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Sticking a 100MHz 486 OverDrive in the LGR Woodgrain PC

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LGR Blerbs

LGR Blerbs

Күн бұрын

Unboxing and upgrading (er, sidegrading?) the Woodgrain 486 with an actual 486 processor again. No more Pentium. This CPU is the venerable DX4-100, new old stock!

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@LGRBlerbs
@LGRBlerbs 3 жыл бұрын
LGR-viewing veterans will know my Steve1989MREInfo references go back a ways 😁 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nonOYnSgh7llhs0
@nehoymenoy3845
@nehoymenoy3845 3 жыл бұрын
They always catch me off guard, but I'm glad to know you're into the same obscure KZbin oddities I am.
@CandyGramForMongo_
@CandyGramForMongo_ 3 жыл бұрын
My channels are all colliding! Now do This Old Tony and LockPicking Lawyer!
@stridermt2k
@stridermt2k 3 жыл бұрын
INDEED! I love this channel!
@tuff_lover
@tuff_lover 3 жыл бұрын
No hiss, nice!
@SNLiszt
@SNLiszt 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that vid... 2018... oof, that hurts
@tefras14
@tefras14 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing i do NOT miss from those days is configuring jumpers
@rondee
@rondee 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was kind of nice! 😬
@mortrek
@mortrek 3 жыл бұрын
It seemed annoying until the fancy PnP stuff failed you and you wished you still had jumpers. I don't mind explicitly configuring stuff. It was also generally better for DOS, since PnP usually required drivers or TSRs. I hated PnP until it got good enough to be totally transparent. Even then, early jumperless motherboards could be very finicky.
@Droogie128
@Droogie128 3 жыл бұрын
I had an FIC motherboard back then. It was jumper hell. I believe it was the VA-503+ socket 7.
@mortrek
@mortrek 3 жыл бұрын
@@wazaagbreak-head6039 yeah things are going great now
@tomokokuroki2506
@tomokokuroki2506 3 жыл бұрын
And cutting your fingers on stuff.
@TyKaspy
@TyKaspy 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like Clint read my mind. He said accessory packet and I immediately thought of Steve… nice.
@dmacpher
@dmacpher 3 жыл бұрын
“Nice”
@mkelly0x20
@mkelly0x20 3 жыл бұрын
"Nice hiss."
@horacegentleman3296
@horacegentleman3296 3 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@JenniferinIllinois
@JenniferinIllinois 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!!
@fensoxx
@fensoxx 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@TheSulross
@TheSulross 3 жыл бұрын
"So many things to test all the time" - LGR unable to keep up with the tech avalanche of 30 years ago
@LGRBlerbs
@LGRBlerbs 3 жыл бұрын
Still catching up on the mid-90s, it’s true
@MattExzy
@MattExzy 3 жыл бұрын
The 90s really were a time if you bought a computer, it'd truly be 'outdated' in six months, or at least partially outdated. My PC now is six *years* old, and there's honestly no reason to replace it.
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 3 жыл бұрын
@@MattExzy The C64 lasted for 12 years.
@coffeepot3123
@coffeepot3123 3 жыл бұрын
@@MattExzy With windows 11 you got another 4 years. I'm going over to Linux as i don't want to upgrade my lovely hardware.
@anonUK
@anonUK 2 ай бұрын
​@maxxdahl6062 It was an extremely popular computer, so it was supported until the day Commodore collapsed- but by that time, there were "electronic organizers", calculators and updated Game Boy type devices with specs similar to/ better than the C64.
@JasonPullara
@JasonPullara 3 жыл бұрын
I keep imaging duke nukeem saying "overdrive" whenever this boots up.
@xPandamon
@xPandamon 3 жыл бұрын
There probably are ways to actually make this a reality I mean changing the boot sound was a possibility with other OS versions too
@expendableround6186
@expendableround6186 3 жыл бұрын
And I can't help think of Riviera's "Overdrive!" meter.
@plan7a
@plan7a 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps an S'Express - 'Theme From S'Express' ('Overdrive' reference or two when it boots instead?), and when turning off - 'Oh, that's bad!'?
@baroncalamityplus
@baroncalamityplus 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the Pentium overdrive was the same basic performance as a 486 dx4 100 (as seen here) but it included the additional instruction set of the Pentium. So if for some reason, software really required a Pentium cpu to work, that was your solution. A lot of people bought the Pentium over drive thinking it was better than the 486 and it was not.
@brokeandtired
@brokeandtired 3 жыл бұрын
Well it was faster...but it was more for keeping an old office PC alive for a few more years..than a serious upgrade. PC's were hellishly expensive even for basic PC's back then...it was a cheapish upgrade.
@hugiee
@hugiee 3 жыл бұрын
@@brokeandtired Had to chuckle at this comment. Price is relative, and back in the day, early 90s, the price was WAY more reasonable than during the latter half of the 80s, we're talking 8088 through 80386 class. That 80386 was hellish indeed, the "Compaq 386" was a dream out of reach.
@Walczyk
@Walczyk 3 жыл бұрын
@@brokeandtired faster how??
@MrKillswitch88
@MrKillswitch88 3 жыл бұрын
@lungshadow The FSB and the external cache was always the weak link that only really improved when the L2 cache was integrated onto the cpu. The memory controller was more often than not the main culprit where there was only about a third of the expected bandwidth vs what the ram of the period was often rated for.
@HardRockCamaro
@HardRockCamaro 3 жыл бұрын
@@hugiee The move to a 32-bit bus meant the 386 needed a much more expensive motherboard and RAM setup too, same situation as going from 486 to Pentium (which externally moved to 64-bit which means a more expensive chipset, ram and board design).
@JasonPullara
@JasonPullara 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't see any coffee instant type 2" .... nice.
@BenWillock
@BenWillock 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't get it out on to a tray, either
@Breakfast_and_Bullets
@Breakfast_and_Bullets 3 жыл бұрын
Confirmed: Clint watches Steve!
@hayleyxyz
@hayleyxyz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Breakfast_and_Bullets He did a funny imitation of Steve in part of one of his videos a while ago. I think it was it was on his main channel; can't remember. I actually found Steve's channel from that lol
@Breakfast_and_Bullets
@Breakfast_and_Bullets 3 жыл бұрын
@@hayleyxyz I must have missed that one
@merlyworm
@merlyworm 3 жыл бұрын
Doesnt everyone watch Steve1989? ....Nice hiss.
@markambrose1910
@markambrose1910 3 жыл бұрын
I remember getting a Pentium 63Mhz Overdrive Processor for my IBM PS/2, upgrading from a 486/66. It actually didn't work initially, we fortunately lived near a Microcenter and one of the associates informed us that we needed a new bios for the new cpu to work. $10 and 1 new eprom later and I was rocking Command And Conquer Red Alert like it was my job. How I miss the good old days.
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech Жыл бұрын
Rapporting?!?! Acknowledged!!!
@jonlonglastname
@jonlonglastname 3 жыл бұрын
Clint! teach me things from my past that we couldn't afford as geek kids!
@boedekerj1
@boedekerj1 3 жыл бұрын
A LOOOONG time ago, I had a 486-DX50 that I could overclock to 66MHz on an older VL-BUS mobo. I had to physically replace the oscillator to do so. So front side, processor bus AND cache ran AT 66MHz. It smoked my DX4-120 in most CAD and math operations. It's amazing how, back in the day, FSB was KING! I had CAD customers who insisted on using PentiumPro 233MHz even after the PII-400's came out. The PII's used 66MHz cache bus, whereas the PPro's used native FSB for the cache clock. They really slayed!
@dvdemon187
@dvdemon187 3 жыл бұрын
I will always fondly remember the very first time I fired up Quake and watched in awe the dark goodness of the Necropolis demo in all its glory on my 166MHz Cyrix system back in 1998 after unpacking 17 pirated ARJ-compressed diskettes. Aaah, good times!
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech Жыл бұрын
I remember buying 22 disks from PC WORLD thinking that I had to put the RAR files on discs, when I downloaded Terminator : Skynet from an FTP site. It was later that day I found the .nfo file and felt like a complete twat... What a game though! Played surprisingly well on the AMD PR-133 I was using at the time. Actually ended up buying the game. Like any honest Pirate should! ARRRR!
@SparksNZeros
@SparksNZeros 3 жыл бұрын
lets get this out onto a motherboard..nice.
@1nsanejochem
@1nsanejochem 3 жыл бұрын
This is Blerbs1989
@scopeshadow4432
@scopeshadow4432 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that, he posts Field Ration videos monthly.
@AdamIsUrqed
@AdamIsUrqed 3 жыл бұрын
*cuts plastic* "No hiss" "This spray dried chip has nice, robust, earthy overtones with a slightly plastic aftertaste."
@netsurferx1
@netsurferx1 3 жыл бұрын
...Mmmkay.
@neonaffliction
@neonaffliction 3 жыл бұрын
*Nice click*
@shards-of-glass-man
@shards-of-glass-man 3 жыл бұрын
It feels so weird to see a new and sealed 486 box, my brain has started to see the processors of that era as archeological artefacts for some reason
@dreammfyre
@dreammfyre 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these as a 13-year old, over optimistic kid and then proceeded to try to install it in the wrong socket, bending the outside pins. Lucky for me the store owner was good sports about it and was able to bend them back and gave me a full refund.
@scoobyrex247
@scoobyrex247 3 жыл бұрын
What year was it and how much?
@squirlmy
@squirlmy 3 жыл бұрын
@@scoobyrex247 any 13 year old being able to buy these must have been pretty rich. Certainly he could afford a better KZbin name than you!!! lol
@kathrynradonich3982
@kathrynradonich3982 3 жыл бұрын
Shame no coffee instant type 2. Steve would be disappointed 😔
@TastingKitty
@TastingKitty 3 жыл бұрын
I died laughing when I heard that reference 🤣
@amadeusagripino6862
@amadeusagripino6862 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@braydenh190
@braydenh190 3 жыл бұрын
No smokes either
@Sammmeow
@Sammmeow 3 жыл бұрын
Let's get the processor out on a reclosable chip tray. Nice.
@kaczan3
@kaczan3 3 жыл бұрын
OK, femcel.
@peterg.8245
@peterg.8245 3 жыл бұрын
I love that LGR’s MRE is an Intel Overdrive!
@ericmdk
@ericmdk 3 жыл бұрын
yum!
@NonsensicalSpudz
@NonsensicalSpudz 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickglaser1560 lets get this out onto a motherboard.. nice
@fractalbroccoli469
@fractalbroccoli469 3 жыл бұрын
'Coffee instant type 2' Inhales from cigarette 'I haven't heard that name in a long time'
@psychorabbitt
@psychorabbitt 3 жыл бұрын
Nice dry pull on that 75 year old cigarette
@flaturiah
@flaturiah 3 жыл бұрын
@@psychorabbitt *coughing profusely*
@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 3 жыл бұрын
Lets get this out on the Tray ;)
@colearmoryllc
@colearmoryllc 3 жыл бұрын
Nice hiss ?
@fensoxx
@fensoxx 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@creamthelapin
@creamthelapin 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is Blerbs but your skill of filming CRTs never ceases to amaze me. It's beautiful and truly appreciated.
@psychorabbitt
@psychorabbitt 3 жыл бұрын
4:11 that MRE reference was pretty... nice.
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 3 жыл бұрын
I think the fault lies with the ISA bus speed or the Chipset used, Shelby from Tech Tangents ran into a similar issue with the same 486 chip.
@livefreeprintguns
@livefreeprintguns 3 жыл бұрын
I just turned 40 years old on July 17th, and nothing gets my attention more than seeing "new old stock" for old electronics, ESPECIALLY audio gear.
@Kawa-oneechan
@Kawa-oneechan 3 жыл бұрын
I love how that SCSISelect™ line just straight-up lifts the curtain on how they did the graphical logos.
@TheSupercrazyman11
@TheSupercrazyman11 3 жыл бұрын
Blessed with a 20 minute video on the second channel! How do you sound so nonchalant about changing the jumpers? "Only a few" What? SO MANY
@LGRBlerbs
@LGRBlerbs 3 жыл бұрын
After years of screwing with the same set of them, it becomes pretty mundane :)
@TechTimeTraveller
@TechTimeTraveller 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these new in 95 or 96. Made a huge difference over what I had before (33?). This was the best era for the PC.. when you could just plunk in a different CPU and see a major change. PCs are plenty powerful today but they're not as fun as they used to be.
@KL1FF
@KL1FF 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. _That_ era of massive performance gains with just a CPU swap. Systems back then were more CPU-bound, too. Todays are more diversified, thus less "spectacular" when upgrading single parts (unless you know what kind of performance you're looking after). _sigh_ I miss those times.
@travis1240
@travis1240 3 жыл бұрын
CPU upgrades aren't dead... at least on AMD if you buy into a new socket architecture there's a good chance you'll be able to pop in a chip 2 generations later. I went from a Athlon 64x2 to an AthlonIIx4 on AM2+ and recently from a Ryzen 1600 to a Ryzen 3700X on AM4. But yeah it's still not quite like popping in a 486 that's literally 3x faster. sigh.
@marcusborderlands6177
@marcusborderlands6177 3 жыл бұрын
You can totally have a massive jump like that today. Upgrading from a Celeron or pentium to an i5 is a massive jump. Same with an athlon to an r5
@TechTimeTraveller
@TechTimeTraveller 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcusborderlands6177 I've noticed big gains going from an ancient i7-920 to a Ryzen 5.. but it still doesn't feel quite as across the board dramatic as it did back when I was upgrading in the late 80s and early 90s.
@marcusborderlands6177
@marcusborderlands6177 3 жыл бұрын
@@TechTimeTraveller in terms of general OS "feel" (i guess thats the term?) its not that big of a difference, but games and programs run WAYYYYY faster on modern cpus, although a 920 was a decent cpu to begin with. If you just want that feeling of everything being wayyyy faster, try slapping in an ssd, felt like when i went from a single core pentium to a 3 core phenom back in the day lol
@Zontar82
@Zontar82 3 жыл бұрын
Man wish i could be as happy with my job as Clint
@KINGan72
@KINGan72 3 жыл бұрын
After Clint mentioned that the accessory pack didn't include Instant Coffee Type 2, I was waiting for him to say "now let's get this onto a tray...NICE!"
@DurocShark
@DurocShark 3 жыл бұрын
I worked in a PC store when those CPUs were hot... We used to call the DX4-100 and DX4-120 processors "Pentium killers". Significantly cheaper, and worked just as well on CURRENT FOR THE TIME software.
@TheT0nedude
@TheT0nedude 3 жыл бұрын
Not for floating point software, Quake also runs MUCH smoother on a P60 than even the dx4-120 because of this.
@soylentgreenb
@soylentgreenb 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheT0nedude Floating point games didn't really exist at the time. If you bought a pentium for FPU performance that would only have been justified with CAD or something that actually used floating point.
@JJop123
@JJop123 3 жыл бұрын
4:10 I knew he watches Steve 😂😂
@dannyarnold9823
@dannyarnold9823 3 жыл бұрын
if I remember correctly there were a rash of 'Fake write back cache" motherboards by dubious manufactures back in the day that were poor performers. One of the caveats was the bus speed as well. You could get better performance from a native 486 @ 33Mhz than a Pentium Overdrive @ 25Mhz. Thanks for the great video, I had forgotten much about my early years as a system builder back then, a lot of forgotten knowledge that was completely useless until now.
@sierraboney1394
@sierraboney1394 3 жыл бұрын
Yep there was indeed, I was one of the people that ended up buying one and not knowing till later! I don't remember the make of it but I later on found out that the cache ram was fake despite it saying it had 256 kb Write -back at bootup (rigged bios I assume) as a test program or two that I used said it was 0 kb! Couple that with the 'It's ST' DX2-50 Cyrix clone I had on it and it was probably quite a bit slower than it should've been!
@NGNetwork1
@NGNetwork1 3 жыл бұрын
I would love for you to send one of those registration cards in one day, just to see what happens!
@GTFour
@GTFour 3 жыл бұрын
I think should photocopy and send in every single one every time and see if anything ever comes back lol
@YourLocalCatboy
@YourLocalCatboy 3 жыл бұрын
20MHz faster than a supercomputer from 20 years before. Stuff moves quick!
@Big_Tex
@Big_Tex 3 жыл бұрын
You know you’re in for a treat when Clint breaks out the pocketknife.
@MatSpeedle
@MatSpeedle 3 жыл бұрын
Can't beat a fast 486, I remember a friend of mine having a DX4-120 when we'd all moved to pentiums. It was still hanging in there and cool even back then :D Love the little steve1984 nod there too ;)
@deadaccount6135
@deadaccount6135 3 жыл бұрын
@Mat Speedle Heck yeah, I had one too, a cyrix chip, and as long as the games or programs didn't look at processor type, only speed, I could run stuff meant for pentium 90/100. Good time for building PC's back then for sure. 👍
@travis1240
@travis1240 3 жыл бұрын
A fast 486 still sucked at Quake though... Couldn't compete with Pentium-optimized assembly code.
@DeinonychusCowboy
@DeinonychusCowboy 3 жыл бұрын
"Greetings and blerbs" is going on my christmas cards this year
@Trev0r98
@Trev0r98 3 жыл бұрын
Back in Dec. 1993 I had a 486 PC, had a 486SX-25 (surface mount), also had onboard 1 MB Cirrus Logic CL-GD5428 Vesa Local Bus video. Around May of 1995 I upgraded the RAM from 8 MB to16 MB (70ns), and installed an AMD 5x86-133 CPU (raised the system bus speed from 25MHz to 33 MHz using the system board jumper switches), worked perfectly. Full-on beast mode. I remember I was always able to get DukeNuke 'Em 3D to run at 60 FPS at 1024x768x8 on rails, throughout the entire game. My monitor was a 15" ViewSonic multisync glass CRT - loved it. I also ran Windows 98, RedHat Linux 5.1 and Sun Solaris x86 on it, all perfectly. 500 MB Quantum Fireball IDE drive, and a Teac 52x speed CD-ROM drive. Thing was a beast, but a lighting strike zapped it back in 2001.
@tron3entertainment
@tron3entertainment 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 486DX2/66 I sold to a guy on eBay years ago. In my ad I state some motherboards could be jumped to change the base speed to 33MHZ, and thus make the PC even faster. The buyer had one such pc, a 486SX/16. He jumpers the MB and reports back to me how blazing fast his "old" PC has become. He was happy, I was happy to hear it, and got a nice feedback for my trouble. 😁
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech Жыл бұрын
I bet he thought it was christmas, the difference must have been huge!
@tron3entertainment
@tron3entertainment Жыл бұрын
@@TheVanillatech - When I went from 33 MHz to 66 MHz it was a 50% increase in performance. Which doubled when I put in my DX/100. DX/133 saw no additional improvement. Turned out to be a "status" upgrade.
@novafire99
@novafire99 3 жыл бұрын
When I was working on those systems when they were new, I always found the SIS chipset boards to be a bit slower. Also, found that not all cache chip configurations and cache vendors the same. Max cache memory on some of those boards also slowed them down slightly in some configurations.
@Fastwunz
@Fastwunz 3 жыл бұрын
Had this processor as a kid - was such a massive upgrade from the 386 we had
@stephanemignot100
@stephanemignot100 3 жыл бұрын
Clint, Adrian, Phil... Perfect video!
@temperate_kiwi5201
@temperate_kiwi5201 6 ай бұрын
My first computer has this processor in it, still have the system after all these years and planning to restore it to its full retro glory
@WildkatPhoto
@WildkatPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
Has to be one of the most bizarre 90s upgrades ever. I was selling Socket 7 white box systems at the time and I would have people bring these in wanting a K5 upgrade. Like they thought they could put a K5 on top of their overdrive.
@experimental0000
@experimental0000 3 жыл бұрын
LGR + Action Retro are some great nostalgia.
@KevinRay_man
@KevinRay_man 3 жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm is absolutely infectious. That's what I think.
@murderdoggg
@murderdoggg 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 486dx PC back in the day. A year or two later I upgraded the CPU to a 586 133 mhz. I remember the game Descent running so much faster. It went from like 4 FPS to very playable. Great upgrade.- Would do again.
@ChrisBarnes575
@ChrisBarnes575 3 жыл бұрын
Nice SteveMRE reference LOL!
@SNARC15
@SNARC15 3 жыл бұрын
"No Coffee-Instant Type II." I'm just waiting for you to next say "Now let's get this out on the tray...NICE!" Shout out to @Steve1989MREInfo
@bitrage.
@bitrage. 3 жыл бұрын
crazy how those ol sounds of games starting up like give ya that blink of absolute joy you felt back in the day
@iKilledAppl3
@iKilledAppl3 3 жыл бұрын
I love the nod to Steve in this video! I was thinking the same thing when you said accessory packet and put back on a shelf as a display piece… nice!
@iKilledAppl3
@iKilledAppl3 3 жыл бұрын
Also amazing video as always Clint!
@gstcomputing65
@gstcomputing65 3 жыл бұрын
You down with ODP? Yeah, you know me!
@wskinnyodden
@wskinnyodden 3 жыл бұрын
If you can set the cache to Write-Back instead of Write-Through you will improve performance considerably!
@thelegalsystem
@thelegalsystem 3 жыл бұрын
Unboxing old tech will always be interesting to me, its the coziest content
@parkflyerindonesia
@parkflyerindonesia 3 жыл бұрын
The higher the tower case, the bolder the owner's pride 😄 thanks for bringing up these good old memories
@ColtGColtG
@ColtGColtG 3 жыл бұрын
4:09 "lets get this Steve1989MREInfo reference onto a video, NICE."
@Grom-rl8bm
@Grom-rl8bm 3 жыл бұрын
I liked that Steve MRE reference 🤌
@MatigrisSH
@MatigrisSH 3 жыл бұрын
The Steve1989MREInfo reference at 4:11 is CLASSIC! Nice one LGR :)
@cromulence
@cromulence 3 жыл бұрын
These chips kicked butt. I had a Dell 486 with a DX2 50 when I was 8/9 years old (this was the early 00's when you could literally get one of these for free from the local dump and my brother had the bug for fixing PCs... I got the bug from him, and the hand-me-down PCs and components) and installed one of these into it - it made Windows 95 SO much faster!
@JohnSmith-xq1pz
@JohnSmith-xq1pz 3 жыл бұрын
Woot Woodgrain 486, er Pentium upgrade video. Time to update my play list Maybe I'll binge watch the whole play list tonight... Edit Yup I ended up rewatching the while Woodgrain saga
@Torzelan
@Torzelan 3 жыл бұрын
Played _so_ much Quake on my DX4 100MHz, tweaked & reduced window size 👌
@iantellam9970
@iantellam9970 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it could run pretty playably tbh.
@musicaldude9429
@musicaldude9429 3 жыл бұрын
Love these cpu upgrades just show stuff that I like but I don’t have to pay money to do it my self I can watch a vid and get the same satisfaction and enjoyment out of it
@1chrisandrew1
@1chrisandrew1 3 жыл бұрын
That's how I played Quake with my DX4100 in the mid-90s - it was slow, but I loved it. And playing GP2 was like watching a slide show. Eventually upgraded to a Pentium 150 and a year or so afterwards a Diamond Stealth Voodoo II - awesome times
@YarisTex
@YarisTex 3 жыл бұрын
If you want the fastest Intel 486, you should get a DX4 with the &EW print on it. It has a slightly improved core and faster cache. And it should run in Write Back.
@CoolDudeClem
@CoolDudeClem 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember when a 486 was the best CPU available. I feel so old.
@nednettapp
@nednettapp 3 жыл бұрын
Same, but feel blessed that I lived to witness some of the most exciting advances in computer technology. The pace of change seems to have slowed in recent years.
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I didn't understand what MMX was other than it sounded cutting-edge. I didn't even know it was meant to help gaming.
@eupher2
@eupher2 2 жыл бұрын
We used the AM486 DX4 100 until 1997 and it was a absolute beast of a machine. I remember Quake and Duke 3D running with no problems. But then again our computer had 36MB of ram and I think a 3MB Video Card which is probably the reason why.
@ItIsNot1984
@ItIsNot1984 3 жыл бұрын
5:50 Your gibberish is impeccable. I too speak it randomly, and I have no idea why.
@Pianoj10
@Pianoj10 3 жыл бұрын
Just as I ran out of things to watch!
@AdamChristensen
@AdamChristensen 3 жыл бұрын
Same. But, is there ever really a shortage of content on KZbin? 😅
@mazarinee
@mazarinee 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdamChristensen yes.
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 3 жыл бұрын
GREEEETINGS KING BLEEERB! Making my shitty monday just that much less crap.
@ccdani2
@ccdani2 3 жыл бұрын
This brings some memories , got my first PC at age of 9 in 1999 it had a celeron 500Mhz with 64mb of ddr sdram and 4gb HDD
@Sim2322
@Sim2322 3 жыл бұрын
WIndows 95, 100MHz 486, 32Mb of RAM => My childhood. Played Diablo, Starcraft, Civ 2, Mist, NHL 97, XCOM and Age of Empires for days on end on that thing! Ohhhh, the memories!
@musek5048
@musek5048 3 жыл бұрын
back when ANY fps was acceptable because it was all about getting to play the damn games at all!
@kkolakowski
@kkolakowski 3 жыл бұрын
About this "iCOMP® Index" - I guess that those benchmarks also doing some floating point tests. Pentium was slightly faster "clock per clock" than 486'es in integer operations (that's why 83Mhz Pentium Overdrive is more or less the same as 100Mhz 486), but it was WAY faster in floating point operations (famously: that's why Quake was running so much better on Pentiums). Thing is, that back in the 90s, floating point calculations were used rather sparsly, even in benchmarks - so I guess all those benchmarks that gave comparable performance were mostly integer based. I bet Pentium would be much faster in some floating point benchmarks. Quake would probably show a difference - but it didn't work sadly... Also: Pentium Overdrive would be slower than "real" Pentiums with PCI bus, newer motherboards - so that has to be counted as well.
@emmanueloverrated
@emmanueloverrated 3 жыл бұрын
You are right. Only Quake in the games he tested used FPA. Most game of that era were doing their "floating" calculus on fixed arithmetic... which is Integer based... Doom did so, Build based games too, so a pentium didn't made the cut for those.
@vladimirrodionov5391
@vladimirrodionov5391 3 жыл бұрын
Pentium has two pipelines, optimized microcode, better cache architecture, some instructions hardwired so much faster. Pentium optimized code is at least 2x faster than 486 clock-for-clock for integer.
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 3 жыл бұрын
The Floating Point checks were interesting. I guess they were put in to reassure people that Intal could make a fully working FPU, unlike the ones they put in the original Pentiums. At the time I saw a funny spoof story along the lines of 2000.8977889 An Intel Space Odyssey. "Open the cargo bay doors HAL. :- No I will kill you like I killed the other 2.83 crew" :-)
@soylentgreenb
@soylentgreenb 2 жыл бұрын
@@emmanueloverrated Build used a little bit of floating point for some setup for slopes. It really hurts you on an 486SX system (with no FPU), but isn't enough to really benefit pentium greatly over a DX system. You can search the source code for Doom though and you'll only find a single float instruction in there and it is not used when compiling for X86.
@emmanueloverrated
@emmanueloverrated 2 жыл бұрын
@@soylentgreenb Of course when talking about a subject like that, we infer the critical parts, not the routines that are nearly never called nor those impacting the frame rate. You're right about Doom. I messed with its source code back them, the arithmetic is very well done.
@Mehoozhi
@Mehoozhi 3 жыл бұрын
Every time Clint breaks a seal on one of these vintage products i get a small heart attack
@TheRealDx
@TheRealDx 3 жыл бұрын
I used to run Quake on my desktop pc using that processor, so much good memories :D
@tcaldwe
@tcaldwe 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Steve1989 reference, (again!) Coffee type II is the best part of the accessories kit.
@zzco
@zzco 3 жыл бұрын
I think your Pentium OverDrive had a buggy Protected Mode implementation, and thus crashed UNIX-y software?
@BigDrewski1000
@BigDrewski1000 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the days when you didn't need a cooler for your processor that was 100 times the size of the processor. Lol
@MrCumstein
@MrCumstein 3 жыл бұрын
It’s really surprising how many (about 7 or 8 probably) KZbinrs I watch that make SteveMRE references. LGR is probably the second most mentioned/referenced YT’er I’ve come across. It’s appropriate because both are legends on this platform.
@calebsockington8642
@calebsockington8642 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest performance jump i ever felt was going from a late era pentium 4 to a Core2Duo e6700. Literally breathed new life into windows, everything felt insanely faster. I think back to pentium 4's and recall them as the dark ages of desktop computing.
@sjogosPT
@sjogosPT 11 ай бұрын
If you forgot about Pentium 4 and just go AMD route you had amazing machines. AMD Athlon XP CPUs were very fast and afordable. Was a great time to build machines at time.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 3 жыл бұрын
132 points in SysInfo sounds quite slow. As far as I remember I'm getting 144 points on dx2-66 without any tweaking. Strange.
@logansorenssen
@logansorenssen 3 жыл бұрын
PCI motherboard?
@pigfish99
@pigfish99 3 жыл бұрын
coffee instant type 2 been watching SteveMREInfo again?
@michaeldemers2716
@michaeldemers2716 3 жыл бұрын
I was very happy with my purchase of the woodgrain Acute Angle PC from Ali-Express. So happy in fact I bought two of them.
@kcopy
@kcopy 2 жыл бұрын
I recently got a Socket 3 mainboard with an AMD 486DX 100MHz here. With standard settings I have exactly the same 132.3 points in System Information. With sharp RAM timings I get 198 points and d11.9 FPS in Quake! You should revise your RAM settings :) Apart from that, I would have expected the Intel DX4 100 to be faster, since it has more cache. Watching your videos is always fun!
@thicclink
@thicclink 3 жыл бұрын
"PGA 169...Nice."
@Bantam80
@Bantam80 3 жыл бұрын
"Let's get this out onto a tray."
@Miasmark
@Miasmark 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could find my original Packard Bell that had a similar processor. My first computer was a 25mhz 486 sx which later got upgraded to 100mhz dx4. We probably got a cheaper off-brand version though.
@sierraboney1394
@sierraboney1394 3 жыл бұрын
I had a self built 486 DX2-50 back in the 90's (first PC that I built myself), it ran a Cyrix clone "It's ST" cpu. I eventually put it in to a computer place I used to get it upgraded to a DX4-120 but they were broken into on the weekend my PC was there and a bunch were stolen including mine! I got the option of the DX4-120 (I assume it was the AMD cpu) or a Pentium 75 on their insurance so I went with the Pentium 75, I sometimes wonder what sort of speed the DX4-120 would've been though in comparison.
@Miasmark
@Miasmark 3 жыл бұрын
@@sierraboney1394 my second computer was a Packard Bell Pentium 75mhz and it felt a bit faster. I did not have a benchmark at the time but just in use it certainly felt faster than the 100mhz. Probably on par with a 120mhz 486 provided the rest of the computer matches the socket 7 variety for the Pentium. That is to say it may come down to the motherboard.
@toyfreaks
@toyfreaks 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being so excited to get my Cyrix 486/100! Never thought computers would get any faster than that ...until about 6 months and $500 later!
@davidromeroblaya7920
@davidromeroblaya7920 3 жыл бұрын
This brings me back memories of my first computer.
@rinner2801
@rinner2801 3 жыл бұрын
I remember opening that same package and dropping this chip in my rig. I thought the heatsink looked killer at the time =)
@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays 3 жыл бұрын
Question. If you sent in the registration now, would it be homoured? It was sealed in box, so is new. Technically.
@SamFirthDesigner
@SamFirthDesigner 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking it would be so cool if Clint was to send a bunch of them in and make a video about the responses :)
@plan7a
@plan7a 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh, many questions would need to be answered for this: How long is it guaranteed for, what happens if it fails? Is there a like for like replacement or does it have to be something of equal or better value. At today's prices, of course. LOL. Methinks someone would need to be a time-traveller to get the exact same product in some cases as the item being registered could be almost impossible to source? What information does one put onto the card - information when one purchased it or information relevant to today. I think the funniest answer would be what store did you get this from? Can that store get some props for selling it to you? Where do you send/take it if the store is no more? And finally, how long IS a lifetime guarantee? LOL. So long as they didn't want a receipt... LOL. (Sorry comment is a bit long).
@lauram5905
@lauram5905 3 жыл бұрын
It depends if the box/address is still open and if USPS honors the business reply agreement they had back then (if you didn't need a stamp). Sorry to be the fun police, I work for the mail 😂
@atrus445
@atrus445 3 жыл бұрын
The first machine I could call my own was a 486 DX4. I miss that machine. Given to me by my IT father when I was in Junior High.
@Flojer0
@Flojer0 3 жыл бұрын
Audio people get to roll op-amps, I'm happy to watch someone roll CPU's just for fun.
@hwykng82
@hwykng82 3 жыл бұрын
I remember staring at a wall in duke 3d and minimising the screen to see how high fps i could get. 300 fps yeah!
@plan7a
@plan7a 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine reading the comments now: 'Who else is playing Duke 3D on a postage stamp sized screen in 2021!' LOL.
@SimonVideo
@SimonVideo 3 жыл бұрын
You should try to register the warranty 😂
@plan7a
@plan7a 3 жыл бұрын
First Name: Duke. Last Name: Nukem. Current address: etc? Some months pass by after Clint has posted the warranty. Junk mail starts appearing (at Clint's address even though he used a more relevant one for DN). Dear Mr Nukem thank you for filling in and returning the warranty card for the... are you aware for a further $$ we can offer you a free upgrade to the device you registered with us today. Simply call us on... LOL.
@SurrealAdventure
@SurrealAdventure 3 жыл бұрын
You brought back memories with that Quake time demo. I remember downloading it on MY AMD486 DX4 100 and it ran so bad (same as what your getting here) I literally drove to Fry's Electronics, and bought the parts to build a Pentium system, just so I could run it. Good times!
@Nexy9
@Nexy9 3 жыл бұрын
Oh the 90’s PC marketing schemes, bless your heart
@stevejolly8231
@stevejolly8231 3 жыл бұрын
Better stock cooler than the current lot of Intel chips come with 😋
@prozacgodretro
@prozacgodretro 3 жыл бұрын
TBF, you did get two digits in that quake timedemo... just... half of them were on the wrong side of the decimal.
@theAessaya
@theAessaya 3 жыл бұрын
Woo, that's the CPU i upgraded my first i486 DX-33 machine with! Thinking back, with the little knowledge I've had about computers in general back then, I'm lucky I didn't explode anything and the upgrade went super smoothly :)
@camotech1314
@camotech1314 Жыл бұрын
I like it when Cliff talks about benchmarks 😃
@luna-hw9li
@luna-hw9li 3 жыл бұрын
The bottleneck is probably the VESA local bus in this machine...
@adamsmees4250
@adamsmees4250 3 жыл бұрын
so cool that you keep putting Adrian Black over. his channel is great.
@jordanmalfara1501
@jordanmalfara1501 3 жыл бұрын
Older computer hardware isn't my jam, but I do love watching people who are enthusiastic about it
@jasmijndekkers
@jasmijndekkers 9 ай бұрын
Nice overclocking. Great content as well. Greetings from Steven from the Netherlands
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