How iPhone was created | Tony Fadell and Lex Fridman

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Tony Fadell is an engineer and designer, co-creator of the iPod, iPhone, Nest Thermostat, and author of the new book Build: An Unorthodox Guide to Making Things Worth Making.
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[@trueromani7262]

My brother used to have a motorola rockr. People wouldn't get it now but having music on your phone was a HUGE thing back then because getting radio on your phone alone used to be a selling point. My brother had the one where keys would disappear to display ipod buttons when you clicked the music button. I still remember the awe i felt when i saw tech like that for the first time. Today, even folding phones don't strike my fancy.

[@buda3d2007]

when sony ericcsson phone got advanced LED screens is when it blew my mind, and I had an ipod touch 4th gen before I had a smart phone, I paired it to my flip phone 2010

[@trueromani7262]

@@buda3d2007 Man, nokia used to make the most wackiest of phones. My uncle had one that ran gba games, then there was the one that looked like O symbol in nokia, then my friend had one that looked like a camcorder, his dad had one that was like a laptop, then nokia's Xpressmusic line of devices. It was was very experimental but somehow they kept at it. The great thing was that they were all repairable. You could easily access the battery and change it if you wanted. It was all intricately built with microscopic screws. The smartphone that I use now is put together with glue. What times are we in. Can you imagine that? There's a good chance that all that old tech is sitting in a plastic heap somewhere or maybe recycled and now lost to time.

[@Danny-wv8ec]

"today even folding phones don't strike my fancy" That's exactly how I feel, I was a kid in the 90s and early 2000s and tech was more exciting. Now we're accustomed to everything.

[@trueromani7262]

@@davidmontgomery1442 whats even the advantage of having a folding phone? It looks cool? That does not justify its hefty price tag. I dont use social media at all so its all just fugazi to me. Im 25 btw.

[@entx8491]

​@@buda3d2007 that never happened

[@gustavosaliola]

As a Graphic and Motion Designer for almost 30 years, and having bought the Original 2007 iPhone, is mesmerising to see and hear Tony Fadell describe Jobs on taking "the oposite marketing road". So often, MKT dept. only confuses and gets in the way, and this very time, Jobs aced the way it presented that really "Revolutionary Product". Everybody got hugely surprised at the possibilities of having all 3 devices in one. The rest was history. Those where the real innovation days for Apple.

[@edwinschaap5532]

The fun thing about the presentation was that there was a big applause for the “widescreen iPod with touch controls” and the “revolutionary mobile phone” because that is what everybody was familiar with. The third “breakthrough internet communicator” only got some small applause because people had no idea what that ment. Looking back, the internet communicator in your pocket was the big thing.

[@podcastsyoutube5524]

Great interview. Tony is a brilliant storyteller.

[@Pizuski]

Thanks for all podcasts lex. Youre the man

[@360Pros]

Why do so many entrepreneurs treat competition as the "bully in the playground"? They're all trying to do the same thing as the other which is to dominate the market. I'm not judging, but it's just interesting to me that some of the most intelligent people in the world are oblivious to their own in-group behaviour and hypocrisy. But from competition and tension comes creativity and innovation so is it just a necessity?

[@Pizuski]

@@360Pros its a dog eat dog world. In that world, if your not first, your last. Shake n bake

[@dosgos]

There is a great interview video with the creators of the Palm phone. That was beloved and could have leveraged it's PDA experience, but major defects probably crippled any momentum.

[@veejay41]

Microsoft and other companies were thinking about compatibility, while apple was thinking about a new way of being. Very interesting!

[@doemis8573]

Microsoft is still one of the biggest teck companies in the world. They clearly did something right all these years.

[@apn42]

Apparently there were two competing teams developing the iPhone. Steve "fired" the leader of the loosing team by deleting his contact at the presentation, not a very nice move.

[@Jeffro5564]

Steve jobs is still remembered for a very long time while everyone he fired are lost throughout history and they make books and diss about Steve cos they are B Players and A players will always win

[@Alesistx2023]

@@Jeffro5564 hahahahah

[@xenonexe2558]

Ahem... That would be Tony Fadell's number! Google the pres.

[@TheWefikus]

Bruh. That was Tony Fadell 😅

[@patricknyiti5303]

This is the soul of Product discovery ..!!

[@crnocommentary]

Magic the iphone was I waited in line for the very first iphone in June of 2007 outside of my local Cingular wireless (ATnT now) you had to be there it was a different era how amazing and advanced the iphone was compared to the competition at that point of time

[@WRNPR]

You can see the RESPECT Tony feels talking about Steve Jobs

[@tomworkout5330]

看得出这位老哥非常不负乔帮主，居然说他演技很好

[@jeffreychongsathien]

I think Fadell was on the outside of this. Forstall was on the inside.

[@UltraDoug]

Meanwhile I’m just staring at Fadell’s watch. Very nice bauhaus inspired Junghans 😎👍🏼

[@lnc-to4ku]

Intersestimg to hear some of the 'behind the scenes'

[@fochiller]

Had no idea Howie Mendel used to be an engineer at Apple

[@Officialvvalentino]

Steve Jobs’ genius was being a salesman. He realized no way in hell he could sell laptops so he created mini laptops and called them iPhones 📲 #gameover

[@mykhailomykytyn]

Is the guest guy tweaking a little? And Lexy just keep saying "yeah" :::))))

[@adelinaquijano1083]

I thanks so much my team.. I don't know how to remove this .

[@Petarkruzevksi]

Hey Lex,you still push for Vax mandate?

[@Smith.S.sStocHasticSs]

thought this was going in a different direction. lol . was ready 2 defend him!! 😂 haha faked me out. good stuff.

[@unrealnews]

I feel sorry for Lex sometimes. There's so much great stuff coming from his guest, but he's looking down at some little thing his own hands are doing. There's a sense in which he's missing his own show.

[@Myopinionmatters78]

I had a Zoom. Thought it was so cool lol

[@inrainbowman]

why, if it isnt mr. astroturf himself lex friderman

[@sammysam2615]

By a team of engineers and scientists who got zero credit. Steve took all the credit and thanked no one. Pretty shallow of him

[@libertyprime9307]

Unless he agreed to make his scientists and engineers famous, seems like a square deal. I swear people like you just love to manufacture outrage.

[@sammysam2615]

@@libertyprime9307 If anyone is outraged by what I said, that's one them. People like you don't like it when other's don't share or agree with your opinion.

[@libertyprime9307]

@@sammysam2615 1. Nobody is outraged by what you said. When I say you're manufacturing outrage, I'm just saying you're making a mountain out of a molehill. 2. I'm good with you sharing an opinion I don't agree with, but that doesn't mean I won't call you out on a public forum because you said something stupid. 3. Maybe try defending your actual position about why it is wrong to pay employees to do a job without making them famous. I gave a very quick and concise explanation of why that's a fair deal and didn't respond to that at all.

[@harold3165]

Here's a video of him thanking them all for their hard work: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWSZaJ2gn9iFgKc

[@MojoMachin3]

@@libertyprime9307 It's not a fair deal when engineers and developers lost their jobs, got divorced and had to go through a tumultous time to create something but Steve Jobs got to be called the genius behind it. Yes, he dreamed it but it was the engineers and developers who made it a reality. It is well documented that it was a nightmarish situation for the developers and engineers. So it is not manufactured outrage, he was just stating facts. Yes, he thanked them but it doesnt take away from the fact that they went through a great deal of struggle. I know he is a hero to most people but he did put those scientists, engineers and developers through hell. Coldfusion has a great documentary about the making of the Iphone and it highlights @sammysam2615's point kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGWyYWOAr52FZpY

[@fatalconceit9713]

Not sure how I feel about Fadell talking about iPhone. AFAIK, he was not a central figure in its creation. iPod? Absolutely.

[@fear416]

Central? No. Influental? Absolutely.

[@eatsomepizza420]

This story doesnt add up, because Bill Burr tells exactly, how iphone was invented.

[@harold3165]

No, he really doesn't. Burr is a funny grumpy comedian but knows very little in the grand scheme of things. He just repeated the same old "Steve Jobs did nothing!" narrative.

[@ThePatrickFamilyBand]

Dude what a great Bill Burr clip 😆

[@hassaanawan367]

He doesn't look even remotely close to bill burr.

[@abdullah82m]

Underrated comment

[@eatsomepizza420]

@@hassaanawan367 I think you are right. He really doesnt. i was referring to Bill Burr joke.... youtube it

[@kaymorrice8141]

Interesting!

[@dolyharianto]

And the guy was fired after the launch of iPhone 1

[@brendanwilliams8235]

U can tell a salesman from a mile away. Enthusiasm, whether manufactured or organic, seems forced when describing the thing that will make you money if sold by you... the enthused

[@ernienieves3229]

I miss Steve.

[@909sickle]

Jeff Bezos is working too hard

[@sjh3099]

This guy has huge arms

[@jorgezamudio8457]

WOW

[@alibaba855]

Just confirms that Apple designs things for the thoughtless masses...the Kardashian of the industry

[@markmccreadie6212]

Ease of use is the goal. Also a phone that lasts unlike android which is irrelevant in 2 years max

[@adelinaquijano1083]

I love my community

[@Jim_Snape]

My Hitachi G1000 did everything the iPhone did 3 years before the iPhone was "invented".

[@snebold]

Yeah right. Dream on.

[@teamtoken]

lol no it did not

[@Jim_Snape]

@@teamtoken My memory is perfect probably.

[@aiansoria2601]

3rd

[@birdo623]

Praying mantis arms

[@jasonrose1758]

Never imagined you were about to destroy society....?

[@JamesTudsbury]

What? Which society?

[@jasonrose1758]

@@JamesTudsbury Human society

[@JamesTudsbury]

@@jasonrose1758 doesn't feel very destroyed where I live, are you genuinely talking about the whole world, or where you live? How many societies have you lived in to verify this? How did Tony destroy society? This is alarming to learn, but I can't see any evidence of this so I'm a bit perplexed by your comment.

[@GibsonFender]

Big ego

[@Jeffro5564]

Yeah this guy really hates Steve jobs he even wrote a chapter called assholes. Disgruntled employees who are B players who want to be A players and will never be cos they are loses

[@AlexeyZelditch]

Lex Fridman is very boring, and his face and jaws move like in slow motion. Not his guests which mostly entertaining