Liar, Liar Network On Fire: The Legal Case Against Fox News | The Problem With Jon Stewart Podcast

Thanks to the Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News filing, we now know what we’ve always believed is true: Fox News will do or say anything to retain their power, even if it means lying - over and over and over again - to their viewers. The question is, will they ever be held accountable? We’re joined this week by RonNell Anderson Jones, Professor of Law at the University of Utah, for a lively discussion about defamation law and the possibility that Fox News might actually have to face the music.
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[@marebos3616]

Jon, I've left the Republican Party. You, Robert Reich, and Bill Maher really caught my attention. When you finally turn off Fox News, especially after being caught lying, I CLEARLY see I've been voting against the best interest of all. Thank you ❤

[@ragauerk9310]

That took courage, and maybe some pain. Respect.

[@bobpurcell7175]

Thank you (one down, millions and millions to go...)

[@kymskiver8862]

glad you dropped that addiction. Its as harmful and addicting as heroine from what I've seen with the one person I know who watches it.

[@2porangi]

I’m glad that you have landed back on planet earth, I’m praying that some within my family will also come back down to earth one day.

[@2porangi]

Murdoch called Trump a f**ken idiot but went on to help make him become the most powerful man on the planet!

[@katherinemorgan1453]

Please bring her back. She's brilliant. Great teamwork. 👍❤

[@totorosghost]

Totally. More truth and less unfair and unbalanced takes from Jon. Some say she is pretty too I agree.

[@ttacking_you]

​@@totorosghost yeah,I'd chuck her some dizzle.

[@ttacking_you]

Call me a hopeless romantic 😏

[@bernie4268]

@@totorosghost evo

[@billnutt9667]

She reminds me of Diane Keaton.

[@dancahill9585]

I hope Dominion and Smartmatic make enough money in this case that it calls Fox News viability as a business into question.

[@twotrackjack2260]

They're gonna need a lot more catheter commercials 😂

[@dancahill9585]

@@twotrackjack2260 The Catheter company at least understands the Fox News demographic.

[@crystalwolfe4489]

American cable companies pay Fox , $2 - $5 from each cable customer , to carry their channel / program .In my area of Ohio Spectrum and AT&T both pay Fox .

[@dancahill9585]

@@crystalwolfe4489 Probably one of the reasons most of the people who still have cable are retirees and massive sports addicts. Why pay for a bunch of crappy channels you never watch. Cutting Cable is a pretty easy decision unless you are just addicted to sports.

[@jenbenton6884]

Who is ray epps?

[@Jay-ft3xh]

NERD?!? You are a genuine public servant in these times of insanity and ignorance. Thank you for helping Ronnell.

[@cbpd89]

It's very obvious that she isn't just an attorney, but also an educator. She's very good at explaining these things to lay people like myself!

[@christiner2472]

Great point! For me as well.

[@totorosghost]

Agree. I'm really glad she pushed back on Jon and got him to say that he is not news and is not fair nor balanced. I watch both Fox and Jon so I'm a little surprised his comments about black people and fox. Also I wish he would say more about the problems with other corpo media with equal passion.

[@danielhoward8354]

And John lol

[@denniscardinal1227]

Huh?

[@karengossett1475]

@@totorosghost 😳 So you watch Fox for the entertainment? Surely not for the truth 🤷‍♀️

[@reverendblind]

Regardless of platform, format or topic, I don't think I'll ever get tired of watching Jon's interviews and analysis. Excellent stuff as always.

[@maryhalverson5713]

Jon's ability to hold an audience will continue to disintegrate unless he makes an effort to catch up to the independent journalists whose finely tuned instincts, hard work, & ethics have left him covered in dust.

[@totorosghost]

@@maryhalverson5713 Good point. Who do you like? Jimmy Dore's channel is on fire lately. He even goes on Fox now and again. Glenn Greenwald does some good reporting. I look at the hill and Kim iverson sometimes.

[@maryhalverson5713]

@@totorosghost For many reasons, the Hill's no longer relevant. That's part of why someone with Iversen's high standards left. Dore's leading the pack because he provides brutally honest, brave, & timely reports with enough humor to make the news palatable, as well as consistently reliable, mainly because he surrounds himself with the most talented, unmuzzled, & ethically dedicated rogue journalists on the scene today.

[@totorosghost]

@@maryhalverson5713 Any specific journalists you recommend?

[@maryhalverson5713]

@@totorosghost So many good ones: Glenn Greenwald, Chris Hedges, Max Blumenthal, Aaron Mate, Whitney Webb, Kim Iversen, Matt Taibbi, Briahna Joy Gray, Lee Camp, Abby Martin..........

[@Mrgoofyoops]

She is exceptionally articulate. Wonderful to listen to someone clearly elucidate specific aspects of the matter and tie the specifics together into a cohesive statement.

[@gdiwolverinemale2745]

She is a lawyer. She might not be telling the truth, and given the purpose of this podcast, most likely she is doing this only for the entertainment of the stupid .. and Jon to make money out of it.

[@totorosghost]

@@gdiwolverinemale2745Possibly. She does make an excellent point about Jon not being a regular person like her and not a journalist. His response around 29min is worth watching again. I get the feeling he was also using her to get some legal advice esp when he asked if Fox dropped ''news'' could they get away with more loose commentary like he does. He said it himself. He is not news and does not pretend to be fair and balanced. Given the responses here I think his devoted fans think otherwise.

[@Daniel-yo5es]

@@gdiwolverinemale2745 but... fox is telling the truth? gotcha

[@totorosghost]

@@Daniel-yo5es Fox tells the truth sometimes. Just like Jon.

[@robertrainey2258]

Great conversation as usual. Thx for your commitment to truth and to the freedoms of ALL Americans.

[@artzxpress]

Just as the cigarette industry was forced to do ads about the dangers of smoking, could Fox be forced through the lawsuit to advertise on their network the lawsuit results and remove "News" from the title?

[@jbbenet6990]

The tobacco industry what do a lot of legal hurdles to end up having to comply with" the master settlement" which do regulation forced stop using ads and promotions that would directly Target children. Starting from the news reports and that time about how Joe Camel was cooler and more known by children than Mickey Mouse. There are all kinds of rules in that settlement that the tobacco industry's have to follow here in the United States, all the way down to local County municipalities when it comes to branding, placement, promoting accessibility and taxing. Tobacco industry sense has still lobbying billions of dollars to smaller municipalities to be able to leverage the ability to sell their Wares. Anyways if you look through the master settlement there's all kinds of guidelines of tobacco industry's have to meet. And over the past couple of decades they have done their best to work around them legally. As capitalist do

[@Damon_NZ]

"Fox Opinion" 😀

[@totorosghost]

He asked about removing ''news'' directly. I'm not sure but it felt like he was looking for legal info for himself. He does claim he is NOT NEWS and that he is not fair and balanced, yet he does comment on news. As the lawyer points out he is not just a regular individual. He ''makes his living speaking and commenting on public matters of concern for a living''. He is a living legend to his most adoring fans. To others he is a comedian with more honesty and integrity than corporate media. Is he really by his own admission? I'd say no based on his track record since Obama. I'm not alone. Thank goodness.

[@joymosley8997]

Great point

[@mymia731]

Can all lying far right wing channels be forced to do this? Confabulations- lies truthfully told- are far more dangerous than simple lies. All cults, all conspiracies depend upon confabulations. Story matters and the stories we create to understand the world around us create our world views. It matters.

[@brickwitheyes1710]

This was amazing, like everything Jon does. What a corner stone for my generation he has been. I remember watching Jon when he had his own self titled show. We are so lucky to have this man. ❤️

[@darthbrandon2149]

Jon is a hero to the American military. 💕

[@TallBlondeSassy]

I wish George Carlin was still with us.

[@brickwitheyes1710]

@@TallBlondeSassy yeah, and Christopher Hitchens

[@TallBlondeSassy]

@@brickwitheyes1710 absolutely. Robin Williams as well.

[@cainealexander-mccord2805]

Same. I remember his stand-up all those years ago, and truth, my late husband wouldn't have made it through W. without The Daily Show. I don't know what he would have done if he'd lived to see Trump. Good thing for Trump he didn't have to.

[@2906justblaze]

Fox should put a disclaimer in the beginning, middle, and end with the same excuse they use in court, which is something like "anyone in their right mind shouldn't believe any of the crap this person is saying."

[@superbmediacontentcreator]

Actually, they do put a disclaimer in their programming but like most small print it is very, very hard to find and see.

[@Steve-wo7gt]

Fox News should be shut down. "Fake news", once again all it is is projection.

[@2906justblaze]

@@superbmediacontentcreator , I'll have to try and find it when I have the time, that's interesting.

[@superbmediacontentcreator]

@@2906justblaze Yes, it is sandwiched in there when they switch from their "daytime" actual fact-based news programming to their nighttime programming. It is something to the effect that the nighttime programming is presented as entertainment and is not to be "confused" with "news." What was one of the big scams from the start was that it is all presented on news-type sets by people dressed in professional "news-style" costuming. I am old and it all reminded me back when the fictional doctor on TV called Marcus Welby had a higher believability factor than people's family doctor or the line "I'm not a doctor but I play one on TV." I mean Trump symbolized all this to me and I have lost so many friends over the past 6+ years when they believed in the character that he built for himself that was so much stronger and believable than the provable fact of who he is and what he has done in his life. It's just time to die as I just give up now since I can't find a good husband (even though I am pretty loving and highly skilled) I have no more resources and no health insurance.

[@joshcombe440]

All news these days should do that, they all lie. Where’s any outrage over the lies from msnbc, cnn, abc, nbc? They lied about Nicholas Sandman, they lied about Kyle Rittenhouse, they lied about the laptop being Russian disinfo. If you don’t think that this a fair question, or it didn’t happen, then there’s no hope for you.

[@dskay211]

This was a FABULOUS conversation Jon. Thanks Professor for coming on-kudos to the both of you, especially you Prof., for taking this topic & doing a deep dive while keeping it light, easy to follow & enlightening. Oh & IMHO yes, FOX should be ordered to take “News” out of their name.

[@guysabol8743]

It could be said foxxy newsy Entertainment services out of Murdocks media group

[@bobbyhaines1813PatriotVet]

I remember vividly where I was, the time of day, and what I was driving the first time I heard the Report that Murdoch had won the right to lie under the banner of “Commentary Entertainment”. Awhile back I started telling people that “I feel like I’m living in a Sci-Fi depiction of a dystopian future”. Back in the day, when we stood in line at the supermarket checkout and read the cover of the National Enquirer, we chuckled, understanding what it was. When we watched Soylent Green, Running Man, Roller Ball, “V” For Vendetta, Demolition Man, and Blade Runner we smirked thinking those depictions of news broadcasts & media control could never be real. Today, for many people, the National Enquirer and FOX is the news. Corporations, Oligarchs, & Media are now running the show. During Sarah Huckabee Sanders Declaration after the SOTU address I suddenly felt like I was watching an updated version of Max Headroom. I felt like I was being fed the daily fix by a computer-generated depiction of a human being. I literally screamed “OMFG” The Sci-Fi writers weren’t depicting, they were predicting.

[@michaelrmurphy2734]

Of course they were. George Orwell saw it coming. And that was not even his real name.

[@johnjewell219]

RM gave up his Aus citizenship to get into 🇺🇸media .and he has shown that the job of newspapers is not to report news but to sell newspapers.he only loves money.hence my none buying of Murdock newspapers or watching sky channel etc.just found your channel I like it I have subscribed keep up the good fight JJ

[@ItIsWhatItIs8120]

I too said that about the movie IDIOCRACY.

[@karengossett1475]

Well said! 👍

[@old_grey_cat]

Warning about possible paths.. Too few listened.

[@lynngriffin2953]

Mr. Stewart IS 1 HELL OF A HERO!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR HUMANITY! YOU ROCK JON!!

[@42663]

Hero of the drooling tetards

[@lisabrygger9168]

Excellent 😊

[@lisabrygger9168]

I don't want creepy on 😢the house

[@lymiewilson44]

Prof Jones is brilliant! Thank you

[@matthew9871]

Clearly an excellent teacher.

[@RichardSpahr]

Love her. Articulate. Professional. Engaging. Wow, what a great conversation. Jon, in the arc of your career, thank you for pivoting from a preponderance of satire to being such an effective voice for things that matter in a predominantly serious manner.

[@annmeacham5643]

LOVED listening to intelligent people discussing the truth! Thanks! 👍🏼🙏👏

[@psho1562]

💯💯

[@ernestdeloneyjr8409]

Amen

[@Betleyman7853]

Not something you're likely to hear on Fox news.

[@annmeacham5643]

@@Betleyman7853 You’re absolutely correct, which is unfortunate for our country and human rights worldwide. 😢😞😕

[@robbrewer2036]

The people who believed the lies will still say the left do the same,and carry on w.t.f.

[@hotram1]

Great guest! RonNell Anderson Jones was above and beyond! The University of Utah is lucky to have her on staff.

[@michelevanvoorhis3813]

Once again, well spoken current legal events by Jon Stewart + guest Professor. Grateful for real & honest dialogue.

[@IThinkAndIWonder]

SO glad to see your activism sir. Because of your celebrity status and your noted intellect you are uniquely equipped to shed some light on very divisive topics that are troubling our nation today. Thank you sir for your passion and interest in doing this channel and your other efforts on behalf of the people and our nation. I have just subscribed and look forward to exploring your channel.

[@mikemorris1512]

This lawyer is damn smart. We want to see more of what she has to show us. This was sooooo encouraging. Can I please have my country back???

[@totorosghost]

Agreed. I wish he didn't interrupt her so much. I was hoping she might say something about corruption in other corp media for a comparison. At least she got Jon to admit he is not news and not fair and balanced. He was clear about that, but probably not happy to say it in the context of this video. Also felt like he was fishing for some legal advice for himself as a ''not news'' news commenter.

[@fredkruse9444]

@@totorosghost Just my opinion, but I think Stewart has no problem acknowledging he relies on satire standards, etc.. I've heard him acknowledge it before.

[@billweir1745]

@@totorosghost He's been "not news" since he began. He has stated over and over and over and over that he is a comedian, not news. The fact that he does a better job at reporting the news than actual news anchors only speaks to how terrible the news anchors are, not to his deception.

[@BigDaddy-il6pb]

@@totorosghost Jon has said that from the Very Beginning! You must have never watched his show on Comedy Central 🙄. He ALWAYS made clear that his was a SATIRICAL show! The issue is that many people took his show for gospel but he has always been clear that he's a humorist lampooning the ridiculousness in the media, mostly on the fringe right

[@BigDaddy-il6pb]

@@fredkruse9444 Several Times!

[@sixstringedthing]

Professor Jones was a great guest! So obviously competent and confident in her field, and she seemed to really enjoy reframing Jon's questions and concerns about the Fox organisation in terms of the actual legal nuts'n'bolts of proceedings like these. She did a fantastic job, great episode!

[@toyinosuntuyi1016]

Thank you Professor Jones and Jon

[@janelum1]

Her content is great but she says "sort of" constantly. Drives me batty! 😂

[@42663]

Or a daft cow

[@jbowman4826]

She's an attorney in this arena. It's obvious she knows what she is talking about.

[@jbowman4826]

She's a bit of brilliance.

[@letzigstudio]

Thank you, Professor Jones. Your insights were very informative!

[@8088I]

$1.6B is peanuts compared to the damage Rupert has done to the World over the years.

[@8088I]

Rupert Murdoch has been the Nexus of U.S. & Global KKKaos & Division & Upheaval ever since he went International.

[@jizburg]

He should be sent on a one way trip with Oceangate

[@garye4145]

She is articulate and so easy to listen to! She explains things in such an easy to understand way. Thank you Jon for bringing her on!

[@alexsandra9000]

This woman is among the best and most articulate guests you’ve had on your show.

[@totorosghost]

I like her. Jon seems a little, uh, zealous. I wish he had the same passion to attack other corpo media. Fox does some things better than the others. TC does good things too.

[@heraldkris]

@@totorosghost He has. He literally has a whole show about corp media.

[@arturoochoa7237]

Awesome.

[@totorosghost]

@@heraldkris On YT? Is it behind a paywall? Is he as flustered with them as Fox? That would be a surprise given his long commentary track record and work as executive producer for Colbert.

[@francoisbouvier7861]

The lady is most definitely articulate and intelligent. Stuart gets a lot of superb guests.

[@lyndamedley543]

Great discussion!! You are both so informative. Ms Jones is so smart and articulate. Mr Stewart you have long been one of my very favorites.

[@mrthingy9072]

I love it any time Clarence Thomas says 'The Founders would have..." because the Founders would have put chains on him and had him out picking cotton in the burning Sun, and there would be scars on his back from the slavemaster beating him half to death. He REALLY loves the Founders - from a distance of a couple of hundred years.

[@Gottenhimfella]

Only when it suits him. Like all originalists, I'm sure he's dead against some foundational principals, like separation of church and state, or the role and duty of the electoral college to act as a check if the people elect a manifestly incapable president.

[@FannyVonFluff]

We had to add an amendment for interracial marriage. The founding fathers allowed for progress.

[@drewspinoso4849]

Lol - I would have him milking bulls.

[@mrwilliamwonder]

uncle Clarence.

[@Gottenhimfella]

@@FannyVonFluff Good point. Not only is he hypocritical about discarding foundational principals which don't suit him, he no doubt supports a number of amendments to them, which are by definition anti-original -- but with all the dogmatic and unbending fervour which originalism implies or confers (apart from the one you aptly instance) such as free speech and the right to arm bears.

[@defconone1498]

Wow! I did not know this kind of reporting and discussion still existed. This is mind blowing good!!

[@LiverpoolReject]

Technically he's not "reporting" but I 100% agree. HAHAHA

[@totorosghost]

Careful. As Jon said here: he's not news and never claimed to be fair and balanced. Refreshing honesty.

[@JoeSmith-cy9wj]

Only because it's Jon.

[@wyskass861]

There is quite a lot of it, but you need to find it and get the youtube algorithm on board. Tends to be more prominent on more focused topics of interest. The interviewer needs to be knowledgeable on a particular topic to conduct a good interview, understand the answers and ask good questions. Jon is just particularly smart on the topic of political discourse and doesn't get sucked into BS.

[@Sharonmxg]

I am loving RonNell Anderson Jones! If I ever want to study law, I want a professor like her. This is a great discussion. Learning a lot! Thanks Jon, please never stop doing what you do!

[@ddueck7640]

What a refreshing interview, when the interviewer and guest respectfully allow each other the space to express their thoughts.

[@bellabella9181]

This was an amazing conversation. Jon never dumbs down the FACTS for his audience. The clarity of the information provided by the Professor was brilliantly articulated. Thank you.

[@BingBaddaBoom45]

I found Jon’s satirical mention of RICO as a potential method to prosecute FOX News, is worth further investigation. Clearly there is a vulnerable group of the public that cannot easily discriminate truth from fiction and needs some form of protection. Great show. Please keep on this subject, from this and other legal avenues.

[@qjtvaddict]

THIS IS WHY the insane need to be banned from politics

[@WLA6889]

@robertmosier fully agree. Great interview. Excellent points by Jon on RICO‼️ Although I’m not certain from her answers that Fox can be charged. Evidence of Rupert asking to help the GOP seems to show his co is working on the GOP’s behalf i.e., ‘propaganda’ for a political group’s benefit‼️ Have to wonder if DOJ has FN in their radar for RICO?!?!

[@BingBaddaBoom45]

I think Fox News is taking a page from Joseph McCarthy (Republican) who used fear of communists, homosexuals, and left leaning individuals to stir public opinion and make people turn on their peers.

[@davidbutler99]

And they went to college and got grants yet they are too feeble minded!

[@jonbongjovi1869]

NOTHING the press does is lawful, remotely. (Same with both parties, who are CRIMINAL enterprises of systemic fraud, systemic malpractice [a crime], systemic conspiracy, etc.) RICO IS A FLAWLESS WAY TO TAKE ALL THEIR ASSETS etc. (They could be all JAILED under RICO too, but 100% of Law Enforcement works for Wall St and it's MSM.) EX: BOTH "right" and "left" wing press TOLD THE SAME LIES on billions of occasions, like WMDs. ALL MSM lied about all our fake wars at the start! ALL MSM backed Adolf in 1920 til 1941! ALL MSM smeared MLK and Rosa and Gandhi and Mandela AT THE TIME, only telling the truth decades later. ALL MSM begged GOP Mayor Bloomturd to OVERTHROW two referendums where NYC voters chose TERM LIMITS for the mayor! (Cuz ALL MSM outlets were going to get most of the $100 million Bloomturd was going to spend on ADVERTS for his crooked campaign for a THIRD term.) MONEY is the solely principle of 100% of Press outlets, left or right. (I worked in the press in NYC for 25 years. It's a billion times more corrupt than you could ever guess. Not ONE honest thing they do!)

[@mattchase8291]

We're going to need more of Professor Jones in the future. She was great.

[@TheDylls]

Oh, for sure!! The way she could so easily break down and explain the vast amount of industry specific knowledge she has such that even a dummy like ME could pretty much keep up?! THAT'S how you know someone knows their stuff, IMO

[@totorosghost]

Hope they can do more on other corporate media problems with the same passion and zeal.

[@denniscardinal1227]

Is great

[@francoisbouvier7861]

Her students are lucky to have her. Perhaps there is a future for sanity.

[@barrylambe2266]

Great show. Professor Jones is terrific and explains everything in easy terms. Really enjoyable, if that’s the the right description.

[@hebrewenglishbibleread9941]

I love the way she can talk with so much focus and clarity on the fly like that. Great guest.

[@JUICE94102]

Awesome guest articulate and clear, much appreciated

[@ChrisAlbertH47]

She's an expert on the subject matter.

[@jonbongjovi1869]

Take a drink every time she says "What FOX did is clearly CRIMINAL in many ways --- nevermind Defamation Lawsuits --- as it was clearly systemic FRAUD, and many people DIED because of Fox's lies, so that's MANSLAUGHTER galore.........and if they're not in cuffs already, than Law Enforcement in all 50 states need to be arrested for aiding and abetting". You didn't take a single drink either? JON KEEPS POINTING OUT THIS IS ALL CRIMINAL --- and every time, the ESTABLISHMENT atty goes back to CIVIL court and Defamation and refused to talk about how CRIMINAL all of it is! HE CALLS FOX A "CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE" (this is correct) and she CHANGES THE SUBJECT AGAIN, just like when he mentions RICO and other CRIMINAL statutes! You know why she wouldn't discuss it. (She owes her paycheck to....this same ESTABLISHMENT. ALL press do criminal fraud every day. EX: NYT's WMD stories, which they knew were false.)

[@wyskass861]

It's almost as if she's good enough to be a law professor

[@DeborahGee]

What a very stimulating conversation with the law professor. Thanks for having her on. I found her to make articulate connections on the subject. I loved what Jon had to say as well and the different examples they both shared.

[@stevenreynolds8793]

Brilliant people with common sense, an open mind and ethical thinking is ultra rare these days. Kudos to Professor Ronnell Andersen Jones.

[@0jmreitler9]

There are tons of open minded people with common sense. They don’t make the news. The idiots do! Keep watching the ethical folks who will persevere…

[@martin777xyz]

Very glad to hear about cases coming down the line that weigh up free speech vs societal damage 👍👍

[@jackthebear3575]

She is an absolute star. Super intelligent, super articulate and obviously has a great sense of humour. Very impressive indeed. Great interview. And sounds as though Fox might have a real problem...

[@jeffhidalgo8457]

I'm so glad you're back in the ring John! Keep up the important work! Cheers Jeff

[@bobf5360]

indeed. Please just stop banging on the desk every statement you make. Its very distracting in the audio.

[@dougthomson5544]

Jon Stewart has such interesting guests. He’s a great interviewer and so very intelligent. Regardless, RonNell Anderson Jones is obviously a very good teacher. She explains the law so very interestingly, clearly and succinctly. Love it.

[@waynerand1265]

A terrific conversation with someone learned on the legalities of this situation. Thank you. It just seems so crazy to me that Fox finds itself in this situation because of harm caused to a voting machine company, not for the crime of being a national broadcaster that is attempting to pervert the political landscape, a crime which is far greater and far more dangerous

[@tandyb2]

Exactly. Someone needs to bring that suit. DOJ, maybe? 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Jay-ft3xh]

This is the results of capitalism in its endgame. This is irrefutable.

[@danriley5848]

Fox has to be taken down and they have to be punished for the damage that they have done to this country and democracy. This was an amazing video and she was an excellent guest to have on and explain everything.

[@BigFootTheRealOne]

What damage, are you saying suffering opinions is harmful to America. Have you seen the racist and hateful vitriol that CNN and MSNBC spew daily.

[@pegeenmike1825]

So should MSNBC, CNN, and most mainstream media that lies. Remember how they were all spouting hate based on Jussie Smollett lies?

[@juliec5309]

It also created damage in communities and families

[@totorosghost]

They do some good reporting too. The extra J6 footage has been quite illuminating. I don't understand why Jon is so dismissive of black guests and hosts on Fox. I like the diversity of opinion.

[@totorosghost]

I like Ronell. My favorite part was when Jon tried to pass himself off as a ''regular guy'' and she gently pushed back and he countered with some very important facts. He is not news and is not fair nor balanced. I watch both Fox and Jon so I'm a little surprised his comments about black people and fox. Also I wish he would say more about the problems with other corporate media with equal passion.

[@osajohnson1957]

Listening to Jon and Ronell makes me feel calmer and 3% smarter.

[@pjwhitlock4198]

Show off! I only got 2.5%. With you on the calmer part though.

[@ItIsWhatItIs8120]

Great show John .This show is always teaching us information based on truth . Thank you Both

[@briankoski817]

Especially at 38:48... I'm still suprised that Trump got 3 crazy jackass's on the SCOTUS.

[@xoirdriox]

All the power to you Jon. I always admired you for your integrity and honesty. Take care.

[@lloydfraser2801]

Such illuminating dialogue dispassionately dealing with the subject matter, profound thanks to you guys.

[@captainkfb]

Intelligent and engaging discussion. I learned a lot. "Truth will damage our brand"? Chilling. Almost Orwellian. Thanks Jon and RonNell.

[@johnboettcher1962]

“almost”?

[@cmdraftbrn]

@@johnboettcher1962 well it would be truly orwellian if fauxnews claimed to be the ministry of truth.

[@icin4d]

"Almost Orwellian." When your brand has been proven to be designed as damaging, it is Orwellian.

[@johnboettcher1962]

@@cmdraftbrn They do claim that

[@cmdraftbrn]

@@johnboettcher1962 they also do the whole hate thing too

[@LisaLeeLeeBlue]

@The Problem with Jon Stewart you are the coolest the best. I met you in 2017 when was one of uour Pop & Lox breakdancers on Jimmy Kimmel in Brooklyn! I was so wonderfully surprised at your incredibly high positive energy and kindness and how much you made the whole experience! My autoimmune disease was making the day more difficult for me, but you and Guierrmo’s funny positive energy made it a bit easier. And then I began following your incredible pursuit of justice for the 9/11 first responders, and my respect for you is untouched by anyone in the entertainment industry. Thank you for all of your hard work and your amazing soul. I will all be Pop & Lox!!! ❤️❤️❤️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🥳🥳🥳 Wishing you the best in everything you do, and continuing good health and power!! Jon Stewart for president!!!

[@richardjones2455]

Would you like to buy a comma?

[@Maya_Pinion]

Hell yes Lisa..I don't think Jon would like the doosh selling commas,by the way.

[@LisaLeeLeeBlue]

@@richardjones2455 no time for that sorry

[@jamesregiste960]

@@LisaLeeLeeBlue hope you're doing well Lisa, more power to you! from a fellow terpsichorean!

[@colinthompson3111]

This is a great discussion. Thanks for getting the right guest to have the discussion with.

[@rohankurian5641]

🤔👊🔥✌

[@totorosghost]

I agree. My favorite part was when Jon proclaimed he is not news and that he is not fair and balanced. ''We are very clearly, we are what we are''. 29mins in. Am I alone here? Jon you are truly a legend.

[@philipadam7870]

The Professor makes me want to study law… if only I could be in her class. Thank you for such intelligent discussion, bravo!

[@richardshalla]

I am always very impressed by Jon Stewart's ability to condense large topics down to a fine poignant point in rapid concession and in almost poetic form. I stand in awe and humility at his prodigious mental capacity.

[@marywhite2455]

All of our news media's are lying to the Americsn public. For example the 2 year long Russiagate lie pushed by MSNBC, & CNN. There's a reason why these networks ratings are falling...and it's not because the American people believe in them. It's all become a tool to divide & keep the country divided. MSNBC and CNN are no better and are biased to the left side. American people are getting tired of all of the corruption, lies and pointing of fingers.

[@richardshalla]

@Mary White I believe you are wrong. CNN and NBC are biased for sure, and may choose to ignore some stories that don't work well for their narrative but the are not complete lying companies. They are a news business and sensastionalizing the news helps keep people glued to the channel. That is their business model. Fox has built a monster they are trapped with now, the rage machine that are so addicted to it they don't want the truth, they want more rage.

[@totorosghost]

He does get some thing right occasionally. Like when he was on Colbert 2 years ago and did the C19 bit with Colbert. Jon thought it was good but he got smeared by social media. At least he still has his job as exec producer for Colbert and this podcast.

[@bearsmartdurango]

Amazing program. Amazing guest. Thanks, Jon.

[@andreawalker7138]

Glad I watched this. The law professor really helped me understand the case better. Thank you.

[@hlic7941]

What an incredibly clear precise analysis. The professor is amazing. Her students are very lucky.

[@BreathingCells]

Prof. Jones is a super get! I now know way more than I did about this case. Good on you Jon!

[@chewykarma]

The professor is amazing. More please.

[@JGLy22086]

She is so intelligent and speaks so clearly that the issues become crystal clear. This was amazing. I would definitely like to hear her again.

[@marilynnyoung7026]

Omg, what a FANTASTIC, INFORMATIVE show!!!! Whew....wow. Thank you, THANK YOU, Jon...and what an incredibly informed, articulate scholarly guest you had on. This needs to go VIRAL!!

[@arturoochoa7237]

True - similar to Meidas Touch which is also tremendous and brilliant.

[@jamesclark1550]

But will it?

[@paulinegallagher7821]

It wont, because nobody gives a shit about Jon Stewart, and rightly so

[@michaelmillington4359]

Kudos to her and John Stewart. This level of discourse gives me hope for the return of reason.

[@jaxdragon1723]

Go viral? YT made me hunt down this video, meanwhile they jam CNN/MSLSD down my throat. When the independent news i'm a member of,and I can't get a notice of an upcoming show,something has changed. 3 yrs. ago I got lots of pop-ups of independent news channels, and now if i click on 1 CNN clip,I get CNN pop-ups for 3 days. YT has blocked all independent news to viewers who might be looking for those type channels. Everything changed in late 2019,and has only gotten worse. I can't stand YT & their ways of controlling information. ... Thank you, Ms.L.Young :)

[@tim99291]

Wow, what a great conversation, clear points, well articulated and explained.

[@NightHawk0550]

Refreshing to have an in depth conversation on this. Awesome job!

[@ShadowWizard123]

She's fantastic. She explains complicated concepts in a fashion that I can follow clearly.

[@fezmai1282]

Word 👌

[@rpady2602]

Professor Jones is awesome!!! Great show, Jon. Appreciate your perspective.

[@ianbayley6092]

Your country is safe. With people like this young lady . WOW.

[@michaelmillington4359]

We need more from this educator.

[@CaretHalfgem]

Part of the settlement should be that Fox “news” has to air the judgement at PRIME TIME, not bury it at 3am.

[@bobflick9496]

Bury it??!!?? THAT news tidbit won't see the "air" at any time, under any circumstance. I mean maybe in a Schrödinger's cat scenario . But those days are over Roxanne.. Fox News done sold their body to the night. A more apt punishment might be; prevent them from putting on the Red "We're On The Air" light. I do appreciate the sentiment though.

[@catherinedonnelly1025]

!

[@sandrajiminez5871]

Love your show and she is incredibly so knowledgeable. Hope she comes back to your show.

[@totorosghost]

Totally would love if Jon would bring on attorney Gloria Rodriguez who defended the Osundairo brothers of Chicago. Heck all three of them would be amazing know that we know more about the explosive events.

[@roxannhanrahan7639]

What a real man you are Jon ! Thank you for all you do !

[@jaredrivera2619]

"Imagine, a news organization, in America, filing a briefing that "Truth, will damage our brand"...fuck." That line should be posted all over social media, great interview JS. Keep it up.

[@shock6]

This is an exceptional video to explain this era of politics, the US business greed and sociology. Love the in depth details. Keep up the good research! This was not just for entertainment. 😊

[@SoberOKMoments]

Fantastic reporting, as ever. Thanks, Jon, for presenting the picture, the big picture and the bigger picture.

[@paultidwell8799]

THANK YOU for This interview Jon , she's just taught me a LOT!

[@kaydevault6239]

thanks for this , shout it from the roof tops in America.they should ( Fox ) have to publicly apologize to their viewers for at least everyday for a month. each and everyone on that network that participated. they were looking for dirt on democrats , they found it its themselves.

[@janicegullett8779]

No apology will ever be enough for the people that died or had their health for ever changed by covid. They should be closed down period they are the extreme of snake oil salesmen.

[@francescanapolitano7463]

Fox Corrections Month?

[@bunyipdragon9499]

In prime time every 30 minutes.

[@JanLandy]

Extremely insightful and informative. Here is my question: If Fox loses can the penalty be that all of the Fox hosts that intentionally lied to their audience be forced to admit and state unequivocally on the air during their show "I intentionally lied to you"?

[@0jmreitler9]

I’m holding my breath but I hope like hell that happens.

[@BrokeredHeart]

What difference does it make? They lied because any time they did exhibit journalistic integrity or told news events with a high degree of accuracy that was unflattering or detrimental to the Republican Party, they significantly lost viewership. They understood that lying to their audience was the only way they could maintain their ratings and shareholder price, because if they didn't, their viewers would actively seek out the sources confirming their deeply held beliefs. When FOX called the state of Arizona for Biden in the 2020 election cycle (the first of any major networks to do so), they were confident in those results and were ultimately proven right. But in real time, Trump supporters lost their minds over what they perceived as a premature victory, and the network stammered their way through an apology to their audience, and then threw shade on their political correspondents who had correctly called the race. So even if they are compelled by the courts to issue such proclamations, FOX viewers will just slide further to the right to avoid that uncomfortable truth. It's the tail wagging the dog, where there's an appetite for confirmation bias, and despite knowing the utter lunacy of some of the claims being made by Trump and his associates, they didn't want to lose their sizeable portion of viewers to OAN and Newsmax who were also more than willing to spread equally contemptible lies.

[@JanLandy]

@@BrokeredHeartMaybe Fox should change their slogan to “Believe Us When We Lie To You”

[@TruthSage1]

Based on the texts that have already been released, they've already confessed their lies? And Rupert Murdoch has in essence backed up these confessions.

[@ananthropomorphictalkinggo6641]

Their viewers would probably come up with their own conspiracy about how this is just the big bad gubmint abusing its power to silence the truth. That would probably backfire, and actually reinforce their beliefs about the whole situation. You have to remember, their viewers don't just have different opinions, they're literally brainwashed. Their view of reality right now is a clinical delusion, and the main hallmark of a delusion is that no amount of evidence will change their beliefs. Fox News viewers are quite literally mentally ill, and I'm not saying that as a joke, or as an insult. If you want to know how bad it really is, do a little googling about cult deprogramming. It's really interesting on its own, but it will also give you insight in to what we're actually dealing with here. The first step towards breaking the delusion is to completely sever all stimuli that reinforce it, and we all know how widely available that crap is on the internet, even if fox were to taken off the air completely. This is honestly much worse than most people think, but the thing that gives hope for the future is that most millenials and gen z don't watch it.

[@markwhisler3501]

"That's not the absence of malice, thats only the absence of MORE malice" Is my new favorite saying.

[@NightShade1161]

I know!!! Right! That was Gold!!…

[@philipgiacalone5605]

Thank you, Jon Stewart. You are always on-point and make your points with laser focus and impact. Even your questions illuminate the key issues better than almost anyone else.

[@glenndespres5317]

Nothing has changed since Jon hosted the Daily Show as far as him being my GO TO source for intelligent discussion and pulling no punches when discussing all things Bullshit Mountain related.

[@suepeterson1230]

My thoughts exactly😊

[@samuelk9199]

Please have more of this guest, she was incredibly informed and present.

[@zombieregime]

Right?! Like, this may sound weird, but I mean it in the best of ways, she knows how to handle getting ran over. I mean, like, we all know how it goes with talk show hosts, theyll interject with a quip or jab, or when a thread has drawn a bit long they will jump in and redirect to a new thread sometimes a completely different stance to provide a more diverse conversation on the whole. But that means the guest might not be able to complete an entire thought. And thats okay, its not a bad thing, that is just how talk shows are. On TV there are time constraints, granted pod casts are a bit looser, but still there is an expected time frame and such. Ive seen guests on this show and others continue rolling on trying to keep the stick (the talking stick for those who remember those scouts stories) if you will, going on for 4 or 5 sentences while the host is trying to wrangle back their show. Professor Jones just absolutely rolls with it (probably a well honed virtue of being an educator, gotta let the kids think out loud if you want em to learn), she knows when to pump the brakes and let the host do their thing, and the best part is that she is off like a shot RIGHT ON the end of the question by the other speaker. Like no delay, no having to think about it, just BAM on it, and off she goes down a completely different tangent, no hesitation, staying completely engaged the whole time all without trying to take center stage, a perfect expert guest for an extended conversation. I really enjoyed listening to her explanations and descriptions, and the dynamic between her and Jon. Plus, shes friggin gorgeous (being a sapio, the intelligence, ability to articulate a complex thought effectively, and excitement for a nerdy in-depth topic has a lot of sway there. A body is only as pretty as the brain attached to it 😉) and adorable , so that certainly doesnt hurt.😅

[@charvaka9526]

​@@zombieregime You sure can "roll on." But cogently, mind.

[@totorosghost]

And she kept up with him with his fast paced comments. I was pleasantly surprised she pushed back on Jon and got him to say that he is not like regular people or journalists, not news and is not fair nor balanced. New viewers may not be aware. I watch both Fox and Jon so I'm a little surprised his comments about black people and fox. Also I wish he would say more about the problems with other corporate media with equal gusto.

[@zombieregime]

@@totorosghost rule #1: everyone has biases. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something. The trick is to do ones best to remain open to non-judgmental non-adversarial conversation over a given topic in the interest of arriving at mutually beneficial result for all parties involved. On that note, its okay to disagree, however that shouldn't lead to hatred. Its entirely possible to be soured on being around someone, but I have had plenty of intense arguments with people and then we still go out to the party later and have fun, or bar, or run a few rounds of halo online. For the life of me I'll never wrap my head around people who speak of others as if from a place of authority yet have not spent minute one attempting to understand their position much less have any first hand experience with that person's life experiences. Or worse are threatened by it, as if understanding someone's view point and what has lead them to their stance universally means they must then change their initial point of view. More people need to understand that if that concept is terrifying maybe that initial view point is the problem.... That being said, I do not disagree that Professor Jones is a great guest and has good chemistry with Jon 😁

[@totorosghost]

@@zombieregime Having said this, don't you think Jon now and to some degree when he was on the Daily Show, is judgemental, adversarial and speaks as if in a place of authority yet understand little of a person's life experiences? His interview with Ayaan Hirsi Ali comes to mind. Also I think this applies to black guests and hosts on Fox. He said fox doesnt like black people. This could also apply to any ''white'' people as Jon has interviews in which he and a select few attempt to explain white people's experiences without regard to ancestry and individual experiences. I agree their chemistry is good.

[@pamelaramsey9479]

Can you imagine where our country would be if fox had been promoting truth, Justice and honorable reporting?

[@cheebaman4728]

Haha because you get that from ALL the other leftist state media propaganda machines 🤣 😆 😂 😄 😉

[@pastblaster3285]

We'd be in the trash can of boring truth .... Entertainment / ratings value Zero .....

[@buckchile614]

@@pastblaster3285 Cover me in that filth

[@MultisportOfficial]

Right where we are now, because someone else would have done Fox's gig instead. It's all about ratings!

[@FFSammie]

@@MultisportOfficial You wanna hear something wild? I had JUST seen on a Daily Show segment that Fox is designed TO make people angry with a reel of them stating literally "get ready to be mad!". Later that night, I was at a burger spot that had two giant tvs playing only Fox News. I don't watch at all so I regarded it with scientific curiosity. To me, as a "Millenial" it just sounded like all shit talking different people/no actual news. Before I left, a middle aged man comes in to pick up an order, peers around the corner and sees what's playing. He says loudly to basically the whole place, "Oh, I can't watch this. It just makes me angry! Oh man." and immediately starts pacing back and forth. Incredible (also concerning lol) to see the psychology happen in front of you in real time.

[@samu3813]

WOW! This was such an amazing podcast. This professor is phenomenal. My gosh, she looks so young but sounds like she has been doing this for 50 years. Thanks for this.

[@a..d5518]

Excellent conversation, as always. Jon thank you!

[@johnhorn7379]

loved John at MTV then the Daily Show and now as a strong preacher of reality.

[@SweetBabboo13]

I'm shocked that FOX didn't settle after knowing what was in Discovery. I would have thought that their lawyers would have encouraged for a settlement, in order for it to hopefully go away quickly and quietly. Unless they did, but Dominion said no.

[@craigvdodge]

My understanding is it’s your last sentence; Dominion has no interest in settling.

[@nancylee6649]

Good, Dominion needs to go " full steam ahead " and let the whole truth out. Fox news played with people's minds and caused great damage. One day, having a talk with my niece, she was telling me all kinds of nonsense which I knew to be a lie. I asked her where she gets her news from and she said " Fox News ". I ended our conversation because she truly believed in her opinion and she is a sweetheart. Makes me so angry because people who watch Fox go out and vote.

[@craigb8228]

The law needs to be spelled out clearly especially to a Chinese company like Fox News.

[@old_grey_cat]

​@@craigb8228What universe do you live in? Fox, Chinese? Under the Murdoch Australian/American oligarchs? Interesting that so many weird comments come from 4-digit-suffix IDs

[@donkedic1]

@@craigb8228 I thought they were Russian 😆

[@retroandy7166]

John, finally somebody says Fox actions could be construed as espionage. Please keep pressing this. Kindest Regards Andy G (UK)

[@paulawilder8368]

Could NOT stop watching. Wanted to send to everyone and say SEE this is what is really happening.

[@ajrh82]

I’m very grateful that Jon is doing his show and especially this podcast. I trust him more than most and although he is a seriously funny man he’s a better journalist and human

[@jaslady22]

Jon Stewart, has a heart, has integrity, is willing to stand up for the rights of others, to sit and do the work, take the case to and before congress and has a calling, to not only be funny, but to care, with kindness and LOVE for a fellow human being! Thank you, hugs for all you do!

[@totorosghost]

She points out he's not a journo. He says he's not and never claimed to be fair and balanced. He's not news, but he comments on it. I'd be a little more skeptical based on this video alone. I have been since his Obama days. Thankfully I'm not alone. I do hope justice is served. Now if YT would just stop censoring reasonable comments, we all could have a fruitful discussion and a healthy democracy. I'm guessing they have other plans.

[@robinhood20253]

Jon, you are enjoying this as much as I am. After years of telling everyone this very thing, I am a little too pleased about this.

[@shelleyhjellum6425]

So much wisdom.

[@jessmith7324]

The interesting thing here is that Jon is focusing on the larger and more ethical issues w fox at large while the prof keeps focusing down on the case issues at hand. He wants to take it to another level and she's being a lawyer just focused on the actual case

[@sinkpehnarossfire454]

🧐⁉️👀‼️🤔❌️😐💥~~~~~~ 🌎: "The employees of rupertMurdoch group and companies didn't hire actual Comics for their daily work. People like Chapelle Colbert Griffin Kimmel Joy Behar Whoopi and others are Registered Comedians. Their livelihood and taxpaying status. The Carlson-Hannity-Ingraham and other employees aren't. They are legally responsible for their speech, dialogs, innuendo and more. They may have forgotten the thousands of Laws and Statutes that exist. International Laws, Maritime and Privateer Laws, Federal State County City Parrishes Townships and more. No loopholes allowed. DOJ has thousands of lawyers, working on many of the Civil and/or Criminal lawbreakers involved in this January 6 2021 Reality Show election event." Thanks for your words and reading these. 🌎: "Appreciate all these responsible USA Citizens "Jon Stewart " and all the Activists Advocates Artists and American kids-students who are being proactive. And the lawyers as this LadyPerson. :)

[@vermont741]

That’s how the law works. Of course she wouldn’t want to incriminate herself as well. She’s just a resource person for Jon Stewart’s podcast.

[@jessmith7324]

I know that how being a lawyer works. It was just interesting to watch

[@Monica---]

Which is refreshing and shows she is speaking to her expertise, which is why she was invited to this podcast.

[@extectic]

... that's literally why she's on the show?

[@Babyluthi]

This case is going to be taught in law schools forever.

[@mebeingU2]

True, if there’s a country left in the wake of what they helped create.

[@patriciathompson1776]

Not If DeSatan becomes President. It would be label WOKE and removed. Becoming It Never Happen.

[@f.eugenedunnamiii9452]

High School civics class even.. oh, right.

[@georgeelmerdenbrough6906]

@@f.eugenedunnamiii9452 I went to high school during the Reagan Era ....fill me in

[@baberRuth]

There's bn many media lawsuits

[@robertbelanger6733]

Keep on what you’re doing, Truth is key🇺🇸

[@michaelstewart4445]

This is, by far, the most cohesive, educative conversation about this subject that I have heard.

[@OzzieDeWitt]

What a fascinating conversation. Real food for thought and also compellingly educational. The depth of analysis in such a short ( relatively) time frame is impressive . More of the same please. 1st class.

[@MikeyJJJ]

Oh boy, I’ve been waiting for Jon to talk about this!

[@jambay4785]

I had a vague notion that some of what you explained was the case in this situation. I do like learning things... thanks for providing a reasonable detailed and informative video. It wasn't an "attack piece" it was simply a discussion of the facts as we currently know them.

[@bananajan9309]

You are doing such a wonderful job with this project! Shining a light and hearing a voice of reason (Who knew it would come from Jon Stewart?) just gives me hope for our country and reminds me that i am NOT crazy after all the gaslighting and manipulation of truth with the goal of gaining our support and our votes in favor of the corporate agenda by the mainstream media.

[@tandyb2]

Wow. Yes.

[@mystichawk1612]

She is amazingly patient with Jon's interruptions. Very nice discourse.

[@danielf3623]

Yeah normally I'm really entertained by Jon's interruptions and tangents, but often here I really just wanted to hear what she had to say. No Jon, we can't just throw them in jail for espionage like the Iranians do. But I'd really like to hear what the options might be for the court if the explicit purpose of "clearing the record" in defamation suits isn't deemed sufficient. Can it somehow be expanded beyond court documents? Can they force a retraction on-air? Can jurisprudence impose some semblance of the fairness doctrine on Fox? She almost manages to bring the discussion to that question at least 3 times before Jon cuts her off.

[@Fifthelement203]

It’s called a conversation.

[@howardbullows3717]

It’s interesting how things hit us differently at different times. I’ve had this frustration before when listening to other episodes of this podcast, so I understand exactly where you’re coming from. But I didn’t register any interruptions on this episode

[@htopherollem649]

@@danielf3623 did you also notice how Jon sidesteps, midsentence, his definition of himself and his podcast?

[@winniecross4579]

This was fascinating. She is sharp as a tack and translated the technical into understandable. Brilliant.

[@allenkinahan6955]

Excellent guest and discussion, thank you Jon.

[@colinfreeman2390]

That professor was great, concise, kept it simple and jargon free.