I love that you did a picture quality in game mode test because a lot of us play single player story mode games that are not competitive, so we care about more than just the input lag. THANK YOU.
@rosalindhicks58723 жыл бұрын
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@stocktrader98612 жыл бұрын
AND THIS IS WHY IPS PANELS ARE SO HATED IN THE TV SPACE.
@weekendsketches3 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to see this Nanocell vs QLED comparison, thanks Vin.
@WhiteGhost08913 жыл бұрын
Lg needs local dimming set to high and BFI on , blacks will be black and there will be almost zero blooming giving you one hell of a picture.
@The_Mousse_Man3 жыл бұрын
BFI will cause the picture to dim maybe making dark scenes look blacker but with it being an ips panel this tv will never have good blacks no matter what settings you use. The blacks on the nanocells will always looks Greyish or washed out.
@JonanParedes3 жыл бұрын
No that's not true, I have a 9010 and my blacks looks VERY black. That said, the blooming is very noticeable if the settings aren't set correctly and even with them set optimally, there is still some blooming but not nearly as much as when you're simply using the preset factory settings.
@mimimimeow3 жыл бұрын
Vincent should make HDTVTest merch with the words "buy a TV that can handle the scene from Gravity where Sandra Bullock is tumbling through space"
@ChocChipp1313 жыл бұрын
Gold xD
@EliminatorPerformance3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the amount of blooming is unbelievable. Especially when the subtitles were being displayed!
@nitroglycerin27433 жыл бұрын
TCL R635 has Absolutely Great Blooming Performance for Movies, and Game’s on Xbox Series X as I’ve played Many game’s already so far without any perceivable blooming at all with Game Mode, and Local Dimming (local contrast on TCL) Set Too High as it’s absolutely Amazing to say the least
@chriskorneluk22553 жыл бұрын
Turn off local dimming, it fixes the problem with blooming, and is still very bright picture
@TheUselessGamerPC3 жыл бұрын
@@chriskorneluk2255 That doesn't stop the problem, just reduces it. Have a look at the video from 'The Tech Giant' titled 'Budget QLED vs Nanocell black level test,LOOK at the difference!'. Even with local dimming off, the 'blooming' is still pretty bad, and black levels still aren't anywhere near on par with the Q60T.
@tomatobrush32833 жыл бұрын
How often do you watch with subtitles and dark scenes? This a technical comparison video where they pick the worst they can kind find out of the TVs. Most of the time you wouldn't even notice any blooming on Nano cell.
@chicle87273 жыл бұрын
@@tomatobrush3283 I watch everything except youtube with subs on.
@VeeeeryyyFaaaastSlooooth3 жыл бұрын
3:17 end of the sponsor section
@frankiesomeone3 жыл бұрын
Vincent "this scene from Gravity where Sandra Bullock is tumbling through space" Teoh
@maxhill92543 жыл бұрын
+1
@lecorsaire22833 жыл бұрын
Hey it is convenient for comparing the quality of the local dimming and contrast. I guess you can use any Star Wars too but Gravity’s Blu-ray is reference quality.
@ArtVandelayOfficial3 жыл бұрын
BullOck
@luizjr.92303 жыл бұрын
What about the challenging campfire scene from the revenant?
@krazyfrog3 жыл бұрын
@@luizjr.9230 Personally a fan of the detail on the white gown worn by Rebecca Ferguson in The Greatest Showman.
@kr1sV3 жыл бұрын
£1100 vs £1700 lol You had to compare qled q60 or nano95 lol
@drummerdude1003 жыл бұрын
You obviously didn't watch the whole video
@baka_ja_nai3 жыл бұрын
This comparison is a bit strange - where I live 86" LG Nano90 is 2 times cheaper than 85" Q90T. It's price is equal to Samsung 8000-series, without any QLED.
@ccvtzvdv3 жыл бұрын
You should have compared the Nano90 with the Q70t not the Q90t. That's an unfair comparison.
@gimoon01253 жыл бұрын
Does LG nanocell have Q90t quality line?
@ccvtzvdv3 жыл бұрын
@@gimoon0125 No, even the 8k Nano 99 has an IPS panel which looks worse than the q90t.
@oldirtydave222 жыл бұрын
Let’s compare TVs that are almost 1k difference lol
@furian76152 жыл бұрын
I honestly wasn’t expecting such a great overview of these technologies. Excellent formatting, coverage of product and gave me some additional questions to answer when I do shop for a new TV. Thanks
@KontryBoy7063 жыл бұрын
If I seen that much blooming... I would box that thing up and take it right back
@yusuf89383 жыл бұрын
It won't look quite that bad in real life lol. But it's not close to as good as the Samsung.
@burakyzc3 жыл бұрын
KontryBoy706, I did exactly like that, and bought Sony x900h. Yusuf believe me, it looks quite that bad in a dark room. That one week with Nano90 was made me crazy.
@ededdy16643 жыл бұрын
@@burakyzc does the sony have blooming?
@burakyzc3 жыл бұрын
@@ededdy1664 Yes but it's more less than LG and not distracting.
@ededdy16643 жыл бұрын
@@burakyzc to you which is better between the samsung and the Sony you own?
@Erowens983 жыл бұрын
Hey Vincent, would you mind comparing TV's across generations? For example, comparing LCD TV's from 2016, to LCD TV's from 2020 for the same brand. It would be interesting to see how the technology has improved if at all in a direct comparison.
@omarcomming7223 жыл бұрын
With many models it has downgraded actually, Samsung in particular I think
@dushk02 жыл бұрын
@@omarcomming722 that said, maybe comparing newer off-brand QLED vs older/newer Samsung
@stocktrader98612 жыл бұрын
AND THIS IS WHY IPS PANELS ARE SO HATED IN THE TV SPACE.
@eryck1233 жыл бұрын
6:16 is it just me or does the LG nano have much more detail in the background? More stars are visible
@tommi75543 жыл бұрын
It's just you.
@eryck1233 жыл бұрын
@@tommi7554 Im starting to imagine stars, damnit ;)
@tomatobrush32833 жыл бұрын
There was a good comparison of detail on another channel, it showed at times the Nano cell had better detail than OLED and other times the other way around.
@Pencil-Eating3 жыл бұрын
"but it's still better than the bloomfest presented by the nano90." I laugh out loud at this every time I hear it, I don't know why. Probably the deadpan delivery coupled with the word bloomfest.
@androiduser78713 жыл бұрын
I prefer QLED due to no burn-in potential at all, way superior max brightness (very handy in bright sunny rooms) plus Samsung QLED have the best in business anti-reflecting coating and the best non-OLED viewing angles OLED is better for me in a dark room and TVs like LG's Wallpaper and Rollable TVs are stunning but the potential of burn-in is to be consider
@stocktrader98612 жыл бұрын
AND THIS IS WHY IPS PANELS ARE SO HATED IN THE TV SPACE.
@Ashes31233 жыл бұрын
Think you should switch off local dimming on LG nano cell.
@ghostviggen3 жыл бұрын
Yes local dimming makes the picture worse.
@blueshadow37943 жыл бұрын
@@ghostviggen Exactly, THANK YOU!
@vongoliablue3 жыл бұрын
That definitely helped thank you ☺️
@superunknown28123 жыл бұрын
Yes turn it off it helps alot
@zodiacfml3 жыл бұрын
1:30 Finally! I haven't seen any technical spec or review for Nano Cell until now for a TV I bought in 2017. Looks not too bad vs QLED though especially considering the price of Nano Cell which almost doesn't cost much more than none Nano Cell LG TVs edit: But Samsung's QLEDs are priced to compete with LG's OLEDs.
@bobarmstrong21223 жыл бұрын
Wrong comparison ! To bring you up to date the Samsung 85" cost is $3600 on Amazon and the LG 86" NANO 91 is less than $2000 in store at Costco with a 4 year warranty. How could you ever compare such a difference in price????
@wesvill75652 жыл бұрын
Great Information. I had the LG 75NANO80 ($1799 CND) for almost a month and the one thing I couldn't get over was the blooming in dark scenes. I decided to return it for a more expensive QN85Q70 ($2800 CND). Once I had it setup, my wife and I immediately saw the difference in picture quality. The images from the Q70 produced was softer and natural to the eyes. It wasn't straineous to naked eye like the 75Nano80. My wife complained that the LG was too bright and was painful to watch bright and colorful scenes. I couldn't get over the blooming. On the Q70, the blooming was all but eliminated and reflection was reduced thanks to the anti reflective coating. The one good thing about the Q70 is the stand, it can fit onto any size table ( I don't understand why other companies don't offer middle stands with large screens). Anyway, I recommend the Q70 if you don't want blooming, for the extra money I think it's worth it especially when your staring into a massive screen watching any content. I think QLED is the more superior due to the VA panel and the duel LED. The Titan software is more responsive that the LG WebOS but I really like the LG magic remote ( reminds me of the Nintendo Wiimote), then the Samsung (more physical buttons are a plus in my books). My advice is to spend time (within your 30 days to return policy) with family and nitpick the tv. Watch your favorite tv shows/ movies and games but test smaller screens tv's to test and return then like myself who started with a 75" then went to 85".
@stocktrader98612 жыл бұрын
AND THIS IS WHY IPS PANELS ARE SO HATED IN THE TV SPACE.
@circeseye13 жыл бұрын
i have the 75" nano90....i dont see any of that blooming like your showing. yes blacks are bad (more of a dark grey) in a "no light room" you need to have one light (doesnt even have to be bright) scenes look black...i tested first thing game of thrones s8 dark ep. it was gorgeous..i didnt see any blooming...and if caption is turned on sure dont "bloom" like your showing. but as for blackness in the ep? you could tell the difference of the different blacks (their cloaks ect) but they looked black. only thing i have noticed is once in a while when its upscaling and doing hdr a jitter could be seen during movement. not all the time just once in a while. im really curious what you have the settings at that causes all that blooming. what are you cranking the contrast and brightness? from stock settings contrast needs to be dropped about 10 points and the brightness needs to be raised about 10 points (at least thats what i had to do or the picture was just to dark) and i dont see the blooming in space scenes. ive tried different space movies...nothing im just not seeing what your showing
@superunknown28123 жыл бұрын
Yup i have the nano 86 and i havnt had any issues with black levels even in dark rooms ONLY on COMPLETE dark screens is where i would notice blooming in the corners but other then that its a great tv.And yes the "jitter"as you call it around people when they move sometimes is there not all the time.Not sure what causes that?
@jamessalepe3 жыл бұрын
It is not understood how some people say that one television is better than another, if its good characteristics can only be appreciated when the screen is viewed only from the front.
@tinguren56292 жыл бұрын
vincent is the alpha and omega of tv reviews.
@WipeoutXXXX3 жыл бұрын
Without watching the video - OLED hands down! I own a 49' Nano867na, the colors are amazing, I love to game on it with my Series X but it has two glaring issues. The first one are the black levels which is expected. The second issue I have with this IPS Panel is that the 120Hz mode introduces heavy ghosting, which is why im using 4K60Hz with ALLM and VRR turned on. That just seems to be the sweetspot with this TV.
@WindCZ3 жыл бұрын
I play on my nano86 rocket league on 120hz and its amazing af. cant imagine better tv in this price lvl.
@WipeoutXXXX3 жыл бұрын
@@WindCZ Im happy with it aswell. Got it on Primeday sale last year, it was so cheap it felt like a robbery.
@Pe6ek2 жыл бұрын
If you don't want to watch the video at least read the title so you know what it's about.
@WipeoutXXXX2 жыл бұрын
@@WindCZ UPDATE: The ghosting in 120Hz was fixed, the annoying and butt ugly posterization Effects in HDR got fixed and there is no more flickering in 4K120 mode. Definitely impressed by the update support from LG, considering its a budget TV.
@stocktrader98612 жыл бұрын
AND THIS IS WHY IPS PANELS ARE SO HATED IN THE TV SPACE.
@mig10173 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I'm a big LG fan, mainly because of the operating system, but this comparison is a definite eye opener.
@johnwayne78433 жыл бұрын
Yup, LG OLED or a different Brand If LCD ist your choice. Had an LG ips Led TV 5 years ago. Horrible branding and Backlight bleeding. But couldnt be happier with my current LG CX. Right at the Moment ist Just OLED CX or Samsung q90t. Its Just a matter of your Viewing conditions and If youre a sucker for dark Blacks. Both TVs are awesome, each with its own strengths.
@NorthsideChamps163 жыл бұрын
Was lucky to see both the nano90 series and the Samsung Q80T side by side. Needless to say I walked out of best buy with a q80t after looking at LG's nanocell after a few seconds. Too much blooming on the LG.
@PageCrowes3 жыл бұрын
I got 75 80t nice choice
@SohamNag123213 жыл бұрын
This channel is gold !!!
@mathursan97053 жыл бұрын
pls give us some q90t gaming setting
@baloochii3 жыл бұрын
Yes please.
@irondenni33103 жыл бұрын
No need for it becaus not a good tv
@playstationforlife51733 жыл бұрын
@@irondenni3310 q90t beats OLED
@ryanbrowning55863 жыл бұрын
@@playstationforlife5173 yeah if you like a downgraded picture in gaming. No Dolby vision support. Limited HDMI 2.1 ports. A less picture quality but yeah you all have better HDR. Congrats lmao
@wg85613 жыл бұрын
@iron deni Qleds are great tv's. The the Q8 and Q9 were amazing. The Q90 doesn't quite match those in black levels because it focused more on off angle viewing. It's still a really great set though. I myself was torn between Qled and Oled in the end I chose Qled because it made more sense in my setup. I have a lot of windows in my living room, play games on it and have kids. Yes in a fully dark room the Oled having perfect blacks will be superior in that area, but even then with the settings I have on my qled the blacks are stll phenomenal and almost no blooming at all. Now in a room with a lot of ambient light my Qled will either match or far surpass Oled depending on how much light. Also Qled superior whites and the color is astounding. Lastly I never have to worry about burn in as I have kids and I also fall asleep sometimes for hrs with a static game screen on. It's basically 98% of the performance but none of the weaknesses.
@johnjay79753 жыл бұрын
I made the right choice I just brought a 75 inch Samsung Q70T can’t wait to get it up and use it
@alexryaba77263 жыл бұрын
Nano 90 is much better than our q70t)
@t1v2103 жыл бұрын
Can u please let me know of the motion handling? Especially in movies and anime.
@Cristi-co8vr3 жыл бұрын
@@alexryaba7726 Not really, I had a Nano90 and even with backlight set on 10 the light was passing through a black screen, in a dark room. Even with local dimming was annoying.
@alexryaba77263 жыл бұрын
@@Cristi-co8vr i didn't watch TV in dark room) but in daylight time the picture is incredible! I compared it with xh9505 and I like nano 90 more! (I have some video about it,you can see ,sony only in shadows wins
@Frankenslide3 жыл бұрын
The q70t is edge lit, it doesn’t even have local dimming. You basically got a q60t with better motion handling.... should have bought the Sony x900h
@gdmix3 жыл бұрын
Nice review/comparison. If the prices were similar, I would go with the Samsung for sure. Right now (for 75"), the Samsung is about $2800USD, where the LG is about $1600. If I'm willing to pay $2800 for an LCD, I might as well get the 77" LG OLED for about $3500.
@alexandrupruna85782 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@stocktrader98612 жыл бұрын
AND THIS IS WHY IPS PANELS ARE SO HATED IN THE TV SPACE.
@n47m4n113 жыл бұрын
Damn nanocell is to QLED what QLED is to OLED.
@geiers60133 жыл бұрын
@Karin Ritter Take the q60t it is still better than the Nano90.
@geiers60133 жыл бұрын
@Karin Ritter Ok it has no next gen gaming features. But still it has a better picture quality thanks to Va. The Nano lineup is just unusable, because of Ips black levels.
@Andrei-nf2qi3 жыл бұрын
@@geiers6013 or better yet the q70t
@tetsuoshima73853 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vincent - incredibly informative comparison 👍🏻🙂
@PLANETWATERMELON2 жыл бұрын
Maybe LG’s NanoCell has gotten better in 2022 because I have seen footage on some newer models and they look much much better than what I am seeing here. The blacks are amazingly black with little to no grayness.
@Mehtalik3 жыл бұрын
You're talking about both tvs like they are equal. But you're forgetting the glaring fact is that Nano90 is 500 dollars cheaper than Q90T. What's that? A TV that's 40% more expensive is better? WHAT A SURPRISE! Come on.
@ryanm27453 жыл бұрын
This review can be misleading though. The Samsung TV here is comparable and was created to rival LG’s OLED TVs. So of course it will look better. Also The camera being used to show the difference is in no way similar to real world experience using this TV. (Yes a caption was used in the video to explain this but a lot of people will still ignore that and judge based on whats being shown) I own the LG TV and it looks nothing like this in person with all that blooming during dark scenes and I have local dimming on. Very misleading video.
@crissto85913 жыл бұрын
it's enhanced so that the difference can be visible. Doesn't change the fact that the samsung does it better, but it's true that it may be hard to notice in real life
@ryanm27453 жыл бұрын
@@crissto8591 I literally own this TV right now and it absolutely does not look like what he is showing. I just don’t understand the point of using a special camera/enhanced effects when in real life use it won’t make a difference. My main point though was that the Samsung is in competition with LG OLED TV’s price and technology-wise so It can be misleading to the average joe looking to buy a TV. Mind as well compare a Ferrari to a Toyota Camry while we’re at it for the sake of it.
@crissto85913 жыл бұрын
@@ryanm2745 he's doing it because small differences matter. Yes it doesn't look bad, but it could be better, as can be seen by the tv sitting right next to it. It's small incremental improvements that have gotten us to what we have today, and we need to be aware of them. The price point doesn't make sense, but as a "best this technology can do", it most centrally is a valid test. Should have had one that matches the price too tho.
@davidfisher42113 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you do the same test again but turn local dimming OFF on the Nanocell
@TomlinsonHolman525833 жыл бұрын
Have you reached out to Samsung regarding the strange horizontal lines that scroll upward you observed in Game mode? Engaging Game Motion Plus eradicates it, but the increase in input lag is unacceptable. Thank you, HDTVTest.
@ChappyPapi3 жыл бұрын
I just returned my janky ass q90t. Too many issues for an expensive 2020 tv. My 2012 plasma gives a better gaming & viewing experience....
@empyr34l3 жыл бұрын
@@ChappyPapi Its got a lot of subtle issues doesn't it. I'd swear its passive aggressive.
@TomlinsonHolman525833 жыл бұрын
@@empyr34l - Every TV in 2020 has issues. The Q90T is overall the best 4K LED LCD TV in 2020. Just trying to get the best out of it.
@Ozora_Arozo3 жыл бұрын
I became my q90t today. Im really happy about it. its better then i see it on all this youtube videos. Bud on youtube was good to see it, thx youtubers that show some details i buy one. Im a gamer and the tv is a allrounder beautiful for now.
@goran20093 жыл бұрын
Now I understand why LG is half price . Thanks :)
@marioskoutras65833 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of buying a q80t, but as far as I can tell, all qled models from samsung have issues with ghosting, especially in video games. That's a huge let down!
@jonrevere74463 жыл бұрын
I own a nano 90 and it's an amazing tv for gaming.the dejutter smooths out 30 fps games and makes them feel like 60 and when you turn off the power savings which is on by default the tv looks even more beautiful.especially if you know how to calibrate your own tv.
@Staffy_3 жыл бұрын
How is the local dimming? I have nano86 and the dimming is so pointless
@jonrevere74463 жыл бұрын
@@Staffy_ same with the 90.
@blurayffan663 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a 75" Samsung Q95T last week and very impressed so far- especially with the build and sound quality. I'm not a huge Samsung fan and this is only my 1st Samsung since buying a 50" Samsung DLP a long, long time ago. That was a an excellent tv and had a hack to get into the factory settings to tweak gamma and a few other settings. I am hoping the Q95T will live up to my expectations. I watch mainly KZbin and a lot of 4K movies on disc. I currently have a Sony UBP-X800 4K disc player. To take full advantage of HDR10+ can anyone tell me if I will see any benefit and should buy a Panasonic 4K player with the HDR Optimizer....????
@janesam32573 жыл бұрын
Vincent, can you comment on the Q90T grid DSE that seems to be plaguing many users? Also, what causes DSE and can manufacturers improve uniformity during assembly? Could you perhaps make this a topic of a future video?
@Jerry_S.3 жыл бұрын
I think the Nano90 is more in the range of Q6T or Q7T perhaps.
@geiers60133 жыл бұрын
Yes it is but like Vincent said the q60t or q70t still would have won. The advantages for Va vs Ips panels are to big.
@yusuf89383 жыл бұрын
Not quite lol. Maybe the 7000
@Mako2x33 жыл бұрын
I’d say even the 8000 series. It’s that bad.
@sebasanfilippo3 жыл бұрын
the comparison should have been with the NANO99, not the lower tier 90
@ebayer19803 жыл бұрын
@@sebasanfilippo nano99 too would be destroyed.
@syarizansulaiman65543 жыл бұрын
Lg Nanocell are far more cheaper than Qled , winning factor are price
@shaytaanisaloser3 жыл бұрын
Not in Amsterdam. !!
@FunKaYxxD1sCO3 жыл бұрын
Should be considered a gaming tv.
@KITTYCATALERT3 жыл бұрын
$1100 difference
@danielvoicu20443 жыл бұрын
I access this review cause I just bought a NANO from LG. I agree with all things said here, except the very base of comparison. A fair one should be made between LG OLED and Samsung QLED, as both are top of the game, not with NANO witch is middle game for LG
@tomatobrush32833 жыл бұрын
Yes, people have asked for these comparisons but they know it is not on par.
@tzarkizitski93442 жыл бұрын
I totally agree! There is a reason why there is a price difference. OLED is the LG flagship and not NANO...
@macgyvermac23442 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Vincent this video got over 400000 view, can u do LG qned 90 vs Samsung QN90A both 65 inch and see if you get the same results
@bobby19703 жыл бұрын
I'll just get an OLED TV and call it a day.
@DCsGladiator3 жыл бұрын
Did you get one yet
@bobby19703 жыл бұрын
@@DCsGladiator , not quite yet, but very soon, I hope. I've decided on the LG GX series, having a 77" screen size.
@tanmoysinha98793 жыл бұрын
Amen
@oliverxp50383 жыл бұрын
I had the 86” Nano90 and tried default, custom and recommended from online settings and no matter what a good amount of content had terrible blooming. Yes, I tried turning local dimming off as well while trying out multiple settings but with LD off it always looked worse than on, ended up running between Bright / Dark Room Expert settings with LD high most the time. Sometimes the picture quality would be really nice, especially on bright scenes. However, the blooming issues were very noticeable and so I returned it for the 85” Q90t. The Samsung Q90t is much much better in my experience at handling blooming and has a great picture quality. I also have had an OLED for 4 years and Q90t while being great tv is not OLED level of picture quality.
@circeseye13 жыл бұрын
see i dont see any of this. i dont have all that blooming you guys are talking about. and i even have local dimming on.
@oliverxp50383 жыл бұрын
I tried a lot of settings and was running with Dark Room / Bright Room LD high settings. Sometimes it’s would look good, but most times it would have issues. imagebin.ca/v/5hqOsdfrjEQ7 Example of a Netflix show. Some scenes looked decent regarding the blooming like (Same settings): imagebin.ca/v/5hqYlD7sjBfa But overall there was more content with issue than not and when it was there it was very noticeable.
@circeseye13 жыл бұрын
@@oliverxp5038 yea you HAVE to have a bad panel. thats bad, im thinking hdtvtest also has one. im also wondering if its a luck of the draw when buying. dark scenes look really good with none of that blooming on mine.
@blueshadow37943 жыл бұрын
Hmpf. Mine was worse, it had BLB on the top left corner and at the bottom, impossible to watch any HDR content, due to the edge light popping through like a curtain, as the light in the scenes moved around. my mom's 400 euro smart Samsung tv had better picture quality than this trash. Getting my money back this week and buying a Samsung q70t.
@WhiteoutTech3 жыл бұрын
@@circeseye1 eh then everyone on the planet except you has a broken panel. LG IPS is horrible for dark scenes
@bagru923 жыл бұрын
FINALLY I CAN MAKE MY DECISION BETWEEN QLED AND NANOCELL! THANK YOU!
@MrOscar56903 жыл бұрын
But what about OLED? 🤔
@bagru923 жыл бұрын
@@MrOscar5690 in this price range QLED is better
@ccvtzvdv3 жыл бұрын
@@bagru92 The Nano90 is 500 bucks cheaper.
@bagru923 жыл бұрын
@@ccvtzvdv than which one?
@ccvtzvdv3 жыл бұрын
@@bagru92 than the Samsung q90
@mobgma3 жыл бұрын
If you are budget minded the LG is a no brainer.
@MrRaitzi3 жыл бұрын
Nanocell has one role only. Sell OLED.
@KaIero3 жыл бұрын
if you like white shining black yes
@lordbrown14583 жыл бұрын
@@KaIero I have this exact problem on my nanocell, black isn’t black it’s more a grey cloudy colour, looked terrible on my ps5 when I’m in dark areas of a game, going to have to replace it
@KaIero3 жыл бұрын
@@lordbrown1458 there is no tv for everthing, nanocell is fast and has great colors , with oled colors look more powerful thanks to the black...with this nanocell the shining black or grey kills every movie
@lordbrown14583 жыл бұрын
@@KaIero I don’t like white shining black, so it’s not for me, even the Samsung qled range have much h better contrast and local dimming
@ccvtzvdv3 жыл бұрын
@@lordbrown1458 I like the Nano 91 especially in dark scences because I can see more. ;D
@Strangepete3 жыл бұрын
Viewing angles, gamma shift, un natural skin tones and unrealistic tint to the image has always made me fundamentally dislike VA panels on TV's and monitors which is a shame because the contrast is much better. Anyone else feel the same? My eyes got used to IPS panels and the color and general look of them. But I do want better blacks and more punchy contrast image. Hard to get both great realistic colors and good blacks and a punchy contrast full image without going to OLED which has it's issues. Price, no smaller sizes, burn in risk, automatic brightness limiter etc.
@yusuf89383 жыл бұрын
Get the QLED man. I got one, it's amazing. Samsung pretty much fixed just about every typical VA issue, and the ones that are present, are extremely minimal.
@jaimem17883 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's why I"m sticking with my Vizio QLED IPS TV even though contrast isn't as good as the VA TV next to it!
@Strangepete3 жыл бұрын
@@yusuf8938i am sensitive to dirty screen effect I play sports games and it qleds tend to have gray uniformity issues. But do you have some recommended models in mind?
@LordLab3 жыл бұрын
Maybe next year LG will use micoLEDs on the Nanocell lineup , or maybe dual LCD , or maybe they don't care at all .
@marcfavell3 жыл бұрын
I don't think they care at all they've always been poop at LCDs TVs 🤷🏼♂️🇨🇦🍁🇨🇦
@PSYCHOV3N0M3 жыл бұрын
OLED is LG's priority.
@lanceheaps5813 жыл бұрын
@@PSYCHOV3N0M I agree OLED is what they do. I really think the only reason they make the Nanocell is to have an entry level, and hope those people who buy it will upgrade to the OLED line down the road.
@PSYCHOV3N0M3 жыл бұрын
@@lanceheaps581 I can't imagine that most average consumers would be willing to do returns, etc for TVs. Some people out there don't like any sort of hassle. Once they buy it, they psychologically convince themselves that they love it and leave it at that. Regardless, I personally think LG is pointlessly wasting money by manufacturing Nanocell TVs. They could save that money for more R&D or something else.
@lanceheaps5813 жыл бұрын
@@PSYCHOV3N0M I doubt they would return it. More like they buy an OLED from LG down the road next time they need a new TV. Not sure how well that strategy has worked for them. I have never looked at LG’s financials. Not sure if they would include that level of granularity any way.
@Bradanthonyd3 жыл бұрын
It's like comparing a Honda to a Ferrari
@PageCrowes3 жыл бұрын
I just got 75 Q80t. For 2150 plus tax.. I know its not the best tv on market but it was a stretch for me to get it . full array local dimming she has a breathtaking picture..
@RS-qo1mx3 жыл бұрын
Good tv
@willthorson45433 жыл бұрын
She? Lol. what's her name? Karen? Lol
@PageCrowes3 жыл бұрын
@@willthorson4543 lol.. Now i got to name her..
@zachlemley21743 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review. Almost went with the nano until seeing the issue with black color display
@DJCOOP19833 жыл бұрын
I own lg nano 49 866 model I have never seen these issues not as bad your showing on lg nano90 sure you have bad panel??
@Cristi-co8vr3 жыл бұрын
I've had 49nano863 also and the nano90 and they have the same problems. It depends also how you look at them. If you have them on a stand and not mounted to a wall they look very bad. LG planed these TV's to be wall mounted, so that you look at them from a lower position then the lower bezel.
@DJCOOP19833 жыл бұрын
@@Cristi-co8vr mine is on the stand I put local dimming to medium settings looks great for me I have not noticed it to be honest 😊. Most of the time I use it for my xbox one x looks great. Its not as good as my lg bx. 55 but thats oled
@Cristi-co8vr3 жыл бұрын
@@DJCOOP1983 Well, if you are gonna use it on PC and stay close to it, in middle, at about 1-2 feet, if you have some icons on the margins of the screen you are gonna notice that some of the text of the icons is missing. I didn't like that either. All LG IPS TV's have that problem, because of the bad screen engineering.
@DJCOOP19833 жыл бұрын
@@Cristi-co8vr why would you sit so close to 49 inch tv in the 1st place 🤭 Tvs and monitors are very different if you need sit that close then I suggest buy gaming pc monitor not a TV they are not designed for that use i would suggest try oled panel that be much better for you 😊 End of the day led/lcd tvs only go so far if sit that close to qled or nano be the same. Otherwise you should of bought samsung. But I'm very with my lg 49 866nano only paid £599 on sale. Very happy with it 😊
@Cristi-co8vr3 жыл бұрын
@Gate Crasher UK It means that you don't even know how and IPS panel should really look. NANOCELL is not an IPS panel anymore, is a mess. I have a TN screen on my PC LG Monitor that looks better when looking from sides.
@BaseballGodHD3 жыл бұрын
It's not really fair because the price ranges from the Q90T to the Nano90 are drastically difference. I feel like a Q80T vs Nano90 would've been a better comparison.
@avtechman773 жыл бұрын
Nothing comes close to the brightness, black levels and picture the quality of the Sony Z9D from 2016. 4 years later and it's still the King of LED TV's. The Samsung Q9FN from 2018 comes in second place.
@user-oq4rm5ci9p3 жыл бұрын
People who exchanged Z9D to Z8H say that Z8H is better
@ShersGarage3 жыл бұрын
Z9H is a touch brighter
@Soclean073 жыл бұрын
Z9G is the real successor of the Z9D, no led come close
@avtechman773 жыл бұрын
The Z9G is the actual replacement as it uses the same Master Backlight Drive having well above 500 zones. The Z9G and the Z9H are both 8K TV'S which we all know are way too early.
@Soclean073 жыл бұрын
@@avtechman77 yeah i think you right the Z9D and the Z9F are still king the 4K area
@vongoliablue3 жыл бұрын
if only i would have found your channel earlier in the year. I definitely would not have gotten the Nano cell sh*t lol . Great content btw!
@geiers60133 жыл бұрын
Try to give it back if possible.
@vongoliablue3 жыл бұрын
@Karin Ritter nano 8 series
@vongoliablue3 жыл бұрын
@@geiers6013 its too late now unless I give it away or buy something else.
@AM-dl7ot3 жыл бұрын
is it that bad???
@tallevi3 жыл бұрын
-what about Nano 97 and Nano 99 the blooming same? -You did not check "local dimming"? It improves viewing?
@jake_up80993 жыл бұрын
Lol I have a 55in. NanoCell90 and it looks NOTHING like what's pictured in this video.... WTF???
@circeseye13 жыл бұрын
same but a 75"
@jake_up80993 жыл бұрын
I bought it because I got a Series-X. I couldn't be happier. Yeah, it's not a Oled, but it's a damn good gaming TV, it checks all the boxes that the CX does when it comes to 4k @ 120hz. Netflix looks amazing as well, like I said it's not a $1400 Oled but it got me into 4k 120hz gaming for a cheaper price. Plus I don't have to worry about screen burn in. I don't know what he has the settings set on the NanoCell90 in the video, but my NanoCell90 doesn't look nothing like that and in REAL WORLD use it's a good TV. I mean do we actually notice everything that a computer generated program does when it comes to testing? Like milliseconds on input lag? Or a few pixels here and there? I finally got tired of worrying about that crap and just went out and bought a TV that I could afford that had HDMI 2.1 4k @ 120hz and I couldn't be happier.
@Cristi-co8vr3 жыл бұрын
In dark it looks the same. Had it and returned it.
@tguwop2423 жыл бұрын
Same bro
@ostrichious20423 жыл бұрын
glad i canceled my nanocell purchase for the oled. gonna get one on black friday
@enthusiast94323 жыл бұрын
Some people like over saturated vivid image your choice is Samsung. On the other hand LG has more life-like neutral image. Buy what you want
@StanslaMichael3 жыл бұрын
Thats the point of a comparison. You compare the two then make a choice that suits you.
@enthusiast94323 жыл бұрын
@@StanslaMichael some ppl love to watch monochrome image some grayscale, some prefer normal like LG
@enthusiast94323 жыл бұрын
For those who did not get it. It was a joke.
@walli32923 жыл бұрын
Never rated Nanocell if I were to buy a LED TV it would be SONY everytime best algorithm on the TV market place by far, best motion, best upscaling best build quality/reliability
@ArtVandelayOfficial3 жыл бұрын
No, Hisense
@ArtVandelayOfficial3 жыл бұрын
@@Soclean07 After hearing all the positive comments about 900h and 950h I went and viewed them in store,was very let down Always view them in person before deciding...
@Soclean073 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, Sony is the King of TV, best on: motion, picture quality, upscaling, design, build quality with attention to details and reliability, no one in this tv industry come close to Sony. Samsung, Hisense, Lg and all the rest are trying so hard but at the end of the day Sony is still Sony and the only brand who can really compete is another Japanese and it's Panasonic.
@Soclean073 жыл бұрын
@@ArtVandelayOfficial you clearly don't know what you talkin' about, the 950H is the best 4K LCD/LED tv this year
@R6ex3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtVandelayOfficial Same here. Saw beautiful KZbin videos of X900H, but at the shop, it looks dull compared to the Samsung QLEDs. No idea why. 😥
@chrisbouthiette11293 жыл бұрын
86" LG NANO91 or 85" Samsung QLED Q6DT from Costco ($2200) both basically the same price with 5 year warranty. Which would you pick for a dedicated dark theater room with direct viewing angles, no off angle viewing?
@Kris-jk9mq3 жыл бұрын
Read my review on the 82UN8570 and 86UN8570 on Rtings.com. I think you would be better off with the 82" VA panel over either the nano IPS or qled, and save 1000$ if you don't need VRR for gaming.. I got both from costco as well.
@macgyvermac23443 жыл бұрын
OLED TV spoiled people nowadays
@stickyjohanpsp3 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely not going back after getting an oled
@OmniOmegaKiller3 жыл бұрын
@@stickyjohanpsp Yeah right ... wait til you get burn in... unless you a rich.
@AlfaHazard3 жыл бұрын
@@OmniOmegaKiller You'll be waiting a long time. I have 4000h on a B9 used as monitor daily, not a hint of burn in. This is the wrong place to spread misinformation about burn in.
@stickyjohanpsp3 жыл бұрын
@@OmniOmegaKiller if I get burnin, ill just by a new one
@OmniOmegaKiller3 жыл бұрын
@@AlfaHazard misinformation?! yeah right, when you reach 8000h ~ 10000h plus mark... come to reply to me, until then, your comment indeed is the one misinformation.
@jonsanchez16233 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tiyo Vincent for a very Technical Review 👍 I therefore conclude that the Winner is the X900H 📺
@Frankenslide3 жыл бұрын
This
@unreconstructed91723 жыл бұрын
The nano90 and q90t are not even the same class. Proper comparison would be with the q80 or even 70t. Of course the 90t will be much better as far as local dimming, hell the 90t will lead in almost EVERY category. I own both the nano90 and the 80t and there's noticable difference in every category including gaming. Now the nano90 in 4k, hdr pretty darn good and I honestly I don't see the blooming at the levels seen here in this video. With all that said, both of those TV's pretty darn good and both blow away my previous 800 series Sony by miles especially in HDR.
@jarod72pm3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the samples, for a few details, I must admit that the overall LG image is better and clearer, does not suffer from a gray screen, has a lower glare and retains color throughout the area, also with the same settings puts more emphasis on detail, LG price / performance ratio is A perfect, recent comparison by OLED LG has shown that Nanocell is an equally quality competitor at a better price! LG is perfect for watching TV at night. The VA panel is already very dark and the details disappear, as well as the color range to the dark color disappears a lot. Samsung's suffering continues: - /, I have had LG products for several generations and LG is perfect for watching TV at home in the evening. I use a satellite VU that has a perfect picture!
@kekidit Жыл бұрын
THANKS ! I bought the LG Nano because half the price and I'm very satisfied with it
@Skylancer7273 жыл бұрын
Yeah for video VAs are far better than IPS displays. Though if you're a gamer IPS tends to be better as VA tends to have smearing which looks pretty bad and if you run games at 120hz makes the benefits of 120hz far less noticeable.
@TruClassic3 жыл бұрын
Anybody noticed the panning space comparison the samsung was missing stars and looked blurrier hmm curious
@Skylancer7273 жыл бұрын
The Samsung seems to crush small bright spots vs the LG blowing out blacks with backlight bleed. Each can look better in their own regards but the Samsung looks better as a whole.
@REDIUS9993 жыл бұрын
Your video are always a pleasure to watch Oh I am second !
@rujanshrestha67303 жыл бұрын
3:51 local dimming are getting confused on lg nano cell
@mba46773 жыл бұрын
Lol right
@mauriciolacruz2 жыл бұрын
I've always prefered the more neutral and natural color presentation on LG TVs over the warmer and more saturated color look on SAMSUNG TVs. However, for all the rest I do prefer SAMSUNG. If I had to pick one between these two, considering all aspects, it would definitely be the SAMSUNG.
@RBS223 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison. I liked.
@elgatosamurai95173 жыл бұрын
Q90T Gaming settings please 👌🤞👌🤞👌🤞
@DV-ou1yu3 жыл бұрын
Just set it yourself.....eye test lol
@MrRaitzi3 жыл бұрын
Game motion plus on 30fps single player titles. That is all you have to know.
@DV-ou1yu3 жыл бұрын
@@MrRaitzi Game motion plus adds noticable lag
@larsstougaard70973 жыл бұрын
Game on 🎮
@RS-qo1mx3 жыл бұрын
@iSolvano HDR nah in game mode warm 1 is the best in games like Cod warzone
@SkinCareLuver3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this bro I will be getting Qled for my bedroom. 45 inch since my room is not so bad but will get a nano sell soon once my settlement kick in hopefully this spring
@nicksajs3 жыл бұрын
More like IPS Vs VA.
@Skylancer7273 жыл бұрын
Yeah there are IPS QLED displays, my gaming monitor is one for example by AO Optronics, would have been more fair comparison of the technologies.
@llrainll3 жыл бұрын
I have the Samsung KS7000 from 2016. Should I upgrade to the LG Nanocell?
@MrLivemo2 жыл бұрын
Noooooo
@jayro68443 жыл бұрын
Don't think this is a proper comparison since the Q90T is about at the price range of a CX OLED. That would probably be a better comparison. The Nano90 would be better compared with the Q70T. And if you compare them, the Nano is way better. Tvs should be compared by price ranges, not models.
@themacsthecameraman53833 жыл бұрын
For 1x Q90T you can buy 2x LG NANO 90 ... really great comparision - TVs from totally different categories
@july1723 жыл бұрын
Finally found the guy who does the narrator for the cosmos channel
@tbone_yt3 жыл бұрын
The blooming is horrendous on the Nano but the detail lost on the background star field on the sammy at 6:12 makes the nano look great ... I have the XH9005 X900H but I’m starting to miss some of my old plasma kuro benefits and I feel I might have to go CX/oled as I’m unable to unsee the bloom etc that lcd/led brings...
@chriskorneluk22553 жыл бұрын
I turned off local dimming and blooming is gone, looks great
@TomUrich3 жыл бұрын
Not worth the difference in cost. LG is about 1 year ahead in value.
@H-2-O3 жыл бұрын
For the life of me - Vincent brother- I cannot understand why you have totally overlooked the NANO99 and it’s previous model, and focused on the nano90 instead, when it is now such an outdated model.... LG have improved over its panel technology, and from what my friend (NANO99 owner) states: it’s far far better... please review THAT model, as it does the panel technology justice ...
@XGamers3 жыл бұрын
Yea it's definitely a better tv. Especially with the gen 3 a9 processor.
@H-2-O3 жыл бұрын
@@XGamers absolutely x-gamers... FALD has been considerably tweaked and blooming has been brought to a minimum.... also, color accuracy, 4K @ 120, free sync (vrr) if I’m not mistaken, solid HDR, and much greater performance from the newer chip.
@XGamers3 жыл бұрын
@@H-2-O Yes blooming is very minimal at least for me. I got to get a new card so i can test it out. It does have freesync support along with g-sync despite no being featured on lg page or any supported list. I have noticed that VRR is disabled as in hdmi 2.1 spec VRR. I contacted LG to see if this can be enable simce the tv is more than capable. If not i might start myself a little class action lawsuit lol 🤗
@sprungrobin99783 жыл бұрын
I tried the bloomfest for a couple months... now im waiting for my q90 to arrive
@chriskorneluk22553 жыл бұрын
For the LG Nanocell, when local dimming is set to off, the picture looks great. Too bad this was not shown
@superunknown28123 жыл бұрын
This true i have one and once i turned it off it looks awesome
@tomatobrush32833 жыл бұрын
@@superunknown2812 If local dimming is so bad, I might as well get the nano 80 as it is the same as the nano 90 except 90 comes with full array dimming. Am I missing something?
@superunknown28123 жыл бұрын
@@tomatobrush3283 honestly thats the only difference between the two besides both have hdmi 2.1 capabilities and if your a gamer thats what ya want.
@superunknown28123 жыл бұрын
@@tomatobrush3283 actually not sure if the 80 series comes with hdmi 2.1 or not i know the 85 series and up does however,so better check the specs
@tomatobrush32833 жыл бұрын
@@superunknown2812 Yea the nano 86 comes with 2.1 and "Local Dimming" the nano 90 and up comes with "Full Array Dimming". I wonder if this is the dimming that you said is not very good and should be turned off? edit: Actually I see the 86 only goes up to 65".
@lykhq496 Жыл бұрын
I did not understand the conclusion ? Which one has the advantage? Qled or nano
@mizmera3 жыл бұрын
I saw this blooming on ssmsung qled at a shop. This was the reason I will wait for my OLED.
@CapiEtherielАй бұрын
I was expecting a Nanocell vs QLED showdown, but it seemed to be a lot about VA vs IPS...
@nunomoura35783 жыл бұрын
LG Local dimming always off and i never play or watch movies in a dark room. ✌
@tomatobrush32833 жыл бұрын
I am wondering if local dimming is so bad, I might a well get the nano 80 as that is the same, just doesn't have the local dimming feature. Do you notice blooming on your LG?
@nunomoura35783 жыл бұрын
@@tomatobrush3283 My LG is from 2017 55SJ850V! No blooming at all with LED Local Dimming always off...LG Nano 2020 never try it but i know the Nano 90/91/95 as better contrast than Nano series 8.✌
@opgam3r4823 жыл бұрын
@HDTVTest @10:40 Is the Camera Iso also providing the moss like area in the center of the screen to look over saturated due to focus reasons? And was Horizon Zero Dawn's Motion blur set to off for this particular side by side? Reason I ask is from what I'm able to see, given this video's non-source fed picture... I *think I almost prefer the detail preserved on the Nano90. Real life viewing of this scene proves otherwise I assume? Almost like some modest Dynamic Contrast or *low edge enhancements could clean up...
@dushk02 жыл бұрын
Also 6:10, I liked the LG more there (well, the stars at least, maybe simplified, loss of contrast but nice). In case of games, you can set picture (especially gamma correction) to your liking in game, they just compared it at the same settings, you probably won't keep swapping monitors out. Just take brick and mortar stores, there's a price range of tvs where the picture is purposely set to dull (maybe even the manufacturer sets it to that) or gets fed plain antenna signal, and there's a price range where they only play vibrant demo videos. What I mean is that the game mode may have different presets from the two manufacturers (it's not true that game mode is super neutrally showing just the original signal).
@opgam3r4822 жыл бұрын
@@dushk0 good to know... i've been keeping up with the LG... I'm kinda pissed every display that actually has good hardware for gaming, is 8k and expensive as hell...
@gbej13 жыл бұрын
What understand is this: If you want a TV that uses LED, buy Samsung QLED If you want a TV that used OLED, buy LG
@TheDezmen33 жыл бұрын
3:35 nothx, bye nanocell
@sagimayank3 жыл бұрын
Is the Frame 2020 better than the Sony X9500G for HD channels and content watching or not? I don't play games that often. Please suggest your honest opinions.
@crankmosh3 жыл бұрын
LG should give up on those IPS panels... they are crap for watching movies/TV
@OmarAlamy3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.. I bought a lg 55sk9000 nanocell ... I hated this television especially at night for hdr movies .... When you see full local dimming on the poster you are easily fooled ... I took finally a C9 oled is incomparable.
@SM-bp4lq3 жыл бұрын
Hdtest did u try nano91? how is it compared to lg cx?