]

I’m sorry but the norn emissary kicking a custodians head off is hilarious

[@NT2k6]

Imagine living for 10,000 years, spending your whole life stationed in a continent-sized palace training for battle and defending your lord, and then you finally get to go outside and a bug kicks your head off.

[@sevencakes7125]

I'd like to imagine it looked like the scene from Jason takes Manhattan where Jason punches a dudes head off.

[@zarryld1554]

no fucking way. there's no way

[@s.k4713]

@@sevencakes7125 yes. Absolutely 100% yes.

[@zarryld1554]

I'm going to choose to believe it was a battle it barely won

[@dank_smirk2ndchannel200]

The War of Closed Eyes thing reminds me so much of "There is no war in Ba Sing Se".

[@terminaro]

You know the Imperium is in deeeep trouble when competent leaders start appearing xD "To make them more strong, we'll make 'em less stupid" -GW, probably

[@clementcate4730]

The tendrils map and DK's comment "are they ACTUAL tendrils?" made me think... well, maybe they are actual tendrils :| After all, the atoms that we are made of are like 99% void, and yet here we are. Tyranids could be seen as just the atoms or the cells of a higher being, making up a galactic-sized predatory amoeba, with a galactic mind. Just like our mindless cells and molecules, working all together, add up to higher beings: us. Spoooky D:

[@geoffreyprecht2410]

The human brain and its contents are eldritch and beyond understanding to a bacterium. Similarly, we can assume the Hive Mind is too advanced for a human mind to comprehend. That bit about molecules definitely has me thinking, though. It really is just a matter of scale, isn't it?

[@Electru522]

This has to be one of the coolest explanations of the Tyranids I've seen. Bravo, sir, for making that comparison.

[@guy_autordie]

The galaxies in men in black 1

[@raycearcher5794]

So a Siphonophore the size of a galaxy. That's... I don't like that. Icky. Yikes.

[@svenbrede6151]

Sounds very cool. I, however, wonder whether the Ciaphas Cain novels might be canon. If so, then there is not one but multiple hiveminds and they are likely hostile to each other

[@makehappyfaces2542]

A Tyranid planet? It sounds like a Brotheren Moon from Dead Space. My money is that this might be what that one Hive Fleet that was quietly living on a planet doing secretive things, might have been up to. The name of their fleet escapes me, Bricky has talked about them before.

[@GM-lx7ji]

It's Hive Fleet Tiamat, and that could be it or they could be making a new one in their teriotory? And there is also the chance that this Nyd death star might not be the only one.

[@Brigtzen]

@@GM-lx7ji i was thinking tiamat was building something like what cadia was to stop the warp, but constructing a death star sounds fucking sick too

[@Sorain1]

@@Brigtzen It could be both. The sheer area of the Shadow in the Warp from an entire planet like that could be handy.

[@canyouwriteanythinghere]

The Tyranids looked at the Beast's weaponized moons and said "Hold my biomass."

[@MinersLoveGames]

Hearing that the Tyranids have the equivalent of a Brethren Moon from Dead Space has installed a fear in me like no other. They are coming. They are here. They are hungry.

[@JoshuaAndres]

Personally I think the Flood from Halo are scarier, as it’s hive mind retains the knowledge of those it infects

[@OneNationUnderPug]

I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the physical hive mind of Leviathan.

[@CrazyGecko]

@@JoshuaAndres And who said nids don't?

[@exzyyd392]

@@JoshuaAndres Tyrannids can very competently use their 'weapons' even when they are a seemingly new type. They could be replicating weapons and training from things they've eaten before

[@jackmesrel4933]

​@@CrazyGeckoAt the moment, the hive mind of the nids is a single entity that controls the nids, so it's either a god-like entity that manifest it's will with the nids or the gestalt intelligence of its species, aka all the brainpower of all the nids forming a single will. Unlike the flood, the nids don't get smarter with each species they devour, but rather modify their assemble of subspecies or create new ones with the new genetic material they acquired, so a case like the Grave Mind is unlikely in current lore, but we know GW loves to retcon stuff, so who knows

[@CrazyGecko]

Welp, now we know what made the Silent King sh*t his circuits out and run back to the galaxy from the deep emptiness of space.

[@aganaom1712]

An emissary targeting the lord solar has the same energy as perturabo nuking vulkan. "There. That guy. Him. Nuke him."

[@thezambambo2184]

"GET THAT MOTHERFUCKER"

[@parkerstange851]

Lmao😂

[@gomezmartinez9399]

That whole theory that our galaxy is surrounded by nids is starting to look more and more likely

[@Skiritai]

I think they'll be held off until they can revive the Emperor, then the Emperor, thanks to the death of so many Nids, will using the Biomass and genestealer functions of the Nids will be used to remake the Emperor as a "God."

[@christianbarbosa1257]

If there is a moment for Dorn to come back, it is now, and I would LOVE him coming back!

[@cyanideinmycereal1077]

So true

[@fumarc4501]

We need fire and flame!

[@excaliburstone1294]

Yes we need to fortify that section of the Galaxy.

[@Mythralblade04]

We need Fire, we need Flame, we need a Primarch who meshes with Leontus and cares about the little guy. We need Vulkan.

[@Skiritai]

Guilliman is busy with his Crusades, trying to reunite the Empire. The Lion is off chasing the chaos cunts. There is no Lion or Guilliman to stop the Tyranids, but word has made it across the Imperium that the fighting has reached a pitch, everyone watches with baited breath when Lion and Guilliman hear a familiar voice screaming the name of one of their traitor brothers with such vitriol and disgust, that it stirs something in everyone listening. It is Rogal Dorn, and after he's done with the Tyranids, he's coming for Perturabo!

[@ezequielmorales4221]

19:01 I love the idea of a custodes "getting slow". They are probably still above a Marine but they go "Yep, I'm old now".

[@MetPhD]

30:00 Shy showing taxes for "what's Guilliman doing?" absolutely killed me.

[@IdioticSynergy]

Tonite on Ridiculous Gear: DK becomes a Screamer-Killer after shouting JESUS! so loudly that it shatters glass and dents concrete, Bricky becomes a Librarian in Terminator Armour as his forehead throbs violently with Warp-based shenanigans and Shy becomes a Apothecary Biologis so she can keep her victims alive for longer as she collects samples from them for ''special'' reasons

[@jammedtuba7820]

The consistency of humor in every comment is fantastic. You are doing the emperor's holy work.

[@OrkOfOhio]

@@jammedtuba7820this comment is heresy, Emperor is not capitalized.

[@El_Dissident]

'ery noice

[@IdioticSynergy]

@@El_Dissident Cheers mate

[@IdioticSynergy]

@@jammedtuba7820 as long as people enjoy them, I'll keep making them

[@theticksquad8218]

Personally i think the Swarmlord and the Emissaries are both Primarch Class, like how there are multiple types of primarchs, there are multiple types of tyranid ones, swarm lord being the one that gives buffs to all tyranids by its presence, Emissaries being the big beat-stick.

[@dinodude722]

hearing DK surprised about an individually intelligent and strategic Tyranid, someone has got to tell him the Deathleaper story sometime. deathleaper doesn't nearly have the strength of these Norn Emmissaries, but tyranids having that sort of tactical intelligence and understanding is not at all new.

[@mr.revrac5602]

Or the tyranids that were outnumbered by orks during the octarius war, so they started utilizing hit and run attacks as a way to quickly cut down orks and grow their numbers

[@Skiritai]

He said he was more surprised that they didnt just try and slam against the Imperium's forces, since they usually have the numbers to do so.

[@Deesar_]

Oh man, so leontus is just 40k karl franz. Fuck yeah.

[@cinderheart2720]

"A score of dreadnaughts" A score is 20.

[@viss-kn4iu]

What I find astonishing is the fact that the norn emissary managed to kill six custodians and it wasn’t even fully focused on them. There’s a chance they would’ve been demolished if they were the priority target💀

[@garrettmcmurry1436]

You guys should do the Devastation of Baal for the book club. Talk about kinda nuts essentially all blood angels and their successors join together to fight a tendril going at their home world.

[@eduardodiaz9942]

One of my favourite things about the Tyranids is how every piece of lore for them reads like a Lovecraftian cosmic horror story mixed with Starship Troopers (the movie).

[@foulbeast3904]

39:32 Not only are the tyranids in front, behind, and either side, but on every angle above us and probably below too. They can't get away from us this time.

[@joshuadaley8909]

"This video is sponsored by the 4th Tyrannic War"

[@darkmagpiestudios8222]

Norn Emissary apparently are locked onto the psychic scent of their targets, which is why it kept on going after leontis.

[@123456789123456789re]

I'd say that the swarmlord is more of a primarch than the emissaries. Although the swarmlord has been beaten by the most random people, he is shown to be the smartest tyranid organism when it comes to warfare.

[@ShadowfireReality]

Yeah the Norn Emissary is more like a knight class bug it sounds like

[@Brigtzen]

@@ShadowfireReality it killed 6 *custodes* my brothers in christ thats primarch level

[@bountyhunter628]

​@@BrigtzenI mean, I wouldn't be surprised if a Knight/Titan could kill 6 Custodes too

[@Sorain1]

The thing that gets at me about the Swarmlord is that, 'beaten' doesn't mean you killed it. It's just respawning in a few minutes, so unless you force the swarm back, did you beat it? Because I don't think it sees things that way.

[@ronanoftheborealvalley4353]

​@@BrigtzenSo did the harelquins so they must be primarch level

[@thebrotherscurtin9827]

The emissary sounds more like the Tyrannid Knight equivalent than a primarch to me

[@mr.revrac5602]

Which makes sense considering a knight equivalent is lacking in the Tyranids model range

[@luketfer]

@@mr.revrac5602 Yeah IIRC they're one of the few factions actually lacking a Knight equivalent. Tau have the Stormsurge, Orks have the Stompa, Eldar have the Wraithknight, Necrons Monolith is meant to be their knight IIRC (or the Seraptek from Forgeworld). Only Votann (which are an entirely new army and thus will take probably 1-2 editions to get fully fleshed out, much like the Tau did on their introduction) and Nids lack a 'big centerpiece model of knight size'. Since the Dominatrix (very old epic 40k model that housed a Norn Queen when it went into battle) was basically scout titan sized it would make sense that a Norn Emissary would be slightly smaller and knight sized.

[@hinumayyy7566]

Bricky "its started with something they call "the dorn wall, the dorn wall is an asteroid belt...."| Valrak in the corner smiles as he is mentioned

[@YoBen100]

Tonight on Nova. We are back to investigate the great hive fleet leviathan. With new rule from 10th, all hope is lost as sons of Ultramarines get crumped like the Blood Angels back in Baal. Same beasts, new rules. Welcome to Nova.

[@samueltrusik3251]

Oh boy, a Flesh planet, I LOVE IT!

[@Alpharius93]

Really liking this lore! The Emissaries remind me of the Dimachareon, but all jacked-up... And could the Tyranid death star be what Hive Fleet Tiamet was building all along?

[@iharpo9292]

The whole "new moon" thing was a figure of speech idk why everyone seems to thinknit was literal

[@zergrush_9704]

​@@iharpo9292what? There is literally bio moon

[@iharpo9292]

@@zergrush_9704 i thought he was referring to the tyranids blottong out the sky from earlier in the video cause bricky described it like a moon, but right at the end he mentioned the bio moom and i went oh fuck

[@idccharls6003]

Imperium seeing a planet size flesh thing Tuska: first time?😏

[@keaering5183]

I hope they make an ork detachment called Tuska's Demin Stompas

[@citizenkrowwe1918]

"Who is going to say no to a primarch?" ... glances over at Logan Grinmar telling Robbie where to shove it.

[@PattPlays]

I BETTER GET SOME MORE 'EAT THE GALAXY IN ONE BITE' GRIMDARK IN THIS!

[@leifkruse3726]

If you want to see more of Hawk but as much in the background as before, I have a new trilogy for you. GODS OF MARS : an expedition beyond the light of the emperor. Awesome Admech shenanigans, Black templar zealously, a free thinking rogue trader and insight on the work>life of humans in the lower decks of an Arch Mechanicus.

[@RocRolDis]

This series made me dislike black templars even more. I finished the second book and hated the ending so much that I haven't even entertained the idea of finishing the trilogy.

[@leifkruse3726]

@@RocRolDis you should give it a go the powerfactions will have a team-up and the vanity of the templars are challenged. i think this helps saving their role in this book.

[@RocRolDis]

@@leifkruse3726 I'm good. It wasn't just them. Galatea had been long getting on my nerves

[@leifkruse3726]

@@RocRolDis that's fair XD

[@lornbaker1083]

Glory to the Speranza. Glory to the ship that can stop time itself and repair the wounds of existence in a breath. Glory be to the motivator force of her engines. Bless it be her fine and strong hull to keep us safe. And praise to her Cogitators and computer systems that keep us on course. If she is the new ark mechanicus. Then a golden age awaits.

[@begonexenos]

Welp, Tyranids have a brother moon from Dead Space now.

[@theclown3967]

"There's enough of a variation with that little gold pauldron." -Shy process to show a picture of Dredd with the same gold pauldron. Lmao. Never change Shy

[@captainflapjax7240]

A score is 20, so the Norn Emissary killed at least 11 dreadnoughts at once. Also, DK's audio was a little low in parts

[@supercuban3000]

I FIND THE IDEA OF A BUG THAT THINKS OFFENSIVE!

[@antimuppet]

Yeah - Norn Queens go back a long time. I think of them like techno-organic STC's. They have vast genetic knowledge and engineer and create what the fleet needs.

[@aidanthornton173]

*Leontus:* What do you want? *Princeps:* What? *Leontus:* What do I have to give you, for you to commit your forces to my cause? *Princeps:* I'm gonna need a 70 inch Plasma Wide-screen TV. *Leontus:* Really, Ok I guess... *Princeps:* With Netflix. *Leontus:* Do you want it to be 3D as well? *Princeps: NO THAT'S A STUPID GIMMICK AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT!*

[@matijasostojic4288]

Wow how the hell didn't i get the joke until the end.

[@aidanthornton173]

@@matijasostojic4288 To be fair, me writing it down doesn't do the actual scene any real justice.

[@callsignkit6930]

0:36 "... all the HD posters you can shake a stick at." Sure DK, lots of... sticks... are being shaken at the HD Posters. Sticks. Not gonna lie I thought I heard something else at first and I had to replay the plug twice. Also: I immediately bought the new poster print.

[@RelativelyBest]

My assumption would be that the Norn Emissaries are directly controlled by the Norn Queens, sort of like their personal battlefield avatars. Presumably they can only have one at a time, which is why there were just three of them.

[@gorblintown8836]

“What is a single voice, compared to a magnificent chorus?”

[@lornbaker1083]

But what is that compared to the magnificent orchestra of the high mind itself

[@izzymosley1970]

If norn embassy are that strong it really makes me wonder how much stronger the swarmlord must have gotten after the octaroas war since I assume it's stronger than the norn embassy's.

[@mr.revrac5602]

Doubt it, its weaker than bio titans which is basically what this is.

[@thefeatherbird_]

Swarmy is just a commander, these are specifically made to be killing machines.

[@TheYgds]

At the moment, the Swarmlord is considered unique, learning and becoming more formidable with each incarnation. However, I doubt it is the only organism that the Hive-mind stores and incarnates from world to world. The Swarmlord isn't even a unique organism in the conventional sense, as it can manifest simultaneously on multiple worlds when the Hive-Mind requires it. There may be many organisms, whose psychic presence, experiences and special properties are stored within the gestalt will of the Hive-Mind and its Norn Queens for deployment when the situation demands it. It seems the Norn Emissaries may fall into this class. Just because the Swarmlord is the most potent command organism yet to be seen, does not mean it is the greatest one the Hive-Mind can deploy. One organism that we haven't seen in a long time is the Tyranid Dominatrix, which literally has a Hive-Tyrant embedded into it as a symbiote weapon. It was as far above a Hive-Tyrant as a Hive-Tyrant was above a termagant. It was also a bio-titan, iirc the largest known Tyranid bio-titan. Of course, they'll never make a model of that these days because you don't want the kiddies asking Mom and Dad for a "Dominatrix model" for Christmas...there might be a misunderstanding.

[@izzymosley1970]

@@TheYgds I wonder if the swarmlord will because primarch tier it might be possible because of its adaptation but the primarch's have special souls the swarmlord might not be able to replicate.

[@thefeatherbird_]

@TheYgds all tyrants minds are saved and reused like the swarmlord's. Theres many named ones in the codexes and novels, like dagon and the nephilim king

[@mandos6145]

I woulda ended the final quote with "he gazed at the collosal shape, and so too did it gaze back"

[@902100101]

This isn't just a random tyrannid attack, this is the worst kind of tyrannid attack...a COORDINATED tyrannid attack

[@902100101]

And because it had to get worse...the tyrannids have a fuckin living nid-planet. VULCAN WHERE ARE YOU PLEASE COME BACK and bring the HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY Flamer!!!

[@marcgid1174]

The Tiamat hive fleet was terraforming a world into what was essentially a giant tyrants psychic thing so that may be what the moon Death Star thing is.

[@ArcturusMinsk]

"Bonesword is readeeeeeeee" - Muchonyd Randy Savage

[@ColdNorth0628]

The Tyranids: *Has a Brother moon Bio planet* The Emperor in his chair out of desperation: "SIGMARRRRRRRR" In all seriousness, with that Bioplanet being out and about I deathly think we are getting close to a endtimes scenario and we are going to see the grimdark of the universe become everyone vs nids, no holds bar. Everyone is working hand in hand and it is literally going to be a panic and fear driven fight of "I hate you but IM NOT BLIND"

[@localidiotnumber792]

Everyone in 40k just- "Well I enjoy being racist but I can't be racist if we're all dead"

[@TheYgds]

FYI a "score" is 20. Therefore, the Norn Emissary was able to match the might of 20 dreadnoughts in the narrative.

[@chambers0071]

As a Imperial loyalist and a irl Christian, i must say, THERE'S TOO MANY IDIOTS WITHIN THE IMPERIUM 32:40

[@s.k4713]

Inquisitor…we found them.

[@chambers0071]

@@s.k4713 I dont care no more! You know its true! These dimwits will be the death of the Imperium!

[@dylanlangstaff9749]

I love how lord solar is just a regular person and is by far the biggest target by the tyranids simply because of his tactical genius and ability to motivate people which is so amazing

[@onisparda2546]

Wild idea but maybe that flesh planet is going to Catachan Hostile Planet vs Hostile Bio Planet

[@carlosmaciel2676]

As I said before... I Really hope those theories about Valdor being the king in yellow and coming back with an army on steroids to save the day are real because... WE ARE FCKED...

[@Skiritai]

Trust in the Emperor!

[@ShugoTenchuu]

I haven't read the book or anything, but listening to the story here I like to think the six custodes that were killed by the norn emissary did not make a mistake. It wasn't that they couldn't dodge the emissary's attacks, it was that they chose not to. You have to remember that they were there to protect Lord Solar Leontus, and whether by Imperial Tarot or logical deduction, they knew Leontus had to live at all costs. There is no doubt in my mind that a custodes would have the tactical awareness to realize their death could cause Leontus to live for just a few precious seconds longer. Just imagine the humility, to be among the finest of all the Imperium's warriors, but still lay down your life for an unenhanced human. All because you know he can still do things that you cannot. The Emperor Protects.

[@zergrush_9704]

I think this is not the case, because kick your head of your shoulders takes like one second, not too much time I guess, so this doesn't slow him down.

[@matijasostojic4288]

I doubt that. The custodes are really good at what they do but there is always something better, faster and stronger so they did probably just get overwhelmed by the emisary. I don't think the extra second or probably even less from them getting their heads hit off would have really done more than if they had dodged it and kept fighting.

[@wustenfuchsgaming1226]

Oh they found one of the Oceandrinkers, Airtakers, Mineralconsumers. It was about Time

[@lornbaker1083]

But they still haven't found the mind eater. But it's out there floating away chittering in happiness waiting for more minds To Feast on.

[@kgp277]

Guilleman would demand but he is very polite. He did nicely ask to take control of the operation when he first woke up in the middle of a shitstorm 😅

[@lornbaker1083]

"Wartime is no excuse For not showing respect and being polite. You will accomplish more procurement by being polite and personable then you will by being demanding and Hostile"~ Robert no doubt said this.

[@braith117]

I want to say that there was some lore at one point of a Norn Queen taking the field on the back of a biotitan called a Dominatrix.

[@americanman3745]

My poor Raptors, finally get lore mentions only to be eaten

[@TheGodOfWarhammer]

I feel Cap is not only skilled enough, but intelligent, and patient enough to properly teach everyone based on their strengths and weaknesses

[@xyzen9673]

my favorite description of tyranids will always be the one line in battle fleet gothic 2, and its just a single sentence which is "HOLY EMPEROR I CAN HEAR THEM IN THE WALLS!"

[@RevokFarthis]

So... giant tyranid moon, in the middle of Hive Fleet Leviathan? Anybody else getting Starcraft Overmind vibes?

[@lornbaker1083]

All hail the overmind! All hail the overmind!

[@rinsgravity2007]

I hope one day Bricky reads some of the books where sisters willingly choose to go to chaos.

[@derpyboi8591]

Unless I missed something the only official chaos sisters are the one Slaanesh broke and keeps in their court, and a minor order that got tricked and temporarily mind controlled by tzeentch.

[@rinsgravity2007]

@@derpyboi8591 theres a couple black library books like heart and soul that have them. White dwarf also use to have a group of khorne sisters called Iconoclasts that would get attention now and than. In one of the chaos codexes, it has chaos sister passages.

[@derpyboi8591]

Tyrnaids: *bullying humans* Drukhari: *yoinking the nids* XD

[@khylerbane4523]

For the longest time I never believed that their could ever be another Lord Solar that could surpass or compete with Macharius. You could make them be a Primarch and I still wouldn’t compare them to Macharius. He was too legendary that you are just never going to compete with such a beast of a man. And like people like Cain, Marbo, canoness Sethano, Eisenhorn, and Yarrick, Macharius is just a normal human man. Like you and me. That being said… Leontus is starting to give space Alexander the Great a run for his money.

[@randomtechpriest]

Lord Solar Leontus is literally just 40k Karl Franz and i love it

[@archmagosdeciuskronen1501]

The Norn Queens likely sent the Emissaries with very clear Synapse Memories of thousands of years of Lictor and Swarmlord observations and testing against the Imperium

[@jizburg]

Lord solar is just a litle guy.

[@Frosty-kz4om]

Whilst people like to laugh at the satire of the whole tyranid conspiracy thing as though it's pure comedy, my perspective is just that it's pretty cool of Black Library to include a variety of realistic societal responses to situations like this. That's just the way people are.

[@Zaprozhan]

It reminded me of COVID responses from conspiracy nuts, religious zealots, and Facebook Moms.

[@exzyyd392]

It's the way people are and it's funny. Y'know, like satire is supposed to be

[@TheLofren]

56:39, stories of genestealers, lictors and other bioforms plotting and executing similar ambushes, it does not require something as mighty as a norn emissary. In general tyranids are strategists and plan their attacks accordingly, the thing is that most of the time the best plan is to win by attrition because they outnumber and their individuals don't matter at all.

[@mr.revrac5602]

As said in devestation of baal, the prey always ran out of bullets before the Hive mind ran out of bodies

[@minhducnguyen9276]

​@@mr.revrac5602 And in the book it's also said that the Tyranid could have sent more powerful Lifeforms, they just decided that the Imperium are not strong enough to warrant such measures.

[@mau48310]

What a great time to be Nyds man I'm hyped . Honestly the death star could be what hive fleet tiamat has been building in secret all this time. Or we might get to see a queen ❤

[@keaering5183]

Yeah that's what I figured it was.

[@tenebrisnarud9738]

Hearing Nids go ham like this, makes me proud to be a Nid player

[@seanrussell4894]

I can't remember exactly, but wasn't angron restrained by like 10-12 of the custodes once and only killed 1? Norns are insane. They did all this damage while also being behind enemy lines with no assistance.

[@Brigtzen]

that's the exact thing i was thinking about when i heard they killed like 6 custodes. That is like, almost straight up primarch level. Angron tore a custodes apart, and the norn kicked a custodes head clean off... i am happy to serve the 4 armed emperor!

[@TheKiira25]

The Emissary knows that Trajann can have a 2+ Inv, that's why he went after Leontus 😂

[@TheBrood525]

Watching the first season of True Detective reminded me of this, and this is just my head canon, but I think the Tyranids represent the Universe’s white blood cells. Like nature created a “consciousness outside of itself” as Rust describes it in True Detective- sentient life, the chaos gods, the warp as a result of all that- and determined that it was a mistake needing to be purged from its body. Like all life is a parasite that just keeps taking and taking, so the proverbial Universe decided to take matters into its own hands by making the anti-sentience: the Tyranid Hivemind, to wipe it all out and start with a clean slate again.

[@Brigtzen]

Refering to the Tyranids as a "consciousness outside itself" and as something made to wipe the universe clean fits so fucking well.

[@THExRISER]

Another Fermi Paradox explanation.

[@jackmesrel4933]

I dunno, they're too biological imo for this theory to apply, if they were more abstract in form it would fit better. I'm more of the opinion that they're the end result of predatory evolution, a species as advanced as us or even more but is driven only by the base instincts of all living beings, consume and reproduce, to the point that even their intellect is only developed to find more ways to eat more and faster. Still, we know jack shit about the origin of the nids, so its a matter of which headcanon sounds more appealing to you

[@robisnon1236]

The problem with that is the universe is all encompassing by definition, and life and consciousness can therefore not be separated from it, as they are a part of it. As I think of it, all consciousness is the universe dreaming of itself, life emerging from matter as a wave rises in an endless ocean.

[@ryantice1186]

Kind of like the biggest theory on what the Eldrazi actually are in Mtg

[@JonJohJameson]

1:06:35 "Squirming, contorting and ever-expanding...this horror must be unmade!" The Ancestor - Darkest Dungeon

[@CrazyJabberwock]

The flesh planet reminds me of the Brethren Moons from dead space, as well as Planet Remina