the hate train against liam has been so incredibly intense for years. i hate seeing people try to rewrite the narrative and act like that wasn’t the case. so much of it was completely unwarranted, too. it’s like the world wanted one of the members to be the laughing stock and they chose liam, who, (and i mean this in the nicest way possible-i love all of the boys) was arguably the most naturally talented and wanted to succeed the most. he wasn’t unsuccessful, but he was ruthlessly bullied for just existing, especially towards the end.
@o_huskywolfdean7Күн бұрын
Understood the hate train against him.
@qwertyvexed8316Күн бұрын
You can name the group who actually was doing all that, you know.
@fatimakerrar2 күн бұрын
A rant about Liam’s solo career because that’s something always bothered me. I don’t know why people say that Liam was the least popular member of 1D or the member whose career went downhill after 1D. In terms of numbers and I hate comparing but he’s in the 4th place above Louis and Louis is doing well himself selling out stadiums. I think Liam was under appreciated and over hated but not the least popular member or the member with a flop solo career. Liam has made strip that down the second biggest selling solo single from a 1D member behind pillowtalk by Zayn, strip that down sold over 10 million units worldwide and it has over 1 billion streams. You probably already watched that part in this interview but in 2018 he managed to break a record and be one of the most attended outdoor concerts with 110000 attendees it was also in Dubai a country were you wouldn’t think that Liam was popular there as a soloist. His first and only album LP1 sold over 3 million copies globally in 10 months despite the fact that there was a massive hate train going around him and he had a shitty team. The album now has over 3 billion streams on Spotify There was a time up until 2020/2021 when he was the most streamed member from 1D. He has over 3 billion streams on Spotify with 56 songs (26 original songs and 30 are remixes and different versions of the 26 songs). His virtual shows and live streams during the pandemic were doing good and pulling in numbers. Only after the Logan Paul podcast in 2022 where the hate got really bad but after he apologised a couple of times and he took a break from the internet after that I feel like the hate got less towards him. He was supposed to go on tour in the end of 2023 and I was so excited for him and I had a feeling that he was going to show the world that he was capable of doing a successful sold out tour too as a soloist and for him to see the love he was going to receive but unfortunately he had kidney infection and had to cancel the tour so he never had the chance to show the world that he was capable too of selling out shows and do a successful solo tour but the fans still showed him some love after his kidney infection. He was excited for his upcoming album because unlike his first album he played a big role in the next album, it was going to be more honest, open and vulnerable. He said in this interview that he didn’t find his sound yet and he didn’t have the moment where he found his sound unlike the other members where they first released a couple of songs or an album until they finally found their sound, Liam finally had that moment with his next album based on what he said. I hope his family release the album someday to honour him because he was so proud of it. Unfortunately for him when he released teardrops (his last song) it was around the time his ex released a fictional book accusing Liam of serious stuff he got hate for it and unfortunately he didn’t get the chance to tell his side of the story or even know what the truth is. Teardrops managed to get 4 millions streams in 7 months before his death it’s not bad but because of what happened after the song released with his ex accusation, the song was sadly kinda overshadowed. Also his label never promoted him well I’ve seen a lot of people that didn’t even know about teardrops existence even though many people liked it after hearing it. I’ve also seen a lot of videos about the top 10 Liam Payne songs and most of the comments people were saying that they knew most or all of the songs but they didn’t know it was Liam Payne who sang them. The label rejected a lot of his songs, delayed both of his albums and they dropped him shortly before his death because they said that the sound of the music he was making it wasn’t what they had in mind for him and they thought that it wouldn’t bring listeners and wouldn’t appeal to the 1D fans but I think the 1D fans would’ve liked the second album more. He has between 9 to 11 millions monthly listeners even before his death. Overall despite everything from the hate to the record label he still managed to have a successful solo career unlike what people are/were saying and he’s not the least successful member. Last thing the thing about him trying to escape from his room through the balcony and fell it was a theory made by TMZ and it looks like the judge of his case is going with it but if you followed the case what they’re saying doesn’t really make sense because all wetnesses keep changing their testimonies and they all contradict each other and the judge sees nothing suspicious about that but what can I expect from a corrupted justice system. Right near Liam’s balcony there’s a door that takes to some sort of emergency stairs that can easily be accessed from all the balconies in the hotel so if he wanted to escape the hotel he could have used it. Sorry for this long rant also sorry for my bad English because English is not my first language. Also I don’t mean any hate to anyone with this comment it’s just a thought I had.
@fairypjm36032 күн бұрын
thank you for all of this. i hate that people think his legacy is being the failed solo artist of the group. it’s not true. he had some huge successes that were overshadowed by his struggles.
@AnneGardner-q4y2 күн бұрын
Spot on.
@goha9218Күн бұрын
also they make him sound like a failure when what he did in his life was more than most of us will ever achieve. whoever was "the least successful in 1d" is still very successful. besides theres is different definition of success other than commercial success which couldve been more meaningful to them
@AnneGardner-q4yКүн бұрын
@ a failure he was not, he had the largest audience of any of them. He was the best singer in the band, why he received so much negativity anyone’s guess.
@meowcraft2403Күн бұрын
spot on!! exactly all of this 100%!! Liam never got the chance to show the world what he really was capable of as a solo artist. He worked so hard to stay clean and do better for himself, he was excited to go on tour release his second album, this album he said he was very vulnerable in it, put a lot of hard work and tears into it, it's a shame the world didn't get to see what Liam really was. it was clouded by hate that he didn't deserve at all!! and I truly believe Liam did not just fall of a balcony like they are claiming i been following this case very closely to many inconveniencies they say one thing that say other and completely contradict them Selfs over and over. roger is 100% guilty brain is guilty to some point the hotel is guilty, every staff that manhandled Liam is guilty!!
@lii75622 күн бұрын
I love your reactions to Liam I wish you would do more This makes me feel like he is still here ❤
@lii75622 күн бұрын
The fact is that Liam talked a lot about hotel rooms and being confined in them, even while he was in the band. They said that he was the member who hated being alone in hotel rooms the most, so they should have just helped him that day instead of dragging him around like a sack (A picture appeared of him and hotel workers carrying him badly) so he would have been alive now. !
@KristinSudholzКүн бұрын
The ‘locked in a room’ bit… even if Mgmt didn’t physically lock them in, the fans surrounding the hotel and trying to chase them down, kept them inside the hotel… they all tell stories about escaping in a bread van to see the Our Redeemer statue.
@carolefletcher16 сағат бұрын
They might physically have locked them in. It happened to other created bands, such as Hear'Say.
@susanschwanbeck689020 сағат бұрын
GREAT REACTION, SO FAR! SO GOOD TO HEAR THAT SOMEONE ELSE THOUGHT THAT HE WAS THE LEADER, MATURE, MOST SERIOUS, HARDEST WORKER, BEST VOCALIST, ETC.! LIAM SAYS SOMEWHERE THAT HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH ADHD AT SOME POINT! WATCH THE SAN SIRO, MILAN, ITALY CONCERT AND SEE HIM JUMPING ALL OVER THE STAGE WITH FULL ENERGY FOR WELL OVER AN HR!! HE WAS CONTINUALLY ENGAGING THE CROWD! HE SEENED TO BE THE PRODIGY OF THE GROUP, BUT THE PREDISPOSITION TO ADDICTION NEVER ALLOWED HIM TO GROW/SHARE HIS TALENT! THAT DNA HAS TO BE IN HIS FAMILY (TOWARD ADDICTION)! YOU ARE SO RIGHT THAT HE TRIED SO HARD! THE MEDIA REALLY CRUCIFIED HIM, AND HE DID NOT HAVE GOOD MANAGEMENT LIKE HARRY! ALSO, A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO MENTION IS THE FACT THAT HE HAD HIS SON WITH A WOMAN WHO WAS 10 YEARS OLDER THAN HE WAS AND WAS A JUDGE ON THE XFACTOR BOTH TIMES HE AUDITIONED!! THEY GOT TOGETHER WHEN HE WAS 21 AND SHE WAS 31! I THINK THAT THEY LOVED EACH OTHER, BUT IT WAS A VERY "INTERESTING" RELATIONSHIP!
@hendalaam3438Күн бұрын
thanks for the reaction. please keep talking about your thoughts we want to hear it that's why we are here and that's what the reaction videos for. about Liam he was most controlled by his management in his sole career than the other boys. he didn't have the creative control over the songs he has to record. he wrote many songs by himself about his experience the record label rejected them. I think he was set up for failure. even though he wasn't the least successful one till 2022 and logan Paul podcast. his first single was a big hit with over billion streams. his first album even after the hate he reserved and the campaigns and trends against him the album did well and made over 3 Million global sales and over 3 billions streams on spotify only and gone silver album, without forgetting his Dubai concert which sold out 110,000 crowd in such small country with less publication. I think the problem is Liam understmated himself and what he's capable of a lot and he always thought he's less the the others even in the band and that of course because of how people and most of 1D fans under appreciated him and his talent they bullied him a lot and he was the least one they're cheering for because the label that the management gave him the most boring label he had to be the dad of the group and to be responsible of them and always had to apologize for the things they have made even if he wasn't a part of it. and they have to sell this brand to a teenage girls of course it won't work . and even after the band he kept receiving bullies and unnecessary hate for just breathing. repeating to him he can't sing blah blah blah. all that affected him and his self confidence. his second album would be different he wrote most of it himself and he was proud of what he did, I hope we get the chance to hear it someday and one of his family or friends release it because he put a lot of hard work on it. about his sobriety I think he made it for more than year since early 2023 till few days before the tragedy maybe he relapsed after another wave of hate and cyber bullying after he went to Niall's show in Argentina they called him attention seeker and loser and many things I won't repeat. there's no human being should receive this amount of hate for simply nothing. hate on liam was trendy and fun for them. about his tragedy I think there's a lot of things we will not get to know and also the judicial system in Argentina is corrupt so we will not gonna know what the truth is, even though liam few days before his death made a drugs test for usa embassy to get the visa and it was clean. and also the toxicology test results they first made after his death they found little traces of alcohol, cocaine and anti depression which means he wasn't not sober or unconscious. and now they changed the narrative and said there was a lot of alcohol and drugs. all the lies and the change of the stories make me think it wasn't just an accident. anyway we will see. oops I made a long comment again and there's a lot of things I didn't talk about yet. 😅
@hahatoldyouso2 күн бұрын
I enjoy hearing you both talk
@WelpHereWeAreOnYouTube2 күн бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@reinacarbetta38819 сағат бұрын
The 1D boys were locked in their rooms because of the fan mania (just like The Beatles.) They were trapped, physically couldn’t go anywhere. Liam wasn’t saying he/they didn’t understand that, he was saying he/they didn’t understand they were actually “the bosses.” They’ve all talked about feeling like they had to “prove themselves” within the industry because they were “manufactured on a TV competition show.” All artists coming off of those type of shows (not just 1D) have expressed the need to prove they’re actually talented, and deserving, afterwards. You just aren’t correct in your “post 1D” success numbers. Liam’s singles did huge numbers, his streams even beat Harry. Sadly, his first album was released shortly before lockdown (as was Niall’s second album,) and without promotion, both of those albums struggled. I love LP1. Was it overproduced? Yes. But really listen to it, it’s a great R&B album. You’re letting the type of music you like, skew your perception of the reality. Liam talks about, maybe later in this interview or another, not planning on going solo after 1D. He told his Dad that the only way he’d do it was if the right song came along… and then Ed Sheeran called with ‘Strip that Down.’ As for his death, I’ve worked in news for nearly 30 years (starting in college,) and I’m telling you, Liam’s death was premeditated. I have never seen a narrative put out so quickly, that reputable news agencies reported, only to have to retract story after story. Over and over again. So, I had to do the same because I was using those agencies as my sources. None of it jives. The timelines don’t jive. The different witness accounts don’t jive. There was video, then there wasn’t. There is a long list of inconsistencies, still, and it all adds up to foul play and a coverup. As a news gal, I don’t dabble in conspiracy theories, but nothing, and I mean nothing, adds up. I have my theories, but all I will say is, follow the money. Liam deserves justice.
@WelpHereWeAreOnYouTube19 сағат бұрын
Welp
@jmcega9005Күн бұрын
The boys said in different times that they didn't know or realize how big 1d was in that time, they did when it end and see in retrospective.
@lily-Rose142 күн бұрын
I love yor reactions and miss liam:((
@bittytodsКүн бұрын
Though it may have sounded that there were somewhat "terrible" situations here and there while they were in the band, the happiness they had in their faces (not just Liam's) is the most genuine I've ever seen. I mean, there were cameras all over their faces all the time but you can tell they weren't faking it. And some would probably agree that even though they may have the "freedom" they had been longing for now that they are their own artists, the glow of happiness wasn't as bright as when they were together. T_T
@scribblygjl2 күн бұрын
it truly is so sad. the truth of the matter is that the band was manufactured. yes it was fun and a once in a lifetime opportunity etc etc. but they were forced to maintain an image and that came with a price. liam’s struggles are so tragic to me because the band was both the best and worst thing that happened to him. he was such a warm genuine soul despite all the bullshit he dealt with. i just pray he experienced peace somehow in his final moments.
@lindawalsh51415 сағат бұрын
Hi guys , thoroughly enjoyed this reaction as usual. You are two of my favorite reactors. Are you going to do the next part of the ID reaction from one of your patreons who requested the whole of their journey in the X-FACTOR anytime soon. Love from Australia.
@WelpHereWeAreOnYouTube10 сағат бұрын
Yes we are
@lindawalsh51410 сағат бұрын
@@WelpHereWeAreOnKZbin YAY xx
@goha9218Күн бұрын
i wouldve loved to see liam go down the michael buble root his voice is great such a gem
@KristinSudholzКүн бұрын
Agree- he has a crooner’s voice. There is no one from his generation to take the mantle the way Buble did from Harry Connick Jr.
@princesslexi64222 күн бұрын
I miss him so much
@KristinSudholzКүн бұрын
The hardest thing is at some point, his son will read everything that was ever said about his dad on the internet… 😢
@kathytyler75922 күн бұрын
His son will learn how much he was bullied by people. So sad.
@kathytyler75922 күн бұрын
Louis had to do it on his own. His fans were the only help he had. Liam was trying, but management held him back.
@jmcega9005Күн бұрын
I think a lot of us agree that Liam's team was crap. That's the difference with the rest of the boys.
@KristinSudholzКүн бұрын
Harry is one of the few artists who does absolutely no promo- except SNL and James Corbin. He has been that way since 1D. He has different mgmt tho that is okay with that.
@kathytyler75922 күн бұрын
The parents weren't allowed. And the boys didn't even have control over their own phones
@IDONTGIVEAF-ew6bw2 күн бұрын
When did they say that
@kathytyler75922 күн бұрын
@IDONTGIVEAF-ew6bw in several interviews
@Pluck1970Күн бұрын
Daddy Direction
@nowrdshrryКүн бұрын
Why do your numbers dip when yous talk ? Isn't that the whole point of watching here ? People !!
@WelpHereWeAreOnYouTubeКүн бұрын
It’s odd. Oh well
@Musiklife.90492 күн бұрын
Show business, it’s a dirty business. ‘Don’t put your daughter/son on the stage Mrs Worthington!’ 😢 The movement now trying to enlighten people to the pitfalls of becoming a celebrity and signing your life away to the vultures in the business are constantly being rubbished by the music moguls, go figure.
@AnneGardner-q4y2 күн бұрын
The Strictly dancing audience are plain rude, they behaved the same when Andrea Bocelli sang, and T Swift.
@W0rdsandMus1c2 күн бұрын
Strictly is all about the dancing, the audience are all encouraged to applaud the dancers, every artist who appears know that and most the artists lip-sync anyway.
@AnneGardner-q4y2 күн бұрын
@ pointless having decent singers on there then, I doubt Andrea Bocelli lip synced. LP definitely doesn’t.