Lexmoto ZSX-R vs Yamaha YS Comparison

Putting these bike's side-by-side, Dan shows you how much bang you get for your buck.
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[@ShortCycle.]

Nice comparison of the two bikes. I was comparing the two but went for the Yamaha (low miles pre-owned) as although arguably less of a machine it has a significantly higher resale value then the Lexmoto equivalent. Although your products seem to be getting better and better going by this channel, they seem by most to be seen as consumables with a comparatively short service life.

[@mohameddawodallajabo9545]

For sure now i know where to go as i am looking to have the 125cc to prepare for my A test, Lexmoto seems to be my option so far. Great staff pointed out thank you!!

[@SocialMisfits]

Lexmotos are unreliable bikes in the long run and won’t hold up well

[@mohameddawodallajabo9545]

@@SocialMisfits wouldn’t it be an ideal bike for learning & move on - just to pass the test!

[@SocialMisfits]

@@mohameddawodallajabo9545 id much rather a 2nd hand ybr for about £800 than a lexmoto theres a reason no motorcycle shops want to go near the bikes and its because theyre cheap the bolts on the bike break all the time when you try to undo them and general handling is just crappy when compared to a yammie or a honda

[@JDMz]

@@SocialMisfits well that's bullshit. I've had an lxr witch I've neglected and also looked after. It had 11k miles before I sold it. Bought it new with zero issues. 🤷‍♀️

[@michaeljameslawrence2965]

I like the look of this bike

[@brucegroom1929]

Big supporter of Lexmoto. Innovative and willing to learn. I'm in my 50s, have full license, but like 125s and have had 2 new Lexmoto and 2 new UM in 4 years. Varying quality on electrics and response is dependent on the dealer (particularly UM). Against lower end Yamaha YS though, , I agree I'd choose ZSXR for value and take a chance there would be few issues. Unfortunately in the end , unresolved issues and lack of response resulted in my buying MT125 (again new.) No comparison. From the fantastic showroom, to the brilliant build quality, with 15hp, ABS etc. To the instant dealer response to any query etc It's a different world. Once again, working in sales I admire what Lexmoto are doing, but a straightforward comparison, is never a straightforward comparison.

[@mrpantur7280]

I find it funny they tried to compare with a Yamaha. Yamaha is 10/10 quality I've had 3 and have never had any issues at all !!. All of my bikes were high mileage.

[@mrginga4044]

Im 39 and inly just now looking to getting into bikes i like the look of the zsx f and the lxr se hoping to have saved enough money in 5 months either way I cant wait to get on one but 5 months might not be enough time to pick one lol

[@brandeneaton8096]

I’m having a lot of trouble with my rear brake on the ZSXR it’s to high and uncomfortable and when I adjust it down and then use it it’s touching the exhaust? I can’t find a song after market one or any solution to fix this?

[@obvio______3875]

why did you use the older version of the ZSX-R?

[@RJHMotorbikeTraining]

Any schools got any feedback to this brand? We use Honda CB125F Suzuki GSX125, Yamaha YS125 and Kawasaki Z125 across our School’s because of their quality and reliability when teaching.

[@MrSkeedle]

half the price double the bike. this is why I have a zsx-r hahahha. great vid. hopefully people see this before buying. my only issue to raise is like some of the cheaper parts. break pads on mine are squeaky etc, fuel pump went due to cheap design etc. obviously things to just improve. maybe worth spending a tad more on. especially the fuel pumps. cant compromise on those! other than that. perfect bike so far!

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

Thanks for the feedback. Always happy to work towards improvements :) Happy riding

[@daveallen3607]

Cool if u want something for a year or so. But the yammie will still be running in ten yrs the chinese one will be in a scrap yard in about 3 yrs . Getting better but nah stick to big brands

[@mickohara9138]

I'd still buy the Yamaha. If your needs change then at least you'll have a bike you can actually sell or px for a decent amount. Not saying the Lexmoto is a bad bike, I've not ridden one. It may well be really robust. Be interested to hear the servicing costs for the first two years, coupled with, what is very likely to be, eye-watering depreciation (don't blame me, check autotrader) after the warranty period. This bike is certainly cheap to buy. Time will tell if it's cheap to own. I don't think.it's helpful to say they were built in the same city. That's specious reasoning. There's a McDonald's in the same city as Claridges. One serves cheap food but the other is much less disgusting. Meaningless. It's about quality across the whole process. Yamaha don't have to convince the world of their reliability. Lexmoto, for now at least, have some work ahead of them.

[@user-wh2fd2yx2y]

Fantastic price for the money! As far as i can see it offers much more for the money! Although i must admit I hate linked braking! I find it more dangerius on the loose stuff with a tendency for the front to lock and down you go. For people who ride they know that some times you need the back brake to work independently on its own.

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

The linked braking is indeed something that has caused discussion. Ultimately the decision was made by Europe. The alternative would be ABS systems but the price difference is in the region of $200. One alternative would be to consider custom routing of the brake hoses to remove the rear brake link. Unfortunately as a manufacturer, we cannot have this as standard 😉

[@user-wh2fd2yx2y]

@@lexmotomotorcycles Yeah i get that and its not a criticism. I get its an EU law! Although I'm not a fan of abs either. I get it for bigger bikes, but abs and linked brakes on a 125 or 250 dual sport, or any bike that might be used on the rough or for green laning is in my experience more dangerous. Im sure if you ask anyone that use these bikes off road they would concur. Saying that I'm loving lexmoto and what you are trying to do! Lexmoto allows people to be able to afford to ride without worrying about costs! Its affordable and fun! Keeping the costs as low whilst trying to continually improve and some of these bikes are fantastic! Not only that, but allowing people to engage in the process is marketing genious😉. I think for me reliability is the way forward with the engines rather than getting ultimate HP. Saying that its always nice to have both!😁 Keep up the good work guys! 👊

[@fredblogsmac.5697]

i disagree, if you hit the loose stuff at speed your in trouble no matter what brakes you have

[@Dwainpipe21]

While you are correct that linked brakes can cause issues while riding off road when used in typical British winters or in an emergency situation on road they are much safer and not far off a good abs setup especially with new or inexperienced riders where they tend to not use the front brake hard enough and use to much rear and lock it up also if used on a scooter or maxi scoot you can just use the left lever for both brakes except in an emergency when you would use both leaving you right hand free for just the throttle which makes town riding in stop start traffic really easy going .

[@MrSkeedle]

I've never had ant issues with the linked braking. I feel it's so subtle I cant even feel it...

[@tgrainman6678]

I've had the YS since November. Back then I was in this very predicament of buying a new bike with Lexmoto (Viper) or a used "Japenese" bike for the same price. After a couple months of consideration and asking a lot of questions on Facebook pages, at dealerships, and with friends and family I went for the YS. I've had no problems honestly, yes the exhaust is starting to corrode but I think that is expected with cheaper 125cc motorbikes, unfortunately. Also, I'm not a fan of the drum break, yes it provides adequate braking power but it is very outdated and I just don't feel like its necessary in 2020. I think the ZSX-R looks a lot better with the red wheels and upside-down forks but I think the biggest factor for me was the longevity of the motorcycle. With the YBR being as successful as it was installed a great deal of confidence in me to go for the YS. That being said, Lexmoto has fast become a big name in the 125cc market in the UK and as time goes on and potential customers get to see how these good looking machines hold up I think Lexmoto will edge it for sure.

[@eraldorh]

You just dont need a rear disk brake on a 125 you cant be going fast enough for it to make a real difference. Drum brakes also work much better when its wet compared to a disk brake. It is dated tho.

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

Thanks for the comment. Really appreciate the insight. We'll see what we can do to better demonstrate longevity for the future :)

[@JDMz]

@@eraldorh a rear disk is more reliable than a drum.

[@speedbird5409]

I'm really stuck between getting the ZSX-F and ZSX-R they both look great! I find that my local dealers are selling the bikes for £2,000 instead of the £1700/1800 price tags which has me really confused. I've also heard of superbike factory, are they reliable? I cant wait to get a hold of one of these bikes 😁

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

Challenge the dealer to enquire why they are charging a higher price than the website. The OTR prices should include the Registration and Tax + numberplate but other things may also be included.

[@speedbird5409]

@@lexmotomotorcycles I went to a new dealer and purchased a ZSX R in blue Delivery expected for October I'm so excited!

[@MadCatz900]

When are you guys going to make a 600cc or similar, would be good to see that :)

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

We do have the LXR 380 which is perfect for the A2 market! :D

[@theflyingfrenchman9760]

Hello Lexmoto team. Recently bought the Zsx-r. Great commuter. Should it come with a tool kit bag under the seat?

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

I believe so yes, please speak with the selling dealer for confirmation.

[@theflyingfrenchman9760]

Lexmoto UK . Thanks. I will check with them on my next service.

[@markpulling12]

I'll go lexmoto any day ....just keep on top of it with cleaning ,lube and maintenance and it'll run and run Ps do both the zsxr and f models have gear indicators ... regards mark

[@kevindarkstar]

While I'm not saying that your bikes are bad, I think the answer to your question of why is the yam more expensive is due to the higher quality control and build quality, as has been pointed out a lot of these yamaha bikes go on for many years especially the engine, and whilst as you point out a lot of these little bikes are produced in the same place in China, but I get the feeling that the big names put a much greater requirement for proper quality inspection and control which must meet their requirements before they put their names on those bikes. But I do feel that companies like lexmoto and a few other companies have raised the bar over the last few years on this front.

[@scottmccoid8647]

Can the lexmoto adrenaline be taken to a off road track just a beginner track no drastic jumps lol

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

Hi Scott, I can confirm that the Lexmoto Adrenaline is a road bike. Please note that you may void any remaining warranty on the bike if you are the first owner.

[@bamber119]

From the front you could have turned them around and I wouldn't have known. They're quite similar apart from the decals.

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

We always try to have a very close model to compare it with.

[@loooooopy]

and in ten years time? so many things have broken on my friend's bike, and now he wishes he built an older honda like me.

[@obvio______3875]

As soon as you said rear of the bike. I knew the Yamaha would have drum. Seems to be a pattern 😂. Also did you get a new editor or something as the video seemed to have more editing then normal?

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

Yes, We've got a few more chaps in the Media team :) This video was the work of Mark :)

[@missinglink6676]

Not so keen on Lex ZSX-R style, for me it’s the Lex-ZXB all the way and with the change left over I could probably buy the Michigan as well and still top up both fuel tanks to boot. Just wish I had the money to buy one of them.😾

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

If you put your mind to it I'm sure you will get there! :D Saving money can take time but it is always worth it in the end!

[@exposun7857]

India model bike?

[@CptLuckyy]

I guess with the difference in price is Yamaha's logo lol.. I think by looks the ZSX-R looks like the better bike by far. The price of the YS is just insane looks like it should only be worth £1400-£1600. This is why I bought a Isca because I really like the Lexmoto brand

[@charliebigley599]

I own an Isca too. It’s a quality bike.

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

There was a point where we thought the Isca might be a fairer fight. TBH the ZSB even holds its own against the YS

[@maycrotch8576]

@@lexmotomotorcycles I would like a lexmoto myself but they seem to be a lot more expensive in Ireland than the UK.

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

@@maycrotch8576 We've tried working with our Dublin dealer to establish distribution but unfortunately, they are the only contact there at the moment. We have distributor options available if you know of a suitable company to work with us. Hope to have more Lexmoto available in Irelan for the future.

[@maycrotch8576]

@@lexmotomotorcycles I've noticed you have a dealer in northern ireland in kickstart motorcycles but again the prices are significantly higher than in mainland UK. If they were just a bit cheaper I'd love to buy an isca.

[@mitchellnix5274]

A bit of a no brainer really. Buy the Yamaha if you like your labels and Lexmoto if you are smarter than that.

[@mixedracebajan6119]

You should do a 125cc V twin.

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

The V-Twin 125cc models are quite a bit more pricey and so far we've not taken the chance. That may change in the future if we find the right model.

[@v8-m8-]

Nice video but If I don’t have much money sure id go for the cheaper option the lexmoto but if I do it would be Yamaha just because it’s more reliable. from what I heard and seen about the cheaper lexmoto bikes they tend to fall apart after few hundred or thousand miles I’m not sure if that’s a bad owners or actually the bike and the price doesn’t make it better 1,500 for a brand new bike is very cheap and to good to be true . Don’t get me wrong I love lexmoto it’s one of my options for my first bike

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

We don't get any that 'fall apart after a few hundred or thousand miles' and those that have problems that early are usually used and abused, quality is improving all the time and we will continue to push them further.

[@v8-m8-]

@@lexmotomotorcycles fair fair I just saw videos of your lexmoto hunter and aspire falling apart after 1000 miles

[@lauriseaden2846]

lets face it, you dont offer the parts for engine and gearbox repairs like most brands, seen a few bike's with low mileage & replacement engine's. brands disappear brands stay easy to see why...

[@jeffuk3940]

It seems that you are paying a for a Japanese brand. But buying a Chinese bike. A road test of the 2 bikes would be useful?

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

Hi Jeff UK, we have a first ride video of the ZSX-R here kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGjXeXWGjc-ki6s I'll put forward the suggestion of a comparison road test for the future.

[@jeremycubs8331]

I'd still choose the Yamaha even if that Lexmoto cost £500

[@cityfisherman89]

do a real world comparison

[@mrpantur7280]

I like how you are brain washing people into thinking the lexmoto is better because its cheaper. there is a reason why the Yamaha is more expensive and its the fact that its better quality. "Japanese fan boys" ? hmm sorry I wanted a high quality item. no hate just stop telling lies.

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

Thanks for giving us your opinion Mr Panter. As mentioned in the video, we're not telling you our bike is better. Are you able to elaborate on how the Yamaha is better quality?

[@mrpantur7280]

@@lexmotomotorcycles i can send u some pictures if I can find them of my mates lexmotos. One of them is real nice. The countershaft bearing exploded. Bike only had 1600 miles. Or another one where the crank bearings failing after 25k miles. All my 3 yamahas and my friends yamahas have higher mileage and have never had any issues at all. I don't think any of your bikes would be able to out live a yamaha ybr 125.

[@danhaines9056]

The reason they turn out less bikes is because they are much better made, the build quality is alot better.

[@bikersquest]

This is what I was thinking, higher QC might will require more time therefore less bikes. That being said Yamaha and the other big brands most likely do add a premium for their names, and usually have better resale value despite their shortcomings

[@lexmotomotorcycles]

In China they have the ability to expand based on demand. I'm fortunate to have been to the Jianshe factory and was hoping to see something special. Unfortunately, I found it to be pretty underwhelming. They only things they had for QC was one section where they tested lights worked and another where they looked for scratches. There was a thick layer of dust on models that had failed QC which suggest they are either not investigating faults or they are ignoring them. Jianshe is a part government-owned venture that had links with the military but their recent financial records show that over two thirds of their income is now via making airconditioning units for cars. It's one of the reasons we moved away from the Aspire 125cc because the factory focus is not in the right place for a long term future.

[@robertcorcoran907]

Biased, waste of time watching as not impartial.