Lian Li Lancool 215 Case Review: $70 Budget Airflow Benchmarks

We're taking a break from RTX coverage to review the Lian Li Lancool 215 budget airflow case, testing it vs. the be quiet! Pure Base 500DX, Cooler Master TD500, & more for thermals & noise.
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The Lancool 215 is a budget-focused airflow case that is meant to challenge the likes of the Cooler Master H500 (2x 200mm fans), Phanteks P400A, Cooler Master TD500, Silverstone Fara R1, and be quiet! Pure Base 500DX. The 215 should be priced at around $70, if MSRP is accurate, and that puts it below most of its similarly marketed airflow competition. It's not without trade-offs, though, like the reduction in ease-of-installation and other quality of life features. The 200mm fans don't quite work as well as they should, either, as a result of the chassis paneling blocking a large part of the fans.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Budget Airflow Case
05:01 - Build Quality, Assembly, & Features
16:18 - Lancool 215 CPU Thermal Benchmarks
17:52 - Lancool 215 GPU Thermal Benchmarks
19:39 - 3DMark Thermals
20:11 - Blender CPU & GPU Thermals
21:00 - Standardized Fan Benchmarks
22:24 - Noise & Noise Normalized Benchmarks
24:12 - Conclusion
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[@GamersNexus]

More case reviews on the way soon. We're working on the new Corsair ones and have seen a few requests for coverage of them, so they are in testing! Noise normalized & standardized fan methodology: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4fOcouJf8p-ga8 Article: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3621-lian-li-lancool-215-airflow-case-review

[@DanteMetaphor]

Got impatient and already ordered one (4000D airflow), hoping i have learnt enough from your previous videos to have made an informed decision. looking forward to the reviews.

[@gpunk2338]

Hey man...u guys looking for someone to help out in ur lab? Let me know! I'm even down to shadow.

[@iamnotagoat66]

On the note of cases, I sent the team an email about the case mod allowing the use of the parabolic mirror I mentioned on a previous video.

[@K3ha1]

@@DanteMetaphor i just bought the same case. I swapped from a phanteks enthoo luxe. Looks like no change in thermals even though it's significantly smaller. I have an overclocked r5 3600 and 3080. I'm happy with it

[@christophertomes6777]

I just purchased a Corsair 4000D Airflow but I still can't wait to see your review of it. I love these case reviews.

[@wynard]

"Overall this seems fine." Watch out, you were almost going overboard there with the praise.

[@dryii]

28:10 "Overall this seems fine... and that's high praise from us." Heh. Keep telling it like it is, folks. *thumbs up*

[@-NateTheGreat]

It was said with a poker face so they should be good.

[@christopherhenderson8959]

@@dryii l

[@JosePineda-jn8jk]

Can’t even get a real review these days.... well except here lol

[@stagdragon3978]

I don't know they might raise the price to 100 anyways after this

[@turinsbane4200]

I must admit that case reviews are my favorite videos that GN does because watching Steve browbeat these manufacturers into creating better and better cases is very satisfying. I also picture marketing and design teams giving each other high fives when they place at or near the top of the all-time GN leaderboards.

[@tengkualiff]

Yea me too. Its their best n most reliable content here

[@noxar8451]

Nobody does case reviews quite like GN, they usually focus on irrelevant stuff or just unboxing, design, etc. with little or none thermal testing... Thanks to GN I made the right choice and am enjoying my new PC in the Phanteks P400A case, all fan slots populated with Arctic P12 PWM. (Thanks Optimum Tech) Let me tell you, it's so damn quiet, especially now that I run SSD only, can reccommend.

[@elliott8833]

"Overall, this seems fine. Thats high praise from us." I laughed at this one. The gist of the whole video is that it does well thermally, is quiet, and is the cheapest case in its weight class. The only downsides are ease of installation and creature comforts, which were cut in lieu of keeping the price low. Id say thats a win. I just placed my preorder.

[@Lord_of_Dread]

@@noxar8451 I'm also eyeballing that case now thanks to GN. My only gripe with it is the horizontal IO. I don't know why manufacturers do this, its the dumbest oreintation to put usb slots in. If I have anything plugged into one of those ports, and the cable gets caught on something, either the port will be damaged, or the device/cable plugged into it. With a vertical design, something gets caught, cable unplugs, no big deal. Seems a case of aesthetics taking precedence over common sense.

[@DanJLaw]

Stops them from taking the piss, I like the scolding he gives otherwise, like you see already, manufacturers already are opting out with materials and trying to make cases for less money with even lesser build quality, they need to be pulled up about it and have those sales impacted.

[@HexAlinux]

I was starting to miss this content with GPUs destroying my KZbin feed. Thanks for getting this in, I'm stoked for the 1 million shirt to come in

[@victorbesson78]

Me too.

[@timberw1lly]

I've actually stopped watching any GPU-specific videos at this point. Will definitely pick up again with the Big Navi release...but I'm pretty content with my 2070 Super...

[@vladimirenev1847]

Great review guys, thanks for the exhaustive info. I bought a lancool 2 mesh a few weeks ago and I'm very happy with it. Thanks for bringing airflow back to the mainstream.

[@iwsfg]

Thank you for not having any mid-roll ads youtube puts nowadays on every upload 💙

[@MrMW2nd]

There was a farmer who water cooled E K A I O

[@MrJohnLongbow]

Hahahaha, good one, now it’s stuck in my head 😜👍 “Old McDonald watercooled his farm, EK AIO”

[@bytezero3818]

@Miss Jae Don't insult people

[@ajl1430]

Lfmao nice

[@andydbedford]

Thats so coo, great job 👍

[@tomcanty8856]

@@bytezero3818 no they are right, the first was good jest, the second was mimicry cringe and should be shamed for it.

[@KuroKitten]

"Production of this case was delayed - for reasons that... Surely nobody is aware of" XD

[@TECHN01200]

🤔

[@DurzoBlunts]

*Corona-Chan has entered the chat*

[@lexarflash5150]

Maybe a shortage of metals or aluminium materials ?

[@SUSHI4lyf]

@@DurzoBlunts Mixing Chinese with Japanese, I see.

[@DurzoBlunts]

@@lexarflash5150 technically latin and japanese

[@scottyhaines4226]

Part of me wishes you would get some sort of blank case and then mod it to what you would want a case to have so we know what to look for in cases for airflow and functionality.

[@willchapman4616]

Or, eventually, a GamersNexus designed and branded case...

[@scottyhaines4226]

@@willchapman4616 that would be nice too but thats expensive so I'll take a heavily modded one

[@Aleph-Noll]

Maybe the reason that hasnt happened yet is bc they're scared they cant make a better case

[@VaultNightmare]

@@willchapman4616 That looks like a cat.

[@BurntFaceMan]

Just get a cardboard box/some bits of wood, re-inforce the sides and stick the motherboard on, then cut out the areas you want airflow. A "case" is litterally whatever you want to be a case. you can litterally stick a computer in anything, you are limited only by your imagination.

[@mf_from_hell]

Thanks for the review! I bought this case for a new build and I must say I like it. Cable management was quite easy, I found and the velcro straps work very well indeed. I can confirm, however, that they have not improved the front cover. I thought it was going to break off the first time I tried to remove it.

[@krisreddish3066]

I have reached a point where airflow is easy, as long as they continue updating cheap cases with mesh fronts and properly vented fronts, instead of a steel panel with 2 inches of airflow on top and bottom. It is refreshing to see them come back from the train wreck that was 2018 era cases. Also, refreshing to see a Lian Li budget case, mostly they had products with some eccentric aesthetic flair, but all sketch with something wrong with the functionality at a high price. This is an improvement IMO.

[@dabiggestleech]

Be aware, this case and many other's that were reviewed and considered good, lowest cost, it's no longer lowest cost, it's around $100 to $130 now.

[@William-Morey-Baker]

everything is more expensive now... but this case can be found for 89$. none the less, you are still correct.

[@brananandreu4086]

@@William-Morey-Baker where did you find that, all i see is $100 or higher

[@multidinero]

@@brananandreu4086 Newegg has it as high as $167! That’s as of April 11, 2022.

[@Chyllbacca]

Yup 145 on Amazon right now

[@zifzone]

Got it for 50 on special yesterday.

[@fallis07]

HEY Steve! Great work you're doing keep it up.

[@gargonovich]

"Exhaustive suite" I see what you did there.

[@timberw1lly]

I know not everyone likes these, but I really appreciate case reviews with this level of detail. I built my rig in the CoolerMaster H500 (Blank) and love it, but it's your review of the CoolerMaster TD500 which made me pick it when we built my wife's new PC last month. Thanks for putting out this kind of content.

[@XDSDDLord]

I think the compromises Lian Li made on this case are perfectly acceptable. It seems like they hit their goal. Clearly there were a few small design changes that could have possibly been made, but it does beg the question for what the real cost of making them would be. They set out to do something, and your extensive (and awesome) testing shows that they did it. Your reviews are brutally honest, but I think Lian Li can read between the lines :P

[@barrysauce]

Any front panel you can walk away from taking off with OUT drawing blood and not realizing it for a few minutes is good for me bro.

[@Jamie-rx4yc]

I'm a huge fan of those 200mm fans

[@TheRobJarvis]

Thos ethings are massive lol. I think it looks great tbh. I am a huge fan of those huge fans too.

[@ayu12641]

I would like to see you cutting the sheet covering the back of the 200mm fans and see if there is a thermal difference.

[@trickycoolj]

Glad LianLi addressed the fact that you can’t get a 280 rad in the top of the Lancool Mesh II. It has mounts for 2x140 but was just a hair too narrow for the full rad which was a complete bummer as a front push/pull didn’t give enough clearance for tubes down unless I manage to get a hold of a shortie graphics card to flip it around. Otherwise it was nice to build in a modern case upgrading from my very old Antec P180mini.

[@urdad1984]

"At least the fronts not teathered to the case by cables..." *cries in Meshify C n broken I/O cables

[@JLMtime]

I also hate that & ive actually had to remove some of fronts over years because problems it can cause, anywhere that air moves past all the time seems to get brittle & damages cables over time

[@Cal94]

That's a thing? The front panel pops right off on my Focus G, so fractal knew how not to do that...

[@JLMtime]

@@Cal94 cables connected to front panel basically tethering it constant air flow will cause the cables to get brittle I have 3 broken front panels with no usb now

[@Cal94]

@@JLMtime what i meant, is on the Fractal Design Focus G, the front panel buttons/IO screwed straight into the case as a separate trim from the front panel, so you can pull the front panel without that whole yanking on wires issue. And the Focus G series is a lower price tier product than the Meshify line. so it's surprising they wouldn't apply the same principals to a case at a higher price point (and i'm pretty sure, a newer product... i think the meshify C is at least a few years younger than the focus G)

[@MadClowdz]

Hated that and the need to remove PSU shroud cover plate to install 3 front fans, thus leaving a GAPING HOLE exposing ALL CABLES underneath...ultimately led to ditching the Mesh (i.e. it's the fam case now) and going with the O11 Dynamic XL. Love that case.

[@SolidGreenDay]

I knew you guys would review this eventually, it deserves the recognition. Im going to be building any future pc with either the 215 or the 4000D airflow but I will wait for benchmarks of the 4000D airflow first. Good stuff as always Steve :)

[@houstoner]

I bought this case a few weeks ago, and I am really impressed. Yes there are some cons, but it really isn't a bad option for the price. Best selling point is the airflow. I'm not running a wild, powerful setup in mine, but it stays cooler than I expected, even under heavy load. If I end up keeping it when I upgrade (which is highly likely) I will be replacing the 200mm fans with smaller ones. The huge mesh front is awesome though. Team air-cooling here. I have trust issues with a liquid setup lol. The only modification I've had to do so far was removing the front fan sticker as they drove me nuts being slightly off. But it doesn't look bad at all without the stickers, actually gave it a cleaner, more aggressive look.

[@Haugalandet]

Are the front mesh keeping the dust from coming in?

[@houstoner]

@@Haugalandet it does a descent job. Fine particles will get in of course, but I dust my PC and clean the glass every couple weeks and it's very minimal. I have a cat so naturally cat hair floats around but the mesh catches it and I just wipe it off with a damp cloth. Seen it's been 3 months since I made review and I will say I am still very satisfied with this case.

[@Haugalandet]

@@houstoner Hi. Thanks for the replay.

[@prathameshbadle6518]

Can micro atx motherboard fit in this case?

[@makanidemoulin7591]

I am glad GN does case reviews, they are my #1 source for comprehensive reviews when building a pc.

[@JosiahBradley]

Hey Steve, dare you to break out the tin snips and remove that backing steel. Or Dremel whatever.

[@mcpappyracing1326]

I was thinking the same thing

[@chantmedia-xs5vr]

Yep I’d love to see that

[@neurokinetik64ES]

The front fan issue is the exact same thing you have on the Coolermaster H500. On that case, I fixed it by cutting out the metal behind the fans to leave them completely unobstructed.

[@Boba19423O]

You mean where it cuts off a third of the surface area? How does that work? Aren’t the screws in that metal?

[@neurokinetik64ES]

@@Boba19423O I left the material at the corners where the fans are screwed into, but cut out any metal that blocked the fans themselves. You do lose the ability to mount a radiator or smaller fans in the front, but that's not something I wanted to do with this case anyway.

[@Boba19423O]

What did you use to cut it out? Also how did it affect your temps? Thanks so much for helping me out

[@neurokinetik64ES]

@@Boba19423O I used a portable jig saw. I don't know what effect it had on temps because I modded the case before I used it for the first time. I just didn't like what I saw, and knew that removing that material could only improve the performance. I run a Noctua NH-D15S on an AMD 3950x CPU, and a 2080Ti GPU. CPU never gets above 73C, and GPU never gets above 65C, but I always run all my case fans (I am only using the front 200mm, and nothing else) and CPU fan (only one would fit due to RAM clearance issues on the second one) at 100%. GPU has dual BIOS and it's set to the performance fan mode, but I rarely even hear the fans ramp up on it.

[@LaurenceGough]

Ha, I did the same thing - but this case looks even worse than the H500. With the H500 if you cut the rad supports out you have 0 obstruction at all. If you do that to this case it looks like you won't be left with any frame! Did you do any other mods to your CM H500? I'm thinking about relocating the rear fan and also riveting in some hexagon mesh sheet.

[@cminkjr6261]

Thanks for the review. Have been waiting for more case reviews to come out. I think the Lancool II Mesh is still on my mind. I'm waiting for the Corsair 4000x airflow now.

[@cminkjr6261]

@Tian Yes. I would like a case with 280 radiator support. I have seen in a forum someone fit a 280 in the Lancool II mesh with LPX memory. The 4000x shows 280 support as well with LPX memory.

[@ghost_of_m403]

Thanks for your review. I am really looking forward to this case as a budget builder. I appreciate the testing to show where not to try to use AIOs, as well as the other planning issues.

[@jra5624]

How to stay off GN’s radar: Do not include “airflow” in name.

[@2BitSlow]

Just gotta wait for a modder to take a Dremel to the metal behind those 200mm fans for an unobstructed airflow

[@TurtleAsshole]

I did this with the cooler master h500

[@ogsmokey187]

I would totally do this! I've pre-ordering 2 of these. I may post a video on the final result 😉

[@tastethesoup]

I’m contemplating it

[@FinaISpartan]

Been waiting for this review for months, and you finally post it... at 2am... No sleep for me I guess :P In all seriousness, great review as usual.

[@kausikdas256]

Waited for your review of this case since August, ugghhhhh. Thank you Steve❤️

[@heavymetalmixer91]

The case is still not available anywhere though LOL

[@kausikdas256]

@@heavymetalmixer91 it was available in my country around a week ago.

[@kausikdas256]

But it's very overpriced like it's around 105 dollars

[@lorenzosanchez2006]

What is the difference between Lancool 215 and Lancool 215X?

[@Aggnog]

I'm having a hard time understanding case price brackets. With GPUs or CPUs the gaps are easily between 100-200$ so it makes a lot of sense, but when going up 30$ is getting you a better case, which in most cases can outlast all the other hardware you use, then surely the cost of 1 or 2 happy meals is not a huge stretch.

[@mostlypeacefulrowan8747]

Yep. But I find the cheapest cases are just fine for an air cooled mATX build. I.e. a normal peasant gamer. I've got a cheap Silverstone inverted case and I've never seen better thermals on a GPU. No one has reviewed my case but I'm sure it beats more expensive cases on account it is inverted. I think the model number is rl08 if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for reading.

[@Mystikus2]

The price brackets mainly come from feature prices. Many people just dont need a case with special features and for them there is no reason at all to spend even a dollar more, since it doesnt come with an advantage

[@mostlypeacefulrowan8747]

@@Mystikus2 yea I reckon the more expensive cases are for water cooling and people with lots of drives. You cant go wrong in 2020 with a basic mesh case

[@2nd_Directorate]

In my opinion case selection is one of the really longlasting things so it´s fine to spend more on it, especially like you said it is not the huge difference in price. I am using a Coolermaster HAF X for 10 years now. And to be honest, i struggle to find a better case, as i need the HDD space and use airflow cooling. The Enthoo Pro II is on my radar now, but that took some time to come around and it is still not sure decision.

[@Veserius]

@@mostlypeacefulrowan8747 mATX gets basically no reviews, but is probably the best form factor for the vast majority of people. The RL08 was something i was looking at personally and it was hard to even get one for a reasonable price, but it should probably cool better than the vast majority of cases, and it looks pretty spiffy too.

[@craiglongstaff]

I spent a an hour or so with a Dremel, a sheet of mesh and some double sided 3M tape on a cheap case and got the airflow i wanted at the price point i was happy with. Money saved went towards some high end case fans and tower cooler.

[@ovidiurosu6632]

Great job. I like that we have access to a written article to review the graphs. Thank you

[@kitsune2858]

I rly like this case, and pre ordered my 215, I still Love you Steve, and thank you for your time :) I will now go order um... something from your store =D

[@seanmoist1217]

Would this case fit a 3070 or 2080 ti?

[@kitsune2858]

@@seanmoist1217 Im going to say YES, Being it its a newer case, but PLZ check your dimensions once your motherboard is fitted in your case, sometimes they require 'mods'

[@seanmoist1217]

@@kitsune2858 thanks

[@valerivalev5962]

@@seanmoist1217 the biggest card atm 3080 is 318mm lenght, this lian li 215 has gpu space 380mm so yes is will fit both 3070 and 2080 ti

[@blattlaus7382]

Hey how load are the included 200mm fans? Are they decent?

[@sebimaurer]

Didn't you also test the Galahad AIO? I'm actually waiting for your review to be uploaded before i buy it together with the rest of my new rig. Can you maybe just give me a hint if it's safe to buy (without any details)? 😅 Love your content!!!

[@kArnAgePT]

Thanks for the video! Please do Micro-ATX case benchmarks! Waiting on the Silverstone RL-08 review :)

[@marinated5425]

Good to hear you mention the Silverstone RL06! I bought that case after your reviews and I just came to see how newer cases are stacking up against it.

[@gvnady8380]

Its been a while Steve reviewing case, Im still waiting for the O11D Mini.

[@askopte]

Just out of curiosity, will you guys review the new Corsair 4000D series, espcially the airflow one? That seems like a direct competitor to this. Also, will the Noctua 200mm fans fit in this case? Thanks! Edit: Didn't check the pinned comment, sorry

[@iloveanime6441]

Read the pin comment he said he will review it

[@jjoke5014]

fresh lemon water If I’m not incorrect, one of the reasons 200mm is almost dead is because a standard was never agreed on.

[@madman6648]

@fresh lemon water sadly only up to 140mm is standardized :(

[@MrPruske]

@fresh lemon water many places can but some do not accept returns or costs as much as another fan. Plus you would be stuck with two

[@kevinfoster4862]

If one really wanted to swap in Noctua 200mm's, they would likely be prepared to drill new screw holes, and cut out the front panel behind each.

[@MrDrago1954]

As I have done with many cases and as you have pointed out there is considerable blockage with the airflow up front. I simply break out my Dremel with a cutting wheel and get to work. Almost all of those blockages can be removed without jeopardizing the the strength integrity of the case(too much). The fans themselves can lend some strength in that regard. That would be my first piece of work before even putting any electronics in this case. For now its still the Meshify S2 for me with room on the top for my 45mm x 420mm Alpha Cool Radiator and Noc Radiator fans.

[@FOREVERCRASH]

Hi from Puerto Rico!! Always love your videos!!

[@GamersNexus]

Hi! Awesome to see viewers from all over. Thanks for watching!

[@Charlie-qe9qj]

"Overall this seems fine, which is high praise from us." It really, really is.

[@Red_Scorpian]

TAKE A SHOT EVERY TIME HE SAYS "PURELY AESTHETIC"

[@TheKazragore]

I'd prefer to stay out of the hospital ;)

[@criznittle968]

"He" has a name - it's Gamers

[@poppyrider5541]

I've got a hangover. I think this is a good idea.

[@DharcFamiliar]

Oh man.. I've been waiting for this review! Thank you so much for your hard work

[@gorgibuteliii]

I have lianli lancool metal boned k7 since 2009, still fairly quiet today, it's been rarely turned off and none of the stock coolers are broken, the aluminium finish they do is nice

[@EXPERIMENTONGOD]

"This seems fine. So, that's high praise from us!" => very true! LOL

[@MyStillRemains]

I’m so confused...if this case is outperforming $130 cases like the p500a for half the price, why isn’t this being more whole heartedly recommended? What am I missing?

[@Gamer2Key]

i wonder the same

[@3dpixel583]

According to him, the chassis blocked the fans... lol. what an idiot

[@dinominate69]

Gotta love GN showing how much they like the case but trying not to look and sound biased as possible. I really enjoy theircasw reviews!!

[@bj4690]

Was just looking at preordering this yesterday. Cheers for the review mate!

[@norche]

I click like when I see case review and gamer nexus

[@Brunnen_Gee]

Man, when $70 is "ultra budget" for a case. I remember when that was pretty expensive for one. Funnily enough I had some of those "expensive" cases back then and they were Lian Li. If I was in the market for a new case I'd probably put this one at the top of my list.

[@Optim121]

yeah haha, I bought my full tower for $100 10 years ago lmao, and that was considered super expensive. seems thats the standard now.

[@mob19001]

Im happy Lian Li LANCOOL II Mesh is still up there with the best thanks to your vid, GN. Amazing case!

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

I have heard some good things about this case. I was wondering how it would be against my Lancool II Mesh Performance!! Thanks Steve and the GN team for the GREAT video! I love this type of hard numbers review.

[@El_Chompo]

Wow that looks like amazing airflow for $70! It's hard to even get a case that isn't ugly for 70 let alone with good airflow.

[@SyncF]

sirgallium I agree 100%. Most airflow cases lack a decent design, this is overall a nice decent case.

[@Davilas941]

It was $70?? I got it for $99 at microcenter...

[@XxThePlaylistxX]

I bought the LanCool II Mesh because of your review, it fits perfect with what I wanted to do. Hoping to get the final components for my PC by late Nov

[@AnabolicRick915]

I’m building a compact form factor PC soon and would love it if you guys reviews the LIAN LI TI150!!! Your in depth reviews will help me better decide if that’s the right case for my build.

[@pauljanssen6627]

Is there any interest in a review of the Deepcool CL500 case? It looks interesting to me and it'd be interesting to see it subjected to the test procedure the GN team rock.

[@Handelo]

16:05 looks like the lower front fan's texture is animated at a lower framerate than everything else.

[@MrThirumalar]

I got this case in October 2020, the front panel removal is still a pain in the ass. Thermals are decent, around 50°c core CPU temperature, using a Ryzen 3 3300X & MSI B550M Pro-VDH Wifi Mobo with a 1660 Super. I'm using a stock CPU cooler and no additional case fans, so totally in stock settings. Probably would upgrade the CPU cooler after a few months if needed... fitting in the 750W Antec HCG PSU and plugging the cables was a bit difficult, but managed after a few tries to have a neat cable management. I'm happy with it, so that's good for me. 😊

[@joshtm66]

i was planning on buying this case for my first ever build but im glad i didnt rish it too much because the 2 usb ports on this case simply wont be enough. thanks for the great video even if i didnt quite understand most of the specifics

[@mesaber86]

I would cut away the metal on the sides of the 200mm fans. Can you please do this and see if it helps cooling, which it should. Yes it might sound silly but if you have 2x 200mm fans why would you ever put 120/140mm fans. Silly design!

[@Zentennen]

If you're building a mid-range pc and saving $20 on a case and maybe $20 somewhere else would mean you could upgrade from a 3300x to a 3600 or a 1660 Super to a 2060, the performance upgrade there is well worth the few downsides of this case compared to its more expensive competition. Overall this seems like a really strong contender, I'm just worried about the mesh letting in too much dust.

[@MrAltairantares]

Only site I know where a 3 star "it's fine" is a ringing endorsement that topped charts haha. Really do appreciate the sites focus on firm numbers, real performance rather than a particular story or emotion you want your video to be about. It's why this is the first place I always go, then check out other stuff if I feel like it.

[@MultiNastyNate]

Aw man, I was so pumped for the "maximum cooling configuration" from their product page. Back to the case hunt grind.

[@Herbie_Cucumber]

I assume there's nothing really stopping someone from cutting out some of the metal obstructing the fans?

[@guilhermebressan5689]

Can you do A - B testing with the case modified to allow the fan to push air through it's entirety? Sorry for bad englando. What I mean is cutting the front, where the fans are mounted, in a circular way, making it effectively 200 mm.

[@Jason-gy2ux]

I got this case in white as an open box for under 70$ and I really love it, I found it easy to build in, it's whisper quiet even when playing games and looks great, Steve is right in that the cutouts under the motherboard can make it a bit tight to get the connectors in but isn't a deal breaker at all since once they're in they're not going to be removed. I wish it had a few more front USB ports than just the two on top.

[@TheSmileyTek]

Those are some jumbo fans! Bet I can add wings and fly that thing! 🤣 I'm a huge fan of Lian Li's cases. Although it's a couple years old now, I'm still enjoying my Lancool II. One of my few practical purchases for my build.

[@mohrasher]

That huge logo at the front is off putting

[@seanmoist1217]

Paint or tape would take care of that

[@Gamer2Key]

Worst design choice ever seen ahahaha

[@natesenft5376]

@@Gamer2Key I don’t even mind it, it’s just branding and is at least rgb

[@iamnotagoat66]

Very interesting. I really like Lian Li as a company just for their innovation and their ability to take consumer/reviewer criticism and correcting their mistakes in the next generation. Would like to see them expand their product stack into more spaces like rgb light bars maybe. More accessories. I like the daisy chainable fans and AIOs they have available now. Maybe they could make their next AIO have some sort of bearing that rotates the tube input on the pump downward via gravity so that you physically can't mount it tubes up 😉

[@ctsd623]

When I saw Fast and Furious 1, I underestimated the effect it would have on future generations instilling their preference for RGB "Fast 'N FURIOUS" PC lighting.

[@somebrains5431]

This case can accommodate tall air coolers the p400a cannot, up to 166mm, which is nice in a $70 case that’s got airflow in the marketing material.

[@jamesho6636]

I wish case manufacturers would still sell medium/high-end cases with 5.25" drive bays. It's so rare to find a good one these days. I imported my Cooler Master CM694 case from Taiwan just so that I would have a case with 5.25" drive bays. The shipping costed more than the case! ☹

[@constanza86]

www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-7/black/

[@MikehMike01]

there’s probably less than 100 people that want a 5.25” bay in a new case

[@jamesho6636]

@@MikehMike01 I guess I'm a bit old fashioned in that I STILL want to be able to play my DVDs/Blu-Ray discs on my computer. I would venture to say there's at least a few hundred people like me around. 😁

[@WetaMantis]

We got some in Europe now but no English reviews though.

[@WetaMantis]

@@MikehMike01 I do. Love swapping internal backup HDD in toolless bay.

[@eljouser]

Positive review by gamer's nexus typically means a price increase :(

[@hampuslindman8248]

I´m waiting for your review of the Corsair 4000D Airflow, will there be a review of it out soon?

[@chestycoughsyrup2566]

Your case reviews honestly are amazing. Unfortunately I got a case last year with the more closed off front panel RGB aesthetic nonsense and have been watching these mesh airflow reviews with massive jealousy. I'm getting high thermals and case noise and definitely wanting to change soon, right now for me it's the P400A but holding fire until black friday!

[@quirinaled2752]

Similar here with a Pure Base 500 but my place is extremely dusty so not sure whether airflow without serious filters (which would essentially negate the benefits of an airflow case from what I've read) is really an option. I think I need to just stop minoring temps quite as much - I'm not getting very high temps and it's probably good enough for my needs. Still, this looks really tempting 😂.

[@AdnanCucak]

Been waiting for this, great work guys!

[@Alistair.Althea]

I'm sad this is no longer as cheap as it was. Now its about 110 dollars >.< Also, Compared to the LANCOOL 205 MESH RGB - TYPE C - ATX - Black. Which of these cases would be better?

[@kimberblake4215]

Paid $89 I believe today at Micro Center in GA.

[@Alistair.Althea]

@@kimberblake4215 O.O even looking on their website I would have to pay 130 for it including shipping. I wish I had a microcenter near me, dang

[@MrAuilos]

@@kimberblake4215 Same haha, just got mine yesterday for that price at MC! Definitely true about the PSU/wiring clearance as stated in the vid.

[@a.pigeon]

@@kimberblake4215 Got mine at a Memory Express (basically Canadian Micro Center) for about 130 CAD, which is around $95 US

[@HarryUnchained]

I just bought my Lancool II Mesh Performance like $85 over here.

[@magnusnilsson9792]

What a bummer the 200mm are choked off, also a single 120mm fan in the back is also a bit of a dissapointment.

[@NuclearArbitor]

One could probably cut away a bunch of the unwanted metal but I'm a bit surprised they didn't do that in the factory. I guess it was either too expensive or they're worried about strength.

[@andersjjensen]

@@NuclearArbitor The fans overhang the motherboard tray, so cutting to that side will only help you get more air for your cable mess :P You could take a cutter to the other side, and I suspect that because the fans spin slow that it won't matter too much that you have better flow on one side than the other. This can, however, make a lot of noise on 80mm fans when they are going at full kahoot.

[@andersjjensen]

Yeah, but then again. It did fine and is dirt cheap. The only ones who're going to buy it is people who like the look of two 240mm rainbow puke fans anyway.

[@NuclearArbitor]

@@andersjjensen personally, I like the 20cm fans but I also have a HAF-X in blue. Rainbow I'm not such a fan of. Getting air down the back of the mb might help some with thermals; someone has probably tested it. Would have to get past the cable though.

[@jesh879]

Omg finally a case review! I'm so happy!

[@bloodyzbub6213]

Great video Steve...keep "em coming brother, and I'll keep watching.

[@philippbeckonert1678]

: Ah, my perfect sunday-morning-breakfast-entertainment :D

[@noahfense]

This is probably the earliest* I'll ever get to a video (21 seconds). I've peaked haha

[@bldos5362]

I'm 14 minutes late! damn you win!

[@blockbertus]

22 mins here

[@amasterdaone2316]

bl dos I’m 14 mins late to your comment lol

[@rydeen450]

@@blockbertus same

[@abdulazimpatel8467]

31 minutes late

[@theravenvlogz7345]

this video literally answered my dilemma if arctic 280mm will fit on top as its rad is usually thicker than others, thank You!

[@justjordoo]

Does the 240 fit ?

[@Ruboka]

So many interesting Lian Li cases. The Lian Li Lancool 205m seems to be a good, cheap case. Would love to se a review of this case too. Keep up the good work

[@creamofbotulismsoup9900]

Man, Lian Li has really gotten cheap over the years, I remember a time where their cheapest case was $200. Sure they basically sold fancy aluminum boxes with little air flow, but they were nice for the time, I guess.

[@CUSTARDP00DLETK]

H500: Hey you copied me! Lian Li 215: No. I am you, but better.

[@pradyunsg]

Which H500?

[@arhamelahi9492]

@@pradyunsg cooler master

[@arhamelahi9492]

@Miss Jae yeah I don't mind them copying each other but the loan li lancool ii mesh is still the best case imo

[@johnhighway9397]

How is it better than the H500 when the H500 has better thermals?

[@arhamelahi9492]

@@johnhighway9397 the H500 stock is more expensive and has equal thermals also that case is pretty outdated and is rarely in stock for msrp

[@jessicadardenne6164]

I have this case since about 3 month and I'm really happy with it. But the 2x 120 fan at the bottom rised the temp on my gpu by about 3-4 degrees under load on an asus gtx 1070 dual. I think they are just recirculating the hot air from the gpu back to it. I removed them and the temp got better. I kept the 2x 200mm intake + 2x140 at the top 1 x 120 at the back. Thanks for the review guys :)

[@Immortalitation1]

you have 4 intake and 1 exhaust?

[@gregcy89]

Best case ever! Sick Airflow. I bought 2 of these(for myself and wife's brother). Here in Russia it costs 100usd now. Those 2 x 200mm front fans are amazing. I installed 2 x 140mm up and 1 120mm down. So 2 front fans are intake and ALL rest are exhaust. Only minus is there is no front dust filter. But with that on , there would be no airflow... Also how the heck they compare it to Be Quiet PureBase 500DX ? It comes with only 1 exhaust fan and claim to have airflow and silence? WTH ??

[@doggotechsupport2840]

Can we turn off rgb?

[@gregcy89]

@@doggotechsupport2840 yes in the settings of your motherboard software or just disconnect rgb cables

[@doggotechsupport2840]

@@gregcy89 ok thank you 😊

[@radicalxedward8047]

It’s cool that companies like Lian-Li are incorporating feedback from places like GN, but on the flip side it concerns me that places like GN are generally anti-RGB.

[@InclinaProduction]

When you grow a bit it starts to get annoying having all those rgbs

[@arijitsinha6202]

Finally! Also what's Snowflakes verdict, that what I want to know?

[@El_Chompo]

If mounting the extra cooling fan on top of the power supply is "flush therefore making it useless" you could easily just use some spacers to make it work. And then make some ducting to seal it back to the perforated PSU housing surface so it's only pulling fresh air. Just because a case isn't perfect doesn't mean it just doesn't work and you give up. There are very simple modding solutions to all of these problems you talk about, not major mods at all very simple things anybody could do. Which is how gaming PCs used to be made before gaming specific cases were ever produced.

[@alt5494]

To Lian Li this would be a amazing case if it was widened to enable 200mm fans in the top and bottom slots, and to eliminate the blockage for the front fans. It would be ideal if the chassis was long enough for double 200mm radiators in the top.

[@noyb154]

"200 mm fans are purely aesthetic"? Aren't the quieter or at least more pleasant sounding than small whining fans?

[@purplegill10]

They meant compared to the cutouts in the front panel which were made for smaller fans so they don't allow the full 200mm space for airflow

[@chantmedia-xs5vr]

They are definitely not just aesthetic. He kind of overstated the point that they are not performing as well as they could because of being partially blocked.

[@nathaniels.9897]

​@@chantmedia-xs5vr They are aesthetic in the sense that 140mm fans would have better cooling performance. However, they seem to work well, especially considering the price of the case.

[@chantmedia-xs5vr]

@@nathaniels.9897 Yep. But not 'Purely'.

[@masterkane5340]

I have this case, keep my case fans at 100%, on stock AMD R5 5600x w/Stock cooler and a 6800xt both overclocked, and undervolted, but Ive literally NEVER heard fan noise from this case in any respect, and even CPU and GPU fans set so at 40 degrees, are ramped to 100% from there to thermal limits, its still dead silent from a cpl feet away. My gaming desktop makes my Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 sound like a fucking turbo jet in comparison, even jus playing a KZbin vid. Its actually Insane to me just how Much Quieter my Desktop is inside this case VS my tiny little 14" gaming laptop, even on a 5 fan cooler pad, in silent mode in AC. I was pleasantly surprised by this case, which I DID buy purely on aesthetics, its a good lookin case in white, arguably one of the best looking cases out there IMHO, obv.

[@criznittle968]

3:54 - my eyes, what sorcery is causing this optical fuckery

[@glxblrt]

Small difference in rpm

[@sirpersonguy1968]

@@glxblrt and the capture rate of the camera

[@kristiansims]

Maybe a capture rate that isn’t an integer multiple of the exported rate? Not sure. It’s really weird.

[@SwolePapi15]

I have a lancool II mesh, so I have no reason to be watching this. Yet here I am, just a testament to how interesting and imformative these videos are

[@BaconDanish]

Just bought 3 Phanteks P400A RGB cases and the go to store here had quite a few in stock. 😁