LFC#175 - Upgrading a 10y/o PC with new second hand parts.

Did some upgrades on a mate's PC. Old CPU was a Core 2 Quad Q6600, we upgraded it to an i5 6600. We had the i5 and mobo for ~£50, an RX570 for £140, and an 8GB stick of cheap DDR4 for about £35. Appearances were of zero importance for this build, but it's worth noting that for around £50 we could've thrown everything into a modern case as well.
But yea, bringing up the base-line was the main objective here. A new case can always be done another time.
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Thanks to music bros down below!
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[@tutecast]

16:30 best technical explanation to what happens in Windows when you change hardware 😂

[@Gmarkooo]

im glad to found this underrated channel. i love all of the content and i really learn a lot

[@deminybs]

same, seems like he's gotten a massive wave of new people that found his channel. which is good!! he deserves it 👍

[@iKatOverLord]

Thx 👍👵

[@Vonklieve]

It is very relaxing to see a PC rebuild....Bit like therapy for when I have the urge to fit new PC stuff. I have a 5800X3D CPU with B550 motherboard. I think I own that case. It is in the garage, because it is out dated now. I use the Lian Li Lancool 2 ARGB case, used to use the HAF X from Coolermaster, which was one big case! I have a dusty house as well. Just have to clean often.

[@Mico605]

Your dust box seems to have some PC components in it

[@adamtajhassam9188]

Just an idea 4 Adamit- use the 2gb graphics as a dedicated sound only reciever. :)

[@warsawprice]

really enjoy your videos, very informative and your low stress, mellow approach is spot on. I especially enjoy the way you continuously film your build and interject with tips and tricks as your fitting, thank you for your hard work !

[@oldrockgeeser9426]

When you change the motherboard it's not call upgrading anymore it's building a new PC.

[@variable_0]

"and windows gonna go aaaahhhh, and then be fine" -what? hahaha 16:30

[@rich1051414]

Preinstalled windows will have bad drivers, so the first couple boots might be a bit rough :P

[@Ryder1990]

Man i hope you're job and shop works for real, you're a great man and the best PC fixer

[@boshaddict]

Your thermal paste has a bit of cpu on it!

[@neilbateman7039]

There's always one isn't there.

[@dougle03]

@@neilbateman7039 We were all thinking it...

[@shodan6401]

Bad? That's my PC after about a week. I left it alone for six years or so, and it had grown a carpet... When I finally got around to cleaning it and blowing it out, the room had a thick gray fog and I could hardly breathe. So, this guy shouldn't be embarrassed at all. It's actually looking pretty good!

[@losingmyfavoritegame8752]

Yes! An Antec 300! That was my first aftermarket case!

[@zushikatetomotoshift1575]

too bad when I gt my first pc those cases wasn't around in that time point. Welcome to 1996.

[@loschwahn723]

...and in Fact Antec is not After-Market: it's Fileserver & Workstation Market for Custom Solutions. 10 5 1/4 inch bays is for real no GayMingSolution

[@peters5031]

Antec 300 here also. Still have it ;]

[@bryantallen703]

I still have my eVGA 680i SLi (Black Pearl) and 3.6GHz Q6600 GO with OCZ's (SLI ready) XMP 1200MHz DDR2 and upgraded the GPU to a GTX 1050ti. This purpose built CRYSIS rig still runs to this day. Running Vulkan/DX12 games like DOOM 2016 and the Sniper Elite series, at 1080p60 with Ultra settings no problem. Running a Quad back in 2007-2008 was a dream. I can't belive it took more than 10years to get to 6, 8, 12, 16 cores on the mainstream socket. Thanks AMD.

[@ahmedst290]

Damn that is some very good stuff!!

[@cmarting83]

Great stuff, I used to have the Q6600 paired with an IN9-32X Max from Abit which was also nForce 680 back in the day, I had the exact same DDR2 RAM modules shown in the video from OCZ, but I had 4x1GB modules for dual channel and a GTS 8800 512 MB.

[@MichaelFlatman]

Q6600 was (always will be) an epic chip. I think the dream (8c+ chips) has come back, with AMD's 3000 series CPUs.

[@SuperFredAZ]

I really like your channel, you are one of the PC Tech-tubers that does things "on the cheap" and I mean that in the best way. No money spent for frills, just get the job done.

[@toxy3580]

As soon as you said this was a core i system I was thinking "yeah not with those copper ram heatsinks" lol

[@mattscomp]

Have built a few systems in these Antec cases back in the day. Some still in use today. Very solid case.

[@beauregardslim1914]

That original build was *really* nice for it's time. It is very easy to move those crimped ends for the pin header to a different plastic frame. Good vid.

[@djcymatic]

FYI. The plugs for the older 3 pin power/leds can be adjusted using a needle, to remove and more the wires.

[@AndyMarsh]

I always chuckle when you talk about things like the 3 pin power LED as old.... I still feel like PnP cards are modern... no more setting I/O and Base Address by jumpers on every card! Sheer luxury.

[@l337pwnage]

You mean Plug 'n' Pray? ;)

[@MrNicoe36cabrio]

Very nice. I love giving PC's a second life! Dutch regards, Nico.

[@elmeiser2324]

That is a really nice retro ish board. I have a 780i sli from XFX lying around in my room.

[@ahah1785]

my gosh.... 10-15 year old PCs....feels like yesterday.....i was like P35 chipset dude thats not old....yeah... i guess im gettin old lol Dont even feel like voodoo 3 was that old....now 386 era thats old=)

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

I always liked Antec. I had all Antec dual ball bearing fans with 3-speed switches. And when the USB front ports wore out , I called them and they sent me a new header for free.

[@Newtownian]

I knew that ram was ddr2 as soon as I saw it lol. Great vid 👌

[@cts006]

I had flashbacks when I saw that it was ocz ram.

[@leimad13]

Used to work for recycling company, we basically received PCs from schools hospitals and such. The insides were absolutely buried under blanket of dust, blowing it with compressed air was the best part of this job :D

[@pjimmbojimmbo1990]

I built a unit in 2007 with an ASUS P5K Deluxe with a Q6600, 4 GB Ram, and a Nvidia QT(I think)8800. I used it until about 2014, when I replaced it with an i7 4770K. It is still in use today, as a Hackentosh.

[@richardharding9385]

I have just updated my old 15 year old Antec case PC with a AM4 upgrade. While the motherboard was out it was worth while to cut a hole in the back plate for future cpu & cooler change. I always do that when upgrading an old case.

[@rushnerd]

The Noctua cooler is the nicest part in that whole system! Probably still perfectly usable too. Also I would know that OCZ DDR2 memory anywhere, mine and tons of other builds used it.

[@jamzales]

cable management was nearly non existent until about 2015/16. you go way back to the 90's and forget it about cable management

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Turns off lights , room gets brighter.

[@dependspro]

yeee same antec case :)) still running my upgraded pc :))

[@konix_py3253]

When you said it was a 2nd or 3rd gen i5/i7 I just looked at the ram and motherboard, the heatpipes specifically, and thought "nah that's like pentium" and it was, these things you just get to recognize easily, either by seeing it often or living through that time, feels nostalgic

[@vibardaniell.5833]

pentium? what the fuck hahaha more like fx 8150 or first gen i7. haven't watched the video yet lolol wait its a core 2 wtf

[@virtualtools_3021]

@@vibardaniell.5833 lga 775 is easily recognizable :D

[@comicsanz97]

The PC isn't dusty, it just learned to live with the nature.

[@nb1843]

it takes years to come to his point of exp. for looking on stuff but u only can be born with that much talk...i love it

[@retrogamer33]

Love that CPU Cooler

[@sixcoregamer9221]

I used to own this same exact motherboard (P5K Premium) with Q6600 @ 3.6GHz. The board supported ATI crossfire. It was the most money I ever spent on a motherboard and cpu. I think I paid ~$200 for the board and ~$300 for the cpu. Consumed lots of power but the cpu rendering performance was impressive.

[@essentialone1]

I know 8gb of ram is enough but why would you only use a single 8Gb stick, Personally I would have use X2 4gb sticks so we would have duel channel mode.

[@Crazy65pt]

The only reason I see for that is that they want to get another 8gb stick in there in the near future

[@essentialone1]

@@Crazy65pt That maybe so because I know the whole point of building on a budget is to upgrade later, but if I was going to upgrade from 8Gb's to 16Gb I would at least upgrade to something that has heatsinks and XMP profiles but still cheap like some HyperX Fury sticks or G-Skill Trident Z, you can get x2 4gb sticks of Trident-Z @3000Mhz CL15 timings and that would be a big upgrade to that single 8gb stick. And they are very well priced for the performance. I know this because I had them when they was first released and they beat everything I put them against in Passmark 9 benchmark tests

[@Crazy65pt]

@@essentialone1 I personally wouldn't invest in good ram for that particular cpu. Being a i5 6000 probably uses ddr3 memory. And the extra spending wouldn't make that much difference. Now dual vs single channel makes a big difference

[@TheTurnipKing]

@Crazy65pt Theoretically there's a massive difference, but it does seem as though the real world performance hit can vary quite significantly. There's no circumstance I'm aware of in which having dual channel would drop performance though, so no reason not to take it if it's an option, short of wanting to save money now and add more later, and even that's slightly suspect since you won't be getting a memory kit in that case.

[@Crazy65pt]

@@TheTurnipKing it has been tested recently and were it makes a difference. It makes a big difference

[@hitznkoff4285]

Thats a decent cooler gamers nexus use that as their standard for all of their tests.

[@crgwal]

I love these kind of upgrades, some mates will play with the worst of things. :D

[@TiagoSilva4171]

Love the video!!

[@bardos]

I like your style, you build 'em like I do. :)

[@elfedorausado]

25:19 most of my builds so far have been in these kind of cases, and I can heartedly agree....

[@Cheordig]

lol If only my PC was as high spec as that was,..before you upgraded! :-)

[@hillppari]

Nice noctua case fan on that cpu cooler.

[@pas7680]

i do miss the old antec 300 case, best budget case of it's day.

[@TuiCatNZ]

Funny how everyone was saying the 4gb gtx960 was a waste of money because memory bandwidth limitations or some bs.

[@Adamant_IT]

For reals, I was in the camp of 'naa mate, the 2GB one is fine' myself, but today, the 4GB GTX 960 can still power a cheap gaming rig while the 2GB version seriously wallows. That being said, 2GB GTX 960s make great NVENC cards - still got one in the PC I record these videos on.

[@MichaelFlatman]

@@Adamant_IT The GTX 960 and 950 have HEVC Encode support. I output from video editor into hevc at x264 bitrates, this makes the export fast and also high quality (not like normal h264 accelerated encode, where the output isn't great). KZbin supports h265 upload. I have a 960 2gb and it is severely bottlenecked by the 2gb of vram :P R9 290 4gb for now.

[@dp9550]

Love that shirt Graham !!! 😆

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Wow same Antec 300 case I had and same CPU. Intel Yorkshire. Mine had an Asus P5Q Se Antec has the updated 300 Series 2 case now I think. Great air flow.

[@northof-62]

Binge watching your playlist now. Subbed of course. Like, like and like!

[@ryznglascastle1995]

Antec 300 I have one , it's a great case.

[@scellyyt]

Usually with the CPUs you can tell approximately what series it is by looking at the IHS, if the surrounding part of the IHS is like a rounded square with a notch cut off, like the CPU you took out of the system, then most likely its an LGA 775 chip. Probably a core 2 quad or core 2 extreme if its in a gaming system.

[@MrBook123456]

good job

[@pas3pas365]

As soon as the cooler was removed and I saw the orientation of the socket I was like that's not lga 1155 :)

[@reinraum7972]

The old CPU fan was indeed a case fan, so it fits now perfect for his further intended use ;)

[@toxy3580]

Noctua had far less fan options back then

[@chrisbeale9921]

I commented on your Corsair 270r build and my pc is now built in the same case and going strong but what would you recommend for a front case fan and either 3 120mm fans or 2 140mm fans and I have my eye on noctua fans for Christmas but there are so many models to chose from.

[@wsketchy]

Who in their right mind decided "Ah yes, a black and gold PSU. Let's put blue LEDs in it!!"

[@peterdeacon4628]

The worse TV I had to repair was no picture, they had 5 dogs and smoked. I looked at the screen and said to the lady, have you got a damp cloth, and when I finished there was a brilliant picture . Her answer was I have not had chance to dust this week

[@jake20479]

i gave my qx9650 rig as a handmedown to my parents. put my old 1060 in there and an ssd. i know the cpu is old but even by my standards i consider the computer fast for basic needs. for me to even say that it is a snappy machine is crazy as i have a 9900k paired with a 2080S....

[@normitabarranco3378]

That's still a good antec case.

[@davidknuvelder4699]

This setup has a fan blowing out, and none that suck air in. The case will be sucking air and dust in through every opening this way.

[@geofftottenperthcoys9944]

I loved my Q6600! upgraded to a i5-3550 at the time.

[@freemansfreedom8595]

IIRC Noctua fans motor shaft is completely sealed off, so you don't have to worry about dust nor lubrication. That fan should have been still good. And I concur with the graphics card. I got a 570 4gb for 90-100€ second hand. Stupid good value

[@deminybs]

Damn!! lol I keep my house pretty clean and have my desktop on kitchen table , but fans move so much air that they get like all the dust in my house!!! I just wait about a month then do a good cleaning , repeat lol no Adam I do not remember 3 pin power LED but remember the old office computers where the entire front panel connectors is just one plug 🤬

[@gerydblackmore5484]

still using my i7 4790k, with evo 212 cooler, 16 gb ddr3 ram, sammy 250GB ssd and a wd red 6TB with a 1050ti 4GB Video Ram. still works great after 6yrs.

[@TheDragonballboy]

Man i would love to use a leaf blower on that PC

[@insparks782]

Holy...!! This case brings back memories. This was my era, when I got into PC building. You're right, there's nowhere to hide in these cases. Sometimes you could get away with hiding the auxiliary power cable between the motherboard tray and the side panel, but that was about it. You said it yourself in the video - cable management really wasn't a thing back in the mid to late noughties. We have come a long way and it's easy to forget until you see ancient cases like these Antecs.

[@troyr3345]

they were top quality at the time tho and imo still look good ...my backup/bedroom pc still in antec 300 like this and my main in my trusty 900 ....over 10 years old still has the og 650w antec psu the blue led fans that it came with and the 240mm monster on top all still spinning silently on low...have had atleast 4 diff systems thru it ..currently a 4.6 ghz 4790k and rx580 ...might finally retire the old girl for my next upgrade but will def be holding up on that for as long as possible lol

[@simonlauer9379]

on the thumbnail it looks like a ship wreckage deep in the ocean

[@jt3000o]

I have had the gigabyte RX 570 8GB I ended up returning it and getting the MSI one the gigabyte one got too hot for my liking the gigabyte one just felt cheaper as well

[@imcoldbore]

no joke, i thought the sound of the air was part of the music for a second......

[@tonyhawthorne3222]

I see a few spare stand offs inside there .make an aluminum plate and paint it black you can then hide most of the cables behind it .a bit of effort involved but not that hard to do .

[@Adamant_IT]

Neat idea. I wouldn't go to that effort on most PCs... but if I were doing a serious build in an old case with no cable tidying, that'd be cool.

[@imreszabo4256]

P5K was a top model board I remember. My only complaint is that cheap mobo the component hardly fit in there, not to mention the giant graphic card.

[@Murlock2000]

You can generally see it on the motherboard on thr old intel boards that is that old almost always have fancy heatsinks and heatpipes everywhere just look at the ram :) i kinda mis that on the new systems, i like the beefy industrial looks with lots of cooling and no fancy bullshit RGB lighting. I remeber i had a 4x ram kit that had built in plasma tubes lighting.

[@CorollaGTSSRX]

Shamoo, like the whale movie? I'm really excited for the 3rd one too!

[@hardrivethrutown]

That's an Antec 300, I remember I used to have one, that case kinda sucked. I remember paying around £14 for it used, pretty cramped, very cheaply constructed, but it got the job done until I got a better case. The Antec 900/1200 series were much better cases, much more spacious and better constructed.

[@dougler500]

Would have loved a before and after benchmark, maybe on firestrike or heaven, something reasonable for that old pc lol. Could I put in a request for before/after comparisons on upgrade videos like this in the future? >.> I'm so curious about what that poor, poor CPU was going through, the GPU must could run circles around it.

[@tlgeorge59]

loveIT!

[@PokèMyBalls]

Going from commonly building in the NZXT H510 to the Matrexx 30 TG for a budget build feels the same way.

[@catriona_drummond]

That Noctua fan was a low static pressure case fan model anyway. not optimal for CPU coolers.

[@MartinBarker]

Noctua FANboy ah i see what you did there :D

[@Ottonic6]

When a motherboard has more PCI slots than PCIe slots, you know it's OLD...

[@mattscomp]

IDE or PATA port almost always means that the mobo is at least around 10 years old :-) A tip for newbies. Look out for those 40 pin connectors. And if there is two of them. That means older still..

[@virtualtools_3021]

and, on the off chance there is 3? (its not 2 and a floppy i made sure)

[@mattscomp]

@@virtualtools_3021 some boards did indeed. Am thinking the early AMD Athlon boards. Socket A. Around the year 2000 and following years. Those had an IDE raid controller in addition to the standard IDE dual ports. Some Intel based boards of that era probably had IDE Raid too. But my memory is definitely of the AMD systems at the time.

[@wolfchacer0139]

Sure it's better now but this is already gimped in Single channel mode, then adding an RX570 4gb? Nice upgrade seeing as what he had so anything will be an improvement ;) Thumbs up!

[@michaelleeper3649]

When I encounter a CPU cooler like that I will remove and clean with ammonia glass cleaner in my sink. Spray on and let is sit there a few minutes. I wind up removing air born oils and other particulates that adhere and dusting cannot remove. Rinse with hot water and dry. This does not work with all coolers obviously but does with the majority. I shake off the water, hit with air and dry with a blow dryer. It winds up looking brand new.

[@virtualtools_3021]

how bout NO! ammonia dissolves the crap out of copper and reacts strongly with aluminium in my experience.

[@michaelleeper3649]

@@virtualtools_3021 I use it to clean smokers CPU coolers. I would not use this on high end. I spend a lot of time cleaning the smokers tar out. I don't leave it on long enough for damage to occur and thoroughly rinse and dry.

[@virtualtools_3021]

@@michaelleeper3649 well, if it was smoked on there is 0 possibility for it to get worse XD

[@michaelleeper3649]

@@virtualtools_3021 exactly.

[@chinesepopsongs00]

The top fan made noise but i am not sure the bearing is bad. If there is a real bearing in a fan (not a bushing) then wearing out that bearing is almost impossible. Bearings in small fans like this have not much force being put on them and bearing parts are made of hard steel. Most of the time bearings run dry, just lubricate them. Or another thing is see many times is that the motor PCB is just clamped in the plastic and ther is wiggle room in this clamping most likely because sideway pressure on a fan when cleaning it. For those fans i just glue them in with epoxy glue and the sounds stops. Some cheaper fans i even do this when they are new and because the epoxy glue fills the hollow parts in the plastic around the motor most of the time the fan's are more quiet then out of the box. I have fixed fan's as old as back to about 1985 this way and it almost always works.

[@nayemmahmud9269]

Cable management has left the chat

[@nettyvoyager6336]

i didnt see the elastic band were did you put the key as well to wind it up :P

[@Ed31003]

my hands up

[@techhonour3821]

2:20 Yes, please tell your mate to get the PC up off the floor.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Tiny board , giant cooler. : )

[@anilkinikar]

Hi, one question, suppose if I upgrade motherboard and cpu (basically a new pc) will my Windows 10 boot and get the required drivers and also does my Windows 10 activation stays or have to call Microsoft for activation?

[@normitabarranco3378]

I am afraid you will have to call microshit. Good luck

[@StarlightDasher]

The second the side panel came off, I knew it was LGA775 based.

[@LOGICALMAGNET]

I can't believe that you used only one stick of memory single channel with a rx 570 i really don't have words

[@Adamant_IT]

Parts cost money. There's lots of ways that I could make this PC even faster. All of them are more expensive than what we did.

[@LOGICALMAGNET]

@@Adamant_IT i understand but at the cost of that stick of ram the RX 570 is too expensive for the lack of Dual channel so what im trying to say is if someone affords that Beast of a card and the 8gb version they would afford to get the 2nd stick thats all :D and i get it that you wanted to give him the Choice to add more if he needs it but hey its still RX570 :D

[@techhonour3821]

24:58 I didn't even notice the iMac in the background until it interrupted.

[@EpicGamingEct]

Still using a Formula rampage II with a Q9550 and 8GB ram and GTX 960 2gb WITH windows 10 sitting in my bedroom as a streaming PC :) so my 4yr daughter can watch disney plus and youtube and she loves it and it works fine

[@patricekroth6955]

From an upgrade point of view, do you thing it would be worth replacing an i5 4670K with 16Gb DDR3 to an i5 6600 or similar? I got a cheap mining motherboard but I have a Pentium G4400 in it atm and will upgrade if it's worth. GPU is a GTX 1070 and I play games at 1440p. Thanks

[@Adamant_IT]

If you've got the i5 6600 (and mobo/RAM) laying around, or you've picked it up super cheap, sure thing. Second hand parts are great if you got mates rates like we did in this video. But you can get a lot for very little when buying brand new these days - especially with CPUs like the Ryzen 3100 and 3300x kicking around. So the bang for buck depends on if you got the second-hand stuff for a song or not. I'm not sure if 4670k to 6600 will be worth it... Intel stagnated a bit around this era, and the next big kick was 8th gen, which slapped another two cores onto everything.

[@pisstew7449]

Get him a dust filter geez

[@DennisKyne]

Have you ever tried an electric leaf blower to clean out a computer?

[@halesworth01]

Can you arrange with that "boy racer" that passes several times in front of the shop to go somewhere else, while you do your video's please 🤣

[@gerydblackmore5484]

Have you watched Carey Holzman, he uses an electric leaf blower. x

[@christiaanhauchecorne2271]

can you use your current Windows 10 professional license code on a new motherboard?

[@1brendan673]

Where did u buy the motherboard and cpu